"blake murphy" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 10:58:51 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>>Ward Abbott wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 08:27:40 -0400, Dave Smith
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> >I know of 2 of those in the area.
>>>
>>> Gee...aren't you the lucky one!
>>
>>Fercrissakes you whined that there isn't a butcher shop for 300 miles, or
>>a
>>millinery shop, and said that most people are in the same position. Based
>>on what I have access to that is bullshit. If I have three local butcher
>>shops within 3 miles of me, everyone else in town does too. If I have
>>access to 2 millinery stores, everyone around here does too. I suppose
>>there are a few people around her who don't bother with the real butcher
>>shop and don't know about them and the millinery stores, and are too dumb
>>to find them, they may sit around and broadcast their ignorance too.
>
> maybe so, but most of the butcher shops i see around here (d.c. area)
> are halal butchers. honest-to-god butchers that actually cut meat in
> a stand-alone store are not as common as you might think.
>
> your pal,
> blake


What if we remove the word "halal" and insert "kosher"?

TammyM > wrote:

> Those Woolworth memories, and
> others from that era, are precious to me!

There are still Woolworth stores in Germany, with a couple of branches
here in Düsseldorf, but I have no idea if there are any lunch counters
there (I suspect not), as it never occurs to me to go inside. I think
I've been there only once in the past 20 years or so.

Victor

In article >,
(Victor Sack) wrote:

> TammyM > wrote:
>
> > Those Woolworth memories, and
> > others from that era, are precious to me!
>
> There are still Woolworth stores in Germany, with a couple of branches
> here in Düsseldorf, but I have no idea if there are any lunch counters
> there (I suspect not), as it never occurs to me to go inside. I think
> I've been there only once in the past 20 years or so.

Woolworths is a chain of supermarkets in NZ, these days. I remember one
as a department store when I was younger.

Miche

--
In the monastery office --
Before enlightenment: fetch mail, shuffle paper
After enlightenment: fetch mail, shuffle paper

In article >, sf wrote:

> On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 00:34:03 +1200, Miche > wrote:
>
> >In article >,
> > Ward Abbott > wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 20:10:42 +1200, The Golfer's Wife wrote:
> >>
> >> >Why dont you people go to a dedicated butcher who knows how to produce
> >> >meat you can actually eat?
> >>
> >> The closest "dedicated butcher" is probably 300 miles from where I
> >> live. Most people also are in that predicament.
> >>
> >> It probably would be easier to find a millinery shop.
> >
> >Mine's 15 minutes' walk up the street.
> >
> Nice! I'd probably be there daily if I lived that close to one...
> meaning a real butcher shop, not a millinery shop. I eat meat,
> but I don't wear hats.

He's a nice bloke, too. Superb bacon, and he'll cut it nice and thick
if that's what you want.

Miche

--
In the monastery office --
Before enlightenment: fetch mail, shuffle paper
After enlightenment: fetch mail, shuffle paper

On Sep 9, 12:42?am, "Gregory Morrow"
> wrote:
> cybercat wrote:
> > "Christine Dabney" > wrote
>
> > > We had Woolworths in Richmond, VA until I left there in 1975. I
> > > credit it with turning me on to over easy eggs. Before then, I used
> > > to like my eggs cooked dry....
>
> > What I remember is being a little girl (maybe 1st grade) in Baltimore, and
> > Woolworths had balloons hanging all around the lunch counter and if you
> > ordered a banana split, they popped a balloon to see how much you had
> > to pay for it. It ranged from a penny to 49 cents. This was what my sister
> > and I would do after the 35-cent matinee at the Arcade Theater. She was
> > three years older, and we were alone, having walked together from our
> house
> > around the corner. (This was maybe 1966?)
>
> Hmmm...now at this "Arcade Theater" didn't they do the price thingy with
> condoms...???
>
> ;---p
>
> --
> Best
> Greg

i marinate my meat.

On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 11:01:58 +1200, Miche > wrote:

>In article >,
> George > wrote:
>
>> I think that is because the "TV generation" has lots of folks who are
>> used to being told what to eat and where to eat it, what to drink, wear,
>> drive etc. So the only things they know about and respond to are the
>> carefully orchestrated choices that have been marketed to them. They
>> don't even think to ask "is there something else?"
>
>It's also the reason a lot of people think cooking from scratch is
>"hard". If you have to do more than open a box mix or pick up the
>phone, it's too much effort.
>

There are people from all generations who either can't or don't like
to cook. My mother was a terrible cook. She roasted meat well (rare
roast beef, succulent leg of lamb, lovely pork roasts) because she
didn't have to fuss with it. She just threw it in the oven, took it
out and made gravy which the kids stirred and stirred and stirred.
Oh, yes, she baked potatoes too. Mom made mashed potatoes, scalloped
potatoes, mac & cheese and spaghetti from a box (later, pizza came in
a box - not frozen) - never, ever from scratch - and she opened cans
of vegetables most of the time. The only vegetables I recall as fresh
were acorn squash (baked again) and ears of corn in the summer. Our
salads were always bibb lettuce (none of that head lettuce crud for
us)tossed with Good Seasons Italian.

