The recent thread on dirty leeks made me think about just how many
people have no clu' where food really comes from.

In the event of a nuclear holocaust, what is the estimated percentage of
humans that could even begin to survive? How many can consider
harvesting a wild plant for food? How many people can dress out a fresh
animal for food?

Frogs? Fish? Rabbits? Deer? Etc.?

How many people really know where food comes from (other than grossery
stores) so could survive off of the land?

How many people can hunt and gather like our ancestors did for thousands
of years?

This would make a really cool survey. :-)

I'd guestimate less than 25%, at least in American cities.
I've personally known humans that could not change a light bulb, plunge
a toilet, or roast a ham steak. (I kid you not!)

Dad is watching me type this and laughing, saying that I'm being
generous in my estimate...
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"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> The recent thread on dirty leeks made me think about just how many
> people have no clu' where food really comes from.

I wonder how many don't know how to spell clue, and don't realize how
pointless affectation wreck the beauty of language, unless you're Mark
Twain.

In article >,
"JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:

> "Omelet" > wrote in message
> news >
> > The recent thread on dirty leeks made me think about just how many
> > people have no clu' where food really comes from.
>
> I wonder how many don't know how to spell clue, and don't realize how
> pointless affectation wreck the beauty of language, unless you're Mark
> Twain.

Gee, that was helpful...
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On Aug 27, 3:51 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
> "Omelet" > wrote in message
>
> news >
> > The recent thread on dirty leeks made me think about just how many
> > people have no clu' where food really comes from.
>
> I wonder how many don't know how to spell clue, and don't realize how
> pointless affectation wreck the beauty of language, unless you're Mark
> Twain.

Shouldn't either affectation or wreck be plural?

The sentence you wrote wasn't a very beautiful use of language.

--Bryan

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Bobo Bonobo(R) > wrote:

> On Aug 27, 3:51 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
> > "Omelet" > wrote in message
> >
> > news > >
> > > The recent thread on dirty leeks made me think about just how many
> > > people have no clu' where food really comes from.
> >
> > I wonder how many don't know how to spell clue, and don't realize how
> > pointless affectation wreck the beauty of language, unless you're Mark
> > Twain.
>
> Shouldn't either affectation or wreck be plural?
>
> The sentence you wrote wasn't a very beautiful use of language.
>
> --Bryan

I've always found it fascinating that the majority of people that do
spelling flames screw up their own language use. ;-)

It's funny as hell.
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On 2007-08-27, Omelet > wrote:
>
> I've always found it fascinating that the majority of people that do
> spelling flames screw up their own language use. ;-)
>
> It's funny as hell.

Yep. BTW, Hell should be capitalized. :P

nb

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notbob > wrote:

> On 2007-08-27, Omelet > wrote:
> >
> > I've always found it fascinating that the majority of people that do
> > spelling flames screw up their own language use. ;-)
> >
> > It's funny as hell.
>
> Yep. BTW, Hell should be capitalized. :P
>
> nb

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"Bobo Bonobo®" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> On Aug 27, 3:51 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
>> "Omelet" > wrote in message
>>
>> news >>
>> > The recent thread on dirty leeks made me think about just how many
>> > people have no clu' where food really comes from.
>>
>> I wonder how many don't know how to spell clue, and don't realize how
>> pointless affectation wreck the beauty of language, unless you're Mark
>> Twain.
>
> Shouldn't either affectation or wreck be plural?
>
> The sentence you wrote wasn't a very beautiful use of language.
>
> --Bryan

You're absolutely correct. But, that was a mistake. Om's linguistic horror
show is intentional, to draw attention. What a charter life underwriter has
to do with dirty vegetables is beyond me.

On Aug 27, 5:12 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
> "Bobo Bonobo®" > wrote in message
>
> oups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Aug 27, 3:51 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
> >> "Omelet" > wrote in message
>
> >>news
>
> >> > The recent thread on dirty leeks made me think about just how many
> >> > people have no clu' where food really comes from.
>
> >> I wonder how many don't know how to spell clue, and don't realize how
> >> pointless affectation wreck the beauty of language, unless you're Mark
> >> Twain.
>
> > Shouldn't either affectation or wreck be plural?
>
> > The sentence you wrote wasn't a very beautiful use of language.
>
> > --Bryan
>
> You're absolutely correct. But, that was a mistake. Om's linguistic horror
> show is intentional, to draw attention. What a charter life underwriter has
> to do with dirty vegetables is beyond me.

