The recent thread on dirty leeks made me think about just how many
people have no clu' where food really comes from.

In the event of a nuclear holocaust, what is the estimated percentage of
humans that could even begin to survive? How many can consider
harvesting a wild plant for food? How many people can dress out a fresh
animal for food?

Frogs? Fish? Rabbits? Deer? Etc.?

How many people really know where food comes from (other than grossery
stores) so could survive off of the land?

How many people can hunt and gather like our ancestors did for thousands
of years?

This would make a really cool survey. :-)

I'd guestimate less than 25%, at least in American cities.
I've personally known humans that could not change a light bulb, plunge
a toilet, or roast a ham steak. (I kid you not!)

Dad is watching me type this and laughing, saying that I'm being
generous in my estimate...
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"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> The recent thread on dirty leeks made me think about just how many
> people have no clu' where food really comes from.

I wonder how many don't know how to spell clue, and don't realize how
pointless affectation wreck the beauty of language, unless you're Mark
Twain.

Omelet wrote:
>
> I've personally known humans that could not change a light bulb, plunge a toilet, or roast a ham steak. (I kid you not!)

Do you mean all at the same time... must be one of those Polack jokes!
hehe

Um, I don't think ham steak would be good roasted, probably dry out...
better quickly fried... with white gravy, a side of grits, and
buttermilk biscuits.


Sheldon Ya'll

In article >,
"JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:

> "Omelet" > wrote in message
> news >
> > The recent thread on dirty leeks made me think about just how many
> > people have no clu' where food really comes from.
>
> I wonder how many don't know how to spell clue, and don't realize how
> pointless affectation wreck the beauty of language, unless you're Mark
> Twain.

Gee, that was helpful...
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Sheldon > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> >
> > I've personally known humans that could not change a light bulb, plunge a
> > toilet, or roast a ham steak. (I kid you not!)
>
> Do you mean all at the same time... must be one of those Polack jokes!
> hehe
>
> Um, I don't think ham steak would be good roasted, probably dry out...
> better quickly fried... with white gravy, a side of grits, and
> buttermilk biscuits.
>
>
> Sheldon Ya'll

She didn't know how to cook it at all... ;-)

You did not answer the question.
I guess that makes you and Joe both Ignorant.
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On Aug 27, 3:51 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
> "Omelet" > wrote in message
>
> news >
> > The recent thread on dirty leeks made me think about just how many
> > people have no clu' where food really comes from.
>
> I wonder how many don't know how to spell clue, and don't realize how
> pointless affectation wreck the beauty of language, unless you're Mark
> Twain.

Shouldn't either affectation or wreck be plural?

The sentence you wrote wasn't a very beautiful use of language.

--Bryan

In article .com>,
Bobo Bonobo(R) > wrote:

> On Aug 27, 3:51 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
> > "Omelet" > wrote in message
> >
> > news > >
> > > The recent thread on dirty leeks made me think about just how many
> > > people have no clu' where food really comes from.
> >
> > I wonder how many don't know how to spell clue, and don't realize how
> > pointless affectation wreck the beauty of language, unless you're Mark
> > Twain.
>
> Shouldn't either affectation or wreck be plural?
>
> The sentence you wrote wasn't a very beautiful use of language.
>
> --Bryan

I've always found it fascinating that the majority of people that do
spelling flames screw up their own language use. ;-)

It's funny as hell.
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On Aug 27, 3:46 pm, Omelet > wrote:
>
>
> Dad is watching me type this and laughing, saying that I'm being
> generous in my estimate...

Funny, but when I told my wife about the chili/Velveeta, chili/cream
cheese, Rotel/Velveeta, Rotel/American "cheese" she thought that
people were just posting that stuff to be funny, or to aggravate folks
like me. I told her that I didn't think so. My wife is a non-cooking
person, and even she thought that Rotel and Velveeta being a
reasonable excuse for a chip dip was laughable.

> --
> Peace, Om

--Bryan

In article . com>,
Bobo Bonobo(R) > wrote:

> On Aug 27, 3:46 pm, Omelet > wrote:
> >
> >
> > Dad is watching me type this and laughing, saying that I'm being
> > generous in my estimate...
>
> Funny, but when I told my wife about the chili/Velveeta, chili/cream
> cheese, Rotel/Velveeta, Rotel/American "cheese" she thought that
> people were just posting that stuff to be funny, or to aggravate folks
> like me. I told her that I didn't think so. My wife is a non-cooking
> person, and even she thought that Rotel and Velveeta being a
> reasonable excuse for a chip dip was laughable.
>
> > --
> > Peace, Om
>
> --Bryan

You don't live in the South...

but now you are showing YOUR ignorance.