The only things I can recall her making from scratch are beef stew and
that American style goulash with ground beef, elbow macaroni and
tomato sauce mentioned in another thread. Everything else, even
cakes, came from a box.

I am a much better cook than my mother, because I was interested in
cooking. My own kids, especially my son, are more creative cooks than
I am.


--

Ham and eggs.
A day's work for the chicken, a lifetime commitment for the pig.

On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 06:15:29 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
> wrote:

>"blake murphy" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 10:58:51 -0400, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>Ward Abbott wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 08:27:40 -0400, Dave Smith
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >I know of 2 of those in the area.
>>>>
>>>> Gee...aren't you the lucky one!
>>>
>>>Fercrissakes you whined that there isn't a butcher shop for 300 miles, or
>>>a
>>>millinery shop, and said that most people are in the same position. Based
>>>on what I have access to that is bullshit. If I have three local butcher
>>>shops within 3 miles of me, everyone else in town does too. If I have
>>>access to 2 millinery stores, everyone around here does too. I suppose
>>>there are a few people around her who don't bother with the real butcher
>>>shop and don't know about them and the millinery stores, and are too dumb
>>>to find them, they may sit around and broadcast their ignorance too.
>>
>> maybe so, but most of the butcher shops i see around here (d.c. area)
>> are halal butchers. honest-to-god butchers that actually cut meat in
>> a stand-alone store are not as common as you might think.
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>
>
>What if we remove the word "halal" and insert "kosher"?
>
even so. i'm not saying they don't exist, i'm saying they are harder
to find than you might think. and metro d.c. isn't exactly the
boonies. like most places, meat in is the grocery store, and they
will do some things for you, but full-service it ain't.

your pal,
blake

blake murphy wrote:
>
>

> >Fercrissakes you whined that there isn't a butcher shop for 300 miles, or a
> >millinery shop, and said that most people are in the same position. Based
> >on what I have access to that is bullshit. If I have three local butcher
> >shops within 3 miles of me, everyone else in town does too. If I have
> >access to 2 millinery stores, everyone around here does too. I suppose
> >there are a few people around her who don't bother with the real butcher
> >shop and don't know about them and the millinery stores, and are too dumb
> >to find them, they may sit around and broadcast their ignorance too.
>
> maybe so, but most of the butcher shops i see around here (d.c. area)
> are halal butchers. honest-to-god butchers that actually cut meat in
> a stand-alone store are not as common as you might think.

What can I say, other than to repeat that I have three of them within 3
miles of me, and I live in a small town. If I go into the city there are
several more. Come to think of it, those three butcher shops are closer
than the nearest grocery store. For some reason, most people just don't
bother going to the local butcher and just get their meat from the grocery
store. Bear in mind that I was responding to Ward's claim that most people
have to travel 300 miles to find a butcher shop. That is just plain
ludicrous.

<sf> wrote
> I am a much better cook than my mother, because I was interested in
> cooking. My own kids, especially my son, are more creative cooks than
> I am.

My mother was a much better baker than cook--she was the first person to
say this, too. She was just more interested in baking. (Personal taste had
something to do with it--she ate pastries every morning for breakfast much
of her life!) I think I am a better cook than my mother was, though she had
a few really great dishes. I am just more interested in cooking. As for
baking,
I don't do it at all. I think of most of the products of it as bad nutrition
and
too caloric on top of it all. But mostly ... it's just not my favorite kind
of food.

