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![]() "agrunspan" > wrote > But while we're on the subject of bamboo cutting boards -- has anyone had > experience with their durability? I've seen them in several places but > haven't met anyone who's actually had one for any length of time. For a couple three years I have had a small one that is used often. It doesn't get any special attention, of course I don't put it into the dishwasher. Couple knife marks as all my cutting boards have, other than that, it's great. Cleans up nicely, dries fast. nancy |
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On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 09:55:50 -0400, "Nancy Young" >
wrote: > >"agrunspan" > wrote > >> But while we're on the subject of bamboo cutting boards -- has anyone had >> experience with their durability? I've seen them in several places but >> haven't met anyone who's actually had one for any length of time. > >For a couple three years I have had a small one that is used often. >It doesn't get any special attention, of course I don't put it into >the dishwasher. Couple knife marks as all my cutting boards have, >other than that, it's great. Cleans up nicely, dries fast. > >nancy > Thanks for the tip. Although I'd never buy from a smammer. Bamboo is also eco friendly as it grows so fast. My brother just did his bathroom suite floors with it. It's beautiful but was pretty expensive. I think about 7 buck a square foot. I'm told installed properly it's suitable for even bathrooms. Hopefully, because that's what he did and he used about 600 square feet. LOL Lou |
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![]() "Lou Decruss" > wrote > On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 09:55:50 -0400, "Nancy Young" > > wrote: >>For a couple three years I have had a small one that is used often. >>It doesn't get any special attention, of course I don't put it into >>the dishwasher. Couple knife marks as all my cutting boards have, >>other than that, it's great. Cleans up nicely, dries fast. > Thanks for the tip. Although I'd never buy from a smammer. Ditto. Actually, I bought mine from Whole Foods, it was there, it was priced okay, but they have them in any home store like Bed Bath and Beyond or Linens and Things or Target, blah blah. > Bamboo is > also eco friendly as it grows so fast. My brother just did his > bathroom suite floors with it. It's beautiful but was pretty > expensive. I think about 7 buck a square foot. I'm told installed > properly it's suitable for even bathrooms. Hopefully, because that's > what he did and he used about 600 square feet. LOL Wow, that's some bathroom. But, yeah, I guess that's why the bamboo seems to dry fast, being rather impervious to water compared to wood. The only issue would be the glue, and of course they use some type that is appropriate. nancy |
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On Sep 14, 6:55 am, "Nancy Young" > wrote:
> For a couple three years I have had a small one that is used often. > It doesn't get any special attention, of course I don't put it into > the dishwasher. Couple knife marks as all my cutting boards have, > other than that, it's great. Cleans up nicely, dries fast. > I have a small one, but don't use it much. It does clean up and dry well, as you say, but I just don't like the way it feels under my knife. Too "brittle," if you get what I mean. I also use the plastic boards, mostly for chickens for their convenience in cleaning, but when I'm going to be doing a lot of cutting of a variety of things I always reach for the big old butcher block style, mostly maple, board. It's an aesthetic thing, I guess, more than anything else. - aem |
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On Sep 14, 10:22?am, Lou Decruss > wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 09:55:50 -0400, "Nancy Young" > > wrote: > > > > >"agrunspan" > wrote > > >> But while we're on the subject of bamboo cutting boards -- has anyone had > >> experience with their durability? I've seen them in several places but > >> haven't met anyone who's actually had one for any length of time. > > >For a couple three years I have had a small one that is used often. > >It doesn't get any special attention, of course I don't put it into > >the dishwasher. Couple knife marks as all my cutting boards have, > >other than that, it's great. Cleans up nicely, dries fast. > > >nancy > > Thanks for the tip. Although I'd never buy from a smammer. Bamboo is > also eco friendly as it grows so fast. My brother just did his > bathroom suite floors with it. It's beautiful but was pretty > expensive. I think about 7 buck a square foot. I'm told installed > properly it's suitable for even bathrooms. Hopefully, because that's > what he did and he used about 600 square feet. LOL $7/sqft would be extremely cheap for ceramic tile installed, typically costs twice that, and more if good quality ceramic, would be a lot more for porcelain.... but 600sqft is a HUGE terlit... even if all the walls are tiled to the ceiling and the ceiling is tiled too 600sq would be some HUGE terlit. Six hundred sqft is like a decent sized 2 bedroom apartment with an EIK. An oversized 2 car garage is under 600 sq ft. mine is 24' x 24', that's 576sqft. a fairly large two car garage, will easily house two super cab pick up trucks with plenty of room left over. The average full bath is like 50sqft (5' x 10'), and the standard 5' tub takes up more than 10sqft. Sheldon |
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aem wrote:
> > I have a small one, but don't use it much. > It's an aesthetic thing, I guess, more than anything else. Hmm. . . |
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> I also use the plastic boards, mostly for chickens...
