Mom's home (thanks for the good wishes) and has yet another pill to take
daily. Dad called and told me he's going to make clam chowder for dinner.
Heh. This means he's going to open a can (or two) of Campbell's chunky clam
chowder. Well good! She's cooked for him for 60 years; it's about time he
heated up some soup for her. He mentioned toast, too. So, soup and toast.
And he's making it. Well, heating it up. It's a start. <G>

All she got to eat yesterday was broth and the ever present green Jell-O.
Do they have a special Jell-O person on staff at all hospital cafeterias?
For that matter, at any cafeteria? How much Jell-O can one consume in a
single hospital stay? And why is it always the green stuff? Was there a
sale on green Jell-O 40 years ago? Just curious... it seems to show up
everywhere, sometimes with shredded carrots in it, sometimes pineapple
chunks. Sometimes all by itself. It's like that science fiction film 'The
Blob'.

Jill <---glad The Blob didn't get her mom but not saying it didn't try!

margaret suran wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>> Mom's home (thanks for the good wishes) and has yet another pill to
>> take daily.
>> All she got to eat yesterday was broth and the ever present green
>> Jell-O.
>> Jill <---glad The Blob didn't get her mom but not saying it didn't
>> try!
>>
>>
> Jill, How wonderful to know there is nothing seriously wrong with one
> of your loved ones. Hugs, M

Thanks very much, Margaret. We're glad she's home and it's not a serious
thing. And I'm happy Dad is opening up a can of clam chowder (makes me
hungry for it myself!) for her and waiting on her hand and foot.

Jill

jmcquown wrote:

> All she got to eat yesterday was broth and the ever present green Jell-O.
> Do they have a special Jell-O person on staff at all hospital cafeterias?

There's always room for Jell-O people.


--
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jmcquown said...

> Mom's home (thanks for the good wishes) and has yet another pill to take
> daily. Dad called and told me he's going to make clam chowder for
> dinner. Heh. This means he's going to open a can (or two) of Campbell's
> chunky clam chowder. Well good! She's cooked for him for 60 years; it's
> about time he heated up some soup for her. He mentioned toast, too.
> So, soup and toast. And he's making it. Well, heating it up. It's a
> start. <G>


Yay for Mom!

Sorry but ya don't suppose Pop wants to put her back in the hospital with
"clam'd" chowder and TOAST???

The man has no cooth! Make with the oyster crackers!



Andy

jmcquown wrote:

> Mom's home (thanks for the good wishes) and has yet another pill to
> take daily. Dad called and told me he's going to make clam chowder
> for dinner. Heh. This means he's going to open a can (or two) of
> Campbell's chunky clam chowder. Well good! She's cooked for him for
> 60 years; it's about time he heated up some soup for her. He
> mentioned toast, too. So, soup and toast. And he's making it.
> Well, heating it up. It's a start. <G>
>
> All she got to eat yesterday was broth and the ever present green
> Jell-O. Do they have a special Jell-O person on staff at all
> hospital cafeterias? For that matter, at any cafeteria? How much
> Jell-O can one consume in a single hospital stay? And why is it
> always the green stuff? Was there a sale on green Jell-O 40 years
> ago? Just curious... it seems to show up everywhere, sometimes with
> shredded carrots in it, sometimes pineapple chunks. Sometimes all by
> itself. It's like that science fiction film 'The Blob'.
>
> Jill <---glad The Blob didn't get her mom but not saying it didn't
> try!

Good to hear!

When I was on a similar diet in a hospital, I found out that visitors
could bring me milkshakes from the coffee shop.

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"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> Mom's home (thanks for the good wishes) and has yet another pill to take
> daily. Dad called and told me he's going to make clam chowder for dinner.
> Heh. This means he's going to open a can (or two) of Campbell's chunky
> clam
> chowder. Well good! She's cooked for him for 60 years; it's about time he
> heated up some soup for her. He mentioned toast, too. So, soup and
> toast.
> And he's making it. Well, heating it up. It's a start. <G>
>
> All she got to eat yesterday was broth and the ever present green Jell-O.
> Do they have a special Jell-O person on staff at all hospital cafeterias?
> For that matter, at any cafeteria? How much Jell-O can one consume in a
> single hospital stay? And why is it always the green stuff? Was there a
> sale on green Jell-O 40 years ago? Just curious... it seems to show up
> everywhere, sometimes with shredded carrots in it, sometimes pineapple
> chunks. Sometimes all by itself. It's like that science fiction film
> 'The
> Blob'.
>
> Jill <---glad The Blob didn't get her mom but not saying it didn't try!
>


I assume you have friends outside of usenet to discuss your moms situation
instead of assuming the entire population of rec.food.cooking wants updates?

