In article >,
Ward Abbott > wrote:

> On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 20:10:42 +1200, The Golfer's Wife wrote:
>
> >Why dont you people go to a dedicated butcher who knows how to produce
> >meat you can actually eat?
>
> The closest "dedicated butcher" is probably 300 miles from where I
> live. Most people also are in that predicament.
>
> It probably would be easier to find a millinery shop.

Mine's 15 minutes' walk up the street.

Miche

--
In the monastery office --
Before enlightenment: fetch mail, shuffle paper
After enlightenment: fetch mail, shuffle paper

Ward Abbott wrote:
> On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 20:10:42 +1200, The Golfer's Wife wrote:
>
>> Why dont you people go to a dedicated butcher who knows how to produce
>> meat you can actually eat?
>
> The closest "dedicated butcher" is probably 300 miles from where I
> live. Most people also are in that predicament.
>
> It probably would be easier to find a millinery shop.
>

I think all of the bigbox marketing has convinced people that nothing
else exists. There are quite a few choices in my area for quality non-
bigbox meats.

"George" > wrote in message
. ..
> Ward Abbott wrote:
>> On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 20:10:42 +1200, The Golfer's Wife wrote:
>>
>>> Why dont you people go to a dedicated butcher who knows how to produce
>>> meat you can actually eat?
>>
>> The closest "dedicated butcher" is probably 300 miles from where I
>> live. Most people also are in that predicament. It probably would
>> be easier to find a millinery shop.
>
> I think all of the bigbox marketing has convinced people that nothing else
> exists. There are quite a few choices in my area for quality non- bigbox
> meats.
>

Try mentioning the yellow pages to people, especially younger ones who've
only got a cell phone, and never had a landline. Often, you'll hear "Whuh?
Yellow what?" Granted, this information's available online, but still, if
you don't know to look, you'd never know how to find a business in your
town.

Miche wrote:
> In article >,
> Ward Abbott > wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 20:10:42 +1200, The Golfer's Wife wrote:
>>
>>> Why dont you people go to a dedicated butcher who knows how to produce
>>> meat you can actually eat?
>> The closest "dedicated butcher" is probably 300 miles from where I
>> live. Most people also are in that predicament.
>>
>> It probably would be easier to find a millinery shop.
>
> Mine's 15 minutes' walk up the street.
>
> Miche
>
Me too, and they make smoked and fresh kielbasa which is 100x better
than that hillshire crap from the bigbox store.

On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 08:27:40 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:


>I know of 2 of those in the area.

Gee...aren't you the lucky one!

On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 00:34:03 +1200, Miche > wrote:


>Mine's 15 minutes' walk up the street.


Gee....aren't you the lucky one!

On Sep 8, 8:02 am, George > wrote:
> Ward Abbott wrote:
> > On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 20:10:42 +1200, The Golfer's Wife wrote:
>
> >> Why dont you people go to a dedicated butcher who knows how to produce
> >> meat you can actually eat?
>
> > The closest "dedicated butcher" is probably 300 miles from where I
> > live. Most people also are in that predicament.
>
> > It probably would be easier to find a millinery shop.
>
> I think all of the bigbox marketing has convinced people that nothing
> else exists. There are quite a few choices in my area for quality non-
> bigbox meats.

The only thing that's going to reverse that is a change in people's
attitudes toward the sanctity of property versus public goods, and
moving away from private ownership of areas of the economy where it is
less useful than problematic. The *petit bourgeoisie* is long overdue
in realizing that their interests coincide more with working folks,
than with those of Wal Mart, ConAgra and Halliburton--just a few of
the corporations that exhibit the moral character of Jim Profit.

--Bryan

"Ward Abbott" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 08:27:40 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>
>>I know of 2 of those in the area.
>
> Gee...aren't you the lucky one!
>
>


He was simply responding to the generalization you stated, about how "most
people" are very far from a butcher shop. In fact, most people in the USA
live in concentrated population centers, so it's highly likely that they DO
have a butcher shop within a reasonable distance.