Raw fish, foul or meat I cut on a plastic board. Bread, veggies and spices, as well as anything that's already cooked I cut, slice, chop or otherwise abuse on a butcher block. So far no one has died so I guess I'm doing it right. :^) -- Regards, Robert L Bass =============================> Bass Home Electronics 941-925-8650 4883 Fallcrest Circle Sarasota · Florida · 34233 http://www.bassburglaralarms.com =============================> |
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On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 03:05:33 GMT, "Robert L Bass"
> wrote: >> I also use the plastic boards, mostly for chickens... > >Raw fish, foul or meat I cut on a plastic board. Bread, veggies and >spices, as well as anything that's already cooked I cut, slice, chop >or otherwise abuse on a butcher block. So far no one has died so I >guess I'm doing it right. :^) i cut meat on my wooden board (of course, washing afterwards). if they die, they die. your pal, blake |
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On Sep 14, 11:01 am, Sheldon > wrote:
> aem wrote: > > > I have a small one, but don't use it much. > > It's an aesthetic thing, I guess, more than anything else. > > Hmm. . . Cute, though to get there you had to snip a lot.....ouch. -aem |
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On Sep 15, 3:18?pm, aem > wrote:
> On Sep 14, 11:01 am, Sheldon > wrote: > > > aem wrote: > > > > I have a small one, but don't use it much. > > > It's an aesthetic thing, I guess, more than anything else. > > > Hmm. . . > > Cute, though to get there you had to snip a lot.....ouch. At least it's hard. But that's the problem with bamboo cutting boards, they look nice but the resin that forms the matrix is fairly hard and slightly abrasive... dulls knives as though cutting on manicurist's emery boards. I like the new polypropylene boards, they don't dull knives, they are made in all colors and configurations to satisfy any decor, and are very inexpensive so you can afford a stack... after using just put in the dishwasher. And they are typically impregnated with a germacide that lasts the life of the board plus they don't absorb odors. |
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On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 22:27:23 -0400, "Edwin Pawlowski" >
wrote: > >"dolphineight" > wrote in message oups.com... >> www.simplybamboo.net >> > > >Using the above email, you can notify these people they are in violation of >the terms of service of their internet provider. Thinly veiled postings of >this sort are essentially unpaid advertising that is un welcome in >non-commercial newsgroups. > It was posted through Google. You will get a response from Google that essentially states that they could care less. |
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raymond wrote:
> "Edwin Pawlowski" wrote: > >"dolphineight" > >>www.simplebamboozle.net > > > > >Using the above email, you can notify these people they are in violation of > >the terms of service of their internet provider. Thinly veiled postings of > >this sort are essentially unpaid advertising that is un welcome in > >non-commercial newsgroups. > > It was posted through Google. You will get a response from Google that > essentially states that they could care less. I suppose they could care less but typically they *couldn't* care less. Sheldon |
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![]() "raymond" > wrote in message ... > On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 22:27:23 -0400, "Edwin Pawlowski" > > wrote: > >> >>"dolphineight" > wrote in message roups.com... >>> www.simplybamboo.net >>> >> >> >>Using the above email, you can notify these people they are in violation >>of >>the terms of service of their internet provider. Thinly veiled postings >>of >>this sort are essentially unpaid advertising that is un welcome in >>non-commercial newsgroups. >> > It was posted through Google. You will get a response from Google that > essentially states that they could care less. It was posted through Google, but some other place carries their web page. Beside, I'm complaining directly to the seller. Why not let them know you don't appreciate their spam? |