I presume you are incapable of living off of the land since you changed
the subject?
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"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> The recent thread on dirty leeks made me think about just how many
> people have no clu' where food really comes from.
>
> In the event of a nuclear holocaust, what is the estimated percentage of
> humans that could even begin to survive? How many can consider
> harvesting a wild plant for food? How many people can dress out a fresh
> animal for food?
> Frogs? Fish? Rabbits? Deer? Etc.?
> How many people really know where food comes from (other than grossery
> stores) so could survive off of the land?
> How many people can hunt and gather like our ancestors did for thousands
> of years?
> This would make a really cool survey. :-)
> Peace, Om
>
>

Since most of us have pets, would you friccasee your cat if you were
fixin' to starve? Hard to think about.
I have enough calories in jam form to last a couple years.. And enough
herbals in text and preserved to stay alive awhile anyway.
Neat book series was _Island in the Sea of Time_ by S.M. Stirling.
Explored what happened when Nantucket Island and a Coast Guard ship were
tripped back to 1300 bc. Lots of very coincidental things happened to help
them survive, but very eye opening on just how hard it is to "live off the
land." Edrena

On Aug 27, 2:46 pm, Omelet > wrote:
> ....
> In the event of a nuclear holocaust, what is the estimated percentage of
> humans that could even begin to survive? How many can consider
> harvesting a wild plant for food? How many people can dress out a fresh
> animal for food? [snip all the repetitions of the thought]

It's true that contemporary urban dwellers are further from and less
knowledgeable about food sources than used to be the case before the
industrial revolution. So what? I don't see this as a big deal at
all. Human beings are adaptable. That's how they learned the skills
you seem to be bemoaning the loss of, and that's how they learned how
to efficiently provide food in usable form to millions of city
dwellers. In the event of some humongous but survivable disaster
they'll learn how to adapt to whatever the new conditions are.
Probably. Or die.

I don't see that losing the knowledge of how to skin and butcher and
cook a squirrel is a very big deal. Those who were best at that 150
years ago didn't know how to tweak their computer graphics program.
It's not that bad a trade. -aem

"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> The recent thread on dirty leeks made me think about just how many
> people have no clu' where food really comes from.
>
> In the event of a nuclear holocaust, what is the estimated percentage of
> humans that could even begin to survive? How many can consider
> harvesting a wild plant for food? How many people can dress out a fresh
> animal for food?
>
> Frogs? Fish? Rabbits? Deer? Etc.?
>
> How many people really know where food comes from (other than grossery
> stores) so could survive off of the land?
>
> How many people can hunt and gather like our ancestors did for thousands
> of years?
>
> This would make a really cool survey. :-)
>
> I'd guestimate less than 25%, at least in American cities.
> I've personally known humans that could not change a light bulb, plunge
> a toilet, or roast a ham steak. (I kid you not!)
>
> Dad is watching me type this and laughing, saying that I'm being
> generous in my estimate...


All true but not new. I think it was Einstein that said the difference
between the universe and human ignorance is that the universe has limits.
Or something along those lines.

Paul

"Bobo Bonobo®" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> On Aug 27, 3:51 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
>> "Omelet" > wrote in message
>>
>> news >>
>> > The recent thread on dirty leeks made me think about just how many
>> > people have no clu' where food really comes from.
>>
>> I wonder how many don't know how to spell clue, and don't realize how
>> pointless affectation wreck the beauty of language, unless you're Mark
>> Twain.
>
> Shouldn't either affectation or wreck be plural?
>
> The sentence you wrote wasn't a very beautiful use of language.
>
> --Bryan

You're absolutely correct. But, that was a mistake. Om's linguistic horror
show is intentional, to draw attention. What a charter life underwriter has
to do with dirty vegetables is beyond me.

