On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 11:34:14 -0700, Cryambers >
wrote:

>This is my mom's sloppy joe recipe.

I saved Wayne Boatwright's recipe when he posted it, and I thought his
looked awful good. Haven't made it yet. Hmm...you guys are making
me hungry with all this talk....

Christine

Sloppy Joes

Recipe By :
Serving Size : 8 Preparation Time :0:00
Categories : Sandwiches

Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
-------- ------------ --------------------------------
1 lb Ground meat
2 tb Unsalted butter or olive oil
1/2 ea Medium onion -- 1/4" dice
1/2 ea Green bell pepper -- 1/4" dice
1/2 ea Red bell pepper -- 1/4" dice
1 ea Stalk celery -- 1/4" dice
2 ts Chili powder, or to taste
1/2 ts Ground cumin
1/2 ts Ground coriander
1/2 ts Mexican oregano
1/2 c Chili sauce
1/2 c Catsup
1/2 ts Salt
Few grindings black pepper

Brown meat, breaking up large pieces. Drain in colander and
reserve.
Melt butter and cook onion, green and red pepper, and celery until
all
are transparent. Return meat to pan. Add remaining ingredients and
simmer, covered, for 15-20 minutes. May be frozen if desired.

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*

Andy wrote:
> Sheldon said...
>
> > "Vilco" wrote:
> >> Is it made with ground meat?
> >> Which meat and how is it cooked?
> >> Which ingredients along with the meat?
>
> > Sovenly Guido is American chop suey minus the elbow macaroni.
>
> > AMERICAN CHOP SUEY
>
> > Sheldoni
>
> Chop Suey is an Asian dish created in America for non-Asian Americans, iirc.
> The translation into English is "Beggar's hash," or something close.

There's is nothing Asian about any chop suey.... the chop suey sold in
American Chinese restaurants doesn't exist in China

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Chop_Suey

Sheldon

Christine Dabney said...

> On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 11:34:14 -0700, Cryambers >
> wrote:
>
>>This is my mom's sloppy joe recipe.
>
> I saved Wayne Boatwright's recipe when he posted it, and I thought his
> looked awful good. Haven't made it yet. Hmm...you guys are making
> me hungry with all this talk....
>
> Christine
>
> Sloppy Joes
>
> Recipe By :
> Serving Size : 8 Preparation Time :0:00
> Categories : Sandwiches
>
> Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
> -------- ------------ --------------------------------
> 1 lb Ground meat
> 2 tb Unsalted butter or olive oil
> 1/2 ea Medium onion -- 1/4" dice
> 1/2 ea Green bell pepper -- 1/4" dice
> 1/2 ea Red bell pepper -- 1/4" dice
> 1 ea Stalk celery -- 1/4" dice
> 2 ts Chili powder, or to taste
> 1/2 ts Ground cumin
> 1/2 ts Ground coriander
> 1/2 ts Mexican oregano
> 1/2 c Chili sauce
> 1/2 c Catsup
> 1/2 ts Salt
> Few grindings black pepper
>
> Brown meat, breaking up large pieces. Drain in colander and
> reserve.
> Melt butter and cook onion, green and red pepper, and celery until
> all
> are transparent. Return meat to pan. Add remaining ingredients and
> simmer, covered, for 15-20 minutes. May be frozen if desired.


Whoa! The gourmet version!!! (saved)

Thanks,

Andy

Sheldon said...

> Andy wrote:
>> Sheldon said...
>>
>> > "Vilco" wrote:
>> >> Is it made with ground meat?
>> >> Which meat and how is it cooked?
>> >> Which ingredients along with the meat?
>>
>> > Sovenly Guido is American chop suey minus the elbow macaroni.
>>
>> > AMERICAN CHOP SUEY
>>
>> > Sheldoni
>>
>> Chop Suey is an Asian dish created in America for non-Asian Americans,
>> iirc. The translation into English is "Beggar's hash," or something
>> close.
>
> There's is nothing Asian about any chop suey.... the chop suey sold in
> American Chinese restaurants doesn't exist in China
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Chop_Suey
>
> Sheldon


Sheldon,

That's what I thought I said. I thought it was created by the Chinese
restaurateurs in San Francisco's Chinatown to entice non-Asian Americans to
get a taste of a simpler cuisine that didn't come close to matching their
exotic dishes. "Get 'em in the door" so to speak.

Maybe it was chow mein?!? I forget. I saw it on FTV once.

Andy

Christine Dabney > wrote in
:

> Sloppy Joes
>

That is very similar to my taco stew...except instead of chili sauce and
katschup I use sour cream and I use taco seasoning to replace the spices
used. Oh I use chopped tomato as well.