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> It was posted through Google, but some other place carries their
> web page. Beside, I'm complaining directly to the seller. Why not > let them know you don't appreciate their spam? You can use a variant on my method of dealing with phone spammers. 1. Contact them and ask if you can place orders by fax. Write the number down. 2. Using your favorite image editor, create an 8.5" x 11" solid black image. In the center of the image, using white 30-point text, write "Please Stop Spamming Usenet". Save the image as a JPG or GIF image. 3. Open your favorite word processing app and create a 1-page doc. Insert the image in the middle of the page. Save the document. 4. Click on the image and hit CTL-C once. Now hit CTL-V 10 times to create a 10-page document. 5. Now click one on the document and hit CTL-A, CTL-C to grab the whole thing. Again hit CTL-V 10 times to make the document 100 pages long. 6. Print the document to a PDF file. 7. Use your fax modem to send the document to the spammer once a night for a few weeks. I've used this to get persistent phone spammers to take my number off their lists. It usually only takes one or two 100-page faxes to do the trick. Note that you should precede the fax number with *70 to block your caller ID. -- Regards, Robert L Bass =============================> Bass Home Electronics 941-925-8650 4883 Fallcrest Circle Sarasota · Florida · 34233 http://www.bassburglaralarms.com =============================> |
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That's a juvenal retaliation. Are you 12? Be a man and complain
directly to someone in charge. Some kid in their marketing department thought posting here would be a good idea. At least it's a legitimate business where you can make your voice heard, unlike our handbag and shoe spammers, so grow up and complain in an adult manner if you're so bothered. ``````````````````````````` On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 01:00:08 GMT, "Robert L Bass" > wrote: >> It was posted through Google, but some other place carries their >> web page. Beside, I'm complaining directly to the seller. Why not >> let them know you don't appreciate their spam? > >You can use a variant on my method of dealing with phone spammers. > >1. Contact them and ask if you can place orders by fax. Write the >number down. > >2. Using your favorite image editor, create an 8.5" x 11" solid black >image. In the center of the image, using white 30-point text, write >"Please Stop Spamming Usenet". Save the image as a JPG or GIF image. > >3. Open your favorite word processing app and create a 1-page doc. >Insert the image in the middle of the page. Save the document. > >4. Click on the image and hit CTL-C once. Now hit CTL-V 10 times to >create a 10-page document. > >5. Now click one on the document and hit CTL-A, CTL-C to grab the >whole thing. Again hit CTL-V 10 times to make the document 100 pages >long. > >6. Print the document to a PDF file. > >7. Use your fax modem to send the document to the spammer once a >night for a few weeks. > >I've used this to get persistent phone spammers to take my number off >their lists. It usually only takes one or two 100-page faxes to do >the trick. Note that you should precede the fax number with *70 to >block your caller ID. -- History is a vast early warning system Norman Cousins |
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sf wrote:
> That's a juvenal retaliation. Blinky Trivia Time! Did you know that Juvenal was a Roman satirist whose real name was DECIMVS IVNIVS IVVENALIS? No, I'm not shouting; they didn't have lower case letters. I suppose when he was young he did some *juvenile* things, although I doubt that he was ever a *juvenile* delinquent. -- Blinky RLU 297263 Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org <----------- New Site Aug 28 |
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> That's a juvenal retaliation. Are you 12?
