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"Nancy Young" > wrote:

> "Goomba38" > wrote
>
> > Nancy Young wrote:

>
> >> I use a small retractable utility razor ... thingy. That packaging
> >> is unreal.

>
> > I have an odd assortment of surgical needle drivers that work when I
> > remember to grab 'em out of the pen cup.

>
> (whimper) I'm suddenly very frightened of you ... only you
> medical types would have SURGICAL NEEDLE DRIVERS
> hanging around.
>
> nancy


I used Bone Marrow Biopsy needles for blowing out emu and ostrich eggs
with a fish tank compressor. ;-)

Our Pathologist threw them away when he retired. They were his personal
ones...
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> I used Bone Marrow Biopsy needles for blowing out emu and ostrich eggs
> with a fish tank compressor. ;-)


Having had them drill into my pelvis a couple times for bone marrow
specimens, I can attest that using those to blow out eggs is a more
pleasant use.


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Blinky the Shark > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
>
> > I used Bone Marrow Biopsy needles for blowing out emu and ostrich eggs
> > with a fish tank compressor. ;-)

>
> Having had them drill into my pelvis a couple times for bone marrow
> specimens, I can attest that using those to blow out eggs is a more
> pleasant use.


I know.

I've assisted on more than one Biopsy. I and my co-workers have to
prepare the slides for the Pathologist to read.

Makes me nauseous every time I watch one of those things. <shudder>

But, I still signed up at the local tissue center to do bone marrow
donation if I'm ever called on to do it.

At least they knock you out for that. ;-)

Did you have leukemia or suspect?
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On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 13:44:45 -0500, Omelet >
wrote:

>In article >,
> "Dee Dee" > wrote:
>
>> "blake murphy" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 21:37:41 GMT, "l, not -l" > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>On 19-Sep-2007, Goomba38 > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I can't stand
>> >>> how in the US small items are sold in huge wasteful boxes. I'm sure it
>> >>> is so they'll stand out on a market shelf or look like more than there
>> >>> is for the price. It shames me to think how stupid some people are to
>> >>> fall for this. <sigh>
>> >>
>> >>In most cases, the packaging is huge to reduce theft. Perhaps as more
>> >>chips
>> >>are imbedded in packaging, the wasteful quantity can be reduced.
>> >
>> > that's my understanding as well.
>> >
>> > your pal,
>> > blake

>>
>> I don't have arthritis, and there is not a darned thing that comes into this
>> house that I can open. Dang them!
>> I couldn't even get the olive oil bottle top off a while ago. This is a
>> constant thing. I just ove it when those plastic containers will cut your
>> fingers while you are trying to get it apart. :-(
>> Dee

>
>Plyers hon'.
>
>Adjustable ones.


i keep my pliers in the kitchen utensil drawer rather than with the
rest of my tools.

your pal,
blake
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Omelet wrote:
> In article >, Blinky the
> Shark > wrote:
>
>> Omelet wrote:
>>
>> > I used Bone Marrow Biopsy needles for blowing out emu and ostrich
>> > eggs with a fish tank compressor. ;-)

>>
>> Having had them drill into my pelvis a couple times for bone marrow
>> specimens, I can attest that using those to blow out eggs is a more
>> pleasant use.

>
> I know.
>
> I've assisted on more than one Biopsy. I and my co-workers have to
> prepare the slides for the Pathologist to read.
>
> Makes me nauseous every time I watch one of those things. <shudder>
>
> But, I still signed up at the local tissue center to do bone marrow
> donation if I'm ever called on to do it.
>
> At least they knock you out for that. ;-)
>
> Did you have leukemia or suspect?


I was in the hospital for three weeks with one or more serious
infections due to a virtually totally crashed immune system. They never
figured out what hit me, and this was a respected major university
teaching hospital. They threatened me with a bone-marrow transplant.
Right. I had no insurance. I lucked out and a year of self-injecting a
very expensive ($320 a shot[1]) drug called Neupogen got my white count
up off the floor and to an acceptable and sustainable-without-drugs
level.

[1] The manufacturer provided it free, as I proved my hardship status in
the context of three to five of those injections a week.


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blake murphy > wrote:

> >> I don't have arthritis, and there is not a darned thing that comes into
> >> this
> >> house that I can open. Dang them!
> >> I couldn't even get the olive oil bottle top off a while ago. This is a
> >> constant thing. I just ove it when those plastic containers will cut
> >> your
> >> fingers while you are trying to get it apart. :-(
> >> Dee

> >
> >Plyers hon'.
> >
> >Adjustable ones.