You know, for all the sh!t I give people around here, it really isn't
at all personal.
I don't think it's wrong to go off on folks who SandraLeeify* this NG.

I get along pretty well with Om some of the time, and when there were
a bunch of people ganging up on Jill, who I don't particularly like,
and it was about stuff that was personal, I just didn't participate at
all. I'm not saying that I act better than most others in general,
but in the midst of all the stuff on this NG, I manage to get a few
tidbits of info that help me make better food, and I try to save my
insults for the kind of lazy shortcut, crappy ingredient
recommendations that make for bad food.
Bad ingredients in, bad food out.
Do I practice lazy cooking? You bet. Do I serve it to company?
Well, no. Do I describe serving pasta with jarred pasta sauce here?
No. What would that do to help make people better cooks?
I'm chairing my son's school's PTO "father's pancake breakfast" thing
because I want to make the quality of the food better. I might well
get stuck with that job for six years, OK. That really is OK.
I'm just glad that over the weekend I will be eating well, in an
idyllically beautiful place, with nice people. You'll get photos.

* I had never even heard of Sandra Lee until a few months ago, on this
NG

--Bryan

In article . com>,
Bobo Bonobo(R) > wrote:

> I'm just glad that over the weekend I will be eating well, in an
> idyllically beautiful place, with nice people. You'll get photos.

We look forward to them. :-)

And I don't watch Sandra Lee.

Who is she?
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In article >,
"JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:

> "Bobo Bonobo®" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
> > On Aug 27, 3:51 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
> >> "Omelet" > wrote in message
> >>
> >> news > >>
> >> > The recent thread on dirty leeks made me think about just how many
> >> > people have no clu' where food really comes from.
> >>
> >> I wonder how many don't know how to spell clue, and don't realize how
> >> pointless affectation wreck the beauty of language, unless you're Mark
> >> Twain.
> >
> > Shouldn't either affectation or wreck be plural?
> >
> > The sentence you wrote wasn't a very beautiful use of language.
> >
> > --Bryan
>
> You're absolutely correct. But, that was a mistake. Om's linguistic horror
> show is intentional, to draw attention. What a charter life underwriter has
> to do with dirty vegetables is beyond me.

Using an apostrophe in place of the e was perfectly acceptable. Even my
spell checker did not sneeze over it.

Get used to modern slang. It's far more fun!
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"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> In article >,
> "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
>
>> "Bobo Bonobo®" > wrote in message
>> oups.com...
>> > On Aug 27, 3:51 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
>> >> "Omelet" > wrote in message
>> >>
>> >> news >> >>
>> >> > The recent thread on dirty leeks made me think about just how many
>> >> > people have no clu' where food really comes from.
>> >>
>> >> I wonder how many don't know how to spell clue, and don't realize how
>> >> pointless affectation wreck the beauty of language, unless you're Mark
>> >> Twain.
>> >
>> > Shouldn't either affectation or wreck be plural?
>> >
>> > The sentence you wrote wasn't a very beautiful use of language.
>> >
>> > --Bryan
>>
>> You're absolutely correct. But, that was a mistake. Om's linguistic
>> horror
>> show is intentional, to draw attention. What a charter life underwriter
>> has
>> to do with dirty vegetables is beyond me.
>
> Using an apostrophe in place of the e was perfectly acceptable. Even my
> spell checker did not sneeze over it.
>
> Get used to modern slang. It's far more fun!

No. It's lame. There may be children watching. Children learn by example.
Your writing contains things children should not see. They need to be
employable in the future. If you cannot read, write and speak well, you are
as valuable to an employer as a melted ice cream cone on the sidewalk.

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>
> "Omelet" > wrote in message
> news >
> > The recent thread on dirty leeks made me think about just
> > how many people have no clu' where food really comes from.
>
> I wonder how many don't know how to spell clue, and don't
> realize how pointless affectation wreck the beauty of
> language, unless you're Mark Twain.

It's whitetrashbonics, which is rapidly gaining acceptance
as a legitimate dialect of the American language. :-)

"Mark Thorson" > wrote in message
...
> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>
>> "Omelet" > wrote in message
>> news >>
>> > The recent thread on dirty leeks made me think about just
>> > how many people have no clu' where food really comes from.
>>
>> I wonder how many don't know how to spell clue, and don't
>> realize how pointless affectation wreck the beauty of
>> language, unless you're Mark Twain.
>
> It's whitetrashbonics, which is rapidly gaining acceptance
> as a legitimate dialect of the American language. :-)

That certainly describes Omelet perfectly. She also likes to throw the
occasional foreign phrase into her messages in order to appear worldly.
Chooks, indeed.