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> "George" > wrote in message
> . ..
>> Ward Abbott wrote:
>>> On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 20:10:42 +1200, The Golfer's Wife wrote:
>>>
>>>> Why dont you people go to a dedicated butcher who knows how to produce
>>>> meat you can actually eat?
>>> The closest "dedicated butcher" is probably 300 miles from where I
>>> live. Most people also are in that predicament. It probably would
>>> be easier to find a millinery shop.
>> I think all of the bigbox marketing has convinced people that nothing else
>> exists. There are quite a few choices in my area for quality non- bigbox
>> meats.
>>
>
> Try mentioning the yellow pages to people, especially younger ones who've
> only got a cell phone, and never had a landline. Often, you'll hear "Whuh?
> Yellow what?" Granted, this information's available online, but still, if
> you don't know to look, you'd never know how to find a business in your
> town.
>
>
I think that is because the "TV generation" has lots of folks who are
used to being told what to eat and where to eat it, what to drink, wear,
drive etc. So the only things they know about and respond to are the
carefully orchestrated choices that have been marketed to them. They
don't even think to ask "is there something else?"

"George" > wrote in message
. ..
> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>> "George" > wrote in message
>> . ..
>>> Ward Abbott wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 20:10:42 +1200, The Golfer's Wife wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Why dont you people go to a dedicated butcher who knows how to produce
>>>>> meat you can actually eat?
>>>> The closest "dedicated butcher" is probably 300 miles from where I
>>>> live. Most people also are in that predicament. It probably
>>>> would be easier to find a millinery shop.
>>> I think all of the bigbox marketing has convinced people that nothing
>>> else exists. There are quite a few choices in my area for quality non-
>>> bigbox meats.
>>>
>>
>> Try mentioning the yellow pages to people, especially younger ones who've
>> only got a cell phone, and never had a landline. Often, you'll hear
>> "Whuh? Yellow what?" Granted, this information's available online, but
>> still, if you don't know to look, you'd never know how to find a business
>> in your town.
> I think that is because the "TV generation" has lots of folks who are used
> to being told what to eat and where to eat it, what to drink, wear, drive
> etc. So the only things they know about and respond to are the carefully
> orchestrated choices that have been marketed to them. They don't even
> think to ask "is there something else?"

True.

Ward Abbott wrote:
>
> On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 08:27:40 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
> >I know of 2 of those in the area.
>
> Gee...aren't you the lucky one!

Fercrissakes you whined that there isn't a butcher shop for 300 miles, or a
millinery shop, and said that most people are in the same position. Based
on what I have access to that is bullshit. If I have three local butcher
shops within 3 miles of me, everyone else in town does too. If I have
access to 2 millinery stores, everyone around here does too. I suppose
there are a few people around her who don't bother with the real butcher
shop and don't know about them and the millinery stores, and are too dumb
to find them, they may sit around and broadcast their ignorance too.

"George" > wrote in message
>
> I think all of the bigbox marketing has convinced people that nothing else
> exists. There are quite a few choices in my area for quality non- bigbox
> meats.
>

I can find it about 35 miles from me and expensive as hell. Good, but
expensive. Another is 30 miles in a different direction, but the quality is
not as good as I can get at BJ's. Right in my town, the local butcher
closed up about 15 years ago. Not from lack of business, but code
requirements that he could not meet.

Ward Abbott wrote:
>
> On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 00:34:03 +1200, Miche > wrote:
>
> >Mine's 15 minutes' walk up the street.
>
> Gee....aren't you the lucky one!

It is interesting to note that is your response to everyone whose
experience is the opposite of yours.
Aren't you the pathetic one.

On 7 Sep 2007 17:29:56 GMT, Blinky the Shark >
wrote:

>TammyM wrote:
>> On 7 Sep 2007 06:36:28 GMT, Blinky the Shark >
>> wrote:

>> What a delightful glimpse into the past! I too remember Woolworth's
>
>I'm happy that you enjoyed it, Tammy.
>
>> lunch counters, but in my "yoot" (late 60's-early 70's), the soda
>> counter function you recall had past, I'm afraid. Thanks for
>> recounting!
>
>Thanks for the set-up...
>
>Did you say, "yoot"?
>
>
>
>(If you don't know what my "yoot" reference is to, I'll explain -- it's a
>well-known joke from a film.)

I know the film well, "My Cousin Vinny", and that line was delivered
by the late Fred Gwynne of Herman Muenster fame, may he RIP.