On Sun, 9 Sep 2007 15:43:43 -0400, "cybercat" >
wrote:

>
><sf> wrote
>> I am a much better cook than my mother, because I was interested in
>> cooking. My own kids, especially my son, are more creative cooks than
>> I am.
>
>My mother was a much better baker than cook--she was the first person to
>say this, too. She was just more interested in baking. (Personal taste had
>something to do with it--she ate pastries every morning for breakfast much
>of her life!) I think I am a better cook than my mother was, though she had
>a few really great dishes. I am just more interested in cooking.
>
Yes! My daughter is the baker and son uses the stovetop. DD tends to
follow recipes, son cooks by the seat of his pants and even his flops
taste great.
--

History is a vast early warning system
Norman Cousins

charley wrote:

> On Sep 9, 12:42?am, "Gregory Morrow"
> > wrote:
> > cybercat wrote:
> > > "Christine Dabney" > wrote
> >
> > > > We had Woolworths in Richmond, VA until I left there in 1975. I
> > > > credit it with turning me on to over easy eggs. Before then, I used
> > > > to like my eggs cooked dry....
> >
> > > What I remember is being a little girl (maybe 1st grade) in Baltimore,
and
> > > Woolworths had balloons hanging all around the lunch counter and if
you
> > > ordered a banana split, they popped a balloon to see how much you had
> > > to pay for it. It ranged from a penny to 49 cents. This was what my
sister
> > > and I would do after the 35-cent matinee at the Arcade Theater. She
was
> > > three years older, and we were alone, having walked together from our
> > house
> > > around the corner. (This was maybe 1966?)
> >
> > Hmmm...now at this "Arcade Theater" didn't they do the price thingy with
> > condoms...???
> >
> > ;---p
> >
> > --
> > Best
> > Greg
>
> i marinate my meat.


Cybercat up there likes to "beat" mine...

;---p

--
Best
Greg

Baby, you enhance my meat.

If I came into a lot of money, I would do a lot of silly things. I
thought about this today, on my way home from work. I drove past a
street called Gayola Place, which has maybe 60 houses on it. I
thought it's be funny (it'd only cost about $30) to send a letter to
every house on the street that simply said, "HAHA, you live on a
street named GAYOLA. That sounds like a lubricant for anal
intercourse." I would do it just a few days before the National Night
Out Against Crime block parties.
http://www.nationaltownwatch.org/nno/
It would give those folks something to puzzle about.
Why would I do something so absurd and nonsensical? Just because it's
absurd and nonsensical. Like the guy who was stealing the lawn
flamingos and demanding ransoms, referring to the flamingos as
"pelicans." That guy was cool.

I'm not insane. I'm really not.

--Bryan

<sf> wrote in message
>
>>> I am a much better cook than my mother, because I was interested in
>>> cooking. My own kids, especially my son, are more creative cooks than
>>> I am.
>>
My mother is one who thinks she's a good cook, but the sheer quantity of
boxes in her kitchen make her out a liar. She is capable of being a very
good cook, but ewwww, the things she makes. We had canned veggies always,
and a whole lotta Helper.<shudder> I'll probably live forever from all the
preservatives I ate in my youth!LOL

I'm a far better cook, if only because I start with far better ingredients.
When I visited last April, I gained 5 lbs., and that was with trying to make
the healthiest choices possible. Most of what was in her cupboard didn't
even register as food on my radar.

Lynne A

<sf> wrote
>>
> Yes! My daughter is the baker and son uses the stovetop. DD tends to
> follow recipes, son cooks by the seat of his pants and even his flops
> taste great.

You are a very fortunate woman!

"Gregory Morrow" > wrote in message
...
>
> charley wrote:
>
>> On Sep 9, 12:42?am, "Gregory Morrow"
>> > wrote:
>> > cybercat wrote:
>> > > "Christine Dabney" > wrote
>> >
>> > > > We had Woolworths in Richmond, VA until I left there in 1975. I
>> > > > credit it with turning me on to over easy eggs. Before then, I
>> > > > used
>> > > > to like my eggs cooked dry....
>> >
>> > > What I remember is being a little girl (maybe 1st grade) in
>> > > Baltimore,
> and
>> > > Woolworths had balloons hanging all around the lunch counter and if
> you
>> > > ordered a banana split, they popped a balloon to see how much you had
>> > > to pay for it. It ranged from a penny to 49 cents. This was what my
> sister
>> > > and I would do after the 35-cent matinee at the Arcade Theater. She
> was
>> > > three years older, and we were alone, having walked together from our
>> > house
>> > > around the corner. (This was maybe 1966?)
>> >
>> > Hmmm...now at this "Arcade Theater" didn't they do the price thingy
>> > with
>> > condoms...???
>> >
>> > ;---p
>> >
>> > --
>> > Best
>> > Greg
>>
>> i marinate my meat.
>
>
> Cybercat up there likes to "beat" mine...
>
> ;---p

Ugh, you foul, diseased, ill-smelling old monkey. Dream on.

Miche > wrote:

> (Victor Sack) wrote:
> >
> > There are still Woolworth stores in Germany, with a couple of branches
> > here in Düsseldorf, but I have no idea if there are any lunch counters
> > there (I suspect not), as it never occurs to me to go inside. I think
> > I've been there only once in the past 20 years or so.
>
> Woolworths is a chain of supermarkets in NZ, these days. I remember one
> as a department store when I was younger.

