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Vote now! (or not) Thanks go to aux34 for this one. -- Cheers Chatty Cathy Garlic: the element without which life as we know it would be impossible |
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ChattyCathy said...
> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/ > > Vote now! (or not) > > Thanks go to aux34 for this one. Holy Cow. Well I'll be dipped in Clam Chowder. I'll take that TFH #2 Only took all summer!!! Andy |
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In article >, Andy <q> wrote:
> ChattyCathy said... > > > http://www.recfoodcooking.com/ > > > > Vote now! (or not) > > > > Thanks go to aux34 for this one. > > > Holy Cow. Well I'll be dipped in Clam Chowder. I'll take that TFH #2 > > Only took all summer!!! > > Andy <lol> I was on line again and STILL missed it! I was number 6 <grumble> -- Peace, Om Remove _ to validate e-mails. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson |
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![]() MCINL: I buy them deveined. We're so far from the ocean here that all shrimp are frozen when they reach Michigan. I'd rather defrost them myself and know how long they've been sitting around defrosted than buy them already defrosted and not know. I can get them IQF, deveined, with or without shells. The last batch I got without shells, because I suddenly took a dislike to Asian- produced seafood, and could only get the Gulf of Mexico shrimp peeled. The Gulf waters might be no cleaner than Asian waters, but at least it's AMERICAN filth, by gum. Cindy Hamilton |
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ChattyCathy wrote on Fri, 31 Aug 2007 21:10:49 +0200:
C> Vote now! (or not) C> Thanks go to aux34 for this one. The "vein" not that! It's really part of the gut! James Silverton Potomac, Maryland E-mail, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not |
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Deveining fresh, raw prawns made easy!
Once you've shelled and removed the prawn head:- Insert a sturdy toothpick or skewer through the middle of the back of the prawn/shrimp (at right angles to the body) about 3-5mm beneath the surface. Gently lift the toothpick upwards and the whole vein comes out smoothly and easily. LadyJane "Never trust a skinny cook!" |
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![]() "ChattyCathy" > wrote in message ... > http://www.recfoodcooking.com/ > > Vote now! (or not) MCINL: My frozen raw shrimp come in the shell but deveined. Back in the day, I deveined if the veins were nasty. I once knew a guy who figured the vein would disintegrate in the cooking, so all he did was run a knife down the back so guests would think they had been deveined. Felice |
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![]() "Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message ups.com... > > MCINL: I buy them deveined. > > We're so far from the ocean here that all shrimp are frozen when they > reach Michigan. I'd rather defrost them myself and know how long > they've been sitting around defrosted than buy them already defrosted > and not know. > > I can get them IQF, deveined, with or without shells. The last batch > I > got without shells, because I suddenly took a dislike to Asian- > produced > seafood, and could only get the Gulf of Mexico shrimp peeled. > > The Gulf waters might be no cleaner than Asian waters, but at least > it's AMERICAN filth, by gum. > > Cindy Hamilton Three Cheers! Dee Dee, who just threw out all of her rock candy. |
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In article >,
Steve Wertz > wrote: > On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 21:10:49 +0200, ChattyCathy wrote: > > > http://www.recfoodcooking.com/ > > > > Vote now! (or not) > > > > Thanks go to aux34 for this one. > > Whohoo- I'm first! > > -sw You were awake and posting. ;-) Congrats! -- Peace, Om Remove _ to validate e-mails. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson |
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ChattyCathy > wrote:
>http://www.recfoodcooking.com/ > >Vote now! (or not) > >Thanks go to aux34 for this one. Anyone who doesn't devein shrimp must also not peel bananas. Sure, it's edible, but I'd rather taste shrimp than poop. --Blair |
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Felice Friese > wrote:
