This was posted to 3 Senior groups I subscribe to.. Joy is a friend of
mine and has cats herself, like I do..So I thought to post it on here as
this is good to know about.....
__________________________________________________ ___________

A friend sent me this. I checked it with Snopes, and it's true. I never
knew this.

--
Joy

"If a cluttered desk is a sign of a cluttered mind, of what, then, is an
empty desk? -- Jay Brand, cognitive psychologist


Subject: If You Have A Dog - Please Read & pass It On


This week I had the first case in history of raisin toxicity ever seen at
MedVet. My patient was a 56-pound, 5 yr old male neutered lab mix that ate
half a canister of raisins sometime between 7:30 AM and 4:30 PM on Tuesday.

He started with vomiting, diarrhoea and shaking about 1AM on Wednesday but
the owner didn't call my emergency service until 7AM.

I had heard somewhere about raisins AND grapes causing acute Renal failure
but hadn't seen any formal paper on the subject.

We had her bring the dog in immediately. In the meantime, I called the ER
service at MedVet, and the doctor there was like me - had heard something
about it, but....

Anyway, we contacted the ASPCA National Animal Poison Control Centre and
they said to give IV fluids at 1 times maintenance and watch the kidney
values for the next 48-72 hours.

The dog's BUN (blood urea nitrogen level) was already at 32 (normal less
than 27) and creatinine over 5 (1.9 is the high end of normal).

Both are monitors of kidney function in the bloodstream. We placed an IV
catheter and started the fluids. Rechecked the renal values at 5 PM and the
BUN was over 40 and creatinine over 7 with no urine production after a litre
of fluids.

At the point I felt the dog was in acute renal failure and sent him on to
MedVet for a urinary catheter to monitor urine output overnight as well as
overnight care. He started vomiting again overnight at MedVet and his renal
values have continued to increase daily. He produced urine when given lasix
as a diuretic. He was on 3 different anti-vomiting medications

and they still couldn't control his vomiting. Today his urine output
decreased again, his BUN was over 120, his creatinine was at 10, his
phosphorus was very elevated and his blood pressure, which had been staying
around 150, skyrocketed to 220.. He continued to vomit and the owners
elected to euthanize.


This is a very sad case - great dog, great owners who had no idea raisins
could be a toxin. Please alert everyone you know who has a dog of this very
serious risk. Poison control said as few as 7 raisins or grapes could be
toxic. Many people I know give their dogs grapes or raisins as treats
including our ex! - handler's. Any exposure should give rise to immediate
concern.

Laurinda Morris, DVM
Danville Veterinary Clinic
Danville , Ohio

Even if you don't have a dog, you might have friends who do. This is worth
passing on to them

--
Bigbazza (Barry) Oz

"Bigbazza" > wrote in news:5k1ureF1paj5U1
@mid.individual.net:

> This was posted to 3 Senior groups I subscribe to.. Joy is a friend of
> mine and has cats herself, like I do..So I thought to post it on here as
> this is good to know about.....
> __________________________________________________ ___________


Yep, not only grapes and raisins are poisonous to dogs, but chocolate,
cocoa, onions and macadamia nuts.


http://www.snopes.com/critters/crusader/raisins.asp


Good thing my dog is rather fussy about what she eats, and is not fed table
scraps.


--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

"People sleep safely in their beds because rough men stand ready in
the night to do violence to those who would do them harm"
-- George Orwell

"Bigbazza" > wrote

> Even if you don't have a dog, you might have friends who do. This is worth
> passing on to them

I knew about chocolate but I only learned recently that grapes
(and therefore raisins) are toxic to dogs. I had no idea, I used
to give my dog grapes as a treat. She never had more than one
or two, luckily for me, because I didn't know better!

Thanks.

nancy

On Sep 3, 8:05?am, "Nancy Young" > wrote:
> "Bigbazza" > wrote
>
> > Even if you don't have a dog, you might have friends who do. This is worth
> > passing on to them
>
> I knew about chocolate but I only learned recently that grapes
> (and therefore raisins) are toxic to dogs. I had no idea, I used
> to give my dog grapes as a treat. She never had more than one
> or two, luckily for me, because I didn't know better!

Raisins are toxic for cats too, among other common foods.

http://www.vetinfo4cats.com


Sheldon

On Mon, 3 Sep 2007 18:27:20 +1000, "Bigbazza"
> wrote:

>This was posted to 3 Senior groups I subscribe to.. Joy is a friend of
>mine and has cats herself, like I do..So I thought to post it on here as
>this is good to know about.....

>Bigbazza (Barry) Oz

Wow, this was worth reading. And PeterL mentioned onions which I
never knew. My dogs, Rosie, Reggie and Daphne are nicknamed Oreck,
Hoover and Eureka and are always hovering (Hoovering) in the kitchen
when I cook because they know that "mommy" is sure to drop some good
stuff when she's cooking. (HA! Food related!!)