>Back to the Fountain Experience, yeah, I came in on the tail end of all
>that. But...I'm pretty sure that the Woolworth's up the street from me
>here in North Hollywood (California, USA) still pysically had a counter
>when I moved here in the mid-1980s. I doubt that it was in use, but I
>could swear that there was stil one there. Or I may be having a
>mixed-up flashback. I guess that would be a backflash (not to be
>conused with a backflush, which is a water softener term <g>). Then
>again, it doesn't seem like a dime-store retailer would let something as
>square-footy as a lunch counter take up space he could devote to more
>Swiffers and school supplies if it wasn't an *active* lunch counter; so
>perhaps it really was still workin'. This is L.A., after all, not the
>Midwest where I grew up.
<snip>

My memories of Woolworth's lunch counters are from childhood summers
spent with my grandparents. Back in the day (the 40's perhaps?), my
grandmother worked the Woolworth's candy counter. By the time we
grandchildren came along, she was retired (from another industry), but
the Woolworth store was still there and some of her former co-workers
still worked there. She took us to lunch there quite a lot, and we
kids got extra attention - and ice cream - from the lunch counter
ladies :-) My grandmother is still alive and kicking at the age of
almost 93 but she's fading fast :-( Those Woolworth memories, and
others from that era, are precious to me!

TammyM, waxing nostalgic

On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 11:06:44 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:


>Aren't you the pathetic one.

Dave...Honey...you are becoming an OLD tired actress.

"Ward Abbott" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 11:06:44 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>
>>Aren't you the pathetic one.
>
> Dave...Honey...you are becoming an OLD tired actress.
>
>


Ward, this is NOT a matter of opinion. It's a question of population
density. You said "most people" are very far (300 miles?) from a meat
market. That is illogical. Take NY State as an example. "Most people" in NY
live in NYC, Long Island, Albany, Syracuse, Rochester or Buffalo. All of
those places have meat markets, and nobody in those locations is 300 miles
from a meat market. Same with any other large population center, like
Baltimore, Miami, Los Angeles, etc.

"Most people" live where most people live.

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Ward Abbott wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 20:10:42 +1200, The Golfer's Wife wrote:
>>>
>>>> Why dont you people go to a dedicated butcher who knows how to
>>>> produce meat you can actually eat?
>>>
>>> The closest "dedicated butcher" is probably 300 miles from where I
>>> live. Most people also are in that predicament.
>>
>>
>> We are? I have three dedicated butcher shops within 3 miles of my
>> house, and I live in a small town.
>
> Same here, along with a public market on Saturday mornings, where a
> meat wholesaler has a booth and sells direct to the public. Seafood,
> too.
> I wonder where these "most people" generalizations come from.
> Omelet's also famous for these statements, usually paired with an
> insult to anyone who calls her on them.

Hey why pick on her. She hasn't said anything!

hmmmm do you have a crush on her Joseph? You can tell me, I promise not to
tell anyone

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Ward Abbott wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 20:10:42 +1200, The Golfer's Wife wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Why dont you people go to a dedicated butcher who knows how to
>>>>> produce meat you can actually eat?
>>>>
>>>> The closest "dedicated butcher" is probably 300 miles from where I
>>>> live. Most people also are in that predicament.
>>>
>>>
>>> We are? I have three dedicated butcher shops within 3 miles of my
>>> house, and I live in a small town.
>>
>> Same here, along with a public market on Saturday mornings, where a
>> meat wholesaler has a booth and sells direct to the public. Seafood,
>> too.
>> I wonder where these "most people" generalizations come from.
>> Omelet's also famous for these statements, usually paired with an
>> insult to anyone who calls her on them.
>
> Hey why pick on her. She hasn't said anything!
>
> hmmmm do you have a crush on her Joseph? You can tell me, I promise not
> to tell anyone
>

Yesterday, I commented that so-called the piece of vine attached "vine
ripened" tomatoes adds to the weight you pay for. Her response: "They are
sold by the bag. Not by weight. Idiot."

Does that answer you crush question?