>MCINL: My frozen raw shrimp come in the shell but deveined. Back in the day, >I deveined if the veins were nasty. I once knew a guy who figured the vein >would disintegrate in the cooking, so all he did was run a knife down the >back so guests would think they had been deveined. He'd be getting mine back for deveining. --Blair |
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In article >,
Blair P. Houghton > wrote: > ChattyCathy > wrote: > >http://www.recfoodcooking.com/ > > > >Vote now! (or not) > > > >Thanks go to aux34 for this one. > > Anyone who doesn't devein shrimp must also not > peel bananas. > > Sure, it's edible, but I'd rather taste shrimp > than poop. > > --Blair I've had shrimp that was not deveined and it did not affect the taste. It affected the texture. I do SO hate crunching down on Sand!!! :-( I do often purchase it already done, but I've deveined it on numerous occasions myself. It's not exactly hard to do. ;-) Just a bit tedious. -- Peace, Om Remove _ to validate e-mails. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson |
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In article >,
Blair P. Houghton > wrote: > Felice Friese > wrote: > >MCINL: My frozen raw shrimp come in the shell but deveined. Back in the day, > >I deveined if the veins were nasty. I once knew a guy who figured the vein > >would disintegrate in the cooking, so all he did was run a knife down the > >back so guests would think they had been deveined. > > He'd be getting mine back for deveining. > > --Blair <shrugs> I'd just do it myself at the table if I was a house guest. And make a point of it so he'd notice. <G> -- Peace, Om Remove _ to validate e-mails. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson |
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In article >,
Steve Wertz > wrote: > On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 21:10:49 +0200, ChattyCathy wrote: > > > http://www.recfoodcooking.com/ > > > > Vote now! (or not) > > > > Thanks go to aux34 for this one. > > Whohoo- I'm first! > > -sw Congratulations, Steve. You deserve it. BTW, where were you last Sunday. My wife and I cruised the Hot Sauce festival looking for a guy in handcuffs pinned to the ground by cops. Saw nothing like it. So we started yelling "Steve Wertz, Steve Wertz! Here's your hat!" The crowd fell silent and glared at us, the band(s) stopped playing, and a mob chased us from the park. My god, Mr. Wertz, what did you do to provoke such a reaction? Hope you enjoy your prize, Dave W. |
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In article >,
Steve Wertz > wrote: > On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 13:20:18 -0700, Cindy Hamilton wrote: > > > The Gulf waters might be no cleaner than Asian waters, but at least > > it's AMERICAN filth, by gum. > > Pop Quiz: "Gulf of ____________". > > :-) > > -sw Indeed... ;-) I prefer not to swim when I am there... -- Peace, Om Remove _ to validate e-mails. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson |
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Steve Wertz > wrote: > On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 18:55:02 -0400, Felice Friese wrote: > > > MCINL: My frozen raw shrimp come in the shell but deveined. Back in the > > day, > > I deveined if the veins were nasty. I once knew a guy who figured the vein > > would disintegrate in the cooking, so all he did was run a knife down the > > back so guests would think they had been deveined. > > These "EasyPeel(tm)" shrimp are one of the best inventions of > this decade. It seems like all the headless shrimp in these > parts are done this way. > > -sw I agree! And they are surprisingly well priced. -- Peace, Om Remove _ to validate e-mails. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson |
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Steve Wertz > wrote: > On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 10:30:23 -0500, Dave W wrote: > > > BTW, where were you last Sunday. My wife and I cruised the Hot Sauce > > festival looking for a guy in handcuffs pinned to the ground by cops. > > Saw nothing like it. > > It was too freaking hot to start shit with the cops. The heat > made me docile. I was worshiping this most of the time: > > http://i7.tinypic.com/4yuph8z.jpg Heh! I heard you bought that for a lawn ornament. > > > So we started yelling "Steve Wertz, Steve Wertz! Here's your hat!" > > > > The crowd fell silent and glared at us, the band(s) stopped playing, and > > a mob chased us from the park. My god, Mr. Wertz, what did you do to > > provoke such a reaction? > > Yeah, I'm kinda infamous here in Austin. The same thing happened > to me at the dentist the other day when the receptionist called > out my name. I go by a different name in public from now on. Such as? > > BTW: I didn't win the TFH this time eitehr. > > -sw Oops. -- Peace, Om Remove _ to validate e-mails. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson |
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On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 05:19:42 GMT, Blair P. Houghton > wrote:
>ChattyCathy > wrote: >>http://www.recfoodcooking.com/ >> >>Vote now! (or not) >> >>Thanks go to aux34 for this one. > >Anyone who doesn't devein shrimp must also not >peel bananas. > >Sure, it's edible, but I'd rather taste shrimp >than poop. > I'd rather not chew sand. -- Ham and eggs. A day's work for the chicken, a lifetime commitment for the pig. |
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In article >, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 05:19:42 GMT, Blair P. Houghton > wrote: > > >ChattyCathy > wrote: > >>http://www.recfoodcooking.com/ > >> > >>Vote now! (or not) > >> > >>Thanks go to aux34 for this one. > > > >Anyone who doesn't devein shrimp must also not > >peel bananas. > > > >Sure, it's edible, but I'd rather taste shrimp > >than poop. > > > > I'd rather not chew sand. I think I said much the same thing... A good reason to purge live clams if you can. -- Peace, Om Remove _ to validate e-mails. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson |
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![]() "Omelet" > wrote in message news ![]() > > I've had shrimp that was not deveined and it did not affect the taste. > > It affected the texture. > > I do SO hate crunching down on Sand!!! :-( > > I do often purchase it already done, but I've deveined it on numerous > occasions myself. > > It's not exactly hard to do. ;-) Just a bit tedious. > -- > Peace, Om I'm beginning to sound like a broken record on this subject. What bothers me is seeing the vein on the bottom after the top has been deveined. If one wants to get it off, as well, hey you've bot butterflied shrimp. Dee Dee |
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Steve Wertz wrote:
> BTW: I didn't win the TFH this time eitehr. > > -sw No TFH for me, either. Have you started to eyeball those disposable tinfoil pans in the supermarket? That may be your only outlet. Becca |
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"Dee Dee" > wrote: > "Omelet" > wrote in message > news ![]() > > > > I've had shrimp that was not deveined and it did not affect the taste. > > > > It affected the texture. > > > > I do SO hate crunching down on Sand!!! :-( > > > > I do often purchase it already done, but I've deveined it on numerous > > occasions myself. > > > > It's not exactly hard to do. ;-) Just a bit tedious. > > -- > > Peace, Om > > I'm beginning to sound like a broken record on this subject. > What bothers me is seeing the vein on the bottom after the top has been > deveined. If one wants to get it off, as well, hey you've bot butterflied > shrimp. > Dee Dee The vein on the bottom is not an intestine. I've never bothered with it. -- Peace, Om Remove _ to validate e-mails. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson |
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![]() "Omelet" > wrote in message news ![]() >> >> I'm beginning to sound like a broken record on this subject. >> What bothers me is seeing the vein on the bottom after the top has been >> deveined. If one wants to get it off, as well, hey you've bot >> butterflied >> shrimp. >> Dee Dee > > The vein on the bottom is not an intestine. > I've never bothered with it. > -- > Peace, Om > I believe you've told me that before and I've tried to figure out what it is by googling it. I probably found out, but have forgotten. I guess I can't get it out of my mind. I don't want to google again, I just want to talk about it ;-)) When we were doing the counter-tops and didn't have a kitchen, I used a cup of noodles that had some dried shrimp in them. The veins were so prominent -- Disgusting! Yes, I picked them out. Cuppa noodles. Dee Dee |
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![]() "Dee Dee" > wrote > When we were doing the counter-tops and didn't have a kitchen, I used a > cup of noodles that had some dried shrimp in them. The veins were so > prominent -- Disgusting! Yes, I picked them out. Ugh. The house salad at a pub style restaurant I used to go to often consisted of iceberg lettuce with tiny cold shrimp and hard boiled egg on top. People just loved it. I couldn't get past the 'vein' they never bothered removing. I know they were just little salad shrimp, but I won't eat that part. Yuck. nancy |