--

The house of the burning beet-Alan

It'll be a sunny day in August, when the Moon will shine that night-
Elbonian Folklore

Sheldon wrote:
> On Sep 8, 1:15?pm, "jmcquown" > wrote:
>>
>> I remember being invited to a friends' house for dinner one night.
>> She said she was making goulash. Naturally I thought of Hungarian
>> Goulash and my taste buds were all set for it. Turned out to be a
>> macaroni & hamburger casserole. Hmmm.
>
> Your host didn't say "Hungarian Goulash" but technically you were
> served a goulash, hog slop is a goulash.
>
> gou?lash
> noun
> Etymology: Hungarian guly?s, short for guly?sh?s, literally,
> herdsman's meat
> 1 : a stew made with meat (as beef), assorted vegetables, and paprika
> 2 : a round in bridge played with hands produced by a redistribution
> of previously dealt cards
> ---> 3 : a mixture of heterogeneous elements : JUMBLE
> ---
>
> Sheldon

No, she didn't say "Hungarian Goulash". But since I'm not originally from
the southern U.S. I had never heard of this macaroni hamburger concoction
before, let alone heard it called goulash! I never had it when we lived in
South Carolina, either. Maybe it should be called Jumble, instead!

Jill

Christine Dabney wrote:
> On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 11:34:14 -0700, Cryambers >
> wrote:
>
>> This is my mom's sloppy joe recipe.
>
> I saved Wayne Boatwright's recipe when he posted it, and I thought his
> looked awful good. Haven't made it yet. Hmm...you guys are making
> me hungry with all this talk....
>
> Christine
>
> Sloppy Joes
>
> Recipe By :
> Serving Size : 8 Preparation Time :0:00
> Categories : Sandwiches
>
> Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
> -------- ------------ --------------------------------
> 1 lb Ground meat
> 2 tb Unsalted butter or olive oil
> 1/2 ea Medium onion -- 1/4" dice
> 1/2 ea Green bell pepper -- 1/4" dice
> 1/2 ea Red bell pepper -- 1/4" dice
> 1 ea Stalk celery -- 1/4" dice
> 2 ts Chili powder, or to taste
> 1/2 ts Ground cumin
> 1/2 ts Ground coriander
> 1/2 ts Mexican oregano
> 1/2 c Chili sauce
> 1/2 c Catsup
> 1/2 ts Salt
> Few grindings black pepper
>
(snippety)

It sounds good, but that's a hell of a lot of ingredients for good ol'
fashioned sloppy joes! I use tomato sauce, onion, bell pepper, garlic and
some black pepper. That's about it and it tastes fine

Jill

Sheldon wrote:
> On Sep 6, 8:28?am, "Nancy Young" > wrote:
>>
>> When I was a kid, sloppy joes were the Manwich stuff from a
>> can.
>>
>> Now when I think of sloppy joes, it's cold cuts on rye with
>> cole slaw, something along those lines. Wonderful sandwiches.
>>
>> I haven't had a Manwich since I was a kid, and hardly ever then.
>> I liked them then.
>
> Way back then they could get away with such sexist product names, and
> I bet mostly women bought Manwich.
>
> Sheldon

Ha! It was geared towards MEN with big appetites whose wives apparently
couldn't or wouldn't cook. Same thing with that jingle, "How do you handle
a hungry man? The Man Handler!" (I can't for the life of me remember what
that jingle was for.)

Jill

Joe E. Bushy said...

> On Sun, 9 Sep 2007 11:19:49 -0500, jmcquown said in rec.food.cooking:
>
>>Ha! It was geared towards MEN with big appetites whose wives apparently
>>couldn't or wouldn't cook. Same thing with that jingle, "How do you
>>handle a hungry man? The Man Handler!" (I can't for the life of me
>>remember what that jingle was for.)
>
> Your post put a bug in my ear; I remember that jingle distinctively --
> was it Frankie Laine singing? -- but I'll be darned if I could remember
> what it was for. I resorted to Google, and (ta da!) found it: Campbell's
> soup!
>
> And now I'm going to be humming that jingle all day ...
>
> -- Bushy


Ooooh... an NFL half-time sloppy joe or two sounds downright delectable!

Andy

On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 15:13:17 -0600, Christine Dabney
> wrote:

>I saved Wayne Boatwright's recipe when he posted it, and I thought his
>looked awful good. Haven't made it yet. Hmm...you guys are making
>me hungry with all this talk....
>
>Christine
>
>Sloppy Joes

<Snip recipe>

I must have been away when that was posted. Thanks for posting it
again. I'd add a splash of vinegar, but that's just me. I liked
Wayne and saved the following recipe he posted under another name.
I've make it and it always goes over well. Probably go good with
Sloppy Joes too. You can also do these indirectly on a Weber grill
for a smoky flavor. Or a real smoker if one is lucky enough to have
one. Just stir a few times to mix the smoke flavor through.

Hopefully Wayne is still around here someplace.

Lou Decruss

SPECIAL BAKED BEANS


* Exported from MasterCook *
Special Baked Beans
Recipe By : Thierry Gerbault
Serving Size : 6 Preparation Time :0:00
Categories : Vegetables Side Dish
Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
-------- ------------ --------------------------------
2 cn (28-oz) Bush's baked beans
1/2 lb Bacon, diced
1 2-inch yellow onion, diced
3 tb Light brown sugar, packed
3 tb Tomato catsup
1 t Coleman's dry mustard
1/2 ts French's yellow mustard
1/2 ts Worcestershire sauce
1/2 ts Tobasco sauce
1/2 ts Freshly ground black pepper
2 tb Bacon fat
Reserved bean liquid
Pour baked beans into colander and drain, reserving liquid. Fry diced
bacon until crisp. Add bacon to beans, reserving fat. Fry diced
onion in bacon fat until transparent but not brown. Add onion and 2
tablespoons of the bacon fat to the beans. Mix remaining ingredients
in small mixing bowl. Add mixture to beans and combine all
ingredients throughly, but gently. Add sufficient reserved bean
liquid to moisten bean mixture. It should not be soupy. Turn bean
mixture into 2-quart casserole. Beans may be refrigerated and held
one or two days until baking. Preheat oven to 300 degrees F. Bake
beans uncovered for 30-45 minutes until a crust forms on top. Serves
six.