Here, they are still department stores, with no food section, as far as
I know. I remember that, in England, many years ago, they did have food
halls of sorts, but not anything remotely resembling lunch counters. I
wonder if various Woolworths of yesteryear have anything at all to do
with the present ones in different countries, or to each other. Maybe
they are completely unrelated companies now.

Victor

On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 21:34:36 -0000, Bobo Bonobo® >
wrote:

> I
>thought it's be funny (it'd only cost about $30) to send a letter to
>every house on the street that simply said, "HAHA, you live on a
>street named GAYOLA

How do you react to Enola ***?
--

History is a vast early warning system
Norman Cousins

cyberSCAT wrote:

> "Gregory Morrow" > wrote in
message
> ...
> >
> > charley wrote:
> >
> >> On Sep 9, 12:42?am, "Gregory Morrow"
> >> > wrote:
> >> > cybercat wrote:
> >> > > "Christine Dabney" > wrote
> >> >
> >> > > > We had Woolworths in Richmond, VA until I left there in 1975. I
> >> > > > credit it with turning me on to over easy eggs. Before then, I
> >> > > > used
> >> > > > to like my eggs cooked dry....
> >> >
> >> > > What I remember is being a little girl (maybe 1st grade) in
> >> > > Baltimore,
> > and
> >> > > Woolworths had balloons hanging all around the lunch counter and if
> > you
> >> > > ordered a banana split, they popped a balloon to see how much you
had
> >> > > to pay for it. It ranged from a penny to 49 cents. This was what my
> > sister
> >> > > and I would do after the 35-cent matinee at the Arcade Theater. She
> > was
> >> > > three years older, and we were alone, having walked together from
our
> >> > house
> >> > > around the corner. (This was maybe 1966?)
> >> >
> >> > Hmmm...now at this "Arcade Theater" didn't they do the price thingy
> >> > with
> >> > condoms...???
> >> >
> >> > ;---p
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Best
> >> > Greg
> >>
> >> i marinate my meat.
> >
> >
> > Cybercat up there likes to "beat" mine...
> >
> > ;---p
>
> Ugh, you foul, diseased, ill-smelling old monkey. Dream on.
>


BWAHAHAAAAAAA..........!!!!!!!!!

--
Best
Greg

On Sep 9, 4:24 pm, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 21:34:36 -0000, Bobo Bonobo® >
> wrote:
>
> > I
> >thought it's be funny (it'd only cost about $30) to send a letter to
> >every house on the street that simply said, "HAHA, you live on a
> >street named GAYOLA
>
> How do you react to Enola ***?

See? To me the really funny thing is that neighbors would be
seriously itching to know if their other neighbors got one of those
letters, but how could they find out without broaching the
uncomfortable topic of "anal intercourse"? I have been laughing about
this on and off over the past couple of hours. I almost wish that I
hadn't posted about it, and had just done it, but I really can't
afford to spend the money.

--Bryan

On Sep 7, 1:05 am, sf wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:14:03 -0400, jjfjksdf
>
>
>
>
>
> > wrote:
> >My wife had to work tonight so I went to walmart after
> >work to grab something for supper. I saw a nice looking
> >t-bone and bought it. I grilled it up and made a huge pan
> >of onions and mushrooms. Cooked perfect. Cut my first bite
> >and knew something was wrong. It was way too juicy and
> >tasted like sal****er was squishing out as I chewed. I
> >finished it but was very unpleased. Then I dug the wrapper
> >out of the trash. "Enhanced with 10% solution" The solution
> >turned out to be sodium phosphate, salt and "natural flavor".
> >I cannot believe that anyone would ever want this crap in
> >their steak. What kind of idiots buy this stuff? (I know me)
> >It was the worst steak I have ever bought in my life. Guess
> >it's my own fault for buying meat at walmart.
>
> >Just had to rant...
>
> Good god... food is called "enhanced" now? I thought that term was
> limited to semiprecious gemstones up to now.
>
> <sigh>
>
And in plastic surgery.