If you are going to put clam chowder in the subject line, it should be
better than a mention of a canned soup.

I'm really not trying to be a bad guy, but really now, is a cooking usenet
group your best source for chatter like this?

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> Mom's home (thanks for the good wishes) and has yet another pill to take
> daily. Dad called and told me he's going to make clam chowder for dinner.
> Heh. This means he's going to open a can (or two) of Campbell's chunky
> clam
> chowder. Well good! She's cooked for him for 60 years; it's about time he
> heated up some soup for her. He mentioned toast, too. So, soup and
> toast.
> And he's making it. Well, heating it up. It's a start. <G>
>
> All she got to eat yesterday was broth and the ever present green Jell-O.
> Do they have a special Jell-O person on staff at all hospital cafeterias?
> For that matter, at any cafeteria? How much Jell-O can one consume in a
> single hospital stay? And why is it always the green stuff? Was there a
> sale on green Jell-O 40 years ago? Just curious... it seems to show up
> everywhere, sometimes with shredded carrots in it, sometimes pineapple
> chunks. Sometimes all by itself. It's like that science fiction film
> 'The
> Blob'.
>
> Jill <---glad The Blob didn't get her mom but not saying it didn't try!

Glad to hear your mother is home and recovering.

Rumor has it that Jell-O comes in other colors, but they all seem to taste
alike. My kids used to say that they ate Jell-O at school only when the
color changed and they knew it was a fresh batch.

Felice

Felice Friese said...

> Rumor has it that Jell-O comes in other colors, but they all seem to taste
> alike. My kids used to say that they ate Jell-O at school only when the
> color changed and they knew it was a fresh batch.
>
> Felice


I would've killed for green jell-o during my week-long pancreatitus stretch
in the hospital!

I'd've even have taken it IV'd if given a choice. But patient rights are
about as similar as you're likely to see land whales on any given day!

Andy

jmcquown wrote:
How much Jell-O can one consume in a
> single hospital stay? And why is it always the green stuff? Was there a
> sale on green Jell-O 40 years ago? Just curious... it seems to show up
> everywhere, sometimes with shredded carrots in it, sometimes pineapple
> chunks. Sometimes all by itself. It's like that science fiction film 'The
> Blob'.

If that is a serious question... I'll give you one reason. Red jello can
sometimes mimic blood a bit when suctioned out of lungs or vomited.
Yellow, orange and green are less deceptive. At least at my hospital
they provide the yellow, orange and green flavors for "variety."

Andy wrote:

> I would've killed for green jell-o during my week-long pancreatitus stretch
> in the hospital!
>
> I'd've even have taken it IV'd if given a choice. But patient rights are
> about as similar as you're likely to see land whales on any given day!
>
> Andy

On the contrary. You had the right to check yourself out "AMA" (against
medical advice" and go home and eat your jello....
Of course that might not have been the most therapeutic course, eh?

"Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
> Felice Friese said...
>
>> Rumor has it that Jell-O comes in other colors, but they all seem to
>> taste
>> alike. My kids used to say that they ate Jell-O at school only when the
>> color changed and they knew it was a fresh batch.
>>
>> Felice
>
>
> I would've killed for green jell-o during my week-long pancreatitus
> stretch
> in the hospital!
>
> I'd've even have taken it IV'd if given a choice. But patient rights are
> about as similar as you're likely to see land whales on any given day!

When I had my blessedly-brief stay in the hospital last month, I was
astonished at how good was the one and only solid food meal given to me.
I'd heard such horror stories of the dreaded hospital food! I didn't eat
much of it only because my appetite was comparatively low, but what little I
ate was decent. Prior to this meal, yes indeed, jello (red) and broth.

TammyM

kilikini wrote:
>
> Goomba38 wrote:
> > jmcquown wrote:
> > How much Jell-O can one consume in a
> >> single hospital stay? And why is it always the green stuff? Was
> >> there a sale on green Jell-O 40 years ago? Just curious... it seems
> >> to show up everywhere, sometimes with shredded carrots in it,
> >> sometimes pineapple chunks. Sometimes all by itself. It's like
> >> that science fiction film 'The Blob'.
> >
> > If that is a serious question... I'll give you one reason. Red jello
> > can sometimes mimic blood a bit when suctioned out of lungs or
> > vomited. Yellow, orange and green are less deceptive. At least at my
> > hospital they provide the yellow, orange and green flavors for
> > "variety."
>
> When I was in the hospital for 5 days following my surgery, the hospital had
> a retaurant style menu we could order from. They had everythng from salads,
> soup, sandwiches, to steak, pizza and pasta. I only ordered two bowls of
> soup the whole time, though.
>
> Still, it was nice to have options.
>
> kili

The only time I was in the hospital was probably 30 years ago. I recall
with each meal they also brought a menu for the next meal with a variety
of selections to check off which they collected with the empty plates.
They were probably a little surprised with a kid ordering the baked fish
and broccoli, but I don't recall any issues with the food. For that
matter I don't recall any Jell-O either.