On Sun, 9 Sep 2007 11:16:00 -0500, "jmcquown" >
wrote:

>Christine Dabney wrote:
>> On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 11:34:14 -0700, Cryambers >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This is my mom's sloppy joe recipe.
>>
>> I saved Wayne Boatwright's recipe when he posted it, and I thought his
>> looked awful good. Haven't made it yet. Hmm...you guys are making
>> me hungry with all this talk....
>>
>> Christine
>>
>> Sloppy Joes
>>
>> Recipe By :
>> Serving Size : 8 Preparation Time :0:00
>> Categories : Sandwiches
>>
>> Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
>> -------- ------------ --------------------------------
>> 1 lb Ground meat
>> 2 tb Unsalted butter or olive oil
>> 1/2 ea Medium onion -- 1/4" dice
>> 1/2 ea Green bell pepper -- 1/4" dice
>> 1/2 ea Red bell pepper -- 1/4" dice
>> 1 ea Stalk celery -- 1/4" dice
>> 2 ts Chili powder, or to taste
>> 1/2 ts Ground cumin
>> 1/2 ts Ground coriander
>> 1/2 ts Mexican oregano
>> 1/2 c Chili sauce
>> 1/2 c Catsup
>> 1/2 ts Salt
>> Few grindings black pepper
>>
>(snippety)
>
>It sounds good, but that's a hell of a lot of ingredients for good ol'
>fashioned sloppy joes! I use tomato sauce, onion, bell pepper, garlic and
>some black pepper. That's about it and it tastes fine
>
>Jill
>
It does sound good. It's not that many ingredients. Who said
anything about good ol' fashioned sloppy joes? Does anything with
more than 3 ingredients and 2 steps scare you? This is a cooking
group. Remember???? It amazes me that you can routinely take a post
with a nice recipe in it and turn it negative. No wonder you have an
imaginary boyfriend your fathers age. Oh!!! I forgot I'm killfiled
LOLOL

Lou

On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 16:11:54 -0500, Lou Decruss >
wrote:

>Hopefully Wayne is still around here someplace.

and he'll stop lurking or hiding. He was a wonderful asset to the
group in all forms.
--

History is a vast early warning system
Norman Cousins

On Sun, 9 Sep 2007 11:13:39 -0500, "jmcquown" >
wrote:

>Sheldon wrote:
>> On Sep 8, 1:15?pm, "jmcquown" > wrote:
>>>
>>> I remember being invited to a friends' house for dinner one night.
>>> She said she was making goulash. Naturally I thought of Hungarian
>>> Goulash and my taste buds were all set for it. Turned out to be a
>>> macaroni & hamburger casserole. Hmmm.
>>
>> Your host didn't say "Hungarian Goulash" but technically you were
>> served a goulash, hog slop is a goulash.
>>
>> gou?lash
>> noun
>> Etymology: Hungarian guly?s, short for guly?sh?s, literally,
>> herdsman's meat
>> 1 : a stew made with meat (as beef), assorted vegetables, and paprika
>> 2 : a round in bridge played with hands produced by a redistribution
>> of previously dealt cards
>> ---> 3 : a mixture of heterogeneous elements : JUMBLE
>> ---
>>
>> Sheldon
>
>No, she didn't say "Hungarian Goulash". But since I'm not originally from
>the southern U.S. I had never heard of this macaroni hamburger concoction
>before, let alone heard it called goulash! I never had it when we lived in
>South Carolina, either. Maybe it should be called Jumble, instead

My mother made this a lot and she called it goulash. The recipe was
printed in some magazine in the 1950s by a tomato sauce company which
I do not recall. Hamburger cooked with onions and bell pepper, tomato
sauce added, then elbow macaroni, maybe something else. I don't know
what spices she used, but she didn't know about paprika except as a
decoration for deviled eggs.