On Aug 27, 4:41 pm, Omelet > wrote:
> In article . com>,
> Bobo Bonobo(R) > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Aug 27, 3:46 pm, Omelet > wrote:
>
> > > Dad is watching me type this and laughing, saying that I'm being
> > > generous in my estimate...
>
> > Funny, but when I told my wife about the chili/Velveeta, chili/cream
> > cheese, Rotel/Velveeta, Rotel/American "cheese" she thought that
> > people were just posting that stuff to be funny, or to aggravate folks
> > like me. I told her that I didn't think so. My wife is a non-cooking
> > person, and even she thought that Rotel and Velveeta being a
> > reasonable excuse for a chip dip was laughable.
>
> > > --
> > > Peace, Om
>
> > --Bryan
>
> You don't live in the South...

St. Louis is almost the South. People make that Velveeta/Rotel crap
everywhere, don't they? I bet there's about as much Velveeta/Rotel
dip consumed per capita in Minnesota as in Mississippi.
>
> but now you are showing YOUR ignorance.

No, I'm showing my assh0lishness maybe, but are you going to defend
serving Velveeta/Rotel in a crock pot?
>
> I presume you are incapable of living off of the land since you changed
> the subject?

I might have trouble catching animals, but once I got my hands on
them, I could easily dispatch and process them. I might have trouble
climbing a tree to get at a bird's nest, but I think that I could
fight off the parent birds pretty successfully. I've eaten speared
bottom-feeder fish nearly raw when I was drunk and hungry.

I might have a bit of trouble surviving "off of the land" if I didn't
have access to a gun with bullets, fishing hooks and monofilament
line, etc. I'd probably end up so hungry that Velveeta/Rotel in a
crock pot would sound pretty appealing.
Fortunately, that's unlikely to occur. Instead, I'm going camping
this weekend with a bunch of other food snobs. I can assure you that
there won't be any process cheese or jarred mayo at our little
campsite on a beautiful Ozark creek, over a mile from pavement. My
younger nephew is making the mayo Wednesday, and we're leaving
Thursday noonish. We're going to have grass fed sirloins, grilled
over hickory wood for dinner. I really do need to do a little photo
essay, post the pix on the web, and put the links on this NG. Only
the food of course.

> --
> Peace, Om

--Bryan

On 2007-08-27, Omelet > wrote:
>
> I've always found it fascinating that the majority of people that do
> spelling flames screw up their own language use. ;-)
>
> It's funny as hell.

Yep. BTW, Hell should be capitalized. :P

nb

In article . com>,
Bobo Bonobo(R) > wrote:


> Funny, but when I told my wife about the chili/Velveeta, chili/cream
> cheese, Rotel/Velveeta, Rotel/American "cheese" she thought that
> people were just posting that stuff to be funny, or to aggravate folks
> like me. I told her that I didn't think so. My wife is a non-cooking
> person, and even she thought that Rotel and Velveeta being a
> reasonable excuse for a chip dip was laughable.


Well, it tastes good. Not my #1 choice, but edible.

The Joneses wrote:
>
> "Omelet" > wrote in message
> news
> > The recent thread on dirty leeks made me think about just how many
> > people have no clu' where food really comes from.
> >
> > In the event of a nuclear holocaust, what is the estimated percentage of
> > humans that could even begin to survive? How many can consider
> > harvesting a wild plant for food? How many people can dress out a fresh
> > animal for food?
> > Frogs? Fish? Rabbits? Deer? Etc.?
> > How many people really know where food comes from (other than grossery
> > stores) so could survive off of the land?
> > How many people can hunt and gather like our ancestors did for thousands
> > of years?
> > This would make a really cool survey. :-)
> > Peace, Om
> >
> >
>
> Since most of us have pets, would you friccasee your cat if you were
> fixin' to starve? Hard to think about.

My cat? Hell no! A neighbors dog, or the neighbor in a real PNH
scenario, absolutely.

aem wrote:
>
> On Aug 27, 2:46 pm, Omelet > wrote:
> > ....
> > In the event of a nuclear holocaust, what is the estimated percentage of
> > humans that could even begin to survive? How many can consider
> > harvesting a wild plant for food? How many people can dress out a fresh
> > animal for food? [snip all the repetitions of the thought]
>
> It's true that contemporary urban dwellers are further from and less
> knowledgeable about food sources than used to be the case before the
> industrial revolution. So what? I don't see this as a big deal at
> all. Human beings are adaptable. That's how they learned the skills
> you seem to be bemoaning the loss of, and that's how they learned how
> to efficiently provide food in usable form to millions of city
> dwellers. In the event of some humongous but survivable disaster
> they'll learn how to adapt to whatever the new conditions are.
> Probably. Or die.