On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 00:34:03 +1200, Miche > wrote:

>In article >,
> Ward Abbott > wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 20:10:42 +1200, The Golfer's Wife wrote:
>>
>> >Why dont you people go to a dedicated butcher who knows how to produce
>> >meat you can actually eat?
>>
>> The closest "dedicated butcher" is probably 300 miles from where I
>> live. Most people also are in that predicament.
>>
>> It probably would be easier to find a millinery shop.
>
>Mine's 15 minutes' walk up the street.
>
Nice! I'd probably be there daily if I lived that close to one...
meaning a real butcher shop, not a millinery shop. I eat meat,
but I don't wear hats.


--

Ham and eggs.
A day's work for the chicken, a lifetime commitment for the pig.

On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 13:03:37 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
> wrote:

>"George" > wrote in message
...
>> Ward Abbott wrote:
>>> On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 20:10:42 +1200, The Golfer's Wife wrote:
>>>
>>>> Why dont you people go to a dedicated butcher who knows how to produce
>>>> meat you can actually eat?
>>>
>>> The closest "dedicated butcher" is probably 300 miles from where I
>>> live. Most people also are in that predicament. It probably would
>>> be easier to find a millinery shop.
>>
>> I think all of the bigbox marketing has convinced people that nothing else
>> exists. There are quite a few choices in my area for quality non- bigbox
>> meats.
>>
>
>Try mentioning the yellow pages to people, especially younger ones who've
>only got a cell phone, and never had a landline. Often, you'll hear "Whuh?
>Yellow what?" Granted, this information's available online, but still, if
>you don't know to look, you'd never know how to find a business in your
>town.
>
I'd rephrase that to "don't know they exist", "never heard of them"
etc. These cell only users are (for the most part) much more adept at
finding things they want via the internet than we are via the yellow
pages, a land line and a car. My own kids constantly amaze me at what
they've found for sale/advertised on the net. In fact, they did most
of their tire kicking via the internet when they were house shopping
this summer (one closed last week, the other will close next week).


--

Ham and eggs.
A day's work for the chicken, a lifetime commitment for the pig.

<sf> wrote in message ...
> On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 13:03:37 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
> > wrote:
>
>>"George" > wrote in message
m...
>>> Ward Abbott wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 20:10:42 +1200, The Golfer's Wife wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Why dont you people go to a dedicated butcher who knows how to produce
>>>>> meat you can actually eat?
>>>>
>>>> The closest "dedicated butcher" is probably 300 miles from where I
>>>> live. Most people also are in that predicament. It probably
>>>> would
>>>> be easier to find a millinery shop.
>>>
>>> I think all of the bigbox marketing has convinced people that nothing
>>> else
>>> exists. There are quite a few choices in my area for quality non- bigbox
>>> meats.
>>>
>>
>>Try mentioning the yellow pages to people, especially younger ones who've
>>only got a cell phone, and never had a landline. Often, you'll hear "Whuh?
>>Yellow what?" Granted, this information's available online, but still, if
>>you don't know to look, you'd never know how to find a business in your
>>town.
>>
> I'd rephrase that to "don't know they exist", "never heard of them"
> etc. These cell only users are (for the most part) much more adept at
> finding things they want via the internet than we are via the yellow
> pages, a land line and a car. My own kids constantly amaze me at what
> they've found for sale/advertised on the net. In fact, they did most
> of their tire kicking via the internet when they were house shopping
> this summer (one closed last week, the other will close next week).

Yeah, but can they find a hardware store 2 minutes from the home? :-)

"JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote in message
...
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Ward Abbott wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 20:10:42 +1200, The Golfer's Wife wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Why dont you people go to a dedicated butcher who knows how to
>>>>>> produce meat you can actually eat?
>>>>>
>>>>> The closest "dedicated butcher" is probably 300 miles from where I
>>>>> live. Most people also are in that predicament.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We are? I have three dedicated butcher shops within 3 miles of my
>>>> house, and I live in a small town.
>>>
>>> Same here, along with a public market on Saturday mornings, where a
>>> meat wholesaler has a booth and sells direct to the public. Seafood,
>>> too.
>>> I wonder where these "most people" generalizations come from.
>>> Omelet's also famous for these statements, usually paired with an
>>> insult to anyone who calls her on them.
>>
>> Hey why pick on her. She hasn't said anything!
>>
>> hmmmm do you have a crush on her Joseph? You can tell me, I promise not
>> to tell anyone
>>
>
> Yesterday, I commented that so-called the piece of vine attached "vine
> ripened" tomatoes adds to the weight you pay for. Her response: "They are
> sold by the bag. Not by weight. Idiot."
>
> Does that answer you crush question?

awwwwwwwwwwwww OM!!!!!! come and say you are sorry and give our Joseph a wee
kiss please


Oh, and I was teasing Joseph!

