I find this very hard to believe. Thump off the salt? Since when
does McDonald's salt each burger individually and why would an
idividual be charged for that anyway? Usually any problem with a
large company is lodged against the company because the company has
deeper pockets than an individual employee.

<zipping lips>
````````````````````````````

On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 19:12:40 +0200, ChattyCathy
> wrote:

>http://www.news24.com/News24/World/N...180299,00.html
>
><quote>
>Jailed - for over-salty burger
>09/09/2007 22:01 - (SA)
>
>Union City, Georgia - A McDonald's employee spent a night in jail and is
>facing criminal charges because a police officer's burger was too salty
>- so salty that he says it made him sick.
>
>Kendra Bull was arrested on Friday, charged with misdemeanour reckless
>conduct and freed on $1 000 bail.
>
>Bull, 20, said she accidentally spilled salt on hamburger meat and told
>her supervisor and a co-worker, who "tried to thump the salt off".
>
>On her break, she ate a burger made with the salty meat. "It didn't make
>me sick," Bull told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.
>
>But then Police Officer Wendell Adams got a burger made with the
>oversalted meat, and he returned a short time later and told the manager
>it made him sick.
>
>Bull admitted spilling salt on the meat, and Adams took her outside and
>questioned her, she said.
>
>"If it was too salty, why did (Adams) not take one bite and throw it
>away?" said Bull, who has worked at the restaurant for five months. She
>said she did not know a police officer got one of the salty burgers
>because she could not see the drive-through window from her work area.
>
>Police sent samples of the burger to the state crime lab for tests.
>
>City public information officer George Louth said Bull was charged
>because she served the burger "without regards to the well-being of
>anyone who might consume it".
>
></quote>

--

History is a vast early warning system
Norman Cousins

On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 12:36:03 -0500, "jmcquown"
> wrote:

>What gets me about this is the article says, "Bull, 20, said she
>accidentally spilled salt on hamburger meat and *told her supervisor* and a
>co-worker, who "tried to thump the salt off"." Why didn't they chuck the
>meat, write it up as a loss and start over??

How many people smell a fish?
--

History is a vast early warning system
Norman Cousins

On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:39:20 -0400, "KW"
<keith_warrennospamatallteldotnet> wrote:

>But then again........I haven't eaten at a McD's in years :-)

I got a sausage McMuffin and coffee there last week.
--

History is a vast early warning system
Norman Cousins

On Sep 10, 1:12?pm, ChattyCathy > wrote:
> http://www.news24.com/News24/World/N...180299,00.html
>
> <quote>
> Jailed - for over-salty burger
> 09/09/2007 22:01 - (SA)
>
> Union City, Georgia - A McDonald's employee spent a night in jail and is
> facing criminal charges because a police officer's burger was too salty
> - so salty that he says it made him sick.


So has anyone seen a picture of this bozo?

sf wrote:
> I find this very hard to believe. Thump off the salt? Since when
> does McDonald's salt each burger individually and why would an
> idividual be charged for that anyway? Usually any problem with a
> large company is lodged against the company because the company has
> deeper pockets than an individual employee.
>
<shrug>
I just saw it on one of our local news feeds, and thought it was
"interesting". And snopes.com has a link to the story (from another
site) in their "Daily" stuff which they neither support or deny...

http://www.snopes.com/daily/

<quote>
This page features a daily collection of links to news articles and web
sites of interest to readers of our web site. Due to the ephemeral
nature of this type of material, some of the links may expire within a
few days of being posted here. Stories are chosen for inclusion here
purely on the basis of their appeal to our readers; we make no claims
about the reliability of information linked from this page.
</quote>

The link they give is this one:

http://www.azcentral.com/offbeat/art...burger-ON.html


We'll see.

--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

Garlic: the element without which life as we know it would be impossible

"Pete C." > wrote in message
...
> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>
>> "Pete C." > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > KW wrote:
>> >>
>> >> "ChattyCathy" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> > http://www.news24.com/News24/World/N...180299,00.html
>> >> >
>> >> > <quote>
>> >> > Jailed - for over-salty burger
>> >> > 09/09/2007 22:01 - (SA)
>> >> >
>> >> > Union City, Georgia - A McDonald's employee spent a night in jail
>> >> > and
>> >> > is
>> >> > facing criminal charges because a police officer's burger was too
>> >> > salty
>> >> > - so salty that he says it made him sick.
