In article >,
(TammyM) wrote:

> On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 14:43:31 -0500, Omelet >
> wrote:
>
> >> >Cheese is not vegetarian! ;-)
> >>
> >> Many vegetarians eat cheese, eggs and milk. Vegans don't.
> >>
> >> TammyM
> >
> >Oops.
> >
> >Damned esoteric terminology!!!
> >
> ><grumble>
>
> If you lived in California, you'd know or get kicked out of the state
> :-)
>
> TammyM, native Whacko Californian

I was born and raised there babe. ;-)
Left at Age 19. But, that was before the Vegan fad began!!!

I'm now 45 and love Texas! ;-D
Beef eaters until the end...
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Paul M. Cook > wrote:

> What the colonoscopy can do that a DNA test cannot is to
> look for polyps. Polyps often turn to cancer in time. So the
> sooner they are detected and removed, the better your chances
> of avoiding cancer. They are very hard to detect on x-rays,
> a visual is the best method.

Good point.

Steve

Omelet wrote:
>
> In article >,
> Mark Thorson > wrote:
>
> > Shadowland wrote:
> > >
> > > And just why do people need meat anyhow once their done growing ?
> >
> > Meat is the richest source of carnonutrients,
> > some of which like vitamin B-12 are essential
> > for human life. There are no reliable vegetarian
> > sources of B-12, except B-12 made from selected
> > strains of bacteria.
>
> I agree for the most part, but Brewers yeast is a good source
> theoretically, but only if it's fortified.

But where does the B-12 used to fortify the yeast
come from? Unfortified yeast are not a useful source
of B-12.

> The only reliable source for this essential vitamin is MEAT.

Actually eggs are a rich source of B-12, especially
if they're not cooked too much (B-12 is very
heat-labile). Cheese is a useful source of B-12.
Ovo-lacto-vegetarians usually don't have the
health problems that vegans do. If you go
strictly vegan, you really need to educate
yourself on the nutritional deficiencies
you are risking.

> If you take it in pill form, that means you are a hypocrite.
> You have to consider where that nutrient is created.

That's what I meant about the yeast.
However, I believe most of the B-12 of
commerce is made by bacterial fermentation.
(Of course, in the old two-kingdom system
of nomenclature, bacteria were classified
as animals because they lacked a cellulosic
cell wall.)

"enigma" > wrote in message
. ..
> Omelet > wrote in
> news >
>> In article >,
>> "Sarah" > wrote:
>>> Fries with cheese sauce taste great! Don't forget the
>>> ketchup!
>>
>> Cheese is not vegetarian! ;-)
>
> yeah, it is. so are eggs, milk, yogurt, etc.
> none of those are *vegan*, but that's not the same as
> vegetarianism.

Cheeses made with real rennet (the lining of calves stomachs, a by-product
of veal production) are not vegetarian.

In article <s6mCi.857$3R5.58@trnddc05>,
"Paul M. Cook" > wrote:

> "Steve Pope" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Omelet > wrote:
> >
> > >Go see a Gastroenterologist.
> > >
> > >You may be developing Colon Cancer.
> > >
> > >Changes in dietary and stool habits can be an early hallmark.
> > >
> > >You may seriously need to consider a Colonoscopy.
> > >
> > >It's advised periodically for people over 50 anyway.
> >
> > That may be a little alarmist, but periodic blood work and
> > a fecal occult blood tests are needed for just about anyone,
> > especially us ol' folk. A doctor will then tell you if you need
> > to be 'scoped.
> >
> > OTOH hand they are developing non-invasive tests using stool DNA,
> > so waiting until those are available is the other approach.
>
>
> What the colonoscopy can do that a DNA test cannot is to look for polyps.
> Polyps often turn to cancer in time. So the sooner they are detected and
> removed, the better your chances of avoiding cancer. They are very hard to
> detect on x-rays, a visual is the best method.
>
> Paul

Indeed...

Colon biopsies are often taken during scope procedures as well.
My brother in law just had 2 polyps removed.
We are awaiting the pathology reports...

Colon Cancer can be so very deadly if left undetected for too long. A
VERY good friend/ co-worker died five years ago from it. His only
symptoms were fatigue but he blew it off because he worked night shifts.
It finally became debilitating enough for him to go to the Dr. about it.

Turns out he had colon cancer that had already spread to his liver. His
liver was 2/3 full of small tumors.