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
> "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> Ward Abbott wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 20:10:42 +1200, The Golfer's Wife wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why dont you people go to a dedicated butcher who knows how to
>>>>>>> produce meat you can actually eat?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The closest "dedicated butcher" is probably 300 miles from where I
>>>>>> live. Most people also are in that predicament.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We are? I have three dedicated butcher shops within 3 miles of my
>>>>> house, and I live in a small town.
>>>>
>>>> Same here, along with a public market on Saturday mornings, where a
>>>> meat wholesaler has a booth and sells direct to the public. Seafood,
>>>> too.
>>>> I wonder where these "most people" generalizations come from.
>>>> Omelet's also famous for these statements, usually paired with an
>>>> insult to anyone who calls her on them.
>>>
>>> Hey why pick on her. She hasn't said anything!
>>>
>>> hmmmm do you have a crush on her Joseph? You can tell me, I promise not
>>> to tell anyone
>>>
>>
>> Yesterday, I commented that so-called the piece of vine attached "vine
>> ripened" tomatoes adds to the weight you pay for. Her response: "They are
>> sold by the bag. Not by weight. Idiot."
>>
>> Does that answer you crush question?
>
> awwwwwwwwwwwww OM!!!!!! come and say you are sorry and give our Joseph a
> wee kiss please
>
>
> Oh, and I was teasing Joseph!


The only apology I'd accept from her would be if she did what Vietnamese
monks did to protest the war: Sit down in the street, douse herself with
gasoline, and light a match.

<sf> wrote in message ...
> On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 20:10:42 +1200, The Golfer's Wife wrote:
>
>>Why dont you people go to a dedicated butcher who knows how to produce
>>meat you can actually eat?
>>
> Usually the real answer is "price".
>

Harris Teeter, a pretty big chain, has "real meat." They make their ground
beef there in the store, for example, from trimmings from roasts and such.
And they are a little more expensive.

"JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote in message
...
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> Ward Abbott wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 20:10:42 +1200, The Golfer's Wife wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why dont you people go to a dedicated butcher who knows how to
>>>>>>>> produce meat you can actually eat?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The closest "dedicated butcher" is probably 300 miles from where I
>>>>>>> live. Most people also are in that predicament.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We are? I have three dedicated butcher shops within 3 miles of my
>>>>>> house, and I live in a small town.
>>>>>
>>>>> Same here, along with a public market on Saturday mornings, where a
>>>>> meat wholesaler has a booth and sells direct to the public. Seafood,
>>>>> too.
>>>>> I wonder where these "most people" generalizations come from.
>>>>> Omelet's also famous for these statements, usually paired with an
>>>>> insult to anyone who calls her on them.
>>>>
>>>> Hey why pick on her. She hasn't said anything!
>>>>
>>>> hmmmm do you have a crush on her Joseph? You can tell me, I promise
>>>> not to tell anyone
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yesterday, I commented that so-called the piece of vine attached "vine
>>> ripened" tomatoes adds to the weight you pay for. Her response: "They
>>> are sold by the bag. Not by weight. Idiot."
>>>
>>> Does that answer you crush question?
>>
>> awwwwwwwwwwwww OM!!!!!! come and say you are sorry and give our Joseph a
>> wee kiss please
>>
>>
>> Oh, and I was teasing Joseph!
>
>
> The only apology I'd accept from her would be if she did what Vietnamese
> monks did to protest the war: Sit down in the street, douse herself with
> gasoline, and light a match.

For heavens sake!! You take offence easily. She deserves to die because
she called you an idiot!