Pete C.

TammyM said...

>
> "Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
>> Felice Friese said...
>>
>>> Rumor has it that Jell-O comes in other colors, but they all seem to
>>> taste
>>> alike. My kids used to say that they ate Jell-O at school only when
>>> the color changed and they knew it was a fresh batch.
>>>
>>> Felice
>>
>>
>> I would've killed for green jell-o during my week-long pancreatitus
>> stretch
>> in the hospital!
>>
>> I'd've even have taken it IV'd if given a choice. But patient rights
>> are about as similar as you're likely to see land whales on any given
>> day!
>
> When I had my blessedly-brief stay in the hospital last month, I was
> astonished at how good was the one and only solid food meal given to me.
> I'd heard such horror stories of the dreaded hospital food! I didn't
> eat much of it only because my appetite was comparatively low, but what
> little I ate was decent. Prior to this meal, yes indeed, jello (red)
> and broth.
>
> TammyM


Glad it was brief! I was IV'd sodium chloride and potassium chloride for a
week. After a few days, I finally convinced my doc to let me sip and gargle
water and spit it out. As if drinking a few gulps of water would KILL me!?!
I fired my Doc after my release.

Andy

Peter wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Mom's home (thanks for the good wishes) and has yet another pill to
>> take daily. Dad called and told me he's going to make clam chowder
>> for dinner. Heh. This means he's going to open a can (or two) of
>> Campbell's chunky clam
>> chowder. Well good! She's cooked for him for 60 years; it's about
>> time he heated up some soup for her. He mentioned toast, too. So,
>> soup and toast.
>> And he's making it. Well, heating it up. It's a start. <G>
>>
>> All she got to eat yesterday was broth and the ever present green
>> Jell-O. Do they have a special Jell-O person on staff at all
>> hospital cafeterias? For that matter, at any cafeteria? How much
>> Jell-O can one consume in a single hospital stay? And why is it
>> always the green stuff? Was there a sale on green Jell-O 40 years
>> ago? Just curious... it seems to show up everywhere, sometimes with
>> shredded carrots in it, sometimes pineapple chunks. Sometimes all
>> by itself. It's like that science fiction film 'The
>> Blob'.
>>
>> Jill <---glad The Blob didn't get her mom but not saying it didn't
>> try!
>>
>
>
> I assume you have friends outside of usenet to discuss your moms
> situation instead of assuming the entire population of
> rec.food.cooking wants updates?
>
> If you are going to put clam chowder in the subject line, it should be
> better than a mention of a canned soup.
>
> I'm really not trying to be a bad guy, but really now, is a cooking
> usenet group your best source for chatter like this?

What an asshole you are, Peter. Maybe you don't consider some folks here
your "friends" but I do. But if you want a recipe for Clam Chowder here you
go (assuming you care),. Google is your friend.

Jill

Felice Friese wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> All she got to eat yesterday was broth and the ever present green
>> Jell-O. Do they have a special Jell-O person on staff at all
>> hospital cafeterias? For that matter, at any cafeteria? How much
>> Jell-O can one consume in a single hospital stay? And why is it
>> always the green stuff?
>
> Rumor has it that Jell-O comes in other colors, but they all seem to
> taste alike. My kids used to say that they ate Jell-O at school only
> when the color changed and they knew it was a fresh batch.
>
> Felice

LOL I think I liked the red stuff the best. It was cherry, or maybe
strawberry. Not sure!

Andy wrote:
>
> TammyM said...
>
> >
> > "Andy" <q> wrote in message ...
> >> Felice Friese said...
> >>
> >>> Rumor has it that Jell-O comes in other colors, but they all seem to
> >>> taste
> >>> alike. My kids used to say that they ate Jell-O at school only when
> >>> the color changed and they knew it was a fresh batch.
> >>>
> >>> Felice
> >>
> >>
> >> I would've killed for green jell-o during my week-long pancreatitus
> >> stretch
> >> in the hospital!
> >>
> >> I'd've even have taken it IV'd if given a choice. But patient rights
> >> are about as similar as you're likely to see land whales on any given
> >> day!
> >
> > When I had my blessedly-brief stay in the hospital last month, I was
> > astonished at how good was the one and only solid food meal given to me.
> > I'd heard such horror stories of the dreaded hospital food! I didn't
> > eat much of it only because my appetite was comparatively low, but what
> > little I ate was decent. Prior to this meal, yes indeed, jello (red)
> > and broth.
> >
> > TammyM
>
> Glad it was brief! I was IV'd sodium chloride and potassium chloride for a
> week. After a few days, I finally convinced my doc to let me sip and gargle
> water and spit it out. As if drinking a few gulps of water would KILL me!?!
> I fired my Doc after my release.
>
> Andy

I immediately fire any doctor that doesn't follow my orders. They are a
service provider - nothing more - they follow my orders or they loose my
business.