TammyM, gonna be more careful about those onions

On Mon, 3 Sep 2007 18:27:20 +1000, "Bigbazza"
> wrote:

>This was posted to 3 Senior groups I subscribe to.. Joy is a friend of
>mine and has cats herself, like I do..So I thought to post it on here as
>this is good to know about.....

Which once again brings up the phrase I was raised with: "Don't give
dogs people food". It works for me. I don't understand the thought
process it takes to feed (beloved) pets chocolate or in this case,
raisins.

http://www.snopes.com/critters/crusader/raisins.asp


--

Ham and eggs.
A day's work for the chicken, a lifetime commitment for the pig.

Nancy Young wrote:
>

>
> I knew about chocolate but I only learned recently that grapes
> (and therefore raisins) are toxic to dogs. I had no idea, I used
> to give my dog grapes as a treat. She never had more than one
> or two, luckily for me, because I didn't know better!

One of my dogs won't eat anything unless there is meat in it. I feed him
kibble but have to add canned dog food to it or her won't touch it. He
loves scraps of meat but won't bother with bread or vegetables unless they
are covered in butter or meat juices. So unless there are hamburger
glossette raisins I doubt if he would bother with them.

"Bigbazza" > wrote in message
...
> This was posted to 3 Senior groups I subscribe to.. Joy is a friend of
> mine and has cats herself, like I do..So I thought to post it on here as
> this is good to know about.....
> __________________________________________________ ___________
>
> A friend sent me this. I checked it with Snopes, and it's true. I never
> knew this.
>
> --
> Joy
>
> "If a cluttered desk is a sign of a cluttered mind, of what, then, is an
> empty desk? -- Jay Brand, cognitive psychologist
>
>
> Subject: If You Have A Dog - Please Read & pass It On
>
>
> This week I had the first case in history of raisin toxicity ever seen at
> MedVet. My patient was a 56-pound, 5 yr old male neutered lab mix that ate
> half a canister of raisins sometime between 7:30 AM and 4:30 PM on
Tuesday.
>
> He started with vomiting, diarrhoea and shaking about 1AM on Wednesday but
> the owner didn't call my emergency service until 7AM.
>
> I had heard somewhere about raisins AND grapes causing acute Renal failure
> but hadn't seen any formal paper on the subject.
>
> We had her bring the dog in immediately. In the meantime, I called the ER
> service at MedVet, and the doctor there was like me - had heard something
> about it, but....
>
> Anyway, we contacted the ASPCA National Animal Poison Control Centre and
> they said to give IV fluids at 1 times maintenance and watch the kidney
> values for the next 48-72 hours.
>
> The dog's BUN (blood urea nitrogen level) was already at 32 (normal less
> than 27) and creatinine over 5 (1.9 is the high end of normal).
>
> Both are monitors of kidney function in the bloodstream. We placed an IV
> catheter and started the fluids. Rechecked the renal values at 5 PM and
the
> BUN was over 40 and creatinine over 7 with no urine production after a
litre
> of fluids.
>
> At the point I felt the dog was in acute renal failure and sent him on to
> MedVet for a urinary catheter to monitor urine output overnight as well as
> overnight care. He started vomiting again overnight at MedVet and his
renal
> values have continued to increase daily. He produced urine when given
lasix
> as a diuretic. He was on 3 different anti-vomiting medications
>
> and they still couldn't control his vomiting. Today his urine output
> decreased again, his BUN was over 120, his creatinine was at 10, his
> phosphorus was very elevated and his blood pressure, which had been
staying
> around 150, skyrocketed to 220.. He continued to vomit and the owners
> elected to euthanize.
>
>
> This is a very sad case - great dog, great owners who had no idea raisins
> could be a toxin. Please alert everyone you know who has a dog of this
very
> serious risk. Poison control said as few as 7 raisins or grapes could be
> toxic. Many people I know give their dogs grapes or raisins as treats
> including our ex! - handler's. Any exposure should give rise to immediate
> concern.


It's poisonous to cats too. It is the yellow phenolphthalein that develops
while drying.

Paul

I thought this was going to be about Asian restaurants. How
disappointing.

--Bryan

"PeterLucas" > wrote in message
0.25...
> "Bigbazza" > wrote in news:5k1ureF1paj5U1
> @mid.individual.net:
>
>> This was posted to 3 Senior groups I subscribe to.. Joy is a friend of
>> mine and has cats herself, like I do..So I thought to post it on here as
>> this is good to know about.....
>> __________________________________________________ ___________
>
>
> Yep, not only grapes and raisins are poisonous to dogs, but chocolate,
> cocoa, onions and macadamia nuts.
>
>
> http://www.snopes.com/critters/crusader/raisins.asp
>
>
> Good thing my dog is rather fussy about what she eats, and is not fed
> table
> scraps.

I didn't know about the macadamia nuts. I think all the other things are
poisonous to cats as well.