>> >> >
>> >> > Kendra Bull was arrested on Friday, charged with misdemeanour
>> >> > reckless
>> >> > conduct and freed on $1 000 bail.
>> >> >
>> >> > Bull, 20, said she accidentally spilled salt on hamburger meat and
>> >> > told
>> >> > her supervisor and a co-worker, who "tried to thump the salt off".
>> >> >
>> >> > On her break, she ate a burger made with the salty meat. "It didn't
>> >> > make
>> >> > me sick," Bull told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.
>> >> >
>> >> > But then Police Officer Wendell Adams got a burger made with the
>> >> > oversalted meat, and he returned a short time later and told the
>> >> > manager
>> >> > it made him sick.
>> >> >
>> >> > Bull admitted spilling salt on the meat, and Adams took her outside
>> >> > and
>> >> > questioned her, she said.
>> >> >
>> >> > "If it was too salty, why did (Adams) not take one bite and throw it
>> >> > away?" said Bull, who has worked at the restaurant for five months.
>> >> > She
>> >> > said she did not know a police officer got one of the salty burgers
>> >> > because she could not see the drive-through window from her work
>> >> > area.
>> >> >
>> >> > Police sent samples of the burger to the state crime lab for tests.
>> >> >
>> >> > City public information officer George Louth said Bull was charged
>> >> > because she served the burger "without regards to the well-being of
>> >> > anyone who might consume it".
>> >> >
>> >> > </quote>
>> >> > --
>> >> > Cheers
>> >> > Chatty Cathy
>> >> >
>> >> > Garlic: the element without which life as we know it would be
>> >> > impossible
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> If this turns out to be an intentional act, then my position will
>> >> change.
>> >> Based on what is written here, all of the employees should be
>> >> reprimanded
>> >> and possibly fired for serving food that they *knew* was
>> >> tainted.......however....the bigger situation IMHO is good 'ol Barney
>> >> Fife.
>> >> Andy not only needs to take his bullet away, but that officer
>> >> shouldn't
>> >> take
>> >> on a PD role any more intellectually strenuous than a meter maid! I do
>> >> NOT
>> >> want that guy coming to my rescue in a serious situation that might
>> >> require
>> >> logic and reasoning :-)
>> >>
>> >> KW
>> >
>> > Since when does over seasoned equate with tainted?
>>
>> No way to answer that question without making a scene. The cop was right.
>> If
>> he hadn't walked heavy on the situation, the evidence would've been gone.
>> There have been incidents where cops were intentionally given food
>> containing stuff like drain cleaner.
>
> Sorry, the correct procedure would have been to contact his supervisor
> and have them send another unit to investigate, and for him to go the
> nearest hospital for evaluation as soon they had arrived.
>
> His actions clearly show that he was not legitimately concerned for his
> safety and instead chose to abuse his position and falsely arrest an
> innocent McD's employee.

Clearly.

<sf> wrote in message ...
>
> I find this very hard to believe. Thump off the salt? Since when
> does McDonald's salt each burger individually and why would an
> idividual be charged for that anyway? Usually any problem with a
> large company is lodged against the company because the company has
> deeper pockets than an individual employee.
>
> <zipping lips>


If the parent company became involved, it would be a good thing, but it
could not be done instantly. Job #1 is to get the individual employee under
control ASAP. "Control", in this case means stop them from doing their job
until it can be proven that they're not up to something nasty.

"Peter A" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> says...
>> Considering the number of incidents in which cops have been served
>> tainted
>> food, I think the cop was right to be immediately suspicious.
>> Arrest...not
>> so sure, but he had every reason to raise hell.
>>
>>
>
> What "incidents?" I have never heard of a single one.
> Peter Aitken

I know. How does that make you feel?

Which grownup news sources do you read regularly? Not "listen". Not "watch".
Read.

On Sep 10, 3:13?pm, Omelet > wrote:
> In article >,
>
>
>
>
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote:
> > Peter wrote:
> > > "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> > ...