Lou Decruss wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Sep 2007 11:16:00 -0500, "jmcquown" >
> wrote:
>
>>> Sloppy Joes
>>>
>>> Recipe By : *Wayne Boatwright*
>>> Serving Size : 8 Preparation Time :0:00
>>> Categories : Sandwiches
>>>
>>> Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
>>> -------- ------------ --------------------------------
>>> 1 lb Ground meat
>>> 2 tb Unsalted butter or olive oil
>>> 1/2 ea Medium onion -- 1/4" dice
>>> 1/2 ea Green bell pepper -- 1/4" dice
>>> 1/2 ea Red bell pepper -- 1/4" dice
>>> 1 ea Stalk celery -- 1/4" dice
>>> 2 ts Chili powder, or to taste
>>> 1/2 ts Ground cumin
>>> 1/2 ts Ground coriander
>>> 1/2 ts Mexican oregano
>>> 1/2 c Chili sauce
>>> 1/2 c Catsup
>>> 1/2 ts Salt
>>> Few grindings black pepper
>>>
>> (snippety)
>>
>> It sounds good, but that's a hell of a lot of ingredients for good
>> ol' fashioned sloppy joes! I use tomato sauce, onion, bell pepper,
>> garlic and some black pepper. That's about it and it tastes fine
>>
>> Jill
>>
> It does sound good. It's not that many ingredients. Who said
> anything about good ol' fashioned sloppy joes? Does anything with
> more than 3 ingredients and 2 steps scare you? This is a cooking
> group. Remember???? It amazes me that you can routinely take a post
> with a nice recipe in it and turn it negative. No wonder you have an
> imaginary boyfriend your fathers age. Oh!!! I forgot I'm killfiled
> LOLOL
>
> Lou

No, a long list of ingredients doesn't scare me. But in my experience
growing up sloppy joes were intended to be a simple food used to stretch the
food dollar. I mean come on, we're talking ground beef in sauce on a
hamburger bun, fer cryin' out loud! I'm sure Wayne's recipe tastes great,
but I wouldn't go to all the trouble of adding chili powder, ground cumin,
ground coriander and Mexican oregano and chili sauce. That turns it into a
Tex-Mex sloppy joe. I'm sure it's tastes great but it's not what I think of
as sloppy joes. I don't see how that makes it a negative. I have no idea
what set you off, and I never killfiled you that I'm aware of.

As for my "imaginary boyfriend", John, shall I send you a photo of us?
Perhaps I'll get a new one for you when we're at the art show in Davenport
next weekend.

Jill

Joe E. Bushy wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Sep 2007 11:19:49 -0500, jmcquown said in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> "How do you handle a hungry man? The Man Handler!" (I can't for
>> the life of me remember what that jingle was for.)
>
> Your post put a bug in my ear; I remember that jingle distinctively
> -- was it Frankie Laine singing? -- but I'll be darned if I could
> remember what it was for. I resorted to Google, and (ta da!) found
> it: Campbell's soup!
>
> And now I'm going to be humming that jingle all day ...
>
> -- Bushy

Earworm! Sorry about that

On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 15:06:43 -0700, sf wrote:

>On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 16:11:54 -0500, Lou Decruss >
>wrote:
>
>>Hopefully Wayne is still around here someplace.
>
>and he'll stop lurking or hiding. He was a wonderful asset to the
>group in all forms.

Yep. He was postive and fun.

Lou

jmcquown wrote:
> Lou Decruss wrote:
>> On Sun, 9 Sep 2007 11:16:00 -0500, "jmcquown"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>> Sloppy Joes
>>>>
>>>> Recipe By : *Wayne Boatwright*
>>>> Serving Size : 8 Preparation Time :0:00
>>>> Categories : Sandwiches
>>>>
>>>> Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
>>>> -------- ------------ --------------------------------
>>>> 1 lb Ground meat
>>>> 2 tb Unsalted butter or olive oil
>>>> 1/2 ea Medium onion -- 1/4" dice
>>>> 1/2 ea Green bell pepper -- 1/4" dice
>>>> 1/2 ea Red bell pepper -- 1/4" dice
>>>> 1 ea Stalk celery -- 1/4" dice
>>>> 2 ts Chili powder, or to taste
>>>> 1/2 ts Ground cumin
>>>> 1/2 ts Ground coriander
>>>> 1/2 ts Mexican oregano
>>>> 1/2 c Chili sauce
>>>> 1/2 c Catsup
>>>> 1/2 ts Salt
>>>> Few grindings black pepper
>>>>
>>> (snippety)
>>>
>>> It sounds good, but that's a hell of a lot of ingredients for good
>>> ol' fashioned sloppy joes! I use tomato sauce, onion, bell pepper,
>>> garlic and some black pepper. That's about it and it tastes fine
>>>
>>> Jill
>>>
>> It does sound good. It's not that many ingredients. Who said
>> anything about good ol' fashioned sloppy joes? Does anything with
>> more than 3 ingredients and 2 steps scare you?

You've obviously never seen my recipe for meatloaf. Or stuffed flounder.
Walnut/Sesame chicken strips. Thai dumplings. Salmon stuffed pasta. Get
over yourself.