Forget it boy... you are wayyyyyyy out of line...!!!!!!!!!!!!
>

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
> "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>>>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> Ward Abbott wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 20:10:42 +1200, The Golfer's Wife wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why dont you people go to a dedicated butcher who knows how to
>>>>>>>>> produce meat you can actually eat?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The closest "dedicated butcher" is probably 300 miles from where I
>>>>>>>> live. Most people also are in that predicament.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We are? I have three dedicated butcher shops within 3 miles of my
>>>>>>> house, and I live in a small town.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Same here, along with a public market on Saturday mornings, where a
>>>>>> meat wholesaler has a booth and sells direct to the public. Seafood,
>>>>>> too.
>>>>>> I wonder where these "most people" generalizations come from.
>>>>>> Omelet's also famous for these statements, usually paired with an
>>>>>> insult to anyone who calls her on them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey why pick on her. She hasn't said anything!
>>>>>
>>>>> hmmmm do you have a crush on her Joseph? You can tell me, I promise
>>>>> not to tell anyone
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yesterday, I commented that so-called the piece of vine attached "vine
>>>> ripened" tomatoes adds to the weight you pay for. Her response: "They
>>>> are sold by the bag. Not by weight. Idiot."
>>>>
>>>> Does that answer you crush question?
>>>
>>> awwwwwwwwwwwww OM!!!!!! come and say you are sorry and give our Joseph a
>>> wee kiss please
>>>
>>>
>>> Oh, and I was teasing Joseph!
>>
>>
>> The only apology I'd accept from her would be if she did what Vietnamese
>> monks did to protest the war: Sit down in the street, douse herself with
>> gasoline, and light a match.
>
> For heavens sake!! You take offence easily. She deserves to die because
> she called you an idiot!
>
> Forget it boy... you are wayyyyyyy out of line...!!!!!!!!!!!!


Her intentional and repeated lack of civility speaks for itself.

"Ophelia" > wrote :
>> The only apology I'd accept from her would be if she did what Vietnamese
>> monks did to protest the war: Sit down in the street, douse herself with
>> gasoline, and light a match.
>
> For heavens sake!! You take offence easily. She deserves to die because
> she called you an idiot!
>
>
Joe is an angry and unhappy little man. Life is too short to bother with
people like
this.

"cybercat" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote :
>>> The only apology I'd accept from her would be if she did what Vietnamese
>>> monks did to protest the war: Sit down in the street, douse herself with
>>> gasoline, and light a match.
>>
>> For heavens sake!! You take offence easily. She deserves to die
>> because she called you an idiot!
>>
>>
> Joe is an angry and unhappy little man. Life is too short to bother with
> people like
> this.

Ok... it is a pity though that he is so unhappy that he needs to lash out
for such a small slight.

TammyM wrote:
> On 7 Sep 2007 17:29:56 GMT, Blinky the Shark >
> wrote:
>
>>TammyM wrote:
>>> On 7 Sep 2007 06:36:28 GMT, Blinky the Shark >
>>> wrote:
>
>>> What a delightful glimpse into the past! I too remember Woolworth's
>>
>>I'm happy that you enjoyed it, Tammy.
>>
>>> lunch counters, but in my "yoot" (late 60's-early 70's), the soda
>>> counter function you recall had past, I'm afraid. Thanks for
>>> recounting!
>>
>>Thanks for the set-up...
>>
>>Did you say, "yoot"?
>>
>>
>>
>>(If you don't know what my "yoot" reference is to, I'll explain -- it's a
>>well-known joke from a film.)
>
> I know the film well, "My Cousin Vinny", and that line was delivered
> by the late Fred Gwynne of Herman Muenster fame, may he RIP.

Just making sure you were in on the fun with me. Excellent film!

> My memories of Woolworth's lunch counters are from childhood summers
> spent with my grandparents. Back in the day (the 40's perhaps?), my
> grandmother worked the Woolworth's candy counter. By the time we
> grandchildren came along, she was retired (from another industry), but
> the Woolworth store was still there and some of her former co-workers
> still worked there. She took us to lunch there quite a lot, and we
> kids got extra attention - and ice cream - from the lunch counter
> ladies :-) My grandmother is still alive and kicking at the age of
> almost 93 but she's fading fast :-( Those Woolworth memories, and
> others from that era, are precious to me!

I'll bet they are. Glad I indirectly brought them to mind again for
you.