He was dead 2 months later.
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In article >,
Mark Thorson > wrote:

> > The only reliable source for this essential vitamin is MEAT.
>
> Actually eggs are a rich source of B-12, especially
> if they're not cooked too much (B-12 is very
> heat-labile).

Indeed, but I personally classify eggs as meat. ;-)

> Cheese is a useful source of B-12.
> Ovo-lacto-vegetarians usually don't have the
> health problems that vegans do. If you go
> strictly vegan, you really need to educate
> yourself on the nutritional deficiencies
> you are risking.

The thing is, if someone has gone vegan/vegetarian for moral reasons,
the unfertilized eggs on the mass market are not living organisms. You
are not killing anything to eat them.

On the other hand, there is the issue of the conditions mass market
laying hens are kept in, and the fact that they are used to make soup at
around 2 years of age (iirc).

>
> > If you take it in pill form, that means you are a hypocrite.
> > You have to consider where that nutrient is created.
>
> That's what I meant about the yeast.

Yes. :-)

> However, I believe most of the B-12 of
> commerce is made by bacterial fermentation.
> (Of course, in the old two-kingdom system
> of nomenclature, bacteria were classified
> as animals because they lacked a cellulosic
> cell wall.)

If one is worried about killing things, you kill billions of living
organisms every day when you take a dump.
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In article <MJmCi.422$tY2.410@trndny01>,
"deja.blues" > wrote:

> "enigma" > wrote in message
> . ..
> > Omelet > wrote in
> > news > >
> >> In article >,
> >> "Sarah" > wrote:
> >>> Fries with cheese sauce taste great! Don't forget the
> >>> ketchup!
> >>
> >> Cheese is not vegetarian! ;-)
> >
> > yeah, it is. so are eggs, milk, yogurt, etc.
> > none of those are *vegan*, but that's not the same as
> > vegetarianism.
>
> Cheeses made with real rennet (the lining of calves stomachs, a by-product
> of veal production) are not vegetarian.

<lol>

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"Omelet" > wrote in message
news the pathology reports...
>
> Colon Cancer can be so very deadly if left undetected for too long. A
> VERY good friend/ co-worker died five years ago from it. His only
> symptoms were fatigue but he blew it off because he worked night shifts.
> It finally became debilitating enough for him to go to the Dr. about it.
>
> Turns out he had colon cancer that had already spread to his liver. His
> liver was 2/3 full of small tumors.
>
> He was dead 2 months later.
> --
> Peace, Om
>

Said it before and will say it again: Dr. in Georgetown I go to told me
colon cancer is 100% totally preventable. It takes 8 years for a polyp to
turn into cancer. Have colonoscopy every 5 years as recommended; they
routinely cut out the polyps and biopsy everyone of them. Do the math, do
the logic.
Dee Dee

In article >,
"Dee Dee" > wrote:

> "Omelet" > wrote in message
> news > the pathology reports...
> >
> > Colon Cancer can be so very deadly if left undetected for too long. A
> > VERY good friend/ co-worker died five years ago from it. His only
> > symptoms were fatigue but he blew it off because he worked night shifts.
> > It finally became debilitating enough for him to go to the Dr. about it.
> >
> > Turns out he had colon cancer that had already spread to his liver. His
> > liver was 2/3 full of small tumors.
> >
> > He was dead 2 months later.
> > --
> > Peace, Om
> >
>
> Said it before and will say it again: Dr. in Georgetown I go to told me
> colon cancer is 100% totally preventable. It takes 8 years for a polyp to
> turn into cancer. Have colonoscopy every 5 years as recommended; they
> routinely cut out the polyps and biopsy everyone of them. Do the math, do
> the logic.
> Dee Dee

Absolutely... except colonscopies run close to $2,000.00 around here.
If you have no health insurance, many cannot do it.
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"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> In article >,
> "Dee Dee" > wrote:
>
>> "Omelet" > wrote in message
>> news >> the pathology reports...
>> >
>> > Colon Cancer can be so very deadly if left undetected for too long. A
>> > VERY good friend/ co-worker died five years ago from it. His only
>> > symptoms were fatigue but he blew it off because he worked night
>> > shifts.
>> > It finally became debilitating enough for him to go to the Dr. about
>> > it.
>> >
>> > Turns out he had colon cancer that had already spread to his liver. His
>> > liver was 2/3 full of small tumors.
>> >
>> > He was dead 2 months later.
>> > --
>> > Peace, Om
>> >
>>
>> Said it before and will say it again: Dr. in Georgetown I go to told me
>> colon cancer is 100% totally preventable. It takes 8 years for a polyp
>> to
>> turn into cancer. Have colonoscopy every 5 years as recommended; they
>> routinely cut out the polyps and biopsy everyone of them. Do the math, do
>> the logic.
>> Dee Dee
>
> Absolutely... except colonscopies run close to $2,000.00 around here.
> If you have no health insurance, many cannot do it.
> --
> Peace, Om