On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 22:38:23 -0000, Bobo Bonobo® >
wrote:

>On Sep 9, 4:24 pm, sf wrote:
>> On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 21:34:36 -0000, Bobo Bonobo® >
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I
>> >thought it's be funny (it'd only cost about $30) to send a letter to
>> >every house on the street that simply said, "HAHA, you live on a
>> >street named GAYOLA
>>
>> How do you react to Enola ***?
>
>See? To me the really funny thing is that neighbors would be
>seriously itching to know if their other neighbors got one of those
>letters, but how could they find out without broaching the
>uncomfortable topic of "anal intercourse"? I have been laughing about
>this on and off over the past couple of hours. I almost wish that I
>hadn't posted about it, and had just done it, but I really can't
>afford to spend the money.
>
Personally, I think it would be a waste of money anyway. Most people
would toss it in recycling and not think twice about it.

--

History is a vast early warning system
Norman Cousins

On Sep 9, 4:57 pm, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 22:38:23 -0000, Bobo Bonobo® >
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >On Sep 9, 4:24 pm, sf wrote:
> >> On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 21:34:36 -0000, Bobo Bonobo® >
> >> wrote:
>
> >> > I
> >> >thought it's be funny (it'd only cost about $30) to send a letter to
> >> >every house on the street that simply said, "HAHA, you live on a
> >> >street named GAYOLA
>
> >> How do you react to Enola ***?
>
> >See? To me the really funny thing is that neighbors would be
> >seriously itching to know if their other neighbors got one of those
> >letters, but how could they find out without broaching the
> >uncomfortable topic of "anal intercourse"? I have been laughing about
> >this on and off over the past couple of hours. I almost wish that I
> >hadn't posted about it, and had just done it, but I really can't
> >afford to spend the money.
>
> Personally, I think it would be a waste of money anyway. Most people
> would toss it in recycling and not think twice about it.
>
Ah, but some would not do that. The following is something I posted
to alt.punk about 7 years ago:


I would like to find a freshly hit roadkill possum, wrap it in a baby
blanket with its face covered by the blanket, and put it in a
stroller.
Then I would get a female confederate to push the stroller around the
mall,
in the vicinity of a store that had multiple entrances, until she sees
a
good victim. She could look in panic at some stranger--a woman in her
30s
would be best--and say very quickly, "Oh my god! I left my purse in
the
restroom. Could you watch my baby for just a second? Thanks." Not
waiting
for a response, she leaves the stroller and runs into the store, and
out the
other doors, into the parking lot, into her car, and away. The woman
who
was asked to watch the baby would be irritated, but would feel obliged
to
watch the baby anyway. As time passed, she would wonder where the
hell the
mother was. Eventually, she would pull back the baby blanket that was
swaddling the roadkill possun, expecting to see the cute cherubic face
of a
human infant, but instead being confronted by the face of the roadkill
possum. She would very likely scream, and others might well come over
to
try to assist her. Imagine the scene. Her explaining how the woman
asked
her to watch her baby...
Me and my buddies could be sitting on benches nearby, witnessing the
hilarious spectacle.


--Bryan

On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 18:30:56 -0700, Bobo Bonobo® >
wrote:

>On Sep 9, 4:57 pm, sf wrote:
>> On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 22:38:23 -0000, Bobo Bonobo® >
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> >On Sep 9, 4:24 pm, sf wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 21:34:36 -0000, Bobo Bonobo® >
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> > I
>> >> >thought it's be funny (it'd only cost about $30) to send a letter to
>> >> >every house on the street that simply said, "HAHA, you live on a
>> >> >street named GAYOLA
>>
>> >> How do you react to Enola ***?
>>
>> >See? To me the really funny thing is that neighbors would be
>> >seriously itching to know if their other neighbors got one of those
>> >letters, but how could they find out without broaching the
>> >uncomfortable topic of "anal intercourse"? I have been laughing about
>> >this on and off over the past couple of hours. I almost wish that I
>> >hadn't posted about it, and had just done it, but I really can't
>> >afford to spend the money.
>>
>> Personally, I think it would be a waste of money anyway. Most people
>> would toss it in recycling and not think twice about it.
>>
>Ah, but some would not do that. The following is something I posted
>to alt.punk about 7 years ago:
>
>
>I would like to find a freshly hit roadkill possum, wrap it in a baby
>blanket with its face covered by the blanket, and put it in a
>stroller.
>Then I would get a female confederate to push the stroller around the
>mall,
>in the vicinity of a store that had multiple entrances, until she sees
>a
>good victim. She could look in panic at some stranger--a woman in her
>30s
>would be best--and say very quickly, "Oh my god! I left my purse in
>the
>restroom. Could you watch my baby for just a second? Thanks." Not
>waiting
>for a response, she leaves the stroller and runs into the store, and
>out the
>other doors, into the parking lot, into her car, and away. The woman
>who
>was asked to watch the baby would be irritated, but would feel obliged
>to
>watch the baby anyway. As time passed, she would wonder where the
>hell the
>mother was. Eventually, she would pull back the baby blanket that was
>swaddling the roadkill possun, expecting to see the cute cherubic face
>of a
>human infant, but instead being confronted by the face of the roadkill
>possum. She would very likely scream, and others might well come over
>to
>try to assist her. Imagine the scene. Her explaining how the woman
>asked
>her to watch her baby...
>Me and my buddies could be sitting on benches nearby, witnessing the
>hilarious spectacle.
>
>
I have only one question: What makes you think that's even remotely
funny? Did you have some kind of retarded childhood?
--

