In article >, "cybercat" >
wrote:

> "The Ranger" > wrote
> >
> > Nuh-uh! Macaroni salad is ONLY made with mini-shells, relish, black
> > olives, hard-boiled egg and miracle whip!
>
> Nooooo. Macaroni is ELBOW macaroni. When have you ever seen
> that name, "Macaroni" on any pasta product not shaped like elbows?

Macaroni Grill:

http://www.macaronigrill.com/Home/Default.aspx
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In article . com>,
Bobo Bonobo® > wrote:

> On Aug 28, 10:45 am, Sheldon > wrote:
> > Bobo wrote:
> > > I have to empty the trash can in the employee lunchroom on
> > > Thursdays. I find even the smell of most of their vinegar/mayo/tuna/
> > > whatever other icky stuff that's on there pretty repulsive.
> >
> > You're the janitor? That's a noble profession, hey, at least you
> > work... better than being a welfare parasite. You're going to have to
> > do a lot better than emptying the trash just once a week, that's why
> > it stinks so...
>
> I only work one evening shift a week. Someone else has the
> responsibility for emptying that trash the other six days.
>
> > which day do you empty the used tampon basket in the terlit...
>
> My co-worker does the restrooms every morning. Lots of overuse of
> chlorine bleach. He empties the sanitary containers every day.
> Curiously, the one thing he doesn't do is the formica around the
> sinks. The Saturday guys catch that up.
>
> I mostly do floors and carpet cleaning, and setting up lots of tables
> and chairs.
>
> > in comparison week old tuna salad should be ambrosia.
>
> No week old anything, neither tampons nor tuna.
>
> --Bryan

Oh gag.

I'm not even a sanitation engineer but since I work night shifts, I
still do some cleanup work.

I'll leave it to housekeeping personnel to empty the bathroom trash.

But I have been known to take acid to the commode in the patient waiting
area. We need to keep our ratings high.
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In article >,
"JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:

> I have a serious question. In most schools, there is a problem with the
> water fountains. They're adjusted so hardly any water comes out, so you have
> to come into contact with the metal spout, which no sane person will do. Is
> there a secret society of janitors which requires this?

Why are you drinking out of water fountains?
I carry my own water bottles. <shudder>

And you accuse ME of being white trash? <shrugs>
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"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> In article >,
> "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
>
>> I have a serious question. In most schools, there is a problem with the
>> water fountains. They're adjusted so hardly any water comes out, so you
>> have
>> to come into contact with the metal spout, which no sane person will do.
>> Is
>> there a secret society of janitors which requires this?
>
> Why are you drinking out of water fountains?
> I carry my own water bottles. <shudder>
>
> And you accuse ME of being white trash? <shrugs>

There is nothing wrong with drinking from water fountains which are working
properly.

In article >,
"JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:

> "Omelet" > wrote in message
> news
> > In article >,
> > "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
> >
> >> I have a serious question. In most schools, there is a problem with the
> >> water fountains. They're adjusted so hardly any water comes out, so you
> >> have
> >> to come into contact with the metal spout, which no sane person will do.
> >> Is
> >> there a secret society of janitors which requires this?
> >
> > Why are you drinking out of water fountains?
> > I carry my own water bottles. <shudder>
> >
> > And you accuse ME of being white trash? <shrugs>
>
> There is nothing wrong with drinking from water fountains which are working
> properly.

Ew.

Sorry, but just EW!!!

That's like running a kissing booth.

For free.
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"Robert L Bass" > wrote
> I like to cook different types with various recipes. Once I try one out
> and it works as written I will usually start experimenting.

I love spiral pasta (rotini) for cheesy, meaty, garlicky things, because
each individual noodle catches good stuff.

wrote:

> From the time I was born some 50 years ago, it was called spaghetti.
> My mother made it, we got it in the school cafeteria. we ate it in
> restaurants, and my relatives served it. It was always called
> SPAGHETTI. All of a sudden it seems the name has changed to pasta.
> What the hell is PASTA?
>
> I thought I was just over reacting and the word Pasta was just
> something used by the ultra-wealthy because they always seem to use a
> fancy name for something in order to raise the price, such as calling
> coffee, java. Everyone knows that java costs two, three or more times
> the price of a cup of coffee, and its the same darn thing.
>
> It was not until the other day when I went to the grocery store and
> asked this 20ish looking store employee where to find the spaghetti
> sauce. He looked at me and said "what's that"? I was shocked and
> felt like telling the idiot to find a different job if he dont know
> what the #$%^ spaghetti sauce is, but I did my best to remain calm and
> say "pasta sauce". He knew right where that was.......
>
> Has the word "spaghetti" been banned for some reason? Is there some
> sort of politically incorrect sexual connotation to that word that
> offends the religious right, or what? Or does it just cost more
> because they now call it pasta?
>
> JB

Ever hear of the reorient "Spago"? which means string, spaghetti is just
the diminutive form of spago.