O.K. I'll restate: ...100% totally preventable if you have the money, have
health insurance, and the motivation to get the money, get the health
insurance, and get the colonoscopy. ;-)

f-i-l had the first two requisites, but not the third - no motivation to
repeat a failed colonoscopy -- hence colon cancer; hence, operation, and
rehab 6 weeks.
Dee Dee

In article >,
"Dee Dee" > wrote:

> >> Said it before and will say it again: Dr. in Georgetown I go to told me
> >> colon cancer is 100% totally preventable. It takes 8 years for a polyp
> >> to
> >> turn into cancer. Have colonoscopy every 5 years as recommended; they
> >> routinely cut out the polyps and biopsy everyone of them. Do the math, do
> >> the logic.
> >> Dee Dee
> >
> > Absolutely... except colonscopies run close to $2,000.00 around here.
> > If you have no health insurance, many cannot do it.
> > --
> > Peace, Om
>
> O.K. I'll restate: ...100% totally preventable if you have the money, have
> health insurance, and the motivation to get the money, get the health
> insurance, and get the colonoscopy. ;-)

Sorry. I was just playing devil's advocate. <G>
Those that live on minimum wage obviously will simply have short life
spans...

>
> f-i-l had the first two requisites, but not the third - no motivation to
> repeat a failed colonoscopy -- hence colon cancer; hence, operation, and
> rehab 6 weeks.
> Dee Dee

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On Sep 2, 3:44 am, Omelet > wrote:

Do you always have the last word ?

In article om>,
Shadowland > wrote:

> On Sep 2, 3:44 am, Omelet > wrote:
>
> Do you always have the last word ?

No, but obviously YOU do!

Go ahead and reply. I won't answer.
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On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 13:28:29 -0500, Omelet >
wrote:

>In article .com>,
> Shadowland > wrote:
>
>> On Sep 1, 9:05 am, Andy <q> wrote:
>> > > Me, I'm having bacon (LOTS of bacon) & eggs for breakfast. Lamb chops
>> > > for
>> > > dinner. You may have my salad. BYE!
>> >
>> > Me, I had two more homemade BBQ pork tenderloin sandwiches and Lays plain
>> > potato chips for breakfast and a chuck of 85% cocoa dark chocolate. I'm
>> > about
>> > done eating for the day.
>>
>>
>> Hey go for it.....and have a good laugh while you're at it.
>>
>> Relatedly the son of my neighbor had to have a toe cut off because it
>> was turning black. He's diabetic.
>>
>> And what's the obesity rate now...around 30% ?
>>
>> How's your weight ?
>>
>> But the whole thing is a big yuke yuke.
>>
>> I gonna pig out on some good fresh corn on the cob, maybe some
>> spagetti squash, and a huge glass of apple cider....oh yeah !!
>>
>> Oh man that sound 100 times better than all that crappola you clowns
>> are eating. Been there....done that.
>
>You will be diabetic long before I will with a high starch/sugar diet
>like that...
>
>What is your fasting glucose level, or do you even know?
>
>What is your triglyceride level?
>
>You may die of cardiac arrest before you have a chance to become a
>diabetic.

god, i hope so.

your pal,
blake

On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 16:32:04 -0700, Mark Thorson >
wrote:

>Omelet wrote:
>>
>
>> If you take it in pill form, that means you are a hypocrite.
>> You have to consider where that nutrient is created.
>
>That's what I meant about the yeast.
>However, I believe most of the B-12 of
>commerce is made by bacterial fermentation.
>(Of course, in the old two-kingdom system
>of nomenclature, bacteria were classified
>as animals because they lacked a cellulosic
>cell wall.)

cell wall doesn't equal plant anymore?

your pal,
blake

On Sun, 02 Sep 2007 02:44:57 -0500, Omelet >
wrote:

>In article >,
> Mark Thorson > wrote:
>
>
>> However, I believe most of the B-12 of
>> commerce is made by bacterial fermentation.
>> (Of course, in the old two-kingdom system
>> of nomenclature, bacteria were classified
>> as animals because they lacked a cellulosic
>> cell wall.)
>
>If one is worried about killing things, you kill billions of living
>organisms every day when you take a dump.

no wonder i feel so good afterwards.

your pal,
george

In article >,
blake murphy > wrote:

> >> Oh man that sound 100 times better than all that crappola you clowns
> >> are eating. Been there....done that.
> >
> >You will be diabetic long before I will with a high starch/sugar diet
> >like that...
> >
> >What is your fasting glucose level, or do you even know?
> >
> >What is your triglyceride level?
> >
> >You may die of cardiac arrest before you have a chance to become a
> >diabetic.
>
> god, i hope so.
>
> your pal,
> blake

<lol>

Good point actually!
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In article >,
blake murphy > wrote:

> On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 16:32:04 -0700, Mark Thorson >
> wrote:
>
> >Omelet wrote:
> >>
> >
> >> If you take it in pill form, that means you are a hypocrite.
> >> You have to consider where that nutrient is created.
> >
> >That's what I meant about the yeast.
> >However, I believe most of the B-12 of
> >commerce is made by bacterial fermentation.
> >(Of course, in the old two-kingdom system
> >of nomenclature, bacteria were classified
> >as animals because they lacked a cellulosic
> >cell wall.)
>
> cell wall doesn't equal plant anymore?
>
> your pal,
> blake

You wish. ;-)

Last time I had to take a class on that stuff, there were 5 kingdoms.
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In article >,
blake murphy > wrote:

> On Sun, 02 Sep 2007 02:44:57 -0500, Omelet >
> wrote:
>
> >In article >,
> > Mark Thorson > wrote:
> >
> >
> >> However, I believe most of the B-12 of
> >> commerce is made by bacterial fermentation.
> >> (Of course, in the old two-kingdom system
> >> of nomenclature, bacteria were classified
> >> as animals because they lacked a cellulosic
> >> cell wall.)
> >
> >If one is worried about killing things, you kill billions of living
> >organisms every day when you take a dump.
>
> no wonder i feel so good afterwards.
>
> your pal,
> george

ROFL!!!
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blake murphy wrote:
>
> cell wall doesn't equal plant anymore?

Fungi have cell walls, and they have their own kingdom now.

It bothers me, too. Every ****ant little phylum is
lobbying to get the status of kingdom. And bacteria
have TWO kingdoms -- what's up with that?

And while the biology people are handing out
kingdom status right and left, who was there
to defend poor Pluto.

In article >,
Mark Thorson > wrote:

> blake murphy wrote:
> >
> > cell wall doesn't equal plant anymore?
>
> Fungi have cell walls, and they have their own kingdom now.
>
> It bothers me, too. Every ****ant little phylum is
> lobbying to get the status of kingdom. And bacteria
> have TWO kingdoms -- what's up with that?
>
> And while the biology people are handing out
> kingdom status right and left, who was there
> to defend poor Pluto.

<lol> I will ignore the "wisdom" of the powers that be and still call
Pluto a planet!

I think they dumped it due to it's eccentric orbit.
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Omelet wrote:
>
> <lol> I will ignore the "wisdom" of the powers that be and still call
> Pluto a planet!
>
> I think they dumped it due to it's eccentric orbit.

And you're sympathetic to that form of discrimination, eh?

In article >,
Mark Thorson > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> >
> > <lol> I will ignore the "wisdom" of the powers that be and still call
> > Pluto a planet!
> >
> > I think they dumped it due to it's eccentric orbit.
>
> And you're sympathetic to that form of discrimination, eh?

Huh?

I'll still count Pluto as a planet.
I'm a bit of a rebel I guess and won't always bow to authority,
especially if they are ignorant.

Hell, many "scientists" still don't understand why low carb dieting
works better than low fat dieting.

Many have no "common sense". It appears to be an oxymoron.
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>
> Sorry. I was just playing devil's advocate. <G>

Yes, I appreciate that in you because you always do it good-natured-ly.

> Those that live on minimum wage obviously will simply have short life
> spans...