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
> Lou Decruss wrote:
>> On Sun, 9 Sep 2007 11:16:00 -0500, "jmcquown" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>> Sloppy Joes
>>>>
>>>> Recipe By : *Wayne Boatwright*
>>>> Serving Size : 8 Preparation Time :0:00
>>>> Categories : Sandwiches
>>>>
>>>> Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
>>>> -------- ------------ --------------------------------
>>>> 1 lb Ground meat
>>>> 2 tb Unsalted butter or olive oil
>>>> 1/2 ea Medium onion -- 1/4" dice
>>>> 1/2 ea Green bell pepper -- 1/4" dice
>>>> 1/2 ea Red bell pepper -- 1/4" dice
>>>> 1 ea Stalk celery -- 1/4" dice
>>>> 2 ts Chili powder, or to taste
>>>> 1/2 ts Ground cumin
>>>> 1/2 ts Ground coriander
>>>> 1/2 ts Mexican oregano
>>>> 1/2 c Chili sauce
>>>> 1/2 c Catsup
>>>> 1/2 ts Salt
>>>> Few grindings black pepper
>>>>
>>> (snippety)
>>>
>>> It sounds good, but that's a hell of a lot of ingredients for good
>>> ol' fashioned sloppy joes! I use tomato sauce, onion, bell pepper,
>>> garlic and some black pepper. That's about it and it tastes fine
>>>
>>> Jill
>>>
>> It does sound good. It's not that many ingredients. Who said
>> anything about good ol' fashioned sloppy joes? Does anything with
>> more than 3 ingredients and 2 steps scare you? This is a cooking
>> group. Remember???? It amazes me that you can routinely take a post
>> with a nice recipe in it and turn it negative. No wonder you have an
>> imaginary boyfriend your fathers age. Oh!!! I forgot I'm killfiled
>> LOLOL
>>
>> Lou
>
> No, a long list of ingredients doesn't scare me. But in my experience
> growing up sloppy joes were intended to be a simple food used to stretch the
> food dollar. I mean come on, we're talking ground beef in sauce on a
> hamburger bun, fer cryin' out loud! I'm sure Wayne's recipe tastes great,
> but I wouldn't go to all the trouble of adding chili powder, ground cumin,
> ground coriander and Mexican oregano and chili sauce. That turns it into a
> Tex-Mex sloppy joe. I'm sure it's tastes great but it's not what I think of
> as sloppy joes. I don't see how that makes it a negative. I have no idea
> what set you off, and I never killfiled you that I'm aware of.
>
> As for my "imaginary boyfriend", John, shall I send you a photo of us?
> Perhaps I'll get a new one for you when we're at the art show in Davenport
> next weekend.
>
> Jill


There's so little difference between catsup and chili sauce I don't see
the point in using both. Overall the proportions look right, so I'm
pretty sure it's a fine recipe. I would also leave out the cumin and
oregano and add a little L&P Worcestershire sauce.

I never would have thought to use ground coriander-seed, but that's a
good idea.

Bob

On Sep 10, 5:11 pm, zxcvbob > wrote:
>
> >>>> 1/2 c Chili sauce
> >>>> 1/2 c Catsup
> >
> There's so little difference between catsup and chili sauce I don't see
> the point in using both. Overall the proportions look right, so I'm
> pretty sure it's a fine recipe.

No recipe that calls for Chili sauce and Catsup could possibly be "a
fine recipe."

>
> Bob

--Bryan

Bobo Bonobo® wrote:
> On Sep 10, 5:11 pm, zxcvbob > wrote:
>>>>>> 1/2 c Chili sauce
>>>>>> 1/2 c Catsup
>> There's so little difference between catsup and chili sauce I don't see
>> the point in using both. Overall the proportions look right, so I'm
>> pretty sure it's a fine recipe.
>
> No recipe that calls for Chili sauce and Catsup could possibly be "a
> fine recipe."
>
>> Bob
>
> --Bryan
>
>


It's a "Sloppy Joe" recipe; how fine do you want?

Bob

On Sep 10, 5:22 pm, zxcvbob > wrote:
> Bobo Bonobo® wrote:
> > On Sep 10, 5:11 pm, zxcvbob > wrote:
> >>>>>> 1/2 c Chili sauce
> >>>>>> 1/2 c Catsup
> >> There's so little difference between catsup and chili sauce I don't see
> >> the point in using both. Overall the proportions look right, so I'm
> >> pretty sure it's a fine recipe.
>
> > No recipe that calls for Chili sauce and Catsup could possibly be "a
> > fine recipe."
>
> >> Bob
>
> > --Bryan
>
> It's a "Sloppy Joe" recipe; how fine do you want?

I assume that the Chili sauce and Catsup were Heinz-type things.
Heinz Ketchup is a condiment, not an ingredients, and Heinz Chili
sauce is just horrible. Sloppy joes don't have to be crappy. I'm not
saying you have to use pureed fresh Midwest Summer tomatoes. Tomato
paste is very adequate, but Heinz-type Chili sauce?
>
> Bob

--Bryan

On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 15:21:21 -0500, "jmcquown"
> wrote:

>Walnut/Sesame chicken strips

I want that recipe!
--

History is a vast early warning system
Norman Cousins

sf wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 15:21:21 -0500, "jmcquown"
> > wrote:
>
>> Walnut/Sesame chicken strips
>
> I want that recipe!

I'll email it to ya I have to warn you, they are extremely rich! Best
served as an appetizer and they are just fine served at room temp!