Your experience sounds sort of like the one i had at a whole foods store
when i asked where they kept the coke and pepsi and i was informed they
did not sell "such things."

It is a form of snobbery, nothing else.
--
JL

> On 28-Aug-2007, "cybercat" > wrote:
>> "The Ranger" > wrote
>> >
>> > Nuh-uh! Macaroni salad is ONLY made with
>> > mini-shells, relish, black olives, hard-boiled egg
>> > and miracle whip!
>> >
>> Nooooo. Macaroni is ELBOW macaroni. When
>> have you ever seen that name, "Macaroni" on any
>> pasta product not shaped like elbows?

I'm looking at the deli-made dish right now... "Macaroni Salad w/
Best Mayo" made with ditalini pasta. It's very bland but this one
has red onions and pimento mixed in with dill relish so I thought
I'd give it a try. I'll stick to using Miracle Whip but might swap
out the sweet relish for dill.

The Ranger

Omelet wrote:

> In article <EKRAi.110$Lz5.21@trndny04>,
> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>
>
>>>Has the word "spaghetti" been banned for some reason? Is there some
>>>sort of politically incorrect sexual connotation to that word that
>>>offends the religious right, or what? Or does it just cost more
>>>because they now call it pasta?
>>
>>It has been called pasta for years, because that's what it is.
>
>
> "Pasta" covers the entire massive spectrum of flour based Italian
> noodles.
>
> I rather like Fusilli personally.
>
> Holds more sauce.

Conchigli is my favourite for the same reason.
--
JL

"The Ranger" > wrote in message
...
>> On 28-Aug-2007, "cybercat" > wrote:
>>> "The Ranger" > wrote
>>> >
>>> > Nuh-uh! Macaroni salad is ONLY made with
>>> > mini-shells, relish, black olives, hard-boiled egg
>>> > and miracle whip!
>>> >
>>> Nooooo. Macaroni is ELBOW macaroni. When
>>> have you ever seen that name, "Macaroni" on any
>>> pasta product not shaped like elbows?
>
> I'm looking at the deli-made dish right now... "Macaroni Salad w/ Best
> Mayo" made with ditalini pasta. It's very bland but this one has red
> onions and pimento mixed in with dill relish so I thought I'd give it a
> try. I'll stick to using Miracle Whip but might swap out the sweet relish
> for dill.
>
I stand corrected. I LOVE macaroni salad with a little vinegar added to the
mayo and bits of shredded cheddar, some pimento. Celery for crunch. Good
stuff.



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"Joseph Littleshoes" > wrote
>
> Ever hear of the reorient "Spago"? which means string, spaghetti is just
> the diminutive form of spago.
>
>
Hey, that's a cool bit of information! I know a little Italian but sure did
not
know that. Little strings! Is Vermicelli "little worms?"



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cybercat said...

> Is Vermicelli "little worms?"


That would be orzo?

Andy

Bobo Bonobo® wrote:

> On Aug 28, 8:56 am, notbob > wrote:
>
>>On 2007-08-28, > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>What the hell is PASTA?
>>
>>LOL!.... I feel your pain. I get a kick out of the whole pasta
>>salad thing. If it's pasta and it's cold, it still macaroni salad in
>>my book and I don't like it.
>
>
> I'm with you on that! Sometimes the ladies at work eat that nasty
> stuff, and I have to empty the trash can in the employee lunchroom on
> Thursdays. I find even the smell of most of their vinegar/mayo/tuna/
> whatever other icky stuff that's on there pretty repulsive.
>
>>nb
>
>
> --Bryan
>
De gustibus non est disputandum.