So they say.
>
> Hope he is ok now?
> Peace, Om



Yes, thank you. Survived two different cancers. Lymphoma & testicular
cancer; and colon cancer. Both cured.
Dee Dee

"blake murphy" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 02 Sep 2007 02:44:57 -0500, Omelet >
> wrote:
>
>>In article >,
>> Mark Thorson > wrote:
>>
>>
>>> However, I believe most of the B-12 of
>>> commerce is made by bacterial fermentation.
>>> (Of course, in the old two-kingdom system
>>> of nomenclature, bacteria were classified
>>> as animals because they lacked a cellulosic
>>> cell wall.)
>>
>>If one is worried about killing things, you kill billions of living
>>organisms every day when you take a dump.
>
> no wonder i feel so good afterwards.
>
> your pal,
> george


Tell that to followers of Ghandi.
Dee Dee

"blake murphy" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 02 Sep 2007 02:44:57 -0500, Omelet >
> wrote:
>
>>In article >,
>> Mark Thorson > wrote:
>>
>>
>>> However, I believe most of the B-12 of
>>> commerce is made by bacterial fermentation.
>>> (Of course, in the old two-kingdom system
>>> of nomenclature, bacteria were classified
>>> as animals because they lacked a cellulosic
>>> cell wall.)
>>
>>If one is worried about killing things, you kill billions of living
>>organisms every day when you take a dump.
>
> no wonder i feel so good afterwards.
>


"I love the smell of Tidy-Bowl in the morning!" - LTC Bill Kilgore (Robert
Duvall).

In article >,
"Dee Dee" > wrote:

> >
> > Sorry. I was just playing devil's advocate. <G>
>
> Yes, I appreciate that in you because you always do it good-natured-ly.

I try!

>
> > Those that live on minimum wage obviously will simply have short life
> > spans...
>
> So they say.
> >
> > Hope he is ok now?
> > Peace, Om
>
>
>
> Yes, thank you. Survived two different cancers. Lymphoma & testicular
> cancer; and colon cancer. Both cured.
> Dee Dee

Very good. :-)
That can be such hell for all involved...
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In article >,
Omelet > wrote:

> In article >,
> "Dee Dee" > wrote:

> > Said it before and will say it again: Dr. in Georgetown I go to told me
> > colon cancer is 100% totally preventable. It takes 8 years for a polyp to
> > turn into cancer. Have colonoscopy every 5 years as recommended; they
> > routinely cut out the polyps and biopsy everyone of them. Do the math, do
> > the logic.
> > Dee Dee
>
> Absolutely... except colonscopies run close to $2,000.00 around here.
> If you have no health insurance, many cannot do it.

They're totally free here in the land of socialised medicine.

Miche

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In article >,
Miche > wrote:

> In article >,
> Omelet > wrote:
>
> > In article >,
> > "Dee Dee" > wrote:
>
> > > Said it before and will say it again: Dr. in Georgetown I go to told me
> > > colon cancer is 100% totally preventable. It takes 8 years for a polyp
> > > to
> > > turn into cancer. Have colonoscopy every 5 years as recommended; they
> > > routinely cut out the polyps and biopsy everyone of them. Do the math, do
> > > the logic.
> > > Dee Dee
> >
> > Absolutely... except colonscopies run close to $2,000.00 around here.
> > If you have no health insurance, many cannot do it.
>
> They're totally free here in the land of socialised medicine.
>
> Miche

And what percentage of income tax do you pay for that?

Nothing is free...
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"Omelet" > wrote

> Miche > wrote:

>> Omelet > wrote:

>> > Absolutely... except colonscopies run close to $2,000.00 around here.
>> > If you have no health insurance, many cannot do it.
>>
>> They're totally free here in the land of socialised medicine.

> And what percentage of income tax do you pay for that?

Nothing's free, that's for sure. Someone is paying the doctors, etc,
and for the equipment.

nancy

In article >,
"Nancy Young" > wrote:

> "Omelet" > wrote
>
> > Miche > wrote:
>
> >> Omelet > wrote:
>
> >> > Absolutely... except colonscopies run close to $2,000.00 around here.
> >> > If you have no health insurance, many cannot do it.
> >>
> >> They're totally free here in the land of socialised medicine.
>
> > And what percentage of income tax do you pay for that?
>
> Nothing's free, that's for sure. Someone is paying the doctors, etc,
> and for the equipment.
>
> nancy