Pete C.

kilikini wrote:

> Goomba38 wrote:
> > jmcquown wrote:
> > How much Jell-O can one consume in a
> >> single hospital stay? And why is it always the green stuff? Was
> >> there a sale on green Jell-O 40 years ago? Just curious... it
> seems >> to show up everywhere, sometimes with shredded carrots in it,
> >> sometimes pineapple chunks. Sometimes all by itself. It's like
> >> that science fiction film 'The Blob'.
> >
> > If that is a serious question... I'll give you one reason. Red jello
> > can sometimes mimic blood a bit when suctioned out of lungs or
> > vomited. Yellow, orange and green are less deceptive. At least at my
> > hospital they provide the yellow, orange and green flavors for
> > "variety."
>
> When I was in the hospital for 5 days following my surgery, the
> hospital had a retaurant style menu we could order from. They had
> everythng from salads, soup, sandwiches, to steak, pizza and pasta.
> I only ordered two bowls of soup the whole time, though.

Obviously you weren't on a liquid diet

When I was in, I was on IV most of week, then one day of liquid. That
mean jello and boullion mainly, with sherbet and juice. No choices
available, although could get extra juice when I wanted it.

After the day of liquid, I was on the regular menu, but that was only
one day as well. Then they kicked me loose.



Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

Pete C. wrote:

> I immediately fire any doctor that doesn't follow my orders. They are a
> service provider - nothing more - they follow my orders or they loose my
> business.
>
> Pete C.

....and you went to medical school where...?

jmcquown wrote:
> Peter wrote:
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Mom's home (thanks for the good wishes) and has yet another pill to
>>> take daily. Dad called and told me he's going to make clam chowder
>>> for dinner. Heh. This means he's going to open a can (or two) of
>>> Campbell's chunky clam
>>> chowder. Well good! She's cooked for him for 60 years; it's about
>>> time he heated up some soup for her. He mentioned toast, too. So,
>>> soup and toast.
>>> And he's making it. Well, heating it up. It's a start. <G>
>>>
>>> All she got to eat yesterday was broth and the ever present green
>>> Jell-O. Do they have a special Jell-O person on staff at all
>>> hospital cafeterias? For that matter, at any cafeteria? How much
>>> Jell-O can one consume in a single hospital stay? And why is it
>>> always the green stuff? Was there a sale on green Jell-O 40 years
>>> ago? Just curious... it seems to show up everywhere, sometimes with
>>> shredded carrots in it, sometimes pineapple chunks. Sometimes all
>>> by itself. It's like that science fiction film 'The
>>> Blob'.
>>>
>>> Jill <---glad The Blob didn't get her mom but not saying it didn't
>>> try!
>>>
>>
>> I assume you have friends outside of usenet to discuss your moms
>> situation instead of assuming the entire population of
>> rec.food.cooking wants updates?
>>
>> If you are going to put clam chowder in the subject line, it should be
>> better than a mention of a canned soup.
>>
>> I'm really not trying to be a bad guy, but really now, is a cooking
>> usenet group your best source for chatter like this?
>
> What an asshole you are, Peter. Maybe you don't consider some folks here
> your "friends" but I do. But if you want a recipe for Clam Chowder here you
> go (assuming you care),. Google is your friend.
>
> Jill
>
>

You said you only have four friends. If they are here and you never met
them, then you really need to get out more. Lose the attitude.
Unemployed drunk bitches are a dime a dozen.

Goomba38 wrote:
>
> Pete C. wrote:
>
> > I immediately fire any doctor that doesn't follow my orders. They are a
> > service provider - nothing more - they follow my orders or they loose my
> > business.
> >
> > Pete C.
>
> ...and you went to medical school where...?

Makes absolutely no difference, my body, my money, my orders - period!

I will not *ever* mindlessly follow orders from some egotistical service
provider, nor will I put them on some sort of pedestal. Their role is to
answer questions and make recommendations, my role is to ask questions
and make decisions, and of course make sure the bills get paid.

They are more than welcome to make their recommendations, however if I
disagree with them and specify something else, that's it period, I will
tolerate no arguments. If they have a big ego, they will get fired very
quickly, however if they are able to put their ego aside and have a
reasonable discussion with me, they invariably come to accept my
decision and respect the reasons for that decision.