The most recent examples of survivable disasters didn't show much
progress on that relearning survival thing. I suppose it wasn't long
enough before outside help arrived in each case to really see if those
skills would return to most people.

I expect a true global disaster scenario would see a significant
thinning of the herd, which would probably be a good thing since that
might leave enough resources to sustain the remaining population.

Bobo Bonobo® wrote:
>
> On Aug 27, 4:41 pm, Omelet > wrote:
> > In article . com>,
> > Bobo Bonobo(R) > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Aug 27, 3:46 pm, Omelet > wrote:
> >
> > > > Dad is watching me type this and laughing, saying that I'm being
> > > > generous in my estimate...
> >
> > > Funny, but when I told my wife about the chili/Velveeta, chili/cream
> > > cheese, Rotel/Velveeta, Rotel/American "cheese" she thought that
> > > people were just posting that stuff to be funny, or to aggravate folks
> > > like me. I told her that I didn't think so. My wife is a non-cooking
> > > person, and even she thought that Rotel and Velveeta being a
> > > reasonable excuse for a chip dip was laughable.
> >
> > > > --
> > > > Peace, Om
> >
> > > --Bryan
> >
> > You don't live in the South...
>
> St. Louis is almost the South. People make that Velveeta/Rotel crap
> everywhere, don't they? I bet there's about as much Velveeta/Rotel
> dip consumed per capita in Minnesota as in Mississippi.

I can tell you that nobody in the Northeast even knows what Rotel is, so
no, they don't make that crap everywhere.

Abe wrote:

> As for trapping critters and living off the land, I've stored away
> alot of information from 2 TV shows.
>
> Survivorman
> http://www.survivorman.ca/
>
> and to a lesser extent because it's all staged
>
> Man vs. Wild
> http://dsc.discovery.com/fansites/ma...manvswild.html

And don't forget Gilligan's Island...


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On Aug 27, 5:12 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
> "Bobo Bonobo®" > wrote in message
>
> oups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Aug 27, 3:51 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
> >> "Omelet" > wrote in message
>
> >>news
>
> >> > The recent thread on dirty leeks made me think about just how many
> >> > people have no clu' where food really comes from.
>
> >> I wonder how many don't know how to spell clue, and don't realize how
> >> pointless affectation wreck the beauty of language, unless you're Mark
> >> Twain.
>
> > Shouldn't either affectation or wreck be plural?
>
> > The sentence you wrote wasn't a very beautiful use of language.
>
> > --Bryan
>
> You're absolutely correct. But, that was a mistake. Om's linguistic horror
> show is intentional, to draw attention. What a charter life underwriter has
> to do with dirty vegetables is beyond me.

You know, for all the sh!t I give people around here, it really isn't
at all personal.
I don't think it's wrong to go off on folks who SandraLeeify* this NG.

I get along pretty well with Om some of the time, and when there were
a bunch of people ganging up on Jill, who I don't particularly like,
and it was about stuff that was personal, I just didn't participate at
all. I'm not saying that I act better than most others in general,
but in the midst of all the stuff on this NG, I manage to get a few
tidbits of info that help me make better food, and I try to save my
insults for the kind of lazy shortcut, crappy ingredient
recommendations that make for bad food.
Bad ingredients in, bad food out.
Do I practice lazy cooking? You bet. Do I serve it to company?
Well, no. Do I describe serving pasta with jarred pasta sauce here?
No. What would that do to help make people better cooks?
I'm chairing my son's school's PTO "father's pancake breakfast" thing
because I want to make the quality of the food better. I might well
get stuck with that job for six years, OK. That really is OK.
I'm just glad that over the weekend I will be eating well, in an
idyllically beautiful place, with nice people. You'll get photos.

* I had never even heard of Sandra Lee until a few months ago, on this
NG

--Bryan

"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> The recent thread on dirty leeks made me think about just how many
> people have no clu' where food really comes from.
>
> In the event of a nuclear holocaust, what is the estimated percentage of
> humans that could even begin to survive? How many can consider
> harvesting a wild plant for food? How many people can dress out a fresh
> animal for food?
>
> Frogs? Fish? Rabbits? Deer? Etc.?
>
> How many people really know where food comes from (other than grossery
> stores) so could survive off of the land?
>
> How many people can hunt and gather like our ancestors did for thousands
> of years?
>
> This would make a really cool survey. :-)
>
> I'd guestimate less than 25%, at least in American cities.
> I've personally known humans that could not change a light bulb, plunge
> a toilet, or roast a ham steak. (I kid you not!)
>
> Dad is watching me type this and laughing, saying that I'm being
> generous in my estimate...