In article >,
"JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:

> "Mark Thorson" > wrote in message
> ...
> > JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> >>
> >> "Omelet" > wrote in message
> >> news > >>
> >> > The recent thread on dirty leeks made me think about just
> >> > how many people have no clu' where food really comes from.
> >>
> >> I wonder how many don't know how to spell clue, and don't
> >> realize how pointless affectation wreck the beauty of
> >> language, unless you're Mark Twain.
> >
> > It's whitetrashbonics, which is rapidly gaining acceptance
> > as a legitimate dialect of the American language. :-)
>
> That certainly describes Omelet perfectly. She also likes to throw the
> occasional foreign phrase into her messages in order to appear worldly.
> Chooks, indeed.

I started my internet career on a poultry list...
It was not just the Aussies that called them "chooks".

I'm sorry that you are so enamored of only one dialect.

Your loss babe.
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"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> In article >,
> "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
>
>> "Mark Thorson" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>> >>
>> >> "Omelet" > wrote in message
>> >> news >> >>
>> >> > The recent thread on dirty leeks made me think about just
>> >> > how many people have no clu' where food really comes from.
>> >>
>> >> I wonder how many don't know how to spell clue, and don't
>> >> realize how pointless affectation wreck the beauty of
>> >> language, unless you're Mark Twain.
>> >
>> > It's whitetrashbonics, which is rapidly gaining acceptance
>> > as a legitimate dialect of the American language. :-)
>>
>> That certainly describes Omelet perfectly. She also likes to throw the
>> occasional foreign phrase into her messages in order to appear worldly.
>> Chooks, indeed.
>
> I started my internet career on a poultry list...
> It was not just the Aussies that called them "chooks".
>
> I'm sorry that you are so enamored of only one dialect.
>
> Your loss babe.
> --
> Peace, Om

I've got you sussed.

Omelet wrote:
>
> I've personally known humans that could not change a light bulb, plunge a toilet, or roast a ham steak. (I kid you not!)

Do you mean all at the same time... must be one of those Polack jokes!
hehe

Um, I don't think ham steak would be good roasted, probably dry out...
better quickly fried... with white gravy, a side of grits, and
buttermilk biscuits.


Sheldon Ya'll

In article . com>,
Sheldon > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> >
> > I've personally known humans that could not change a light bulb, plunge a
> > toilet, or roast a ham steak. (I kid you not!)
>
> Do you mean all at the same time... must be one of those Polack jokes!
> hehe
>
> Um, I don't think ham steak would be good roasted, probably dry out...
> better quickly fried... with white gravy, a side of grits, and
> buttermilk biscuits.
>
>
> Sheldon Ya'll

She didn't know how to cook it at all... ;-)

You did not answer the question.
I guess that makes you and Joe both Ignorant.
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Omelet wrote:
> Sheldon wrote:
> > Omelet wrote:
>
> > > I've personally known humans that could not change a light bulb, plunge a
> > > toilet, or roast a ham steak. (I kid you not!)
>
> > Do you mean all at the same time... must be one of those Polack jokes!
> > hehe
>
> > Um, I don't think ham steak would be good roasted, probably dry out...
> > better quickly fried... with white gravy, a side of grits, and
> > buttermilk biscuits.
>
> > Sheldon Ya'll
>
> She didn't know how to cook it at all... ;-)
>
> You did not answer the question.
> I guess that makes you and Joe both Ignorant.

No, that makes just you ignorant.

I wasn't asked any question, that was my only post to this thread. In
my scanning this thread I spotted that one comment pertaining to food
that stuck out like a limp penis ("roast a ham steak"), I addressed it
anyway even though I wasn't specifically asked. So what's your
question, perhaps I can be of further service... but I'm not going
back to read an entire thread of OT gobbledygook in which I had no
other participation whatsoever. And anyway, I've known for a very
long time the answer to the title of this thread (90pct+), thanks for
demonstrating your concurrance.