It's not like I'm badgering them for some Oxycontin prescription after
all, my decisions are always quite reasonable based on the unique
requirements of my particular situation. Typically it boils down to not
wasting my time with crap I know doesn't work, or trading higher risk
for better results due to my lack of dependents to worry about.

Pete C.

On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:34:09 -0700, "TammyM" >
wrote:

>Prior to this meal, yes indeed, jello (red) and broth.

I have never liked Jello -- I can barely even swallow it -- but for a
few days in the hospital duing which I could have only a liquid diet
of broth, juice, and red jello, I sure did hoark it down.

Tara

"Tara" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:34:09 -0700, "TammyM" >
> wrote:
>
>>Prior to this meal, yes indeed, jello (red) and broth.
>
> I have never liked Jello -- I can barely even swallow it -- but for a
> few days in the hospital duing which I could have only a liquid diet
> of broth, juice, and red jello, I sure did hoark it down.
>
> Tara

I'm always amazed at how good green jello is with a broth chaser.


Ms P

On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 17:06:34 -0400, "kilikini"
> wrote:

>Goomba38 wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>> How much Jell-O can one consume in a
>>> single hospital stay? And why is it always the green stuff? Was
>>> there a sale on green Jell-O 40 years ago? Just curious... it seems
>>> to show up everywhere, sometimes with shredded carrots in it,
>>> sometimes pineapple chunks. Sometimes all by itself. It's like
>>> that science fiction film 'The Blob'.
>>
>> If that is a serious question... I'll give you one reason. Red jello
>> can sometimes mimic blood a bit when suctioned out of lungs or
>> vomited. Yellow, orange and green are less deceptive. At least at my
>> hospital they provide the yellow, orange and green flavors for
>> "variety."
>
>When I was in the hospital for 5 days following my surgery, the hospital had
>a retaurant style menu we could order from. They had everythng from salads,
>soup, sandwiches, to steak, pizza and pasta. I only ordered two bowls of
>soup the whole time, though.
>
>Still, it was nice to have options.

Yes! I'd forgotten this. On the day I was released, the nutritionist
visited me and asked me to fill out my menu order. I told her I was
going to be released, but she asked me to do it anyway "just in case".
The options sounded very appetizing. I tell ya, I got great care at
this hospital. No complaints about anything except them waking me
every 1/2 hour to take my vitals but ... I lived to tell the tale so
what's to complain already?

TammyM, stayed in Mercy San Juan in Sacramento

"Pete C." > wrote in message >>
>> >
snip............
>
> I immediately fire any doctor that doesn't follow my orders. They are a
> service provider - nothing more - they follow my orders or they loose my
> business.
>
> Pete C.

Strange comments! Are you for real?

e.

elaine wrote:
>
> "Pete C." > wrote in message >>
> >> >
> snip............
> >
> > I immediately fire any doctor that doesn't follow my orders. They are a
> > service provider - nothing more - they follow my orders or they loose my
> > business.
> >
> > Pete C.
>
> Strange comments! Are you for real?
>
> e.

Too real for you apparently...

And there is nothing at all strange about treating a doctor as what they
are - a semi educated person trying to guess their way through most
diagnosis while trying to keep their ego inflated.

Pete C.

"Pete C." > wrote in message
...
> elaine wrote:
>>
>> "Pete C." > wrote in message >>
>> >> >
>> snip............
>> >
>> > I immediately fire any doctor that doesn't follow my orders. They are a
>> > service provider - nothing more - they follow my orders or they loose
>> > my
>> > business.
>> >
>> > Pete C.
>>
>> Strange comments! Are you for real?
>>
>> e.
>
> Too real for you apparently...
>
> And there is nothing at all strange about treating a doctor as what they
> are - a semi educated person trying to guess their way through most
> diagnosis while trying to keep their ego inflated.
>
> Pete C.

For your sake, I hope your doctors don't read RFC.

Felice

Felice Friese wrote:
>
> "Pete C." > wrote in message
> ...
> > elaine wrote:
> >>
> >> "Pete C." > wrote in message >>
> >> >> >
> >> snip............
> >> >
> >> > I immediately fire any doctor that doesn't follow my orders. They are a
> >> > service provider - nothing more - they follow my orders or they loose
> >> > my
> >> > business.
> >> >
> >> > Pete C.
> >>
> >> Strange comments! Are you for real?
> >>
> >> e.
> >
> > Too real for you apparently...
> >
> > And there is nothing at all strange about treating a doctor as what they
> > are - a semi educated person trying to guess their way through most
> > diagnosis while trying to keep their ego inflated.
> >
> > Pete C.
>
> For your sake, I hope your doctors don't read RFC.
>
> Felice

How would that be a problem? They know my ground rules when I first
interview them, nothing here would be any news to them.

Pete C.