History is a vast early warning system
Norman Cousins

Victor Sack wrote:
> Here, they are still department stores, with no food section, as far
> as I know. I remember that, in England, many years ago, they did
> have food halls of sorts, but not anything remotely resembling lunch
> counters. I wonder if various Woolworths of yesteryear have anything
> at all to do with the present ones in different countries, or to each
> other. Maybe they are completely unrelated companies now.

Many years ago they had a cafe. I am not sure if they do now. They still
have stores in most towns

sf wrote:
> I have only one question: What makes you think that's even remotely
> funny? Did you have some kind of retarded childhood?

Agreed. I think practical jokes are cruel

On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 13:22:24 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>blake murphy wrote:
>>
>>
>
>> >Fercrissakes you whined that there isn't a butcher shop for 300 miles, or a
>> >millinery shop, and said that most people are in the same position. Based
>> >on what I have access to that is bullshit. If I have three local butcher
>> >shops within 3 miles of me, everyone else in town does too. If I have
>> >access to 2 millinery stores, everyone around here does too. I suppose
>> >there are a few people around her who don't bother with the real butcher
>> >shop and don't know about them and the millinery stores, and are too dumb
>> >to find them, they may sit around and broadcast their ignorance too.
>>
>> maybe so, but most of the butcher shops i see around here (d.c. area)
>> are halal butchers. honest-to-god butchers that actually cut meat in
>> a stand-alone store are not as common as you might think.
>
>What can I say, other than to repeat that I have three of them within 3
>miles of me, and I live in a small town. If I go into the city there are
>several more. Come to think of it, those three butcher shops are closer
>than the nearest grocery store. For some reason, most people just don't
>bother going to the local butcher and just get their meat from the grocery
>store. Bear in mind that I was responding to Ward's claim that most people
>have to travel 300 miles to find a butcher shop. That is just plain
>ludicrous.

people live in different places, dave. they're not all the same as
the place you live.

your pal,
blake

On Sun, 9 Sep 2007 15:43:43 -0400, "cybercat" >
wrote:

>
><sf> wrote
>> I am a much better cook than my mother, because I was interested in
>> cooking. My own kids, especially my son, are more creative cooks than
>> I am.
>
>My mother was a much better baker than cook--she was the first person to
>say this, too. She was just more interested in baking. (Personal taste had
>something to do with it--she ate pastries every morning for breakfast much
>of her life!) I think I am a better cook than my mother was, though she had
>a few really great dishes. I am just more interested in cooking. As for
>baking,
>I don't do it at all. I think of most of the products of it as bad nutrition
>and
>too caloric on top of it all. But mostly ... it's just not my favorite kind
>of food.
>
i don't bake, either. i won't venture to say how good a cook i am
(though i think i do beat my mother), but baking seems to be more
difficult to me.

all the talk of fresh bread here is making me envious, though.

your pal,
blake

"blake murphy" > wrote
> i don't bake, either. i won't venture to say how good a cook i am
> (though i think i do beat my mother), but baking seems to be more
> difficult to me.
>
> all the talk of fresh bread here is making me envious, though.

Yes, I have to say, though it is true fresh baked goods are not my
favorite foods, they are wonderful. One reason they are not my
favorite is because I will eat things like fresh baked bread or cinnamon
rolls and such until my ASS gets as big as a mack truck if it is around!

blake murphy wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Sep 2007 15:43:43 -0400, "cybercat" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>> <sf> wrote
>>> I am a much better cook than my mother, because I was interested in
>>> cooking. My own kids, especially my son, are more creative cooks
>>> than I am.
>>
>> My mother was a much better baker than cook--she was the first
>> person to say this, too. She was just more interested in baking.
>> (Personal taste had something to do with it--she ate pastries every
>> morning for breakfast much of her life!) I think I am a better cook
>> than my mother was, though she had a few really great dishes. I am
>> just more interested in cooking. As for baking,
>> I don't do it at all. I think of most of the products of it as bad
>> nutrition and
>> too caloric on top of it all. But mostly ... it's just not my
>> favorite kind of food.
>>
> i don't bake, either. i won't venture to say how good a cook i am
> (though i think i do beat my mother), but baking seems to be more
> difficult to me.
>
> all the talk of fresh bread here is making me envious, though.