Sheldon

In article . com>,
Sheldon > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> > Sheldon wrote:
> > > Omelet wrote:
> >
> > > > I've personally known humans that could not change a light bulb, plunge
> > > > a
> > > > toilet, or roast a ham steak. (I kid you not!)
> >
> > > Do you mean all at the same time... must be one of those Polack jokes!
> > > hehe
> >
> > > Um, I don't think ham steak would be good roasted, probably dry out...
> > > better quickly fried... with white gravy, a side of grits, and
> > > buttermilk biscuits.
> >
> > > Sheldon Ya'll
> >
> > She didn't know how to cook it at all... ;-)
> >
> > You did not answer the question.
> > I guess that makes you and Joe both Ignorant.
>
> No, that makes just you ignorant.
>
> I wasn't asked any question, that was my only post to this thread. In
> my scanning this thread I spotted that one comment pertaining to food
> that stuck out like a limp penis ("roast a ham steak"), I addressed it
> anyway even though I wasn't specifically asked. So what's your
> question, perhaps I can be of further service... but I'm not going
> back to read an entire thread of OT gobbledygook in which I had no
> other participation whatsoever. And anyway, I've known for a very
> long time the answer to the title of this thread (90pct+), thanks for
> demonstrating your concurrance.
>
> Sheldon

90% death rate? ;-)

That's an impressively high estimate.

I take it you talk to a lot of people...
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On Aug 27, 3:46 pm, Omelet > wrote:
>
>
> Dad is watching me type this and laughing, saying that I'm being
> generous in my estimate...

Funny, but when I told my wife about the chili/Velveeta, chili/cream
cheese, Rotel/Velveeta, Rotel/American "cheese" she thought that
people were just posting that stuff to be funny, or to aggravate folks
like me. I told her that I didn't think so. My wife is a non-cooking
person, and even she thought that Rotel and Velveeta being a
reasonable excuse for a chip dip was laughable.

> --
> Peace, Om

--Bryan

In article . com>,
Bobo Bonobo(R) > wrote:

> On Aug 27, 3:46 pm, Omelet > wrote:
> >
> >
> > Dad is watching me type this and laughing, saying that I'm being
> > generous in my estimate...
>
> Funny, but when I told my wife about the chili/Velveeta, chili/cream
> cheese, Rotel/Velveeta, Rotel/American "cheese" she thought that
> people were just posting that stuff to be funny, or to aggravate folks
> like me. I told her that I didn't think so. My wife is a non-cooking
> person, and even she thought that Rotel and Velveeta being a
> reasonable excuse for a chip dip was laughable.
>
> > --
> > Peace, Om
>
> --Bryan

You don't live in the South...

but now you are showing YOUR ignorance.

I presume you are incapable of living off of the land since you changed
the subject?
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On Aug 27, 4:41 pm, Omelet > wrote:
> In article . com>,
> Bobo Bonobo(R) > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Aug 27, 3:46 pm, Omelet > wrote:
>
> > > Dad is watching me type this and laughing, saying that I'm being
> > > generous in my estimate...
>
> > Funny, but when I told my wife about the chili/Velveeta, chili/cream
> > cheese, Rotel/Velveeta, Rotel/American "cheese" she thought that
> > people were just posting that stuff to be funny, or to aggravate folks
> > like me. I told her that I didn't think so. My wife is a non-cooking
> > person, and even she thought that Rotel and Velveeta being a
> > reasonable excuse for a chip dip was laughable.
>
> > > --
> > > Peace, Om
>
> > --Bryan
>
> You don't live in the South...

St. Louis is almost the South. People make that Velveeta/Rotel crap
everywhere, don't they? I bet there's about as much Velveeta/Rotel
dip consumed per capita in Minnesota as in Mississippi.
>
> but now you are showing YOUR ignorance.

No, I'm showing my assh0lishness maybe, but are you going to defend
serving Velveeta/Rotel in a crock pot?
>
> I presume you are incapable of living off of the land since you changed
> the subject?

I might have trouble catching animals, but once I got my hands on
them, I could easily dispatch and process them. I might have trouble
climbing a tree to get at a bird's nest, but I think that I could
fight off the parent birds pretty successfully. I've eaten speared
bottom-feeder fish nearly raw when I was drunk and hungry.

I might have a bit of trouble surviving "off of the land" if I didn't
have access to a gun with bullets, fishing hooks and monofilament
line, etc. I'd probably end up so hungry that Velveeta/Rotel in a
crock pot would sound pretty appealing.
Fortunately, that's unlikely to occur. Instead, I'm going camping
this weekend with a bunch of other food snobs. I can assure you that
there won't be any process cheese or jarred mayo at our little
campsite on a beautiful Ozark creek, over a mile from pavement. My
younger nephew is making the mayo Wednesday, and we're leaving
Thursday noonish. We're going to have grass fed sirloins, grilled
over hickory wood for dinner. I really do need to do a little photo
essay, post the pix on the web, and put the links on this NG. Only
the food of course.