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"Miche" > wrote in message
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> In article >,
> Omelet > wrote:
>
>> In article >,
>> "Dee Dee" > wrote:
>
>> > Said it before and will say it again: Dr. in Georgetown I go to told me
>> > colon cancer is 100% totally preventable. It takes 8 years for a polyp
>> > to
>> > turn into cancer. Have colonoscopy every 5 years as recommended; they
>> > routinely cut out the polyps and biopsy everyone of them. Do the math,
>> > do
>> > the logic.
>> > Dee Dee
>>
>> Absolutely... except colonscopies run close to $2,000.00 around here.
>> If you have no health insurance, many cannot do it.
>
> They're totally free here in the land of socialised medicine.
>
> Miche
>
Shall I ask? Are they recommended by physicians and routinely done every
five years. My insurance pays for what medicare does not pay. I don't have
to ask for one; my physican schedules it, as they do a mammogram. They
routinely do pulmonary tests, chest exrays, etc to diagnose problems. I
have medicare, as I say many, many times, whether I want it or not.
Dee Dee

On Sun, 02 Sep 2007 13:40:48 -0500, Omelet >
wrote:

>In article >,
> blake murphy > wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 16:32:04 -0700, Mark Thorson >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Omelet wrote:
>> >>
>> >
>> >> If you take it in pill form, that means you are a hypocrite.
>> >> You have to consider where that nutrient is created.
>> >
>> >That's what I meant about the yeast.
>> >However, I believe most of the B-12 of
>> >commerce is made by bacterial fermentation.
>> >(Of course, in the old two-kingdom system
>> >of nomenclature, bacteria were classified
>> >as animals because they lacked a cellulosic
>> >cell wall.)
>>
>> cell wall doesn't equal plant anymore?
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>
>You wish. ;-)
>
>Last time I had to take a class on that stuff, there were 5 kingdoms.

i knew i was behind in physics, but thought i was doing o.k. in
biology.

your pal,
blake

In article >,
blake murphy > wrote:

> On Sun, 02 Sep 2007 13:40:48 -0500, Omelet >
> wrote:
>
> >In article >,
> > blake murphy > wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 16:32:04 -0700, Mark Thorson >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Omelet wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >> If you take it in pill form, that means you are a hypocrite.
> >> >> You have to consider where that nutrient is created.
> >> >
> >> >That's what I meant about the yeast.
> >> >However, I believe most of the B-12 of
> >> >commerce is made by bacterial fermentation.
> >> >(Of course, in the old two-kingdom system
> >> >of nomenclature, bacteria were classified
> >> >as animals because they lacked a cellulosic
> >> >cell wall.)
> >>
> >> cell wall doesn't equal plant anymore?
> >>
> >> your pal,
> >> blake
> >
> >You wish. ;-)
> >
> >Last time I had to take a class on that stuff, there were 5 kingdoms.
>
> i knew i was behind in physics, but thought i was doing o.k. in
> biology.
>
> your pal,
> blake

Plantae
Animalia
Monera
Fungi
Protista

Looks like I need to brush up too. Depending on the Author, some are
proposing 6. :-P

Look he

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom...#Five_kingdoms
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Dee Dee > wrote:

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>> "Dee Dee" > wrote:

>>> Said it before and will say it again: Dr. in Georgetown I go to told me
>>> colon cancer is 100% totally preventable. It takes 8 years for a polyp
>>> to
>>> turn into cancer. Have colonoscopy every 5 years as recommended; they
>>> routinely cut out the polyps and biopsy everyone of them. Do the math, do
>>> the logic.

>> Absolutely... except colonscopies run close to $2,000.00 around here.
>> If you have no health insurance, many cannot do it.

>O.K. I'll restate: ...100% totally preventable if you have the money, have
>health insurance, and the motivation to get the money, get the health
>insurance, and get the colonoscopy. ;-)

The NIH believes that if the entire population follows screening
guidelines, they'd prevent 60% of colon cancers. Nothing is
100% effective.

Steve

In article >,
"Dee Dee" > wrote:

> "Miche" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article >,
> > Omelet > wrote:
> >
> >> In article >,
> >> "Dee Dee" > wrote:
> >
> >> > Said it before and will say it again: Dr. in Georgetown I go to told me
> >> > colon cancer is 100% totally preventable. It takes 8 years for a polyp
> >> > to
> >> > turn into cancer. Have colonoscopy every 5 years as recommended; they
> >> > routinely cut out the polyps and biopsy everyone of them. Do the math,
> >> > do
> >> > the logic.
> >> > Dee Dee
> >>
> >> Absolutely... except colonscopies run close to $2,000.00 around here.
> >> If you have no health insurance, many cannot do it.
> >
> > They're totally free here in the land of socialised medicine.
> >
> Shall I ask? Are they recommended by physicians and routinely done every
> five years.