No, 13. > Be a man and complain directly to someone in charge. Do you honestly believe that there's someone at a spammer's company that gives a hoot if you complain? > Some kid in their marketing department thought > posting here would be a good idea... I doubt it. Legitimate copmpanies don't hire chilfdren to spam Usenet. > ... if you're so bothered. Perhaps I wasn't clear. I'm not particularly bothered. I used the technique to get incorrigible phone spammers to leave me alone. It might work equally well on Usenet spammers. I'm not talking about legitimate businesses. These are primarily scam artists. If it makes you feel better, by all means call and complain. -- Regards, Robert L Bass =============================> Bass Home Electronics 941-925-8650 4883 Fallcrest Circle Sarasota · Florida · 34233 http://www.bassburglaralarms.com =============================> |
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On 16 Sep 2007 18:01:29 GMT, Blinky the Shark >
wrote: >sf wrote: > >> That's a juvenal retaliation. > >Blinky Trivia Time! Did you know that Juvenal was a Roman satirist >whose real name was DECIMVS IVNIVS IVVENALIS? No, I'm not shouting; >they didn't have lower case letters. I suppose when he was young he did >some *juvenile* things, although I doubt that he was ever a *juvenile* >delinquent. This is a great piece of trivia. Thank you! -- History is a vast early warning system Norman Cousins |
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On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 21:35:21 GMT, "Robert L Bass"
> wrote: >> That's a juvenal retaliation. Are you 12? > >No, 13. > >> Be a man and complain directly to someone in charge. > >Do you honestly believe that there's someone at a spammer's company >that gives a hoot if you complain? > >> Some kid in their marketing department thought >> posting here would be a good idea... > >I doubt it. Legitimate copmpanies don't hire chilfdren to spam >Usenet. Aha, so you're an ignoramus who takes words literally. > >> ... if you're so bothered. > >Perhaps I wasn't clear. I'm not particularly bothered. I used the >technique to get incorrigible phone spammers to leave me alone. It >might work equally well on Usenet spammers. I'm not talking about >legitimate businesses. These are primarily scam artists. > >If it makes you feel better, by all means call and complain. *I* was not bothered by that post, but apparently you were AND *you* were the person who suggested a pre-adult form of retaliation. IMO, others responded appropriately by critiquing how bamboo and knives interact. They gave adult responses. You didn't. -- History is a vast early warning system Norman Cousins |
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> Aha, so you're an ignoramus who takes words literally.
No, I'm someone who doesn't take Usenet so seriously as to call you an ignoramus. Though we differ in opinion on this not very significant issue, I prefer to assume you're not. > *I* was not bothered by that post... It seems you were bothered by my post though. Sorry for offending you. > IMO, others responded appropriately by critiquing how bamboo and > knives interact... Glad they met with your approval. -- Regards, Robert L Bass =============================> Bass Home Electronics 941-925-8650 4883 Fallcrest Circle Sarasota · Florida · 34233 http://www.bassburglaralarms.com =============================> |
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> On 16 Sep 2007 18:01:29 GMT, Blinky the Shark > > wrote: > >>sf wrote: >> >>> That's a juvenal retaliation. >> >>Blinky Trivia Time! Did you know that Juvenal was a Roman >>satirist whose real name was DECIMVS IVNIVS IVVENALIS? No, I'm >>not shouting; they didn't have lower case letters. I suppose >>when he was young he did some *juvenile* things, although I >>doubt that he was ever a *juvenile* delinquent. > > This is a great piece of trivia. Thank you! Enjoy. ![]() remembered, too. -- Blinky Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org <------------- New Site Aug 28 |
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On 18 Sep 2007 18:57:25 GMT, Blinky the Shark >
wrote: > wrote: > >> On 16 Sep 2007 18:01:29 GMT, Blinky the Shark >> > wrote: >> >>>sf wrote: >>> >>>> That's a juvenal retaliation. >>> >>>Blinky Trivia Time! Did you know that Juvenal was a Roman >>>satirist whose real name was DECIMVS IVNIVS IVVENALIS? No, I'm >>>not shouting; they didn't have lower case letters. I suppose >>>when he was young he did some *juvenile* things, although I >>>doubt that he was ever a *juvenile* delinquent. >> >> This is a great piece of trivia. Thank you! > >Enjoy. ![]() >remembered, too. Not if I forget to spell check. End of story. -- History is a vast early warning system Norman Cousins |