A chilled pasta salad is one of my favourites, toss some small shells in
a vinaigrette with black olives, feta cheese, flaked smoked salmon,
thinly sliced raw mushrooms, artichoke hearts, green onions, crushed raw
garlic, black pepper.

So many things can be added or substituted cauliflower floret's are good
especially if they have been been in an lemon and oil marinade for a few
hours. Small dice of sweet red pepper, substitute diced cooked chicken
for the smoked salmon, different cheeses, shallots instead of green
onions, or sometimes i use a fine dice of raw red onion or an asian
product of fried red onions, garbonzoes etc.
--
JL

Abe wrote:

>>From the time I was born some 50 years ago, it was called spaghetti.
>
>>My mother made it, we got it in the school cafeteria. we ate it in
>>restaurants, and my relatives served it. It was always called
>>SPAGHETTI. All of a sudden it seems the name has changed to pasta.
>>What the hell is PASTA?
>>
>>I thought I was just over reacting and the word Pasta was just
>>something used by the ultra-wealthy because they always seem to use a
>>fancy name for something in order to raise the price, such as calling
>>coffee, java. Everyone knows that java costs two, three or more times
>>the price of a cup of coffee, and its the same darn thing.
>
>
> You are an idiot for raising a red herring on an issue you obviously
> you already know the answer to.
>
> Shame on the responders who spent time educating a herring tosser who
> posted a bullshit/non-issue just to get people talking about a
> non-issue. You should know better.


Wonderful weather were having, read any good books recently, how's your
parents, have you eaten?

Polite conversation does not require a degree in literature and some
people like talking about food as much as some people like to criticize
others conversational forms.
--
JL

Andy wrote:

> cybercat said...
>
>
>>Is Vermicelli "little worms?"

Yes it is, at least in its name. Ever see the mel brookes film "Young
Frankenstien"? there's a funny joke about that in the opening scenes.
>
>
>
> That would be orzo?
>
> Andy

orzo |ˈôrz�| noun a variety of pasta shaped like grains of barley or
rice. ORIGIN Italian, literally "barley.
--
JL

The Ranger wrote:

> Miracle Whip Macaroni Salad
>
> INGREDIENTS:
> 2 cups small shell pasta, cooked and drained
> 3/4 cup Miracle Whip
> 1 sweet onion, diced into small pieces
> 4 hard-boiled eggs, chopped
> 1 Tbs. sweet pickle relish
> 1/2 cup black olives*
>
> * I add a mix of Kalamata and Niçoise and rough-chop them but a
> small can of generic black olives works just as well.
>
> _PASTA_ salad opens the diner up to a world of differences!
>
> The Ranger

That is what I had for lunch today, only mine included a can of tuna.

Becca

Becca > wrote in message
...
> The Ranger wrote:
>
>> Miracle Whip Macaroni Salad
>>
>> INGREDIENTS:
>> 2 cups small shell pasta, cooked and drained
>> 3/4 cup Miracle Whip
>> 1 sweet onion, diced into small pieces
>> 4 hard-boiled eggs, chopped
>> 1 Tbs. sweet pickle relish
>> 1/2 cup black olives*
>>
>> * I add a mix of Kalamata and Niçoise and rough-chop them but a
>> small can of generic black olives works just as well.
>>
>> _PASTA_ salad opens the diner up to a world of differences!
>>
> That is what I had for lunch today, only mine included a can of
> tuna.

Mine was deli-bought with tasteless mayo. Blah. I liked the red
onions and dill relish that was substituted, though, so I plan on
adding those to a future batch. Interesting about the tuna; I
never think to add a protein to my macaroni salad. Go figure.

The Ranger

Bobo Bonobo® wrote:

> I'm with you on that! Sometimes the ladies at work eat that nasty
> stuff, and I have to empty the trash can in the employee lunchroom on
> Thursdays. I find even the smell of most of their vinegar/mayo/tuna/
> whatever other icky stuff that's on there pretty repulsive.
>> nb
>
> --Bryan

If you think that is bad, try emptying the trash in a Day Spa/Hair
Salon. The stuff they paint on people's nekkid bodies, looks like mud,
but smells much worse, plus the chemicals they use on people's hair.
Ugh, their trash smelled terrible.