>
> > >> What gets me about this is the article says, "Bull, 20, said she
> > >> accidentally spilled salt on hamburger meat and *told her
> > >> supervisor* and a
> > >> co-worker, who "tried to thump the salt off"." Why didn't they
> > >> chuck the meat, write it up as a loss and start over??
>
> > > If it was fresh burger I made at home, I would have just rinsed it
> > > under the tap.
>
> > Yes, but it wasn't. It was an entire batch of meat for burgers. Should
> > have been tossed once the employee notified her supervisor. They're going
> > to let her take the fall for this???
>
> Maybe she can counter-sue.
>
> The manager knew about the error and should have made the decision to
> toss the ruined meat at that point.
>
> I know I would have!
>
> Or mixed it in with more fresh meat to dilute it out.

If this is the evidence presented no prosecuter would convince me of
anything other than the state and that cop is lying (all cops lie like
a rug).

Story as recounted sounds weird... fast food burger joints don't make
pattys on premises, they're shipped to each location by the case
already formed and frozen... the pattys are salted by the batch with a
shaker just after they're cooked (same as they salt the fries - fries
are typically far saltier than even over salted burgers, and then
gallons of ketchup is added). It would be very easy for mindless fast
food burger cooking airheads to salt twice, even thrice, or to forget
to salt altogether. Personally I don't think these joints should salt
their burgers or their fries (just asking for it - they employ
mentally challenged). Btw, the cop had to literally be a NUMBskull to
consume the entire over salted burger... perhaps that cop ate it donut
fashion (deep throated), just swallow in its entirety in one fell
swoop, no biting, no chewing.

Btw, testing the burger for salt ain't good enough... just like cops
insist on blood tests for alcohol they'd have to have performed a
blood sodium test to have a case, and stomach pumped too ... there's
no proof that cop ever ate a burger... had they pumped that cops
stomach they'd likely discover a gallon of salty semen

Sheldon

Pete C. wrote:
> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>
>>>> "ChattyCathy" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> http://www.news24.com/News24/World/N...180299,00.html
>>>>>
>>>>> <quote>
>>>>> Jailed - for over-salty burger
>>>>> 09/09/2007 22:01 - (SA)
>>>>>
>>>>> Union City, Georgia - A McDonald's employee spent a night in jail
>>>>> and is
>>>>> facing criminal charges because a police officer's burger was too
>>>>> salty - so salty that he says it made him sick.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Since when does over seasoned equate with tainted?
>>
>> No way to answer that question without making a scene. The cop was
>> right. If he hadn't walked heavy on the situation, the evidence
>> would've been gone. There have been incidents where cops were
>> intentionally given food containing stuff like drain cleaner.
>
Why in the hell would you make such a statement? The burger was sold
through the drive-thru window. The employee already said she didn't know he
was a cop. In my experience, no one working the drive-thru pays much, if
any, attention to who is buying the food, other than to take the money and
hand out the food.

And by your reasoning the employee would have had to have *known* this cop
was coming through the drive-thru at a specified time in order to have a
"tainted" burger (drain cleaner, pot, whatever) on hand to give to him.
What if he'd decided to order a chicken sandwich instead? Your position
that he acted appropriately in hauling her out, questioning her and
arresting her is ridiculous.

> Sorry, the correct procedure would have been to contact his supervisor
> and have them send another unit to investigate, and for him to go the
> nearest hospital for evaluation as soon they had arrived.
>
> His actions clearly show that he was not legitimately concerned for
> his safety and instead chose to abuse his position and falsely arrest
> an innocent McD's employee.

I totally agree.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> Pete C. wrote:
>> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>
>>>>> "ChattyCathy" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> http://www.news24.com/News24/World/N...180299,00.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <quote>
>>>>>> Jailed - for over-salty burger
>>>>>> 09/09/2007 22:01 - (SA)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Union City, Georgia - A McDonald's employee spent a night in jail
>>>>>> and is
>>>>>> facing criminal charges because a police officer's burger was too
>>>>>> salty - so salty that he says it made him sick.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Since when does over seasoned equate with tainted?