Yes and yes, once you get past a certain age (I forget what it is
offhand).

> My insurance pays for what medicare does not pay. I don't have
> to ask for one; my physican schedules it, as they do a mammogram.


Routine mammograms are free, too.

Miche

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In article >,
Omelet > wrote:

> In article >,
> Miche > wrote:
>
> > In article >,
> > Omelet > wrote:
> >
> > > In article >,
> > > "Dee Dee" > wrote:
> >
> > > > Said it before and will say it again: Dr. in Georgetown I go to told me
> > > > colon cancer is 100% totally preventable. It takes 8 years for a polyp
> > > > to
> > > > turn into cancer. Have colonoscopy every 5 years as recommended; they
> > > > routinely cut out the polyps and biopsy everyone of them. Do the math,
> > > > do
> > > > the logic.
> > > > Dee Dee
> > >
> > > Absolutely... except colonscopies run close to $2,000.00 around here.
> > > If you have no health insurance, many cannot do it.
> >
> > They're totally free here in the land of socialised medicine.
>
> And what percentage of income tax do you pay for that?

I don't know what percentage of my income tax goes to it.

> Nothing is free...

Oh, I know _that_.

Miche

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In article >,
Miche > wrote:

> In article >,
> Omelet > wrote:
>
> > In article >,
> > Miche > wrote:
> >
> > > In article >,
> > > Omelet > wrote:
> > >
> > > > In article >,
> > > > "Dee Dee" > wrote:
> > >
> > > > > Said it before and will say it again: Dr. in Georgetown I go to told
> > > > > me
> > > > > colon cancer is 100% totally preventable. It takes 8 years for a
> > > > > polyp
> > > > > to
> > > > > turn into cancer. Have colonoscopy every 5 years as recommended;
> > > > > they
> > > > > routinely cut out the polyps and biopsy everyone of them. Do the
> > > > > math,
> > > > > do
> > > > > the logic.
> > > > > Dee Dee
> > > >
> > > > Absolutely... except colonscopies run close to $2,000.00 around here.
> > > > If you have no health insurance, many cannot do it.
> > >
> > > They're totally free here in the land of socialised medicine.
> >
> > And what percentage of income tax do you pay for that?
>
> I don't know what percentage of my income tax goes to it.
>
> > Nothing is free...
>
> Oh, I know _that_.
>
> Miche

Sorry Miche, could not resist.
You stated above:

"They're totally free here in the land of socialised medicine."

One could only wish. <G>

TANSTAAFL... ;-)
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On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 11:55:45 -0500, Omelet >
wrote:

>In article >,
> blake murphy > wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 02 Sep 2007 13:40:48 -0500, Omelet >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >In article >,
>> > blake murphy > wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 16:32:04 -0700, Mark Thorson >
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Omelet wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >> If you take it in pill form, that means you are a hypocrite.
>> >> >> You have to consider where that nutrient is created.
>> >> >
>> >> >That's what I meant about the yeast.
>> >> >However, I believe most of the B-12 of
>> >> >commerce is made by bacterial fermentation.
>> >> >(Of course, in the old two-kingdom system
>> >> >of nomenclature, bacteria were classified
>> >> >as animals because they lacked a cellulosic
>> >> >cell wall.)
>> >>
>> >> cell wall doesn't equal plant anymore?
>> >>
>> >> your pal,
>> >> blake
>> >
>> >You wish. ;-)
>> >
>> >Last time I had to take a class on that stuff, there were 5 kingdoms.
>>
>> i knew i was behind in physics, but thought i was doing o.k. in
>> biology.
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>
>Plantae
>Animalia
>Monera
>Fungi
>Protista
>
>Looks like I need to brush up too. Depending on the Author, some are
>proposing 6. :-P
>
>Look he
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom...#Five_kingdoms

nuts. i think i'll go back to Edible and Inedible.

your pal,
blake

In article >,
blake murphy > wrote:

> >Look he
> >
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom...#Five_kingdoms
>
> nuts. i think i'll go back to Edible and Inedible.
>
> your pal,
> blake

I know the feeling. <G>
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