> --
> Peace, Om

--Bryan

Bobo Bonobo® wrote:
>
> On Aug 27, 4:41 pm, Omelet > wrote:
> > In article . com>,
> > Bobo Bonobo(R) > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Aug 27, 3:46 pm, Omelet > wrote:
> >
> > > > Dad is watching me type this and laughing, saying that I'm being
> > > > generous in my estimate...
> >
> > > Funny, but when I told my wife about the chili/Velveeta, chili/cream
> > > cheese, Rotel/Velveeta, Rotel/American "cheese" she thought that
> > > people were just posting that stuff to be funny, or to aggravate folks
> > > like me. I told her that I didn't think so. My wife is a non-cooking
> > > person, and even she thought that Rotel and Velveeta being a
> > > reasonable excuse for a chip dip was laughable.
> >
> > > > --
> > > > Peace, Om
> >
> > > --Bryan
> >
> > You don't live in the South...
>
> St. Louis is almost the South. People make that Velveeta/Rotel crap
> everywhere, don't they? I bet there's about as much Velveeta/Rotel
> dip consumed per capita in Minnesota as in Mississippi.

I can tell you that nobody in the Northeast even knows what Rotel is, so
no, they don't make that crap everywhere.

On Aug 27, 6:11 pm, "Pete C." > wrote:
> Bobo Bonobo® wrote:
>
> > On Aug 27, 4:41 pm, Omelet > wrote:
> > > In article . com>,
> > > Bobo Bonobo(R) > wrote:
>
> > > > On Aug 27, 3:46 pm, Omelet > wrote:
>
> > > > > Dad is watching me type this and laughing, saying that I'm being
> > > > > generous in my estimate...
>
> > > > Funny, but when I told my wife about the chili/Velveeta, chili/cream
> > > > cheese, Rotel/Velveeta, Rotel/American "cheese" she thought that
> > > > people were just posting that stuff to be funny, or to aggravate folks
> > > > like me. I told her that I didn't think so. My wife is a non-cooking
> > > > person, and even she thought that Rotel and Velveeta being a
> > > > reasonable excuse for a chip dip was laughable.
>
> > > > > --
> > > > > Peace, Om
>
> > > > --Bryan
>
> > > You don't live in the South...
>
> > St. Louis is almost the South. People make that Velveeta/Rotel crap
> > everywhere, don't they? I bet there's about as much Velveeta/Rotel
> > dip consumed per capita in Minnesota as in Mississippi.
>
> I can tell you that nobody in the Northeast even knows what Rotel is, so
> no, they don't make that crap everywhere.

They don't sell Rotel there? Canned tomatoes with green chilies?
They're not a bad thing for making chili. I was pointing out that the
Rotel/Velveeta stuff is also made in the Midwest, including the upper
Midwest. Thank whatever diety or other thing you thank that you have
never been served that combo. Perhaps you've seen (or eaten) cheese
sauce on nachos. We residents of the Midwest and South have to
contend with all manner of Krafty dishes. The only truly bad thing I
know of in the NE is Manhattan style clam chowder, which even some New
Yorkers reject.
'Round here, there are counties where cattle outnumber humans, and the
residents still refer to oleomargarine as "butter." As recently as 5
or 6 years ago, I've found myself at a restaurant in a fist tier
suburb of StL where they served only margarine.
Again, thank whatever you please ...

--Bryan

"Pete C." > wrote in message
...
> Bobo Bonobo® wrote:
>>
>> On Aug 27, 4:41 pm, Omelet > wrote:
>> > In article . com>,
>> > Bobo Bonobo(R) > wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > On Aug 27, 3:46 pm, Omelet > wrote:
>> >
>> > > > Dad is watching me type this and laughing, saying that I'm being
>> > > > generous in my estimate...
>> >
>> > > Funny, but when I told my wife about the chili/Velveeta, chili/cream
>> > > cheese, Rotel/Velveeta, Rotel/American "cheese" she thought that
>> > > people were just posting that stuff to be funny, or to aggravate
>> > > folks
>> > > like me. I told her that I didn't think so. My wife is a
>> > > non-cooking
>> > > person, and even she thought that Rotel and Velveeta being a
>> > > reasonable excuse for a chip dip was laughable.
>> >
>> > > > --
>> > > > Peace, Om
>> >
>> > > --Bryan
>> >
>> > You don't live in the South...
>>
>> St. Louis is almost the South. People make that Velveeta/Rotel crap
>> everywhere, don't they? I bet there's about as much Velveeta/Rotel
>> dip consumed per capita in Minnesota as in Mississippi.
>
> I can tell you that nobody in the Northeast even knows what Rotel is, so
> no, they don't make that crap everywhere.