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On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 14:42:09 -0500, Omelet >
wrote: >In article >, sf wrote: > >> >> I'd rather not chew sand. > >I think I said much the same thing... > You did, but I read your post after I said it. >A good reason to purge live clams if you can. I've never needed to do that.... guess what I buy are farm raised, not wild. ![]() -- Ham and eggs. A day's work for the chicken, a lifetime commitment for the pig. |
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"Dee Dee" > wrote: > "Omelet" > wrote in message > news ![]() > >> > >> I'm beginning to sound like a broken record on this subject. > >> What bothers me is seeing the vein on the bottom after the top has been > >> deveined. If one wants to get it off, as well, hey you've bot > >> butterflied > >> shrimp. > >> Dee Dee > > > > The vein on the bottom is not an intestine. > > I've never bothered with it. > > -- > > Peace, Om > > > > I believe you've told me that before and I've tried to figure out what it is > by googling it. I probably found out, but have forgotten. > I guess I can't get it out of my mind. I don't want to google again, I just > want to talk about it ;-)) > > When we were doing the counter-tops and didn't have a kitchen, I used a cup > of noodles that had some dried shrimp in them. The veins were so > prominent -- Disgusting! Yes, I picked them out. Cuppa noodles. > Dee Dee I think they are a blood vessle. <googles> Ok, from he http://www.ralphrobertmoore.com/shrimp.html "Once your shrimp are deshelled, it's time to devein. A shrimp has two veins: the sand vein running along the hump of its back, the more important of the two veins to remove, and the blood vein running up under its inward crescent." -- Peace, Om Remove _ to validate e-mails. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson |
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In article >, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 14:42:09 -0500, Omelet > > wrote: > > >In article >, sf wrote: > > > >> > >> I'd rather not chew sand. > > > >I think I said much the same thing... > > > You did, but I read your post after I said it. > > >A good reason to purge live clams if you can. > > I've never needed to do that.... guess what I buy are farm raised, not > wild. ![]() We used to go clamming when we lived in California. We got razor clams and mom and dad would put them in the refrigerator and sea water and leave them for a day. There would be quite a bit of sand in the bottom of the container when they were done. -- Peace, Om Remove _ to validate e-mails. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson |
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"Omelet" > wrote in message
news ![]() > > I think they are a blood vessel. > > <googles> > > Ok, from he > > http://www.ralphrobertmoore.com/shrimp.html > > "Once your shrimp are deshelled, it's time to devein. A shrimp has two > veins: the sand vein running along the hump of its back, the more > important of the two veins to remove, and the blood vein running up > under its inward crescent." > -- > Peace, Om > > Remove _ to validate e-mails. > > "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack > Nicholson I am anal about deveining. My shrimp are almost butterflied when I get done with them. I can't imagine what it's like for those people who bite the heads of their crustaceans. Yuck! Mitch |
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Steve Wertz > wrote: <snip> > > BTW: I didn't win the TFH this time eitehr. > > -sw Life is not fair. Here, take mine. Dave W. Attach virtual tin foil top hat here. |
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![]() "Omelet" > wrote in message news ![]() > In article >, > "Dee Dee" > wrote: > >> "Omelet" > wrote in message >> news ![]() >> >> >> >> I'm beginning to sound like a broken record on this subject. >> >> What bothers me is seeing the vein on the bottom after the top has >> >> been >> >> deveined. If one wants to get it off, as well, hey you've bot >> >> butterflied >> >> shrimp. >> >> Dee Dee >> > >> > The vein on the bottom is not an intestine. >> > I've never bothered with it. >> > -- >> > Peace, Om >> > >> >> I believe you've told me that before and I've tried to figure out what it >> is >> by googling it. I probably found out, but have forgotten. >> I guess I can't