Becca

In article >,
"Giusi" > wrote:

> "Melba's Jammin'" > ha scritto nel messaggio
> ...
> > I don't think it changes the flavor; it's a matter of which pasta
> > complements a particular kind of sauce so as to maximize one's enjoyment
> > of the sauce. The pasta is the carrier for the sauce and together they
> > can be wonderful.
> >
> > I believe the rule is the lighter the sauce, the lighter the pasta.
> > Angel hair doesn't get bolognese sauce (unless you're at my house), it
> > gets olive oil and fresh tomatoes and garlic and basil. Like that. :-)
> > --

> Sure it can!

All righty, then. And I do.

> Example: fresh egg pasta is not suitable for lots of sauces. Even the scale
> of the pasta vs the scale of what's with it can alter it. Tubular ones
> carry runny sauces inside. Creamy sauces need some corners to catch on to.
>
> Various qualities of pasta make a huge difference, too. Humongous companies
> extrude it through Teflon and dry it fast. It leaves a slicker surface and
> isn't nearly as good as pasta extruded through bronze and dried slower.
>
> Come to Rome and go to the Pasta Museum! It's not far from the Trevi
> Fountain.

Well, where were you last November when I was in Rome?!! <g>
--
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http://www.jamlady.eboard.com - Fair baking

> That's like running a kissing booth.
>
> For free.

Hmm. Kind of like being in Carnaval in Salvador, Brazil (where
kisses happen a LOT).

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On Aug 28, 12:37 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
> "Omelet" > wrote in message
>
> news >
> > In article >,
> > "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
>
> >> I have a serious question. In most schools, there is a problem with the
> >> water fountains. They're adjusted so hardly any water comes out, so you
> >> have
> >> to come into contact with the metal spout, which no sane person will do.
> >> Is
> >> there a secret society of janitors which requires this?

Actually, this janitor has often had to struggle with the maintenance
guys to get them to rectify that very problem. Oooh, speaking of
rectify, my lead player just bought himself a Mesa Boogie.
>
> > Why are you drinking out of water fountains?
> > I carry my own water bottles. <shudder>
>
> > And you accuse ME of being white trash? <shrugs>
>
> There is nothing wrong with drinking from water fountains which are working
> properly.

Some folks live in areas where the tap water is awful. Others live
where the tap water is good, but they either have a touch of the ol'
OCD, or they're just plain fools.

--Bryan

> wrote:
>From the time I was born some 50 years ago, it was called spaghetti.
>My mother made it, we got it in the school cafeteria. we ate it in
>restaurants, and my relatives served it. It was always called
>SPAGHETTI. All of a sudden it seems the name has changed to pasta.
>What the hell is PASTA?

Pasta is what Spaghetti was before American marketing
limited our choices to what was familiar.

>It was not until the other day when I went to the grocery store and
>asked this 20ish looking store employee where to find the spaghetti
>sauce. He looked at me and said "what's that"?

You are so full of it.

>I was shocked and
>felt like telling the idiot to find a different job if he dont know
>what the #$%^ spaghetti sauce is, but I did my best to remain calm and
>say "pasta sauce". He knew right where that was.......
>
>Has the word "spaghetti" been banned for some reason? Is there some
>sort of politically incorrect sexual connotation to that word that
>offends the religious right, or what? Or does it just cost more
>because they now call it pasta?

I think you were had. There's no way that person didn't
recognize "spaghetti". Just not possible.

--Blair

On Aug 28, 3:09 am, wrote:
> From the time I was born some 50 years ago, it was called spaghetti.
> My mother made it, we got it in the school cafeteria. we ate it in
> restaurants, and my relatives served it. It was always called
> SPAGHETTI. All of a sudden it seems the name has changed to pasta.
> What the hell is PASTA?

All of a sudden? What is this, 1988?

>
> I thought I was just over reacting and the word Pasta was just
> something used by the ultra-wealthy because they always seem to use a
> fancy name for something in order to raise the price, such as calling
> coffee, java. Everyone knows that java costs two, three or more times
> the price of a cup of coffee, and its the same darn thing.
>
> It was not until the other day when I went to the grocery store and
> asked this 20ish looking store employee where to find the spaghetti
> sauce. He looked at me and said "what's that"? I was shocked and
> felt like telling the idiot to find a different job if he dont know
> what the #$%^ spaghetti sauce is, but I did my best to remain calm and
> say "pasta sauce". He knew right where that was.......
>
> Has the word "spaghetti" been banned for some reason? Is there some
> sort of politically incorrect sexual connotation to that word that
> offends the religious right, or what? Or does it just cost more
> because they now call it pasta?