On Aug 23, 12:49 pm, "jmcquown" > wrote:
> Mom's home (thanks for the good wishes) and has yet another pill to take
> daily. Dad called and told me he's going to make clam chowder for dinner.
> Heh. This means he's going to open a can (or two) of Campbell's chunky clam
> chowder. Well good! She's cooked for him for 60 years; it's about time he
> heated up some soup for her. He mentioned toast, too. So, soup and toast.
> And he's making it. Well, heating it up. It's a start. <G>

I know I say that people who post here with what they obviously thing
is really creative advice, and what they're really doing is suggesting
some combination of canned, jarred and/or packeted bad ingredients,
are not worthy to call themselves decent cooks, but your dad just
plain ISN'T a cook, correct?

If the best he can do is canned clam chowder, then there are three
things one can add to improve it.
1. clams
2. butter
3. cream

--Bryan
>
> Jill <---glad The Blob didn't get her mom but not saying it didn't try!

"Bobo Bonobo®" > wrote in message
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> On Aug 23, 12:49 pm, "jmcquown" > wrote:
>> Mom's home (thanks for the good wishes) and has yet another pill to take
>> daily. Dad called and told me he's going to make clam chowder for
>> dinner.
>> Heh. This means he's going to open a can (or two) of Campbell's chunky
>> clam
>> chowder. Well good! She's cooked for him for 60 years; it's about time
>> he
>> heated up some soup for her. He mentioned toast, too. So, soup and
>> toast.
>> And he's making it. Well, heating it up. It's a start. <G>
>
> I know I say that people who post here with what they obviously thing
> is really creative advice, and what they're really doing is suggesting
> some combination of canned, jarred and/or packeted bad ingredients,
> are not worthy to call themselves decent cooks, but your dad just
> plain ISN'T a cook, correct?
>
> If the best he can do is canned clam chowder, then there are three
> things one can add to improve it.
> 1. clams
> 2. butter
> 3. cream
>
> --Bryan
>
>
>

The man is 80+ years old; retired, career Marine. Adapt, Improvise,
Overcome. He's doing the best he can, probably from the heart.

On Aug 23, 11:45 pm, "Paco's Tacos" > wrote:
> "Bobo Bonobo®" > wrote in message
>
> ups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Aug 23, 12:49 pm, "jmcquown" > wrote:
> >> Mom's home (thanks for the good wishes) and has yet another pill to take
> >> daily. Dad called and told me he's going to make clam chowder for
> >> dinner.
> >> Heh. This means he's going to open a can (or two) of Campbell's chunky
> >> clam
> >> chowder. Well good! She's cooked for him for 60 years; it's about time
> >> he
> >> heated up some soup for her. He mentioned toast, too. So, soup and
> >> toast.
> >> And he's making it. Well, heating it up. It's a start. <G>
>
> > I know I say that people who post here with what they obviously thing
> > is really creative advice, and what they're really doing is suggesting
> > some combination of canned, jarred and/or packeted bad ingredients,
> > are not worthy to call themselves decent cooks, but your dad just
> > plain ISN'T a cook, correct?
>
> > If the best he can do is canned clam chowder, then there are three
> > things one can add to improve it.
> > 1. clams
> > 2. butter
> > 3. cream
>
> > --Bryan
>
> The man is 80+ years old; retired, career Marine. Adapt, Improvise,
> Overcome. He's doing the best he can, probably from the heart.

Gee, I thought I was being unusually nice.

--Bryan

kilikini wrote:
> Goomba38 wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>> How much Jell-O can one consume in a
>>> single hospital stay? And why is it always the green stuff? Was
>>> there a sale on green Jell-O 40 years ago? Just curious... it seems
>>> to show up everywhere, sometimes with shredded carrots in it,
>>> sometimes pineapple chunks. Sometimes all by itself. It's like
>>> that science fiction film 'The Blob'.
>>
>> If that is a serious question... I'll give you one reason. Red jello
>> can sometimes mimic blood a bit when suctioned out of lungs or
>> vomited. Yellow, orange and green are less deceptive. At least at my
>> hospital they provide the yellow, orange and green flavors for
>> "variety."
>
> When I was in the hospital for 5 days following my surgery, the
> hospital had a retaurant style menu we could order from. They had
> everythng from salads, soup, sandwiches, to steak, pizza and pasta.
> I only ordered two bowls of soup the whole time, though.
>
> Still, it was nice to have options.
>
> kili

I've never seen a "menu" in a hospital. I worked with a guy who said his
parents would eat at the hospital cafeteria a couple of times a month. Mom
wasn't given a menu but she said her breakfast, when they finally gave it to
her around 10:30am was quite tasty. Mom doesn't eat enough to feed a fly.
She said she was so hungry she tucked in to 3 scrambled eggs and 3 pancakes!
Practically licked the plate.