>>>
>>> No way to answer that question without making a scene. The cop was
>>> right. If he hadn't walked heavy on the situation, the evidence
>>> would've been gone. There have been incidents where cops were
>>> intentionally given food containing stuff like drain cleaner.
>>
> Why in the hell would you make such a statement? The burger was sold
> through the drive-thru window. The employee already said she didn't know
> he
> was a cop. In my experience, no one working the drive-thru pays much, if
> any, attention to who is buying the food, other than to take the money and
> hand out the food.
>
> And by your reasoning the employee would have had to have *known* this cop
> was coming through the drive-thru at a specified time in order to have a
> "tainted" burger (drain cleaner, pot, whatever) on hand to give to him.
> What if he'd decided to order a chicken sandwich instead? Your position
> that he acted appropriately in hauling her out, questioning her and
> arresting her is ridiculous.


Let's take this a step at a time. In this country, there have been a number
of incidents where cops have been served tainted food, some of it laced with
dangerous stuff like drain cleaner.

True or false? One step at a time.

True or false?

Peter A wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>> Considering the number of incidents in which cops have been served
>> tainted food, I think the cop was right to be immediately
>> suspicious. Arrest...not so sure, but he had every reason to raise
>> hell.
>>
>
> What "incidents?" I have never heard of a single one.

Neither have I. And the employee couldn't possibly have known a cop was
going to drive up at that particular moment and have a "tainted" burger on
hand just to give to him. As I said in a previous reply, what if he'd
ordered a chicken sandwich instead? Or a salad?

Even if she *did* know he always came through at a specific time and always
ordered a burger and wanted (for some weird reason) to do harm to him... was
there a guarantee she'd be working the drive-thru window that day? I've
never worked at McDonalds, but seems to me he'd have had to know *her*
schedule if you want to make such a claim stick. I'm pretty sure they
rotate who works the front registers and who works the drive-thru on any
given day/shift.

Jill

sf wrote:
> I find this very hard to believe. Thump off the salt? Since when
> does McDonald's salt each burger individually and why would an
> idividual be charged for that anyway? Usually any problem with a
> large company is lodged against the company because the company has
> deeper pockets than an individual employee.
>
There was some speculation earlier in this thread (granted, we're all
speculating) that maybe she was on her way to the french fry area with a
shaker of salt and the top came off and spilled on the burger patties. Who
knows?

Jill
>
> On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 19:12:40 +0200, ChattyCathy
> > wrote:
>
>> http://www.news24.com/News24/World/N...180299,00.html
>>
>> <quote>
>> Jailed - for over-salty burger
>> 09/09/2007 22:01 - (SA)
>>
>> Union City, Georgia - A McDonald's employee spent a night in jail
>> and is facing criminal charges because a police officer's burger was
>> too salty - so salty that he says it made him sick.
>>
>> Kendra Bull was arrested on Friday, charged with misdemeanour
>> reckless conduct and freed on $1 000 bail.
>>
>> Bull, 20, said she accidentally spilled salt on hamburger meat and
>> told her supervisor and a co-worker, who "tried to thump the salt
>> off".
>>
>> On her break, she ate a burger made with the salty meat. "It didn't
>> make me sick," Bull told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.
>>
>> But then Police Officer Wendell Adams got a burger made with the
>> oversalted meat, and he returned a short time later and told the
>> manager it made him sick.
>>
>> Bull admitted spilling salt on the meat, and Adams took her outside
>> and questioned her, she said.
>>
>> "If it was too salty, why did (Adams) not take one bite and throw it
>> away?" said Bull, who has worked at the restaurant for five months.
>> She said she did not know a police officer got one of the salty
>> burgers because she could not see the drive-through window from her
>> work area.
>>
>> Police sent samples of the burger to the state crime lab for tests.
>>
>> City public information officer George Louth said Bull was charged
>> because she served the burger "without regards to the well-being of
>> anyone who might consume it".
>>
>> </quote>

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> Peter A wrote:
>> In article >,
>> says...
>>> Considering the number of incidents in which cops have been served
>>> tainted food, I think the cop was right to be immediately
>>> suspicious. Arrest...not so sure, but he had every reason to raise
>>> hell.