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> On 18 Sep 2007 18:57:25 GMT, Blinky the Shark > > wrote: > >> wrote: >> >>> On 16 Sep 2007 18:01:29 GMT, Blinky the Shark >>> > wrote: >>> >>>>sf wrote: >>>> >>>>> That's a juvenal retaliation. >>>> >>>>Blinky Trivia Time! Did you know that Juvenal was a Roman >>>>satirist whose real name was DECIMVS IVNIVS IVVENALIS? No, >>>>I'm not shouting; they didn't have lower case letters. I >>>>suppose when he was young he did some *juvenile* things, >>>>although I doubt that he was ever a *juvenile* delinquent. >>> >>> This is a great piece of trivia. Thank you! >> >>Enjoy. ![]() >>be remembered, too. > > Not if I forget to spell check. End of story. Spell check probably won't catch it, since they're both words. ![]() -- Blinky Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org <------------- New Site Aug 28 |
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On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 10:59:21 -0700, Sheldon > wrote:
>> Thanks for the tip. Although I'd never buy from a smammer. Bamboo is >> also eco friendly as it grows so fast. My brother just did his >> bathroom suite floors with it. It's beautiful but was pretty >> expensive. I think about 7 buck a square foot. I'm told installed >> properly it's suitable for even bathrooms. Hopefully, because that's >> what he did and he used about 600 square feet. LOL > >$7/sqft would be extremely cheap for ceramic tile installed, typically >costs twice that, and more if good quality ceramic, would be a lot >more for porcelain.... but 600sqft is a HUGE terlit... even if all the >walls are tiled to the ceiling and the ceiling is tiled too 600sq >would be some HUGE terlit. Sorry but I made a mistake. I should have said "bedroom" suite. But that makes the area no less impressive. He doesn't have a common "starter" home. About half of the bamboo went in the bedroom area. The rest went in a very short hallway leading to the bathroom and the bathroom itself. They had a whirlpool tub and never used it so they replaced it with an oversized no frills, but high end tub. The sink counter top is custom granite with granite pedestal legs. It's a double bowl thingie about 10 feet long. He's 6'6" and has always hated having to bend over to get under the shower head. So the shower (separate from the tub) has a 10 foot ceiling. It alone is larger than what you've described as the average bathroom. Two shower heads, those silly side jets, and seating benches. I guess the benches are good for sitting down and scrubbing your feet. Everything in the shower is marble. The walk in closets are carpeted. >Six hundred sqft is like a decent sized 2 bedroom apartment with an >EIK. An oversized 2 car garage is under 600 sq ft. mine is 24' x 24', >that's 576sqft. a fairly large two car garage, will easily house two >super cab pick up trucks with plenty of room left over. Mine is that size too. I've always lived in the city and never had a garage so to me it's huge. His house is not the norm though. It has only 3 doors but there's a bay between the second and third. And it's very deep. It could hold 6 cars. >The average full bath is like 50sqft (5' x 10'), and the standard 5' >tub takes up more than 10sqft. He's got one that size off the great room. Damn thing is so clean I'm afraid to use it. BTW, he's a skilled tradesman. The $7 per sq ft. didn't include underlayment, glue, screws, labor or any other cost of instalation. He did it himself. The material alone was well over 25 grand. Lou <----poor in comparison |
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Lou Decruss wrote:
> Sheldon wrote: > >> Thanks for the tip. Although I'd never buy from a smammer. Bamboo is > >> also eco friendly as it grows so fast. My brother just did his > >> bathroom suite floors with it. It's beautiful but was pretty > >> expensive. I think about 7 buck a square foot. I'm told installed > >> properly it's suitable for even bathrooms. Hopefully, because that's > >> what he did and he used about 600 square feet. LOL > > >$7/sqft would be extremely cheap for ceramic tile installed, typically > >costs twice that, and more if good quality ceramic, would be a lot > >more for porcelain.... but 600sqft is a HUGE terlit... even if all the > >walls are tiled to the ceiling and the ceiling is tiled too 600sq > >would be some HUGE terlit. > > Sorry but I made a mistake. I should have said "bedroom" suite. But > that makes the area no less impressive. He doesn't have a common > "starter" home. About half of the bamboo went in the bedroom area. > The rest went in a very short hallway leading to the bathroom and the > bathroom itself. They had a whirlpool tub and never used it so they > replaced it with an oversized no frills, but high end tub. The sink > counter top is custom granite with granite pedestal legs. It's a > double bowl thingie about 10 feet long. He's 6'6" and has always hated > having to bend over to get under the shower head. So the shower > (separate from the tub) has a 10 foot ceiling. It alone is larger > than what you've described as the average bathroom. Two shower heads, > those silly side jets, and seating benches. I guess the benches