I know where food comes from. I have a garden and as a kid I used to go
around the yard picking dandelions for soup. I collect old cookbooks so I
have the instructions for dressing my own critters. Not that I would want
to do it. I'd rather open a can of something than have to do that. I
wouldn't have done too well in the old days.

On Aug 27, 6:11 pm, "Pete C." > wrote:
> Bobo Bonobo® wrote:
>
> > On Aug 27, 4:41 pm, Omelet > wrote:
> > > In article . com>,
> > > Bobo Bonobo(R) > wrote:
>
> > > > On Aug 27, 3:46 pm, Omelet > wrote:
>
> > > > > Dad is watching me type this and laughing, saying that I'm being
> > > > > generous in my estimate...
>
> > > > Funny, but when I told my wife about the chili/Velveeta, chili/cream
> > > > cheese, Rotel/Velveeta, Rotel/American "cheese" she thought that
> > > > people were just posting that stuff to be funny, or to aggravate folks
> > > > like me. I told her that I didn't think so. My wife is a non-cooking
> > > > person, and even she thought that Rotel and Velveeta being a
> > > > reasonable excuse for a chip dip was laughable.
>
> > > > > --
> > > > > Peace, Om
>
> > > > --Bryan
>
> > > You don't live in the South...
>
> > St. Louis is almost the South. People make that Velveeta/Rotel crap
> > everywhere, don't they? I bet there's about as much Velveeta/Rotel
> > dip consumed per capita in Minnesota as in Mississippi.
>
> I can tell you that nobody in the Northeast even knows what Rotel is, so
> no, they don't make that crap everywhere.

They don't sell Rotel there? Canned tomatoes with green chilies?
They're not a bad thing for making chili. I was pointing out that the
Rotel/Velveeta stuff is also made in the Midwest, including the upper
Midwest. Thank whatever diety or other thing you thank that you have
never been served that combo. Perhaps you've seen (or eaten) cheese
sauce on nachos. We residents of the Midwest and South have to
contend with all manner of Krafty dishes. The only truly bad thing I
know of in the NE is Manhattan style clam chowder, which even some New
Yorkers reject.
'Round here, there are counties where cattle outnumber humans, and the
residents still refer to oleomargarine as "butter." As recently as 5
or 6 years ago, I've found myself at a restaurant in a fist tier
suburb of StL where they served only margarine.
Again, thank whatever you please ...

--Bryan

Bobo Bonobo® wrote:
>
> On Aug 27, 6:11 pm, "Pete C." > wrote:
> > Bobo Bonobo® wrote:
> >
> > > On Aug 27, 4:41 pm, Omelet > wrote:
> > > > In article . com>,
> > > > Bobo Bonobo(R) > wrote:
> >
> > > > > On Aug 27, 3:46 pm, Omelet > wrote:
> >
> > > > > > Dad is watching me type this and laughing, saying that I'm being
> > > > > > generous in my estimate...
> >
> > > > > Funny, but when I told my wife about the chili/Velveeta, chili/cream
> > > > > cheese, Rotel/Velveeta, Rotel/American "cheese" she thought that
> > > > > people were just posting that stuff to be funny, or to aggravate folks
> > > > > like me. I told her that I didn't think so. My wife is a non-cooking
> > > > > person, and even she thought that Rotel and Velveeta being a
> > > > > reasonable excuse for a chip dip was laughable.
> >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Peace, Om
> >
> > > > > --Bryan
> >
> > > > You don't live in the South...
> >
> > > St. Louis is almost the South. People make that Velveeta/Rotel crap
> > > everywhere, don't they? I bet there's about as much Velveeta/Rotel
> > > dip consumed per capita in Minnesota as in Mississippi.
> >
> > I can tell you that nobody in the Northeast even knows what Rotel is, so
> > no, they don't make that crap everywhere.
>
> They don't sell Rotel there? Canned tomatoes with green chilies?

In some 34 years in CT, most of those cooking and looking for
interesting stuff in the grocery store, I don't recall ever noticing
them. They may be there somewhere, perhaps hidden in the "Mexican"
section, but pretty much nobody up there would know to look for them. I
never saw them before I moved to TX. It works the other way around as
well, some stuff common in the northeast is difficult to find in TX.