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On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 08:27:40 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>Ward Abbott wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 20:10:42 +1200, The Golfer's Wife wrote:
>>
>> >Why dont you people go to a dedicated butcher who knows how to produce
>> >meat you can actually eat?
>>
>> The closest "dedicated butcher" is probably 300 miles from where I
>> live. Most people also are in that predicament.
>
>
>We are? I have three dedicated butcher shops within 3 miles of my house,
>and I live in a small town.
>
>
>> It probably would be easier to find a millinery shop.
>
>I know of 2 of those in the area.

but can you get those little hats for lamb chops there?

your pal,
blake

On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 10:58:51 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>Ward Abbott wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 08:27:40 -0400, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >I know of 2 of those in the area.
>>
>> Gee...aren't you the lucky one!
>
>Fercrissakes you whined that there isn't a butcher shop for 300 miles, or a
>millinery shop, and said that most people are in the same position. Based
>on what I have access to that is bullshit. If I have three local butcher
>shops within 3 miles of me, everyone else in town does too. If I have
>access to 2 millinery stores, everyone around here does too. I suppose
>there are a few people around her who don't bother with the real butcher
>shop and don't know about them and the millinery stores, and are too dumb
>to find them, they may sit around and broadcast their ignorance too.

maybe so, but most of the butcher shops i see around here (d.c. area)
are halal butchers. honest-to-god butchers that actually cut meat in
a stand-alone store are not as common as you might think.

your pal,
blake

On 8 Sep 2007 20:16:44 GMT, Blinky the Shark >
wrote:

>TammyM wrote:

>> My memories of Woolworth's lunch counters are from childhood summers
>> spent with my grandparents. Back in the day (the 40's perhaps?), my
>> grandmother worked the Woolworth's candy counter. By the time we
>> grandchildren came along, she was retired (from another industry), but
>> the Woolworth store was still there and some of her former co-workers
>> still worked there. She took us to lunch there quite a lot, and we
>> kids got extra attention - and ice cream - from the lunch counter
>> ladies :-)
>I'll bet they are. Glad I indirectly brought them to mind again for
>you.

We had Woolworths in Richmond, VA until I left there in 1975. I
credit it with turning me on to over easy eggs. Before then, I used
to like my eggs cooked dry....

I was working the night shift at a local hospital then (some things
never change!) and I used to take the bus to get home in the morning.
The transfer bus stop was right across the street from the Woolworths,
and I used to go in there and get my breakfast.

For some reason, the over easy or soft cooked eggs they fixed for the
lunch counter looked extremely good, and I started ordering my eggs
that way. I was hooked!!!

At other times, I would stop in there when I was shopping, and get a
BLT, or some other sandwich.

It wasn't haute cuisine, but man those old lunch counter folks knew
how to fix simple basic foods, for the most part.

When I went back this spring, I drove around the old downtown. The
Woolworths is no more....and hasn't been for many, many years.

Christine

"Christine Dabney" > wrote
>
> We had Woolworths in Richmond, VA until I left there in 1975. I
> credit it with turning me on to over easy eggs. Before then, I used
> to like my eggs cooked dry....

What I remember is being a little girl (maybe 1st grade) in Baltimore, and
Woolworths had balloons hanging all around the lunch counter and if you
ordered a banana split, they popped a balloon to see how much you had
to pay for it. It ranged from a penny to 49 cents. This was what my sister
and I would do after the 35-cent matinee at the Arcade Theater. She was
three years older, and we were alone, having walked together from our house
around the corner. (This was maybe 1966?)

In article >,
Ward Abbott > wrote:

> On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 00:34:03 +1200, Miche > wrote:
>
>
> >Mine's 15 minutes' walk up the street.
>
>
> Gee....aren't you the lucky one!

Hell yes.