You could get an automatic bread maker

cybercat wrote:
> "blake murphy" > wrote
>> i don't bake, either. i won't venture to say how good a cook i am
>> (though i think i do beat my mother), but baking seems to be more
>> difficult to me.
>>
>> all the talk of fresh bread here is making me envious, though.
>
> Yes, I have to say, though it is true fresh baked goods are not my
> favorite foods, they are wonderful. One reason they are not my
> favorite is because I will eat things like fresh baked bread or
> cinnamon rolls and such until my ASS gets as big as a mack truck if
> it is around!

Yep I know what you mean. I make bread regularly but I mostly stick to low
carb)

On Sep 10, 2:03 am, "Ophelia" > wrote:
> sf wrote:
> > I have only one question: What makes you think that's even remotely
> > funny? Did you have some kind of retarded childhood?

A lot of people that I know think it's very funny as well.
>
> Agreed. I think practical jokes are cruel

Some can be, but the "roadkill possum" one would give the target
person (To you, victim) something to talk about for the rest of her
life.

The following, also posted several years ago is more on topic for a
cooking group.
I bet you won't think that it is funny either. At least one person
who read it on either alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian or alt.food.vegan
replied, "I have a good idea. Why don't you cut off your hands and
eat them so no one has to read your stupid dribble again."
_______________________________________________-

You've heard of omnivorous
You've heard of vegetarianism
You've heard of vegan
You've heard of fruitarian
But now, straight from the twisted brain of yours truly, here comes
Amputarianism. Amputarianism fits in between omnivorousness and
vegetarianism.
You can eat meat, but only if the animal is not killed to produce the
meat. You are allowed to eat animals that have died of natural
causes, but also parts of animals that have been removed from the
animal in such a way that it does not cause the death of the animal.
Example: Chicken wings. Chickens really have no use for wings, since
they don't fly anyway. An amputarian can enjoy the delicious flavor
of Buffalo-style wings, guilt-free. Egg laying chickens don't really
*need* legs either. Heck, they just sit in a cage all day anyway.
Voila! drumsticks!
Chickens are not the only animals that can do fine w/o certain body
parts. Domestic turkeys don't need wings either. Pigs should be able
to get along fine w/ one peg leg. Can you say "HAM"???? The ears on
pigs, cattle, sheep, etc. are completely superfluous in an environment
where there are humans to protect them from predators. Tails too can
be bobbed to make fine soup bones.
Believe it or not, liver tissue grows back if a portion of it is
surgically removed. Mmmmm, liver and onions.
Amputarianism, remember, you heard it here first.
_________________________________________________

--Bryan

On Sep 10, 2:03 am, "Ophelia" > wrote:
> sf wrote:
> > I have only one question: What makes you think that's even remotely
> > funny? Did you have some kind of retarded childhood?
>
> Agreed. I think practical jokes are cruel

Awww. They just aired the Simpson's episode where people got gently
humiliated. Remember Marge being hot for Chad Sexington, the Burley
paper towels guy?
Homer gets hypnotized...

Maybe you guys are too grown up. We're all going to die really soon
in the context of time. Have a nice day

--Bryan

sf wrote:

> I am a much better cook than my mother, because I was interested in
> cooking. My own kids, especially my son, are more creative cooks than
> I am.

It will be a better world, if each generation improves over the last
generation. I hope my children are better cooks, better parents, better
artists and better neighbors.

Becca

"Becca" > wrote in message
...
> sf wrote:
>
>> I am a much better cook than my mother, because I was interested in
>> cooking. My own kids, especially my son, are more creative cooks than
>> I am.
>
> It will be a better world, if each generation improves over the last
> generation. I hope my children are better cooks, better parents, better
> artists and better neighbors.
>
You are the kind of person who *should* have children. There are actually
mothers who resent the success of their children and/or compete with them.
(Not in my family .. but I have seen it among my friends.)

cybercoitus wrote:


> There are actually
> mothers who resent the success of their children and/or compete with them.
> (Not in my family .. but I have seen it among my friends.)


"Before inserting the diaphragm into the uterine cavity, it is
suggested that the spring - loaded ring of the device be coated with a
vagicide, e.g. a contraceptive foam or jelly; Koromex, Emko, and
Ramses are reputable brands...

WARNING!: Do NOT insert the diaphragm backwards! If this is done the
male, during the coital act, will have to engage the female in the
"doggy style" position of intercourse...naturally if the hymen is
already broken this may not result in a problem."