Jill

On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 15:19:46 -0700, Bobo Bonobo® >
wrote:

>On Sep 10, 5:11 pm, zxcvbob > wrote:
>>
>> >>>> 1/2 c Chili sauce
>> >>>> 1/2 c Catsup
>> >
>> There's so little difference between catsup and chili sauce I don't see
>> the point in using both. Overall the proportions look right, so I'm
>> pretty sure it's a fine recipe.
>
>No recipe that calls for Chili sauce and Catsup could possibly be "a
>fine recipe."
>
>>
>> Bob
>
>--Bryan
>

whew! it's a good thing you're around, bobo. i might have poisoned
myself.

your pal,
blake

On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 15:21:21 -0500, "jmcquown"
> wrote:

>> Lou Decruss wrote:

>>> It does sound good. It's not that many ingredients. Who said
>>> anything about good ol' fashioned sloppy joes? Does anything with
>>> more than 3 ingredients and 2 steps scare you?
>
>You've obviously never seen my recipe for meatloaf. Or stuffed flounder.
>Walnut/Sesame chicken strips. Thai dumplings. Salmon stuffed pasta. Get
>over yourself.
>
>Jill

does anyone else here love it when jill says 'get over yourself'?

your chortling pal,
blake
>

blake murphy wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 15:21:21 -0500, "jmcquown"
> > wrote:
>
>>> Lou Decruss wrote:
>
>>>> It does sound good. It's not that many ingredients. Who said
>>>> anything about good ol' fashioned sloppy joes? Does anything with
>>>> more than 3 ingredients and 2 steps scare you?
>>
>> You've obviously never seen my recipe for meatloaf. Or stuffed
>> flounder. Walnut/Sesame chicken strips. Thai dumplings. Salmon
>> stuffed pasta. Get over yourself.
>>
>> Jill
>
> does anyone else here love it when jill says 'get over yourself'?

<G>

On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 11:39:08 -0500, "jmcquown"
> wrote:

>>> It sounds good, but that's a hell of a lot of ingredients for good
>>> ol' fashioned sloppy joes! I use tomato sauce, onion, bell pepper,
>>> garlic and some black pepper. That's about it and it tastes fine
>>>
>>> Jill
>>>
>> It does sound good. It's not that many ingredients. Who said
>> anything about good ol' fashioned sloppy joes? Does anything with
>> more than 3 ingredients and 2 steps scare you? This is a cooking
>> group. Remember???? It amazes me that you can routinely take a post
>> with a nice recipe in it and turn it negative. No wonder you have an
>> imaginary boyfriend your fathers age. Oh!!! I forgot I'm killfiled
>> LOLOL
>>
>> Lou
>
>No, a long list of ingredients doesn't scare me.

Good.

>But in my experience growing up sloppy joes were intended to be a simple
>food used to stretch the food dollar.

What does that have to do with something that might be a bit improved?

> I mean come on, we're talking ground beef in sauce on a
>hamburger bun, fer cryin' out loud!

Yep. You're right. There is no need for this group other than OT
posts. All we need is Manwich, Hamburger Helper, Frozen pizzas and
Kraft Mac-N-Cheese. I think we should discourage, and even chastise
those who try to think out of the box by using ingredients that Jill
doesn't remember her mom using. Shame on them!!!

>I'm sure Wayne's recipe tastes great but I wouldn't go to all the trouble of
>adding chili powder, ground cumin, ground coriander and Mexican oregano
>and chili sauce.

Yep. You are so correct. Adding that extensive list of ingredients
would take at least 3 minutes!!! Who in the world has all that time?

>That turns it into a Tex-Mex sloppy joe.

When Wayne returns lets gang up on him and make him re-name the
recipe. I'll help.

>I'm sure it's tastes great but it's not what I think of
>as sloppy joes.

There's 1000's of recipes for SJ's out there. The only common
ingredient is meat. Some recipes even call for pork or lamb. Some
don't use ground meat but use pulled or chopped. Can you imagine how
awful that might be?

>I don't see how that makes it a negative.

I'm sure you don't.

>I have no idea what set you off,

Bashing an acceptable recipe. I went a little goofy some time back
with a stir fry marinade and took a bit of heat about it. People were
gentle and called my attention to conflicting flavors. But nobody
said it was too much work. No one took your superior attitude.

I read more in depth into cookbooks from my 500 plus collection and
learned. Taking what I got here to heart. I'm actually making stir
fry tonight.

>I never killfiled you that I'm aware of.

You've mentioned it twice in responses. You're either dumb or a liar.
Maybe both. As long as you're happy it's fine with me.

>as for my "imaginary boyfriend", John,

I have no doubt John exists. So did Ray. Relationships are easier to
imagine than people. I should have been more clear.

>shall I send you a photo of us?

Sure!!! Send it to the address in my headers. LOL

>Perhaps I'll get a new one for you when we're at the art show in Davenport
>next weekend.

That would be so nice. Please crop your face out.


Louis

One time on Usenet, "jmcquown" > said:
> Sheldon wrote:
> > On Sep 8, 1:15?pm, "jmcquown" > wrote:
> >>
> >> I remember being invited to a friends' house for dinner one night.
> >> She said she was making goulash. Naturally I thought of Hungarian
> >> Goulash and my taste buds were all set for it. Turned out to be a
> >> macaroni & hamburger casserole. Hmmm.
> >
> > Your host didn't say "Hungarian Goulash" but technically you were
> > served a goulash, hog slop is a goulash.
> >
> > gou?lash
> > noun
> > Etymology: Hungarian guly?s, short for guly?sh?s, literally,
> > herdsman's meat
> > 1 : a stew made with meat (as beef), assorted vegetables, and paprika
> > 2 : a round in bridge played with hands produced by a redistribution
> > of previously dealt cards
> > ---> 3 : a mixture of heterogeneous elements : JUMBLE

> No, she didn't say "Hungarian Goulash". But since I'm not originally from
> the southern U.S. I had never heard of this macaroni hamburger concoction
> before, let alone heard it called goulash! I never had it when we lived in
> South Carolina, either. Maybe it should be called Jumble, instead!