Wow. You really need to get on some medication, and get a damn
hobby.

http://www.judithgreenwood.com
"Andy" <q> ha scritto nel messaggio
...
> cybercat said...
>
>> Is Vermicelli "little worms?"
>
>
> That would be orzo?
>
> Andy

Orzo is barley and although I think it looks like rice, it seems early
Italians thought barley.

"Melba's Jammin'" > ha scritto nel messaggio
...
> In article >,
> "Giusi" > wrote:
>
>> "Melba's Jammin'" > ha scritto nel messaggio
>> ...
>> > I don't think it changes the flavor; it's a matter of which pasta
>> > complements a particular kind of sauce so as to maximize one's
>> > enjoyment
>> > of the sauce.
>
>> Sure it can!
>
> All righty, then. And I do.
>
>> Example: fresh egg pasta is not suitable for lots of sauces. Even the
>> scale
>> of the pasta vs the scale of what's with it can alter it. Tubular ones
>> carry runny sauces inside. Creamy sauces need some corners to catch on
>> to.

>>
>> Come to Rome and go to the Pasta Museum! It's not far from the Trevi
>> Fountain.
>
> Well, where were you last November when I was in Rome?!! <g>
> --
> -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
> http://www.jamlady.eboard.com - Fair baking

In Umbria, as always, or almost always. I often do meet people I meet on my
blog. It's fun and something I've been doing for many years. I once went
to Oslo for a long weekend at the invitation of an electronic acquaintance.
That was, however, when I was in a more lucrative career than cooking.

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cybercat MEOWED:

> "Robert L Bass" > wrote
>
> > I like to cook different types with various recipes. Once I try one out
> > and it works as written I will usually start experimenting.
>
> I love spiral pasta (rotini) for cheesy, meaty, garlicky things, because
> each individual noodle catches good stuff.


You should use it for tampons, then, dear...

;-D

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Greg

Joseph Littleshoes wrote:

> wrote:
> > From the time I was born some 50 years ago, it was called spaghetti.
> > My mother made it, we got it in the school cafeteria. we ate it in
> > restaurants, and my relatives served it. It was always called
> > SPAGHETTI. All of a sudden it seems the name has changed to pasta.
> > What the hell is PASTA?
>
> > I thought I was just over reacting and the word Pasta was just
> > something used by the ultra-wealthy because they always seem to use a
> > fancy name for something in order to raise the price, such as calling
> > coffee, java. Everyone knows that java costs two, three or more times
> > the price of a cup of coffee, and its the same darn thing.
>
> > It was not until the other day when I went to the grocery store and
> > asked this 20ish looking store employee where to find the spaghetti
> > sauce. He looked at me and said "what's that"? I was shocked and
> > felt like telling the idiot to find a different job if he dont know
> > what the #$%^ spaghetti sauce is, but I did my best to remain calm and
> > say "pasta sauce". He knew right where that was.......
>
> > Has the word "spaghetti" been banned for some reason? Is there some
> > sort of politically incorrect sexual connotation to that word that
> > offends the religious right, or what? Or does it just cost more
> > because they now call it pasta?
>
> > JB
>
> Ever hear of the reorient "Spago"? which means string, spaghetti is just
> the diminutive form of spago.
>
> Your experience sounds sort of like the one i had at a whole foods store
> when i asked where they kept the coke and pepsi and i was informed they
> did not sell "such things."
>
> It is a form of snobbery, nothing else.


Gotta love the Whole Foods "ethos"...a new one opened up in my 'hood
and when I asked for a plastic bag the blissninnie checkout droid said
kiddingly, "Are you SURE...!!!???". I said, "Oh, why should I geel
guilty about a plastic bag when most every vehicle in your lot is a
monster SUV driven by ONE yuppie person...". Sheesh...

Won't be going to WH very much, lol...


--
Best
Greg

Blair P. Houghton wrote:

> Pasta is what Spaghetti was before American marketing
> limited our choices to what was familiar.



"Wednesday Is Prince Spaghetti Day"...

IIRC some of this started during WWII when meat was rationed,
spaghetti was promoted as a "meatless" alternative...along with
macaroni.