Jill

Pete C. wrote:
> Felice Friese wrote:
>> "Pete C." > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> elaine wrote:
>>>> "Pete C." > wrote in message >>
>>>> snip............
>>>>> I immediately fire any doctor that doesn't follow my orders. They are a
>>>>> service provider - nothing more - they follow my orders or they loose
>>>>> my
>>>>> business.
>>>>>
>>>>> Pete C.

>> For your sake, I hope your doctors don't read RFC.
>>
>> Felice
>
> How would that be a problem? They know my ground rules when I first
> interview them, nothing here would be any news to them.
>


Do you also tell your electrician, plumber, and auto repairman
how to do their jobs?

gloria p

Puester wrote:
>
> Pete C. wrote:
> > Felice Friese wrote:
> >> "Pete C." > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>> elaine wrote:
> >>>> "Pete C." > wrote in message >>
> >>>> snip............
> >>>>> I immediately fire any doctor that doesn't follow my orders. They are a
> >>>>> service provider - nothing more - they follow my orders or they loose
> >>>>> my
> >>>>> business.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Pete C.
>
> >> For your sake, I hope your doctors don't read RFC.
> >>
> >> Felice
> >
> > How would that be a problem? They know my ground rules when I first
> > interview them, nothing here would be any news to them.
> >
>
> Do you also tell your electrician, plumber, and auto repairman
> how to do their jobs?
>
> gloria p

No, I do all my electrical, plumbing and auto work myself. I'm cheaper,
faster and do the work to a higher standard than nearly any electrician,
plumber or auto mechanic I've found. The only exception I've found is
the commercial electricians who work in the data centers where I work,
and there they only match the quality of the work I do, not exceed it,
and I'm still cheaper and faster.

Pete C.

Pete C. wrote:
> Felice Friese wrote:
>>
>> "Pete C." > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> elaine wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Pete C." > wrote in message >>
>>>>>>>
>>>> snip............
>>>>>
>>>>> I immediately fire any doctor that doesn't follow my orders. They
>>>>> are a service provider - nothing more - they follow my orders or
>>>>> they loose my
>>>>> business.
>>>>>
>>>>> Pete C.
>>>>
>>>> Strange comments! Are you for real?
>>>>
>>>> e.
>>>
>>> Too real for you apparently...
>>>
>>> And there is nothing at all strange about treating a doctor as what
>>> they are - a semi educated person trying to guess their way through
>>> most diagnosis while trying to keep their ego inflated.
>>>
>>> Pete C.
>>
>> For your sake, I hope your doctors don't read RFC.
>>
>> Felice
>
> How would that be a problem? They know my ground rules when I first
> interview them, nothing here would be any news to them.
>
> Pete C.

I didn't realize when you were brought into the emergency room you got to
"interview" your doctors. I figure bleeding is a rather serious thing and
they send a doctor to see you, not a panel of doctors from whom you get to
study their curriculum vitae.

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
>
> Pete C. wrote:
> > Felice Friese wrote:
> >>
> >> "Pete C." > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>> elaine wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> "Pete C." > wrote in message >>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>> snip............
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I immediately fire any doctor that doesn't follow my orders. They
> >>>>> are a service provider - nothing more - they follow my orders or
> >>>>> they loose my
> >>>>> business.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Pete C.
> >>>>
> >>>> Strange comments! Are you for real?
> >>>>
> >>>> e.
> >>>
> >>> Too real for you apparently...
> >>>
> >>> And there is nothing at all strange about treating a doctor as what
> >>> they are - a semi educated person trying to guess their way through
> >>> most diagnosis while trying to keep their ego inflated.
> >>>
> >>> Pete C.
> >>
> >> For your sake, I hope your doctors don't read RFC.
> >>
> >> Felice
> >
> > How would that be a problem? They know my ground rules when I first
> > interview them, nothing here would be any news to them.
> >
> > Pete C.
>
> I didn't realize when you were brought into the emergency room you got to
> "interview" your doctors. I figure bleeding is a rather serious thing and
> they send a doctor to see you, not a panel of doctors from whom you get to
> study their curriculum vitae.
>
> Jill

If they consult my medical directive, they won't be taking me to any
emergency room. If they don't consult my medical directive, they will
pay the price later. Treatment without consent (and my medical directive
explicitly denies consent) is assault, potentially assault with a deadly
weapon.

Pete C.