get it out of my mind. I don't want to google again, I >> just >> want to talk about it ;-)) >> >> When we were doing the counter-tops and didn't have a kitchen, I used a >> cup >> of noodles that had some dried shrimp in them. The veins were so >> prominent -- Disgusting! Yes, I picked them out. Cuppa noodles. >> Dee Dee > > I think they are a blood vessle. > > <googles> > > Ok, from he > > http://www.ralphrobertmoore.com/shrimp.html > > "Once your shrimp are deshelled, it's time to devein. A shrimp has two > veins: the sand vein running along the hump of its back, the more > important of the two veins to remove, and the blood vein running up > under its inward crescent." > -- > Peace, Om OK, Om, Thanks. I've saved this information. But gosh, blood veins -- ewwwhh, also. :-) Dee Dee |
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"Dee Dee" > wrote: > > I think they are a blood vessle. > > > > <googles> > > > > Ok, from he > > > > http://www.ralphrobertmoore.com/shrimp.html > > > > "Once your shrimp are deshelled, it's time to devein. A shrimp has two > > veins: the sand vein running along the hump of its back, the more > > important of the two veins to remove, and the blood vein running up > > under its inward crescent." > > -- > > Peace, Om > > OK, Om, Thanks. I've saved this information. But gosh, blood veins -- > ewwwhh, also. :-) > Dee Dee <lol> I see them occasionally in roasts, but it's rare. -- Peace, Om Remove _ to validate e-mails. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson |
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![]() >> OK, Om, Thanks. I've saved this information. But gosh, blood veins -- >> ewwwhh, also. :-) >> Dee Dee > > <lol> I see them occasionally in roasts, but it's rare. > -- > Peace, Om > I now am using red meat occasionally, now I'll have something else to look forward to -- you she devil ;-) Dee Dee |
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"Dee Dee" > wrote: > >> OK, Om, Thanks. I've saved this information. But gosh, blood veins -- > >> ewwwhh, also. :-) > >> Dee Dee > > > > <lol> I see them occasionally in roasts, but it's rare. > > -- > > Peace, Om > > > > I now am using red meat occasionally, now I'll have something else to look > forward to -- > you she devil ;-) > Dee Dee I'm sorry!!! :-( -- Peace, Om Remove _ to validate e-mails. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson |
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Omelet > wrote:
>In article >, > Blair P. Houghton > wrote: > >> Felice Friese > wrote: >> >MCINL: My frozen raw shrimp come in the shell but deveined. Back in the day, >> >I deveined if the veins were nasty. I once knew a guy who figured the vein >> >would disintegrate in the cooking, so all he did was run a knife down the >> >back so guests would think they had been deveined. >> >> He'd be getting mine back for deveining. > ><shrugs> I'd just do it myself at the table if I was a house guest. > >And make a point of it so he'd notice. <G> That's an idea. It helps to have an absorbent surface on which to deposit the veins, so they'll stick and come away from the implement you're using to remove them from the shrimp. The tablecloth, for instance. --Blair |
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Omelet > wrote:
> Blair P. Houghton > wrote: >> Anyone who doesn't devein shrimp must also not >> peel bananas. >> >> Sure, it's edible, but I'd rather taste shrimp >> than poop. > >I've had shrimp that was not deveined and it did not affect the taste. > >It affected the texture. > >I do SO hate crunching down on Sand!!! :-( Haha. Reread my post. Sand. Heh. >I do often purchase it already done, but I've deveined it on numerous >occasions myself. >It's not exactly hard to do. ;-) Just a bit tedious. The only time not to bother is if you know the shrimp are all from the same school and the first few are totally clean. But if one is dirty, then they're all likely to be dirty, having fed on the same cloud of plankton just before capture. --Blair |