I collect old magazines and there are ads in say, WWII era _Life_
magazines that push this. To a lot of middle Americans, spaghetti
(let alone pasta) was something a little bit exotic, there was a big
push by marketers to make it "acceptable". In movies of the day,
Italian restaurants were often featured as something slightly exotic
and urbane, replete with the checked tablecloths, spaghetti and meat
balls, and the straw chianti bottle on the table...

I have _Life_, etc. mags from the mid - 50's when modern
"convenience" - type foods became the rage. There are these HUGE - ass
color double - page spreads by Chef Boyardee and the like promoting
"Ravioli -- now in a CAN...!!!". It's presented like some kind of
space age miracle...pretty interesting, that age of Madison Avenue
overkill.


;-)


--
Best
Greg

On Aug 29, 5:40 am, Gregory Morrow >
wrote:
> cybercat MEOWED:
>
> > "Robert L Bass" > wrote
>
> > > I like to cook different types with various recipes. Once I try one out
> > > and it works as written I will usually start experimenting.
>
> > I love spiral pasta (rotini) for cheesy, meaty, garlicky things, because
> > each individual noodle catches good stuff.
>
> You should use it for tampons, then, dear...

You have some interesting sexual interests. "Good stuff?" Hmmm?
>
> ;-D
>
> --
> Best
> Greg

--Bryan

On Aug 29, 5:47 am, Gregory Morrow >
wrote:
> Joseph Littleshoes wrote:
> > wrote:
> > > From the time I was born some 50 years ago, it was called spaghetti.
> > > My mother made it, we got it in the school cafeteria. we ate it in
> > > restaurants, and my relatives served it. It was always called
> > > SPAGHETTI. All of a sudden it seems the name has changed to pasta.
> > > What the hell is PASTA?
>
> > > I thought I was just over reacting and the word Pasta was just
> > > something used by the ultra-wealthy because they always seem to use a
> > > fancy name for something in order to raise the price, such as calling
> > > coffee, java. Everyone knows that java costs two, three or more times
> > > the price of a cup of coffee, and its the same darn thing.
>
> > > It was not until the other day when I went to the grocery store and
> > > asked this 20ish looking store employee where to find the spaghetti
> > > sauce. He looked at me and said "what's that"? I was shocked and
> > > felt like telling the idiot to find a different job if he dont know
> > > what the #$%^ spaghetti sauce is, but I did my best to remain calm and
> > > say "pasta sauce". He knew right where that was.......
>
> > > Has the word "spaghetti" been banned for some reason? Is there some
> > > sort of politically incorrect sexual connotation to that word that
> > > offends the religious right, or what? Or does it just cost more
> > > because they now call it pasta?
>
> > > JB
>
> > Ever hear of the reorient "Spago"? which means string, spaghetti is just
> > the diminutive form of spago.
>
> > Your experience sounds sort of like the one i had at a whole foods store
> > when i asked where they kept the coke and pepsi and i was informed they
> > did not sell "such things."
>
> > It is a form of snobbery, nothing else.
>
> Gotta love the Whole Foods "ethos"...a new one opened up in my 'hood
> and when I asked for a plastic bag the blissninnie checkout droid said
> kiddingly, "Are you SURE...!!!???". I said, "Oh, why should I geel
> guilty about a plastic bag when most every vehicle in your lot is a
> monster SUV driven by ONE yuppie person...". Sheesh...

That was a great "Snappy Answer."
>
> Won't be going to WH very much, lol...

They are very expensive.
>
> --
> Best
> Greg

--Bryan

On 2007-08-29, Blair P Houghton > wrote:

> I think you were had. There's no way that person didn't
> recognize "spaghetti". Just not possible.

You must not interact much with today's astonishingly ignorant kids. I
had a garage sale and a kid in his late teens or early 20s (gen y?)
pulled up in his car and asked me if I had any recording equipment. I
was standing right next to a large stereo reel-to-reel tape recorder.
I was speechless, so just turned a half-way around and pointed at the
recorder. He said, "What's that?" This appears to be the norm rather
then the exception with the latest generation that seems completely
oblivious to anything beyond the sphere of an ipod or cell phone.

nb

notbob wrote:
> On 2007-08-29, Blair P Houghton > wrote:
>
>> I think you were had. There's no way that person didn't
>> recognize "spaghetti". Just not possible.
>
> You must not interact much with today's astonishingly ignorant kids. I
> had a garage sale and a kid in his late teens or early 20s (gen y?)
> pulled up in his car and asked me if I had any recording equipment. I
> was standing right next to a large stereo reel-to-reel tape recorder.
> I was speechless, so just turned a half-way around and pointed at the
> recorder. He said, "What's that?" This appears to be the norm rather
> then the exception with the latest generation that seems completely
> oblivious to anything beyond the sphere of an ipod or cell phone.