>>>
>>
>> What "incidents?" I have never heard of a single one.
>
> Neither have I.


This incident did not specifically target cops, but several others have,
according to those arrested. If I have time, I'll do some digging and find
them for you. Or, if you prefer, you can continue to defy logic by saying
that because you never heard of something, it never happened.

Burger King Employee Admits Poisoning Food

An 18-year old former Burger King employee told a Rochester court this week
how he and two other teens contaminated food served at a Thruway restaurant
over an eight month period. Daniel Musson admitted he was responsible for
adding oven cleaner and spit to a Whopper sandwich that so sickened a
sheriff's deputy that an investigation into operations at the Scottsdale
Thruway Burger King (photo below) was begun in May. That investigation
showed that teen employees at the eatery routinely added urine, human spit,
caustic oven cleaner, and Comet cleaner with bleach to Whoppers, fries and
other food served to customers at the restaurant. Questions to the
restaurant by the Lockport Home Page have gone unanswered.

Mr. Musson described in court papers how a teen girl took a Whopper sandwich
into a restroom, said she urinated on it, and then placed it for sale to a
customer. Musson struck a deal with prosecutors to testify against two
other teens. His sentencing is set for November 29th. Burger King is not
revealing to the Lockport Page if any of its employees charged with the
poisoning have been tested for diseases such as the AIDS virus which are
transmitted through bodily fluids. (10/6/00)

On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 11:23:10 -0500, "jmcquown"
> wrote:

>There was some speculation earlier in this thread (granted, we're all
>speculating) that maybe she was on her way to the french fry area with a
>shaker of salt and the top came off and spilled on the burger patties. Who
>knows?

In case no one has noticed.... McDonald's joined all the other
franchises a long time ago. They cook their burgers and put them in
holding drawers, just like everyone else. There is no such thing as
cooked to order anymore, only assembled to order.
--

History is a vast early warning system
Norman Cousins

On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 00:07:52 -0700, "
> wrote:

>On Sep 10, 1:12?pm, ChattyCathy > wrote:
>> http://www.news24.com/News24/World/N...180299,00.html
>>
>> <quote>
>> Jailed - for over-salty burger
>> 09/09/2007 22:01 - (SA)
>>
>> Union City, Georgia - A McDonald's employee spent a night in jail and is
>> facing criminal charges because a police officer's burger was too salty
>> - so salty that he says it made him sick.
>
>
>So has anyone seen a picture of this bozo?

Which one? The salter or the one who ate it even though it was too
salty?
--

History is a vast early warning system
Norman Cousins

sf wrote:
>
> On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 11:23:10 -0500, "jmcquown"
> > wrote:
>
> >There was some speculation earlier in this thread (granted, we're all
> >speculating) that maybe she was on her way to the french fry area with a
> >shaker of salt and the top came off and spilled on the burger patties. Who
> >knows?
>
> In case no one has noticed.... McDonald's joined all the other
> franchises a long time ago. They cook their burgers and put them in
> holding drawers, just like everyone else. There is no such thing as
> cooked to order anymore, only assembled to order.

And that would fit quite well with the description of accidentally
spilling the salt into a bin of burger meat. Bin as in the holding
drawer, burger meat as in a half dozen cooked patties in the drawer.
Would also fit well with the supervisor trying to knock the excess salt
off and with the employee's statement that she had one of the same
burgers on break.

sf wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 00:07:52 -0700, "
> > wrote:
>
>> On Sep 10, 1:12?pm, ChattyCathy > wrote:
>>> http://www.news24.com/News24/World/N...180299,00.html
>>>
>>> <quote>
>>> Jailed - for over-salty burger
>>> 09/09/2007 22:01 - (SA)
>>>
>>> Union City, Georgia - A McDonald's employee spent a night in jail
>>> and is facing criminal charges because a police officer's burger
>>> was too salty - so salty that he says it made him sick.
>>
>>
>> So has anyone seen a picture of this bozo?
>
> Which one? The salter or the one who ate it even though it was too
> salty?

I think he/she wants to see a picture of the cop who thought it was a good
idea to interrogate and then arrest the employee for selling him a salty
burger