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Blair P. Houghton > wrote: > Omelet > wrote: > >In article >, > > Blair P. Houghton > wrote: > > > >> Felice Friese > wrote: > >> >MCINL: My frozen raw shrimp come in the shell but deveined. Back in the > >> >day, > >> >I deveined if the veins were nasty. I once knew a guy who figured the > >> >vein > >> >would disintegrate in the cooking, so all he did was run a knife down the > >> >back so guests would think they had been deveined. > >> > >> He'd be getting mine back for deveining. > > > ><shrugs> I'd just do it myself at the table if I was a house guest. > > > >And make a point of it so he'd notice. <G> > > That's an idea. > > It helps to have an absorbent surface on which to deposit > the veins, so they'll stick and come away from the implement > you're using to remove them from the shrimp. > > The tablecloth, for instance. > > --Blair <lol> One would hope the host provides napkins, but that would make a statement! -- Peace, Om Remove _ to validate e-mails. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson |
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Blair P. Houghton > wrote: > Omelet > wrote: > > Blair P. Houghton > wrote: > >> Anyone who doesn't devein shrimp must also not > >> peel bananas. > >> > >> Sure, it's edible, but I'd rather taste shrimp > >> than poop. > > > >I've had shrimp that was not deveined and it did not affect the taste. > > > >It affected the texture. > > > >I do SO hate crunching down on Sand!!! :-( > > Haha. > > Reread my post. > > Sand. Heh. > > >I do often purchase it already done, but I've deveined it on numerous > >occasions myself. > >It's not exactly hard to do. ;-) Just a bit tedious. > > The only time not to bother is if you know the shrimp > are all from the same school and the first few are totally > clean. But if one is dirty, then they're all likely to > be dirty, having fed on the same cloud of plankton just > before capture. > > --Blair Dirty shrimp veins are rather visible. It's not like you cannot see them in a raw shrimp. -- Peace, Om Remove _ to validate e-mails. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson |
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In article >, "Mitch Scherer" >
wrote: > "Omelet" > wrote in message > news ![]() > > > > I think they are a blood vessel. > > > > <googles> > > > > Ok, from he > > > > http://www.ralphrobertmoore.com/shrimp.html > > > > "Once your shrimp are deshelled, it's time to devein. A shrimp has two > > veins: the sand vein running along the hump of its back, the more > > important of the two veins to remove, and the blood vein running up > > under its inward crescent." > > -- > > Peace, Om > > > > Remove _ to validate e-mails. > > > > "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack > > Nicholson > > I am anal about deveining. My shrimp are almost butterflied when I get done > with them. I can't imagine what it's like for those people who bite the > heads of their crustaceans. Yuck! > > Mitch Or suck Crawfish heads... <shudder> Can't handle that. Just can't! -- Peace, Om Remove _ to validate e-mails. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson |
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Omelet > wrote:
> >Dirty shrimp veins are rather visible. >It's not like you cannot see them in a raw shrimp. Slightly dirty shrimp veins can be occluded by the flesh, and by the shell if you're hoping to cook something shell-on. Almost always, the entire school will have the same quantity of poop in their chute, so checking a few may make the decision for you. --Blair |
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Blair P. Houghton > wrote: > Omelet > wrote: > > > >Dirty shrimp veins are rather visible. > >It's not like you cannot see them in a raw shrimp. > > Slightly dirty shrimp veins can be occluded by the flesh, > and by the shell if you're hoping to cook something shell-on. > > Almost always, the entire school will have the same quantity > of poop in their chute, so checking a few may make the decision > for you. > > --Blair Ah, ok. See, I almost never cook shrimp shell on. My favorite way to cook them is shelled, deveined, then quickly sauteed in butter, olive oil, salt free lemon pepper and just a little garlic powder. I stand over them and mix them gently until they are just all evenly pink, then serve, usually as a side dish or added to a salad. I will also sometimes lightly dust wetted shrimp with spiced corn starch and deep fry. I time those carefully to prevent over-cooking! I keep hearing that "it's better to cook shrimp shell on" but it's such a MESSY PITA to eat them that way! And I don't see that it has any benefit unless I guess you are steaming them. But around here, they do sell "easy peel" shrimp like Steve W. mentioned. They are shell on and pre-deveined and are not terribly high in price. http://tinypic.com/2dijbra.jpg -- Peace, Om Remove _ to validate e-mails. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson |
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