are > good for sitting down and scrubbing your feet. Everything in the > shower is marble. The walk in closets are carpeted. > > >Six hundred sqft is like a decent sized 2 bedroom apartment with an > >EIK. An oversized 2 car garage is under 600 sq ft. mine is 24' x 24', > >that's 576sqft. a fairly large two car garage, will easily house two > >super cab pick up trucks with plenty of room left over. > > Mine is that size too. I've always lived in the city and never had a > garage so to me it's huge. His house is not the norm though. It has > only 3 doors but there's a bay between the second and third. And it's > very deep. It could hold 6 cars. > > >The average full bath is like 50sqft (5' x 10'), and the standard 5' > >tub takes up more than 10sqft. > > He's got one that size off the great room. Damn thing is so clean I'm > afraid to use it. > > BTW, he's a skilled tradesman. The $7 per sq ft. didn't include > underlayment, glue, screws, labor or any other cost of instalation. > He did it himself. The material alone was well over 25 grand. > > Lou <----poor in comparison Still, $7/sqft is dirt cheap, astro turf costs more... he must have you snookered about his economic worth. And bamboo laminate is NOT ecol friendly at all, the bamboo portion is but not the plasticized binder and it's mostly plastic binder. If I wanted to make an impression and I had the big bucks to spend I'd never consider having a terlit filled with high end designer fixtures floored with cheapo plastic tiles. Your story just doesn't compute, or your brother has his aesthetic taste in his ass. And $25,000 is like extremely cheap for what you describe.. just an ordinary Jacuzzi can eat up half that pittance of a budget... even plain old Kohler faucets for that loo can total $5,000, and more, decent lighting but not top of the line can easily run $20,000 for a 600sqft space. For what you describe, a high end 600 sqft bedroom suite would run like $100,000 just for materials, and I'm being conservative, very. No one who does what you describe uses any kind of cheapo-crapo laminate flooring, no way, no how. All laminate flooring is garbage. With 600 sqft we're talking half a typical tract home, and you're talking estate... a master bedroom suite with high end, high tech fixturing is the most expensive portion of an expensive house, even more than the kitchen. $7sqft plastic laminate tile is what poor folk use to cover their kid's playroom floor in their doublewide. Personally I wouldn't ever use any kind of plastic laminate flooring, it presents an extreme fire hazzard, emits the kind of fumes a HAZMAT team runs from. Even the typical inexpensive working class tract home toilet is costly just to redo... I had one redone like 12 years ago, a typical 60 sqft jobbie, and I had very nice imported Italian procelain tiles instaled floor to ceiling and over the tub. I had all much better than average fixtures but no way high tech exotic, really just a step or two better than builder special... and this cost me $22,000, and that's 12 years ago, and I shopped around, other estimates were substantially more. I bought those fancy schmancy tiles myself, the contractor installed them, and properly on a mud floor and new waterproof sheetrocked walls and ceiling, each 8' x 8' tile cost me $16. I bought them at http://cancos.com, they have gorgeous showroomS and sell only top shelf. I seriously doubt you can buy just the materials for the average sized mediocre terlit for $25k today. Just decent quality towel bars and TP holder can cost $200... that's what I paid recently at Lowes and installed them myself.. two stinkin' brushed nickel towel bars and a TP holder, and you can easily pay 4 times that price and more for designer stuff... one teensy chrome and glass guest towel shelf can cost $400, and more... didja know a quality terlit seat runs like $75. Sheldon |
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On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:16:54 GMT, Lou Decruss > wrote:
>Two shower heads, >those silly side jets, and seating benches. I guess the benches are >good for sitting down and scrubbing your feet. Ask a woman how silly a side bench is. It's a great place to put your foot when you shave your legs. Older people do need them, so they really are not silly at all. -- History is a vast early warning system Norman Cousins |
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On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:16:08 -0700, Sheldon > wrote:
> And bamboo laminate is NOT >ecol friendly at all, the bamboo portion is but not the plasticized >binder and it's mostly plastic binder. Maybe I missed a previous post, but where did he say bamboo "laminate"? Maybe I should ask "why" bamboo laminate? A piece of regular bamboo flooring (a scrap with unfinished edges) can be in water for 3 days and it won't warp. -- History is a vast early warning system Norman Cousins |
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