I live in the Northeast, and I know what Ro-Tel is. And one of the nearby
supermarkets (one of two, that is) carries some of their products. Your
over-education is showing, Pete.

That said, I've never purchased any Ro-Tel products. Can't say if ever
purchased Velveeta, either.

In article .com>,
Bobo Bonobo(R) > wrote:

> On Aug 27, 4:41 pm, Omelet > wrote:
> > In article . com>,
> > Bobo Bonobo(R) > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Aug 27, 3:46 pm, Omelet > wrote:
> >
> > > > Dad is watching me type this and laughing, saying that I'm being
> > > > generous in my estimate...
> >
> > > Funny, but when I told my wife about the chili/Velveeta, chili/cream
> > > cheese, Rotel/Velveeta, Rotel/American "cheese" she thought that
> > > people were just posting that stuff to be funny, or to aggravate folks
> > > like me. I told her that I didn't think so. My wife is a non-cooking
> > > person, and even she thought that Rotel and Velveeta being a
> > > reasonable excuse for a chip dip was laughable.
> >
> > > > --
> > > > Peace, Om
> >
> > > --Bryan
> >
> > You don't live in the South...
>
> St. Louis is almost the South. People make that Velveeta/Rotel crap
> everywhere, don't they? I bet there's about as much Velveeta/Rotel
> dip consumed per capita in Minnesota as in Mississippi.
> >
> > but now you are showing YOUR ignorance.
>
> No, I'm showing my assh0lishness maybe, but are you going to defend
> serving Velveeta/Rotel in a crock pot?

Actually, I never make it. I think it's gross. ;-)
I like the cream cheese variation however. It's quite tasty.

> >
> > I presume you are incapable of living off of the land since you changed
> > the subject?
>
> I might have trouble catching animals, but once I got my hands on
> them, I could easily dispatch and process them. I might have trouble
> climbing a tree to get at a bird's nest, but I think that I could
> fight off the parent birds pretty successfully. I've eaten speared
> bottom-feeder fish nearly raw when I was drunk and hungry.

Details please? Sounds like good reading.

>
> I might have a bit of trouble surviving "off of the land" if I didn't
> have access to a gun with bullets, fishing hooks and monofilament
> line, etc. I'd probably end up so hungry that Velveeta/Rotel in a
> crock pot would sound pretty appealing.

<lol>

So stock up on ammo before the price goes any higher and learn to
reload. ;-)

> Fortunately, that's unlikely to occur. Instead, I'm going camping
> this weekend with a bunch of other food snobs. I can assure you that
> there won't be any process cheese or jarred mayo at our little
> campsite on a beautiful Ozark creek, over a mile from pavement. My
> younger nephew is making the mayo Wednesday, and we're leaving
> Thursday noonish. We're going to have grass fed sirloins, grilled
> over hickory wood for dinner. I really do need to do a little photo
> essay, post the pix on the web, and put the links on this NG. Only
> the food of course.

Please do... but, no fresh caught fish on a camping trip? Perish the
thought!

>
> --Bryan
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Bobo Bonobo® wrote

>> I presume you are incapable of living off of the land since you
>> changed the subject?

> I might have trouble catching animals, but once I got my hands on
> them, I could easily dispatch and process them. I might have
trouble
> climbing a tree to get at a bird's nest, but I think that I could
> fight off the parent birds pretty successfully. I've eaten speared
> bottom-feeder fish nearly raw when I was drunk and hungry.

So you'd need a good stock of booze? Same for me: gimme da booze and I
can outlive the whole darn Paleolithic.
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In article >,
"Vilco" > wrote:

> Bobo Bonobo® wrote
>
> >> I presume you are incapable of living off of the land since you
> >> changed the subject?
>
> > I might have trouble catching animals, but once I got my hands on
> > them, I could easily dispatch and process them. I might have
> trouble
> > climbing a tree to get at a bird's nest, but I think that I could
> > fight off the parent birds pretty successfully. I've eaten speared
> > bottom-feeder fish nearly raw when I was drunk and hungry.
>
> So you'd need a good stock of booze? Same for me: gimme da booze and I
> can outlive the whole darn Paleolithic.