> They're not a bad thing for making chili. I was pointing out that the
> Rotel/Velveeta stuff is also made in the Midwest, including the upper
> Midwest. Thank whatever diety or other thing you thank that you have
> never been served that combo. Perhaps you've seen (or eaten) cheese
> sauce on nachos. We residents of the Midwest and South have to
> contend with all manner of Krafty dishes.

A lot of differences as you go across the country. The northeast has no
idea what sweet tea is, and the south / midwest has no idea what iced
coffee is. Both areas are starting to learn a little though.

> The only truly bad thing I
> know of in the NE is Manhattan style clam chowder, which even some New
> Yorkers reject.

That ain't clam chowder, it's low tide scum. The only real clam chowders
are New England (milk) and Rhode Island (clear).

> 'Round here, there are counties where cattle outnumber humans, and the
> residents still refer to oleomargarine as "butter." As recently as 5
> or 6 years ago, I've found myself at a restaurant in a fist tier
> suburb of StL where they served only margarine.
> Again, thank whatever you please ...

Margarine - ick. If it's all that's available ok, but it's at the bottom
of my list. As for cattle, I'm not far enough out from the city to be
outnumbered by cattle, but I can look out my window across the street
and see horses and if I walk out to the shop and look across the road
there is some cattle.

Pete C.

Omelet > wrote in
news
> The recent thread on dirty leeks made me think about just how
> many people have no clu' where food really comes from.
>
> In the event of a nuclear holocaust, what is the estimated
> percentage of humans that could even begin to survive? How
> many can consider harvesting a wild plant for food? How many
> people can dress out a fresh animal for food?
>
> Frogs? Fish? Rabbits? Deer? Etc.?
>
> How many people really know where food comes from (other than
> grossery stores) so could survive off of the land?
>
> How many people can hunt and gather like our ancestors did for
> thousands of years?

Changing the subject bit but on a reality theme..
have you heard about the upcoming, new reality show
'Kid Nation'?

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ne...&btnG=Search+N
ews

>> > I can tell you that nobody in the Northeast even knows what Rotel is,
>> > so
>> > no, they don't make that crap everywhere.
>>
>> They don't sell Rotel there? Canned tomatoes with green chilies?

Is Rotel the same thing as canned tomatoes with green chilies? If so, I've
seen a Walmart can of tomatoes and green chilies in Winchester, VA. It is
their brand, something like: Great Value? I can't recall what section it is
in -- not exactly the Mexican section, nor the tomatoes section - perhaps
the canned chilis section? It is probably a 7 oz. can. with a picture of
exactly what is inside.

Dee Dee

Dee Dee wrote:
>
> >> > I can tell you that nobody in the Northeast even knows what Rotel is,
> >> > so
> >> > no, they don't make that crap everywhere.
> >>
> >> They don't sell Rotel there? Canned tomatoes with green chilies?
>
> Is Rotel the same thing as canned tomatoes with green chilies? If so, I've
> seen a Walmart can of tomatoes and green chilies in Winchester, VA. It is
> their brand, something like: Great Value? I can't recall what section it is
> in -- not exactly the Mexican section, nor the tomatoes section - perhaps
> the canned chilis section? It is probably a 7 oz. can. with a picture of
> exactly what is inside.
>
> Dee Dee

If it's MalWart house brand, the picture on the can is what you wish was
actually inside...

On Aug 27, 6:41 pm, Omelet > wrote:
> In article . com>,
> Bobo Bonobo(R) > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 27, 3:46 pm, Omelet > wrote:
>
> > > Dad is watching me type this and laughing, saying that I'm being
> > > generous in my estimate...
>
> > Funny, but when I told my wife about the chili/Velveeta, chili/cream
> > cheese, Rotel/Velveeta, Rotel/American "cheese" she thought that
> > people were just posting that stuff to be funny, or to aggravate folks
> > like me. I told her that I didn't think so. My wife is a non-cooking
> > person, and even she thought that Rotel and Velveeta being a
> > reasonable excuse for a chip dip was laughable.
>
> > > --
> > > Peace, Om
>
> > --Bryan
>
> You don't live in the South...
>
> but now you are showing YOUR ignorance.
>
> I presume you are incapable of living off of the land since you changed
> the subject?

What land? Much of the population lives on a quarter acre.
Planting corn and hunting rabbits in the back yard sound right to you?

On Aug 27, 7:16?pm, Pete C.