- Dr. G. Morrow's _Marriage Manual For Young Moderns_; Kinsey
Institute Press, Bloomington IN, 1954.

;--p


--
Best
Greg

blake murphy wrote:
>
> >What can I say, other than to repeat that I have three of them within 3
> >miles of me, and I live in a small town. If I go into the city there are
> >several more. Come to think of it, those three butcher shops are closer
> >than the nearest grocery store. For some reason, most people just don't
> >bother going to the local butcher and just get their meat from the grocery
> >store. Bear in mind that I was responding to Ward's claim that most people
> >have to travel 300 miles to find a butcher shop. That is just plain
> >ludicrous.
>
> people live in different places, dave. they're not all the same as
> the place you live.


I guess I have to say it again. I live in a small town and have three
butcher shops within 3 miles, and lots more in the nearby cities and towns.
So I have a little trouble with the claim that "most people" have to go 300
miles or more to find one.

"blake murphy" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 13:22:24 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>>blake murphy wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>
>>> >Fercrissakes you whined that there isn't a butcher shop for 300 miles,
>>> >or a
>>> >millinery shop, and said that most people are in the same position.
>>> >Based
>>> >on what I have access to that is bullshit. If I have three local
>>> >butcher
>>> >shops within 3 miles of me, everyone else in town does too. If I have
>>> >access to 2 millinery stores, everyone around here does too. I suppose
>>> >there are a few people around her who don't bother with the real
>>> >butcher
>>> >shop and don't know about them and the millinery stores, and are too
>>> >dumb
>>> >to find them, they may sit around and broadcast their ignorance too.
>>>
>>> maybe so, but most of the butcher shops i see around here (d.c. area)
>>> are halal butchers. honest-to-god butchers that actually cut meat in
>>> a stand-alone store are not as common as you might think.
>>
>>What can I say, other than to repeat that I have three of them within 3
>>miles of me, and I live in a small town. If I go into the city there are
>>several more. Come to think of it, those three butcher shops are closer
>>than the nearest grocery store. For some reason, most people just don't
>>bother going to the local butcher and just get their meat from the grocery
>>store. Bear in mind that I was responding to Ward's claim that most
>>people
>>have to travel 300 miles to find a butcher shop. That is just plain
>>ludicrous.
>
> people live in different places, dave. they're not all the same as
> the place you live.
>
> your pal,
> blake


The original claim was that MOST PEOPLE HAVE TO TRAVEL 300 MILES for a
butcher shop. Let's use lots of white space to make this easy.

MOST PEOPLE live in the largest population centers, not small towns.
Otherwise, the small towns would be large population centers.


With me so far?

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>
>
> The original claim was that MOST PEOPLE HAVE TO TRAVEL 300 MILES for a
> butcher shop. Let's use lots of white space to make this easy.
>
> MOST PEOPLE live in the largest population centers, not small towns.
> Otherwise, the small towns would be large population centers.
>
> With me so far?


Maybe we should try a different approach. I don't know the area very well
and haven't walked past a butcher store. Therefore there aren't any within
300 miles and it is the same for most people
??

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>
>>
>> The original claim was that MOST PEOPLE HAVE TO TRAVEL 300 MILES for a
>> butcher shop. Let's use lots of white space to make this easy.
>>
>> MOST PEOPLE live in the largest population centers, not small towns.
>> Otherwise, the small towns would be large population centers.
>>
>> With me so far?
>
>
> Maybe we should try a different approach. I don't know the area very well
> and haven't walked past a butcher store. Therefore there aren't any within
> 300 miles and it is the same for most people
> ??


Philosophy: Intro to Logic 101

Not.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> blake murphy wrote:
>>
>> >What can I say, other than to repeat that I have three of them within 3
>> >miles of me, and I live in a small town. If I go into the city there are
>> >several more. Come to think of it, those three butcher shops are closer
>> >than the nearest grocery store. For some reason, most people just don't
>> >bother going to the local butcher and just get their meat from the
>> >grocery
>> >store. Bear in mind that I was responding to Ward's claim that most
>> >people
>> >have to travel 300 miles to find a butcher shop. That is just plain
>> >ludicrous.
>>
>> people live in different places, dave. they're not all the same as
>> the place you live.
>
>
> I guess I have to say it again. I live in a small town and have three
> butcher shops within 3 miles, and lots more in the nearby cities and
> towns.
> So I have a little trouble with the claim that "most people" have to go
> 300
> miles or more to find one.

What makes you "most people?" You're being incredibly stupid.