My MidWestern-born gramma used to make what she called "goulash"
(not Hungarian) that consisted of hamburger, macaroni, onions,
tomato something (this was a long time ago), etc. I loved it, but
unfortunately, no one in the family ever learned how she made it.
I've tried, but it's not the same. In any case, I like the term
"jumble" better too...

--
Jani in WA

Ophelia wrote:
> blake murphy wrote:
>> On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 15:21:21 -0500, "jmcquown"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>> Lou Decruss wrote:
>>
>>>>> It does sound good. It's not that many ingredients. Who said
>>>>> anything about good ol' fashioned sloppy joes? Does anything with
>>>>> more than 3 ingredients and 2 steps scare you?
>>>
>>> You've obviously never seen my recipe for meatloaf. Or stuffed
>>> flounder. Walnut/Sesame chicken strips. Thai dumplings. Salmon
>>> stuffed pasta. Get over yourself.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> does anyone else here love it when jill says 'get over yourself'?
>
> <G>

Oh shut up, Ophelia! He thinks I don't know how to cook? Thinks I'm scared
of more than 3 ingredients and more than two steps? You haven't been paying
attention, either

Lou Decruss wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 11:39:08 -0500, "jmcquown"
> > wrote:
>
>>>> It sounds good, but that's a hell of a lot of ingredients for good
>>>> ol' fashioned sloppy joes! I use tomato sauce, onion, bell pepper,
>>>> garlic and some black pepper. That's about it and it tastes fine
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>> It does sound good. It's not that many ingredients. Who said
>>> anything about good ol' fashioned sloppy joes? Does anything with
>>> more than 3 ingredients and 2 steps scare you? This is a cooking
>>> group. Remember???? It amazes me that you can routinely take a
>>> post with a nice recipe in it and turn it negative. No wonder you
>>> have an imaginary boyfriend your fathers age. Oh!!! I forgot I'm
>>> killfiled LOLOL
>>>
>>> Lou
>>
>> No, a long list of ingredients doesn't scare me.
>
> Good.
>
>> But in my experience growing up sloppy joes were intended to be a
>> simple food used to stretch the food dollar.
>
> What does that have to do with something that might be a bit improved?
>
>> I mean come on, we're talking ground beef in sauce on a
>> hamburger bun, fer cryin' out loud!
>
> Yep. You're right. There is no need for this group other than OT
> posts. All we need is Manwich, Hamburger Helper, Frozen pizzas and
> Kraft Mac-N-Cheese. I think we should discourage, and even chastise
> those who try to think out of the box by using ingredients that Jill
> doesn't remember her mom using. Shame on them!!!
>
>> I'm sure Wayne's recipe tastes great but I wouldn't go to all the
>> trouble of adding chili powder, ground cumin, ground coriander and
>> Mexican oregano
>> and chili sauce.
>
> Yep. You are so correct. Adding that extensive list of ingredients
> would take at least 3 minutes!!! Who in the world has all that time?
>
>> That turns it into a Tex-Mex sloppy joe.
>
> When Wayne returns lets gang up on him and make him re-name the
> recipe. I'll help.
>
>> I'm sure it's tastes great but it's not what I think of
>> as sloppy joes.
>
> There's 1000's of recipes for SJ's out there. The only common
> ingredient is meat. Some recipes even call for pork or lamb. Some
> don't use ground meat but use pulled or chopped. Can you imagine how
> awful that might be?
>
>> I don't see how that makes it a negative.
>
> I'm sure you don't.
>
>> I have no idea what set you off,
>
> Bashing an acceptable recipe. I went a little goofy some time back
> with a stir fry marinade and took a bit of heat about it. People were
> gentle and called my attention to conflicting flavors. But nobody
> said it was too much work. No one took your superior attitude.
>
I didn't say it was too much work nor did I say it wasn't good. DO NOT put
words into my mouth. I said it was a lot of ingredients for a traditional
sloppy joe recipe, ya dork. Look at everyone elses' posts. Where do you
see Mexican oregano? Cumin? Coriander seed? Did you see anyone else post
something like this? No. Did I say it was a bad thing? NO. I wasn't
being superior; you're the one being superior by claiming I turned this into
a negative thread simply by stating I've never seen that many ingredients in
sloppy joes before. You're the one who got all ****y about it.