> In some 34 years in CT, most of those cooking and
> looking for interesting stuff in the grocery store, I don't
> recall ever noticing them. They may be there somewhere,
> perhaps hidden in the "Mexican" section, but pretty much
> nobody up there would know to look for them.

My sil had a can of Rotel when I visited her and my brother
in Fairfield in June. I asked her whether she had any plan
for it. She said she had heard of it, saw it in the store and
bought it to see what it tasted like. As far as I know, it's
still in her pantry.

On Aug 27, 11:17 pm, Terry > wrote:
> On Aug 27, 6:41 pm, Omelet > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article . com>,
> > Bobo Bonobo(R) > wrote:
>
> > > On Aug 27, 3:46 pm, Omelet > wrote:
>
> > > > Dad is watching me type this and laughing, saying that I'm being
> > > > generous in my estimate...
>
> > > Funny, but when I told my wife about the chili/Velveeta, chili/cream
> > > cheese, Rotel/Velveeta, Rotel/American "cheese" she thought that
> > > people were just posting that stuff to be funny, or to aggravate folks
> > > like me. I told her that I didn't think so. My wife is a non-cooking
> > > person, and even she thought that Rotel and Velveeta being a
> > > reasonable excuse for a chip dip was laughable.
>
> > > > --
> > > > Peace, Om
>
> > > --Bryan
>
> > You don't live in the South...
>
> > but now you are showing YOUR ignorance.
>
> > I presume you are incapable of living off of the land since you changed
> > the subject?
>
> What land? Much of the population lives on a quarter acre.
> Planting corn and hunting rabbits in the back yard sound right to you?

I didn't get to add that most would be fighting for other's
provisions.

"Pete C." > wrote in message
...

> If it's MalWart house brand, the picture on the can is what you wish was
> actually inside...

Oh dear. Can't say that I've ever bought any WalMart house brand foods.
But I don't think I shall in the future!

On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 16:46:32 -0500, Omelet >
wrote:

>In the event of a nuclear holocaust, what is the estimated percentage of
>humans that could even begin to survive? How many can consider
>harvesting a wild plant for food? How many people can dress out a fresh
>animal for food?

Yep, eating all that radioactive food is going to keep you alive long
enough for the radiation to kill you. Now, if anyone has a "low
radiation" diet plan for your typical nuclear holocaust, I'd like to
get a copy of it.

--
Zilbandy

"Pete C." > wrote in message
...
> Bobo Bonobo® wrote:
>>
>> On Aug 27, 4:41 pm, Omelet > wrote:
>> > In article . com>,
>> > Bobo Bonobo(R) > wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > On Aug 27, 3:46 pm, Omelet > wrote:
>> >
>> > > > Dad is watching me type this and laughing, saying that I'm being
>> > > > generous in my estimate...
>> >
>> > > Funny, but when I told my wife about the chili/Velveeta, chili/cream
>> > > cheese, Rotel/Velveeta, Rotel/American "cheese" she thought that
>> > > people were just posting that stuff to be funny, or to aggravate
>> > > folks
>> > > like me. I told her that I didn't think so. My wife is a
>> > > non-cooking
>> > > person, and even she thought that Rotel and Velveeta being a
>> > > reasonable excuse for a chip dip was laughable.
>> >
>> > > > --
>> > > > Peace, Om
>> >
>> > > --Bryan
>> >
>> > You don't live in the South...
>>
>> St. Louis is almost the South. People make that Velveeta/Rotel crap
>> everywhere, don't they? I bet there's about as much Velveeta/Rotel
>> dip consumed per capita in Minnesota as in Mississippi.
>
> I can tell you that nobody in the Northeast even knows what Rotel is, so
> no, they don't make that crap everywhere.

I live in the Northeast, and I know what Ro-Tel is. And one of the nearby
supermarkets (one of two, that is) carries some of their products. Your
over-education is showing, Pete.

That said, I've never purchased any Ro-Tel products. Can't say if ever
purchased Velveeta, either.

On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 16:46:32 -0500, Omelet >
wrote:

>The recent thread on dirty leeks made me think about just how many
>people have no clu' where food really comes from.


Dirty leeks? I missed the thread. I know leeks are famous for
"grit", but I've missed that bullet somehow.