Booze would be good barter material.
So would cigarettes and other herbal drugs.
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On Aug 27, 6:41 pm, Omelet > wrote:
> In article . com>,
> Bobo Bonobo(R) > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 27, 3:46 pm, Omelet > wrote:
>
> > > Dad is watching me type this and laughing, saying that I'm being
> > > generous in my estimate...
>
> > Funny, but when I told my wife about the chili/Velveeta, chili/cream
> > cheese, Rotel/Velveeta, Rotel/American "cheese" she thought that
> > people were just posting that stuff to be funny, or to aggravate folks
> > like me. I told her that I didn't think so. My wife is a non-cooking
> > person, and even she thought that Rotel and Velveeta being a
> > reasonable excuse for a chip dip was laughable.
>
> > > --
> > > Peace, Om
>
> > --Bryan
>
> You don't live in the South...
>
> but now you are showing YOUR ignorance.
>
> I presume you are incapable of living off of the land since you changed
> the subject?

What land? Much of the population lives on a quarter acre.
Planting corn and hunting rabbits in the back yard sound right to you?

On Aug 27, 11:17 pm, Terry > wrote:
> On Aug 27, 6:41 pm, Omelet > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article . com>,
> > Bobo Bonobo(R) > wrote:
>
> > > On Aug 27, 3:46 pm, Omelet > wrote:
>
> > > > Dad is watching me type this and laughing, saying that I'm being
> > > > generous in my estimate...
>
> > > Funny, but when I told my wife about the chili/Velveeta, chili/cream
> > > cheese, Rotel/Velveeta, Rotel/American "cheese" she thought that
> > > people were just posting that stuff to be funny, or to aggravate folks
> > > like me. I told her that I didn't think so. My wife is a non-cooking
> > > person, and even she thought that Rotel and Velveeta being a
> > > reasonable excuse for a chip dip was laughable.
>
> > > > --
> > > > Peace, Om
>
> > > --Bryan
>
> > You don't live in the South...
>
> > but now you are showing YOUR ignorance.
>
> > I presume you are incapable of living off of the land since you changed
> > the subject?
>
> What land? Much of the population lives on a quarter acre.
> Planting corn and hunting rabbits in the back yard sound right to you?

I didn't get to add that most would be fighting for other's
provisions.

In article . com>,
Terry > wrote:

> > What land? Much of the population lives on a quarter acre.
> > Planting corn and hunting rabbits in the back yard sound right to you?
>
> I didn't get to add that most would be fighting for other's
> provisions.

All the more reason to be armed.
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Terry > wrote:

> > I presume you are incapable of living off of the land since you changed
> > the subject?
>
> What land? Much of the population lives on a quarter acre.
> Planting corn and hunting rabbits in the back yard sound right to you?

There is still plenty of "wild" land around.
You just have to know what is edible of the local Flora, and know how to
cook the local Fauna.
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In article . com>,
Bobo Bonobo(R) > wrote:


> Funny, but when I told my wife about the chili/Velveeta, chili/cream
> cheese, Rotel/Velveeta, Rotel/American "cheese" she thought that
> people were just posting that stuff to be funny, or to aggravate folks
> like me. I told her that I didn't think so. My wife is a non-cooking
> person, and even she thought that Rotel and Velveeta being a
> reasonable excuse for a chip dip was laughable.


Well, it tastes good. Not my #1 choice, but edible.

In article
>,
Dan Abel > wrote:

> In article . com>,
> Bobo Bonobo(R) > wrote:
>
>
> > Funny, but when I told my wife about the chili/Velveeta, chili/cream
> > cheese, Rotel/Velveeta, Rotel/American "cheese" she thought that
> > people were just posting that stuff to be funny, or to aggravate folks
> > like me. I told her that I didn't think so. My wife is a non-cooking
> > person, and even she thought that Rotel and Velveeta being a
> > reasonable excuse for a chip dip was laughable.
>
>
> Well, it tastes good. Not my #1 choice, but edible.

Considering the fact that chips are a faux' food in the first place. <g>
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"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> The recent thread on dirty leeks made me think about just how many
> people have no clu' where food really comes from.
>
> In the event of a nuclear holocaust, what is the estimated percentage of
> humans that could even begin to survive? How many can consider
> harvesting a wild plant for food? How many people can dress out a fresh
> animal for food?
> Frogs? Fish? Rabbits? Deer? Etc.?
> How many people really know where food comes from (other than grossery
> stores) so could survive off of the land?
> How many people can hunt and gather like our ancestors did for thousands
> of years?
> This would make a really cool survey. :-)
> Peace, Om
>
>