>
> i keep my pliers in the kitchen utensil drawer rather than with the
> rest of my tools.
>
> your pal,
> blake


So do we. :-)
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Blinky the Shark > wrote:

> > Did you have leukemia or suspect?

>
> I was in the hospital for three weeks with one or more serious
> infections due to a virtually totally crashed immune system. They never
> figured out what hit me, and this was a respected major university
> teaching hospital. They threatened me with a bone-marrow transplant.
> Right. I had no insurance. I lucked out and a year of self-injecting a
> very expensive ($320 a shot[1]) drug called Neupogen got my white count
> up off the floor and to an acceptable and sustainable-without-drugs
> level.
>
> [1] The manufacturer provided it free, as I proved my hardship status in
> the context of three to five of those injections a week.
>
>
> --
> Blinky


Well done. :-)

I'll have to google for that drug.
You've piqued my curiosity.
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Omelet wrote:
> In article >,
> Blinky the Shark > wrote:
>
>> > Did you have leukemia or suspect?

>>
>> I was in the hospital for three weeks with one or more serious
>> infections due to a virtually totally crashed immune system. They never
>> figured out what hit me, and this was a respected major university
>> teaching hospital. They threatened me with a bone-marrow transplant.
>> Right. I had no insurance. I lucked out and a year of self-injecting a
>> very expensive ($320 a shot[1]) drug called Neupogen got my white count
>> up off the floor and to an acceptable and sustainable-without-drugs
>> level.
>>
>> [1] The manufacturer provided it free, as I proved my hardship status in
>> the context of three to five of those injections a week.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Blinky

>
> Well done. :-)
>
> I'll have to google for that drug.
> You've piqued my curiosity.


It pulled my white count up to the high end of the range, but whenever I
tapered it off the count would go sub-acceptable. Eventually, after
that year I could hold it at the lower levels of the range on my own.
It started as a short-term treatment in the hospital, but they just
kept saying, well, there's not much else do to so let's just keep trying
this.

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Goomba38 wrote:
> Michael "Dog3" wrote:
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>> I agree 100% Goomba. The stuff is NASTY I used it because I was in a
>> hurry.
>>
>> Michael

>
> And I was totally offended by the excess packaging.
> Years ago when we were living in Germany they passed a law that the
> sellers had to take back any packaging that the customer didn't want.
> So you'd have an area where you could remove excess cardboard or
> wrappings and they had the burden of disposing of or recycling them.
> I can't stand how in the US small items are sold in huge wasteful

(snip)

While I appreciate your concerns about over-packaging (it's ridiculous), the
*seller* had nothing to do with the packaging, so why penalize them for it?

Jill


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"jmcquown" > wrote in message
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> Goomba38 wrote:
>> Michael "Dog3" wrote:
>>
>>> I agree 100% Goomba. The stuff is NASTY I used it because I was in a
>>> hurry.
>>>
>>> Michael

>>
>> And I was totally offended by the excess packaging.
>> Years ago when we were living in Germany they passed a law that the
>> sellers had to take back any packaging that the customer didn't want.
>> So you'd have an area where you could remove excess cardboard or
>> wrappings and they had the burden of disposing of or recycling them.
>> I can't stand how in the US small items are sold in huge wasteful

> (snip)
>
> While I appreciate your concerns about over-packaging (it's ridiculous),
> the
> *seller* had nothing to do with the packaging, so why penalize them for
> it?
>
> Jill



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"Blinky the Shark" > wrote in message
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> I was in the hospital for three weeks with one or more serious
> infections due to a virtually totally crashed immune system. They never
> figured out what hit me, and this was a respected major university
> teaching hospital. They threatened me with a bone-marrow transplant.
> Right. I had no insurance. I lucked out and a year of self-injecting a
> very expensive ($320 a shot[1]) drug called Neupogen got my white count
> up off the floor and to an acceptable and sustainable-without-drugs
> level.
>
> [1] The manufacturer provided it free, as I proved my hardship status in
> the context of three to five of those injections a week.
>
>
> --
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Dear f-i-l had cancer twice. The first cancer, he had chemo every three
weeks. After each chemo treatment, then for 10 days, he injected himself in
the stomach with Neupogen.

I can't recall off the top of my head now how many chemo treatments he had,
but it was a bunch.
This cancer was lymphoma.

Later he had a totally unrelated colon cancer, chemo was not recommended,
and no Neupogen was given.

Just for yours and anyone-else's information.
Dee Dee


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