Jill

"blake murphy" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 15:19:46 -0700, Bobo Bonobo® >
> wrote:
>
>>On Sep 10, 5:11 pm, zxcvbob > wrote:
>>>
>>> >>>> 1/2 c Chili sauce
>>> >>>> 1/2 c Catsup
>>> >
>>> There's so little difference between catsup and chili sauce I don't see
>>> the point in using both. Overall the proportions look right, so I'm
>>> pretty sure it's a fine recipe.
>>
>>No recipe that calls for Chili sauce and Catsup could possibly be "a
>>fine recipe."
>>
>>>
>>> Bob
>>
>>--Bryan
>>
>
> whew! it's a good thing you're around, bobo. i might have poisoned
> myself.
>
> your pal,
> blake

This Public Service Announcement was provided courtesy of
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"blake murphy" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 15:21:21 -0500, "jmcquown"
> > wrote:
>
>>> Lou Decruss wrote:
>
>>>> It does sound good. It's not that many ingredients. Who said
>>>> anything about good ol' fashioned sloppy joes? Does anything with
>>>> more than 3 ingredients and 2 steps scare you?
>>
>>You've obviously never seen my recipe for meatloaf. Or stuffed flounder.
>>Walnut/Sesame chicken strips. Thai dumplings. Salmon stuffed pasta. Get
>>over yourself.
>>
>>Jill
>
> does anyone else here love it when jill says 'get over yourself'?
>
> your chortling pal,
> blake
>>
>

M-W.com quotes that statement as an example under the definition of 'irony'.

On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 19:50:01 GMT, Lou Decruss > wrote:

>On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 11:39:08 -0500, "jmcquown"
> wrote:
>
>>>> It sounds good, but that's a hell of a lot of ingredients for good
>>>> ol' fashioned sloppy joes! I use tomato sauce, onion, bell pepper,
>>>> garlic and some black pepper. That's about it and it tastes fine
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>> It does sound good. It's not that many ingredients. Who said
>>> anything about good ol' fashioned sloppy joes? Does anything with
>>> more than 3 ingredients and 2 steps scare you? This is a cooking
>>> group. Remember???? It amazes me that you can routinely take a post
>>> with a nice recipe in it and turn it negative. No wonder you have an
>>> imaginary boyfriend your fathers age. Oh!!! I forgot I'm killfiled
>>> LOLOL
>>>
>>> Lou
>>
>>No, a long list of ingredients doesn't scare me.
>
>Good.
>
>>But in my experience growing up sloppy joes were intended to be a simple
>>food used to stretch the food dollar.
<snip>
>
>>I'm sure it's tastes great but it's not what I think of
>>as sloppy joes.
>
>There's 1000's of recipes for SJ's out there. The only common
>ingredient is meat. Some recipes even call for pork or lamb. Some
>don't use ground meat but use pulled or chopped. Can you imagine how
>awful that might be?
>
i'm sure there's more than one for tofu, too. you can go first on
that one.
<snip>
>>I don't see how that makes it a negative.
>
>I'm sure you don't.
>
>>I have no idea what set you off,
>
>Bashing an acceptable recipe. I went a little goofy some time back
>with a stir fry marinade and took a bit of heat about it. People were
>gentle and called my attention to conflicting flavors. But nobody
>said it was too much work. No one took your superior attitude.
>
i hope it turns out well for you.
>>as for my "imaginary boyfriend", John,
>
>I have no doubt John exists. So did Ray. Relationships are easier to
>imagine than people. I should have been more clear.
>
i was wondering what happened to ray, who seemed to have disappeared
during my hiatus from r.f.c. i assumed he fled or jill murdered him.

your pal,
blake

On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:04:08 -0500, "jmcquown"
> wrote:

>Ophelia wrote:
>> blake murphy wrote:
>>> On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 15:21:21 -0500, "jmcquown"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Lou Decruss wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> It does sound good. It's not that many ingredients. Who said
>>>>>> anything about good ol' fashioned sloppy joes? Does anything with
>>>>>> more than 3 ingredients and 2 steps scare you?
>>>>
>>>> You've obviously never seen my recipe for meatloaf. Or stuffed
>>>> flounder. Walnut/Sesame chicken strips. Thai dumplings. Salmon
>>>> stuffed pasta. Get over yourself.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> does anyone else here love it when jill says 'get over yourself'?
>>
>> <G>
>
>Oh shut up, Ophelia! He thinks I don't know how to cook? Thinks I'm scared
>of more than 3 ingredients and more than two steps? You haven't been paying
>attention, either
>
yeah, ophelia! get over yourself!

your pal,
blake

blake murphy wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:04:08 -0500, "jmcquown"
> > wrote:
>
>> Ophelia wrote:
>>> blake murphy wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 15:21:21 -0500, "jmcquown"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Lou Decruss wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> It does sound good. It's not that many ingredients. Who said
>>>>>>> anything about good ol' fashioned sloppy joes? Does anything
>>>>>>> with more than 3 ingredients and 2 steps scare you?
>>>>>
>>>>> You've obviously never seen my recipe for meatloaf. Or stuffed
>>>>> flounder. Walnut/Sesame chicken strips. Thai dumplings. Salmon
>>>>> stuffed pasta. Get over yourself.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>> does anyone else here love it when jill says 'get over yourself'?
>>>
>>> <G>
>>
>> Oh shut up, Ophelia! He thinks I don't know how to cook? Thinks
>> I'm scared of more than 3 ingredients and more than two steps? You
>> haven't been paying attention, either
>>
> yeah, ophelia! get over yourself!
>
> your pal,
> blake

<G>