In our supermarket, I am often asked by the (young) check out operator the
name of simple vegetables. Peppers, leeks and broccoli are just some!

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> notbob wrote:
>> On 2007-08-29, Blair P Houghton > wrote:
>>
>>> I think you were had. There's no way that person didn't
>>> recognize "spaghetti". Just not possible.
>>
>> You must not interact much with today's astonishingly ignorant kids. I
>> had a garage sale and a kid in his late teens or early 20s (gen y?)
>> pulled up in his car and asked me if I had any recording equipment. I
>> was standing right next to a large stereo reel-to-reel tape recorder.
>> I was speechless, so just turned a half-way around and pointed at the
>> recorder. He said, "What's that?" This appears to be the norm rather
>> then the exception with the latest generation that seems completely
>> oblivious to anything beyond the sphere of an ipod or cell phone.
>
> In our supermarket, I am often asked by the (young) check out operator the
> name of simple vegetables. Peppers, leeks and broccoli are just some!
There, too, heh?
Same here -- all the time. Except in the Asian markets -- the check-out
women never skip a beat.
Dee Dee

Ophelia wrote:

> In our supermarket, I am often asked by the (young) check out operator the
> name of simple vegetables. Peppers, leeks and broccoli are just some!
>
Jaime Oliver did that same test for school kids when he kicked off his
program to improve school food. Sad to say way too many couldn't
identify even the most common of vegetables.

"notbob" > wrote in message
. ..
> On 2007-08-29, Blair P Houghton > wrote:
>
>> I think you were had. There's no way that person didn't
>> recognize "spaghetti". Just not possible.
>
> You must not interact much with today's astonishingly ignorant kids. I
> had a garage sale and a kid in his late teens or early 20s (gen y?)
> pulled up in his car and asked me if I had any recording equipment. I
> was standing right next to a large stereo reel-to-reel tape recorder.
> I was speechless, so just turned a half-way around and pointed at the
> recorder. He said, "What's that?" This appears to be the norm rather
> then the exception with the latest generation that seems completely
> oblivious to anything beyond the sphere of an ipod or cell phone.
>
> nb

Cut the kid some slack they haven't made a reel to reel recorder since
before he was probably born. LOL Actually the last one I bought was back in
about 1980 and they where hard to find then.

Joe Cilinceon

In article .com>,
says...
> Blair P. Houghton wrote:
>
> > Pasta is what Spaghetti was before American marketing
> > limited our choices to what was familiar.
>
>
>
> "Wednesday Is Prince Spaghetti Day"...
>
> IIRC some of this started during WWII when meat was rationed,
> spaghetti was promoted as a "meatless" alternative...along with
> macaroni.
>
> I collect old magazines and there are ads in say, WWII era _Life_
> magazines that push this. To a lot of middle Americans, spaghetti
> (let alone pasta) was something a little bit exotic, there was a big
> push by marketers to make it "acceptable". In movies of the day,
> Italian restaurants were often featured as something slightly exotic
> and urbane, replete with the checked tablecloths, spaghetti and meat
> balls, and the straw chianti bottle on the table...
>
> I have _Life_, etc. mags from the mid - 50's when modern
> "convenience" - type foods became the rage. There are these HUGE - ass
> color double - page spreads by Chef Boyardee and the like promoting
> "Ravioli -- now in a CAN...!!!". It's presented like some kind of
> space age miracle...pretty interesting, that age of Madison Avenue
> overkill.

I hope you have a scanner because those sound like something I'd like to
see. I love seeing how things were back then since I missed all of it.
I'm a child of the 70's and 80's.