--

Ham and eggs.
A day's work for the chicken, a lifetime commitment for the pig.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
news:4QMAi.28$_A5.23@trndny03...
>
> "Pete C." > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> If it's MalWart house brand, the picture on the can is what you wish was
>> actually inside...
>
> Oh dear. Can't say that I've ever bought any WalMart house brand foods.
> But I don't think I shall in the future!

Actually, it was quite representative of what was inside the can. I bought
it because of a recommendation as I'd never heard of this product. It was
not expensive and tasted fine.
Dee Dee

"Paco's Tacos" > wrote in message
news:S%MAi.510$2p5.384@trndny05...
..
>
> That said, I've never purchased any Ro-Tel products. Can't say if ever
> purchased Velveeta, either.

First day of school 1940, 6 grades in one room, 24 students. Mother fixed
my lunch of a sandwich of velveta cheese with pimentos. Wonder if they make
it with pimentos anymore.

I took a bite and threw it up on the desk. The teacher wrote a note and
asked my mom to not fix this sandwich again. My mom said, but she loves it!
Dee Dee

On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 00:20:02 -0400, "Dee Dee" >
wrote:

>Mother fixed
>my lunch of a sandwich of velveta cheese with pimentos. Wonder if they make
>it with pimentos anymore.


I remember piemento cheese! Who can forget?

Mom took me to the deli counter, told me I could pick whatever I
wanted for sanwiches and that was one of the things I picked.
needless to say, I didn't choose again.


--

Ham and eggs.
A day's work for the chicken, a lifetime commitment for the pig.

sf wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 00:20:02 -0400, "Dee Dee" >
> wrote:
>
>> Mother fixed
>> my lunch of a sandwich of velveta cheese with pimentos. Wonder if they make
>> it with pimentos anymore.
>
>
> I remember piemento cheese! Who can forget?
>
> Mom took me to the deli counter, told me I could pick whatever I
> wanted for sanwiches and that was one of the things I picked.
> needless to say, I didn't choose again.
>
I've never heard of using Velveeta for it, but Pimento Cheese is a much
loved filling down south. Usually cheddar, some minced onions
(optional), minced pimentos, some mayo mixed together.
Every year I go to The Master's at the Augusta National and I always get
the pimento cheese sandwich they are known for. Can't be beat for $1.50
or so...? Only improved with an equally inexpensive beer in the other hand.

<sf> wrote in message ...
> On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 00:20:02 -0400, "Dee Dee" >
> wrote:
>
>>Mother fixed
>>my lunch of a sandwich of velveta cheese with pimentos. Wonder if they
>>make
>>it with pimentos anymore.
>
>
> I remember piemento cheese! Who can forget?
>
> Mom took me to the deli counter, told me I could pick whatever I
> wanted for sanwiches and that was one of the things I picked.
> needless to say, I didn't choose again.
>
>

My first-grade experience must have brought on a fascination with the cheese
and pimento. When I was married in the 50's (not to DH), we used to go to
visit m-i-l on some weekends. As soon as we got there, out would come the
plates and bread and this cheese-pimento spread. Deceased Husband (how can
I write that as DH?) loved this cheese, and we wondered how she made this
great cheese spread. Duh!

One day I happened by accident into the food cellar and there she was with a
big chunk of long-horn - remember that? -- grinding it through a sausage
grinder with those little jars of pimentos opened up that she was putting it
through with the cheese. I never let on; I figured we had to have a sausage
grinder to make it.
Dee Dee

"Dee Dee" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Paco's Tacos" > wrote in message
> news:S%MAi.510$2p5.384@trndny05...
> .
>>
>> That said, I've never purchased any Ro-Tel products. Can't say if ever
>> purchased Velveeta, either.
>
> First day of school 1940, 6 grades in one room, 24 students. Mother fixed
> my lunch of a sandwich of velveta cheese with pimentos. Wonder if they
> make it with pimentos anymore.
>
> I took a bite and threw it up on the desk. The teacher wrote a note and
> asked my mom to not fix this sandwich again. My mom said, but she loves
> it!

I've had pimento cheese. I like that but it has additional ingredients in
it.

I didn't know what Velveeta was until I was an adult. My mom never bought
it. In our house it was only Kraft Singles. When I got my first apartment,
I made grilled cheese sandwiches for dinner. Roommate would not eat his
made with the Kraft Singles because he said Velveeta was the only way to go.
I was rather shocked to find out that his mom had bought the stuff because I
considered her quite a gourmet. He and I also argued over how to make the
condensed tomato soup. My mom made it with water and his mom with milk.