Miche

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After enlightenment: fetch mail, shuffle paper

In article >,
George > wrote:

> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> > "George" > wrote in message
> > . ..
> >> Ward Abbott wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 20:10:42 +1200, The Golfer's Wife wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Why dont you people go to a dedicated butcher who knows how to produce
> >>>> meat you can actually eat?
> >>> The closest "dedicated butcher" is probably 300 miles from where I
> >>> live. Most people also are in that predicament. It probably would
> >>> be easier to find a millinery shop.
> >> I think all of the bigbox marketing has convinced people that nothing else
> >> exists. There are quite a few choices in my area for quality non- bigbox
> >> meats.
> >>
> >
> > Try mentioning the yellow pages to people, especially younger ones who've
> > only got a cell phone, and never had a landline. Often, you'll hear "Whuh?
> > Yellow what?" Granted, this information's available online, but still, if
> > you don't know to look, you'd never know how to find a business in your
> > town.
> >
> >
> I think that is because the "TV generation" has lots of folks who are
> used to being told what to eat and where to eat it, what to drink, wear,
> drive etc. So the only things they know about and respond to are the
> carefully orchestrated choices that have been marketed to them. They
> don't even think to ask "is there something else?"

It's also the reason a lot of people think cooking from scratch is
"hard". If you have to do more than open a box mix or pick up the
phone, it's too much effort.

Miche

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Before enlightenment: fetch mail, shuffle paper
After enlightenment: fetch mail, shuffle paper

>
> It's also the reason a lot of people think cooking from scratch is
> "hard". If you have to do more than open a box mix or pick up the
> phone, it's too much effort.
>
> Miche
>

And then there's the other side of the story of why people don't cook from
scratch, or even at all. Dear f-i-l says that he sometimes runs by these
cooking shows on TV and sees that there's nothing to it, all you do is do a
little stirring.
Dee Dee

"Christine Dabney" > wrote in message
...
>> We had Woolworths in Richmond, VA until I left there in 1975. I
> credit it with turning me on to over easy eggs. Before then, I used
> to like my eggs cooked dry....
>
> Christine


Christine, I've been meaning to ask you and was reminded today when I was
looking at yet another Dabney book on Virginia,
http://tinyurl.com/2gfjrv

Are you related to these particular Dabney's? Virginius Dabney?

Dee Dee

cybercat wrote:

> "Christine Dabney" > wrote
> >
> > We had Woolworths in Richmond, VA until I left there in 1975. I
> > credit it with turning me on to over easy eggs. Before then, I used
> > to like my eggs cooked dry....
>
> What I remember is being a little girl (maybe 1st grade) in Baltimore, and
> Woolworths had balloons hanging all around the lunch counter and if you
> ordered a banana split, they popped a balloon to see how much you had
> to pay for it. It ranged from a penny to 49 cents. This was what my sister
> and I would do after the 35-cent matinee at the Arcade Theater. She was
> three years older, and we were alone, having walked together from our
house
> around the corner. (This was maybe 1966?)


Hmmm...now at this "Arcade Theater" didn't they do the price thingy with
condoms...???

;---p


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Greg

"Gregory Morrow" > wrote in message
...
>
> cybercat wrote:
>
>> "Christine Dabney" > wrote
>> >
>> > We had Woolworths in Richmond, VA until I left there in 1975. I
>> > credit it with turning me on to over easy eggs. Before then, I used
>> > to like my eggs cooked dry....
>>
>> What I remember is being a little girl (maybe 1st grade) in Baltimore,
>> and
>> Woolworths had balloons hanging all around the lunch counter and if you
>> ordered a banana split, they popped a balloon to see how much you had
>> to pay for it. It ranged from a penny to 49 cents. This was what my
>> sister
>> and I would do after the 35-cent matinee at the Arcade Theater. She was
>> three years older, and we were alone, having walked together from our
> house
>> around the corner. (This was maybe 1966?)
>
>
> Hmmm...now at this "Arcade Theater" didn't they do the price thingy with
> condoms...???
>
> ;---p

I can tell by your posts that you smell bad.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
> "cybercat" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Ophelia" > wrote :
>>>> The only apology I'd accept from her would be if she did what
>>>> Vietnamese monks did to protest the war: Sit down in the street, douse
>>>> herself with gasoline, and light a match.
>>>
>>> For heavens sake!! You take offence easily. She deserves to die
>>> because she called you an idiot!
>>>
>>>
>> Joe is an angry and unhappy little man. Life is too short to bother with
>> people like
>> this.
>
> Ok... it is a pity though that he is so unhappy that he needs to lash out
> for such a small slight.


Since the year 2000, we in the U.S. have seen two inarguably accurate
surveys which prove that just over 52% of the population is terminally
stupid. Omelet....