In article >, says...
> "notbob" > wrote in message
> . ..
> > On 2007-08-29, Blair P Houghton > wrote:
> >
> >> I think you were had. There's no way that person didn't
> >> recognize "spaghetti". Just not possible.
> >
> > You must not interact much with today's astonishingly ignorant kids. I
> > had a garage sale and a kid in his late teens or early 20s (gen y?)
> > pulled up in his car and asked me if I had any recording equipment. I
> > was standing right next to a large stereo reel-to-reel tape recorder.
> > I was speechless, so just turned a half-way around and pointed at the
> > recorder. He said, "What's that?" This appears to be the norm rather
> > then the exception with the latest generation that seems completely
> > oblivious to anything beyond the sphere of an ipod or cell phone.
> >
> > nb
>
> Cut the kid some slack they haven't made a reel to reel recorder since
> before he was probably born. LOL Actually the last one I bought was back in
> about 1980 and they where hard to find then.
>
> Joe Cilinceon
>
>
>

Cassette tapes are next. Honestly, when is the last time you saw a
casette player/recorder.

T wrote:

> In article >, says...
> > "notbob" > wrote in message

> > Cut the kid some slack they haven't made a reel to reel recorder
> > since before he was probably born. LOL Actually the last one I
> > bought was back in about 1980 and they where hard to find then.
> >
> > Joe Cilinceon
> >
> >
> >
>
> Cassette tapes are next. Honestly, when is the last time you saw a
> casette player/recorder.

Player? Just about every day when I get in the Bronco.



Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

"Joe Cilinceon" > wrote in message
...
> "notbob" > wrote in message
> . ..
>> On 2007-08-29, Blair P Houghton > wrote:
>>
>>> I think you were had. There's no way that person didn't
>>> recognize "spaghetti". Just not possible.
>>
>> You must not interact much with today's astonishingly ignorant kids. I
>> had a garage sale and a kid in his late teens or early 20s (gen y?)
>> pulled up in his car and asked me if I had any recording equipment. I
>> was standing right next to a large stereo reel-to-reel tape recorder.
>> I was speechless, so just turned a half-way around and pointed at the
>> recorder. He said, "What's that?" This appears to be the norm rather
>> then the exception with the latest generation that seems completely
>> oblivious to anything beyond the sphere of an ipod or cell phone.
>>
>> nb
>
> Cut the kid some slack they haven't made a reel to reel recorder since
> before he was probably born. LOL Actually the last one I bought was back
> in about 1980 and they where hard to find then.
>
> Joe Cilinceon
I try to put myself in their place - as I remember an old thick record that
we used to play of Caruso singing something famous. I was 11, brought up in
the hicks to be a hick and 'they' were astounded that I didn't know who he
was.

Perhaps people are just as deprived today in some parts as they were a
half-century ago - both schools and home.
Dee Dee

Dee Dee said...

>
> "Joe Cilinceon" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "notbob" > wrote in message
>> . ..
>>> On 2007-08-29, Blair P Houghton > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think you were had. There's no way that person didn't
>>>> recognize "spaghetti". Just not possible.
>>>
>>> You must not interact much with today's astonishingly ignorant kids. I
>>> had a garage sale and a kid in his late teens or early 20s (gen y?)
>>> pulled up in his car and asked me if I had any recording equipment. I
>>> was standing right next to a large stereo reel-to-reel tape recorder.
>>> I was speechless, so just turned a half-way around and pointed at the
>>> recorder. He said, "What's that?" This appears to be the norm rather
>>> then the exception with the latest generation that seems completely
>>> oblivious to anything beyond the sphere of an ipod or cell phone.
>>>
>>> nb
>>
>> Cut the kid some slack they haven't made a reel to reel recorder since
>> before he was probably born. LOL Actually the last one I bought was
>> back in about 1980 and they where hard to find then.
>>
>> Joe Cilinceon
> I try to put myself in their place - as I remember an old thick record
> that we used to play of Caruso singing something famous. I was 11,
> brought up in the hicks to be a hick and 'they' were astounded that I
> didn't know who he was.
>
> Perhaps people are just as deprived today in some parts as they were a
> half-century ago - both schools and home.
> Dee Dee


Our family was somehow gifted with an OLD crank-wind record player. The
stylus amounted to nothing more than little nails.

The records were heavy double sided vinyl with a metal plate in the middle,
probably 10" diameter.

The unit was approximately 2'w x 2'd x 4' tall.

It spun moldy-oldies at variable speeds, iirc, up to 78 rpms.

Andy