"Pete C." > wrote in message
...
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> Pete C. wrote:
>> > Felice Friese wrote:
>> >>
>> >> "Pete C." > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >>> elaine wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> "Pete C." > wrote in message >>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>> snip............
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I immediately fire any doctor that doesn't follow my orders. They
>> >>>>> are a service provider - nothing more - they follow my orders or
>> >>>>> they loose my
>> >>>>> business.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Pete C.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Strange comments! Are you for real?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> e.
>> >>>
>> >>> Too real for you apparently...
>> >>>
>> >>> And there is nothing at all strange about treating a doctor as what
>> >>> they are - a semi educated person trying to guess their way through
>> >>> most diagnosis while trying to keep their ego inflated.
>> >>>
>> >>> Pete C.
>> >>
>> >> For your sake, I hope your doctors don't read RFC.
>> >>
>> >> Felice
>> >
>> > How would that be a problem? They know my ground rules when I first
>> > interview them, nothing here would be any news to them.
>> >
>> > Pete C.
>>
>> I didn't realize when you were brought into the emergency room you got to
>> "interview" your doctors. I figure bleeding is a rather serious thing
>> and
>> they send a doctor to see you, not a panel of doctors from whom you get
>> to
>> study their curriculum vitae.
>>
>> Jill
>
> If they consult my medical directive, they won't be taking me to any
> emergency room. If they don't consult my medical directive, they will
> pay the price later. Treatment without consent (and my medical directive
> explicitly denies consent) is assault, potentially assault with a deadly
> weapon.

Medical directive - is this something you carry around? Like, ---- what if
you are vacationing in a different planet.

e.

e.

elaine wrote:
>
> "Pete C." > wrote in message
> ...
> > jmcquown wrote:
> >>
> >> Pete C. wrote:
> >> > Felice Friese wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> "Pete C." > wrote in message
> >> >> ...
> >> >>> elaine wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> "Pete C." > wrote in message >>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>> snip............
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> I immediately fire any doctor that doesn't follow my orders. They
> >> >>>>> are a service provider - nothing more - they follow my orders or
> >> >>>>> they loose my
> >> >>>>> business.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Pete C.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Strange comments! Are you for real?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> e.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Too real for you apparently...
> >> >>>
> >> >>> And there is nothing at all strange about treating a doctor as what
> >> >>> they are - a semi educated person trying to guess their way through
> >> >>> most diagnosis while trying to keep their ego inflated.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Pete C.
> >> >>
> >> >> For your sake, I hope your doctors don't read RFC.
> >> >>
> >> >> Felice
> >> >
> >> > How would that be a problem? They know my ground rules when I first
> >> > interview them, nothing here would be any news to them.
> >> >
> >> > Pete C.
> >>
> >> I didn't realize when you were brought into the emergency room you got to
> >> "interview" your doctors. I figure bleeding is a rather serious thing
> >> and
> >> they send a doctor to see you, not a panel of doctors from whom you get
> >> to
> >> study their curriculum vitae.
> >>
> >> Jill
> >
> > If they consult my medical directive, they won't be taking me to any
> > emergency room. If they don't consult my medical directive, they will
> > pay the price later. Treatment without consent (and my medical directive
> > explicitly denies consent) is assault, potentially assault with a deadly
> > weapon.
>
> Medical directive - is this something you carry around? Like, ---- what if
> you are vacationing in a different planet.
>
> e.
>
> e.

Yes, it is something I carry around. Everyone should carry around their
medical directive, we've seen enough examples of what can happen without
one.

Steve Wertz wrote:
>
> On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 20:12:33 GMT, Pete C. wrote:
>
> > Yes, it is something I carry around. Everyone should carry around their
> > medical directive, we've seen enough examples of what can happen without
> > one.
>
> So if an ambulance shows up while your unconscious and bleeding,
> they'll just read the tattoo on your chest and drive away.
>
> Unfortunately it doesn't work that way.
>
> -sw

I have an absolute right to refuse treatment and I've made the effort to
insure that information is available to them. If they aren't properly
trained, they will pay the price for their assault.

Steve Wertz wrote:
>
> On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 18:52:15 GMT, Pete C. wrote:
>
> > If they consult my medical directive, they won't be taking me to any
> > emergency room. If they don't consult my medical directive, they will
> > pay the price later. Treatment without consent (and my medical directive
> > explicitly denies consent) is assault, potentially assault with a deadly
> > weapon.
>
> Do you have this directive tattooed on your chest?
>
> -sw

No, it's on a card in my wallet in detail and also summarized on the
back of my drivers license. I'm considering tattooing it as well.

Steve Wertz wrote:
>
> On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 22:07:36 GMT, Pete C. wrote:
>
> > I immediately fire any doctor that doesn't follow my orders. They are a
> > service provider - nothing more - they follow my orders or they loose my
> > business.
>
> And you'll soon find your insurance carrier won't pay for
> self-induced sicknesses or other conditions prolonged by not
> heeding medical advice.
>
> -sw

I've never had an issue with my insurance carrier. My coverage doesn't
require any provider preselection either.