Since most of us have pets, would you friccasee your cat if you were
fixin' to starve? Hard to think about.
I have enough calories in jam form to last a couple years.. And enough
herbals in text and preserved to stay alive awhile anyway.
Neat book series was _Island in the Sea of Time_ by S.M. Stirling.
Explored what happened when Nantucket Island and a Coast Guard ship were
tripped back to 1300 bc. Lots of very coincidental things happened to help
them survive, but very eye opening on just how hard it is to "live off the
land." Edrena

The Joneses wrote:
>
> "Omelet" > wrote in message
> news
> > The recent thread on dirty leeks made me think about just how many
> > people have no clu' where food really comes from.
> >
> > In the event of a nuclear holocaust, what is the estimated percentage of
> > humans that could even begin to survive? How many can consider
> > harvesting a wild plant for food? How many people can dress out a fresh
> > animal for food?
> > Frogs? Fish? Rabbits? Deer? Etc.?
> > How many people really know where food comes from (other than grossery
> > stores) so could survive off of the land?
> > How many people can hunt and gather like our ancestors did for thousands
> > of years?
> > This would make a really cool survey. :-)
> > Peace, Om
> >
> >
>
> Since most of us have pets, would you friccasee your cat if you were
> fixin' to starve? Hard to think about.

My cat? Hell no! A neighbors dog, or the neighbor in a real PNH
scenario, absolutely.

In article >,
"Pete C." > wrote:

> > Since most of us have pets, would you friccasee your cat if you were
> > fixin' to starve? Hard to think about.
>
> My cat? Hell no! A neighbors dog, or the neighbor in a real PNH
> scenario, absolutely.

Damn.

That one nearly cost me a keyboard. ;-D

I can empathize.
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"Pete C." > wrote in message
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> The Joneses wrote:
>>
>> "Omelet" > wrote in message
>> news
>> > The recent thread on dirty leeks made me think about just how many
>> > people have no clu' where food really comes from.
>> >
>> > In the event of a nuclear holocaust, what is the estimated percentage
>> > of
>> > humans that could even begin to survive? How many can consider
>> > harvesting a wild plant for food? How many people can dress out a fresh
>> > animal for food?
>> > Frogs? Fish? Rabbits? Deer? Etc.?
>> > How many people really know where food comes from (other than grossery
>> > stores) so could survive off of the land?
>> > How many people can hunt and gather like our ancestors did for
>> > thousands
>> > of years?
>> > This would make a really cool survey. :-)
>> > Peace, Om
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Since most of us have pets, would you friccasee your cat if you were
>> fixin' to starve? Hard to think about.
>
> My cat? Hell no! A neighbors dog, or the neighbor in a real PNH
> scenario, absolutely.

Oh, hey, now I'm with you . . . my neighbor, she's a little boney, but
stewed (as I'd like to see her) I think she'd be fine. On the other hand,
it could be dangerous to eat her. I know she's off her meds right now
because she's calling the cops all the time about peeping Toms and missing
plants but those meds build up in the meat and could cause the eater harm.
Good idea though.
Janet

In article >,
"The Joneses" > wrote:

> "Omelet" > wrote in message
> news
> > The recent thread on dirty leeks made me think about just how many
> > people have no clu' where food really comes from.
> >
> > In the event of a nuclear holocaust, what is the estimated percentage of
> > humans that could even begin to survive? How many can consider
> > harvesting a wild plant for food? How many people can dress out a fresh
> > animal for food?
> > Frogs? Fish? Rabbits? Deer? Etc.?
> > How many people really know where food comes from (other than grossery
> > stores) so could survive off of the land?
> > How many people can hunt and gather like our ancestors did for thousands
> > of years?
> > This would make a really cool survey. :-)
> > Peace, Om
> >
> >
>
> Since most of us have pets, would you friccasee your cat if you were
> fixin' to starve? Hard to think about.

I'd live off my body fat first.
There is also quite a bit to eat in this area. I have some box traps so
I'd trap local wildlife to FEED my cats.

> I have enough calories in jam form to last a couple years.. And enough
> herbals in text and preserved to stay alive awhile anyway.
> Neat book series was _Island in the Sea of Time_ by S.M. Stirling.
> Explored what happened when Nantucket Island and a Coast Guard ship were
> tripped back to 1300 bc. Lots of very coincidental things happened to help
> them survive, but very eye opening on just how hard it is to "live off the
> land." Edrena

So what percentage of the population do you think would starve to death?
I have enough shotgun rounds to defend my food supply for awhile anyway.
;-)
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