On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 10:02:27 -0400, Julia Altshuler
> wrote:

>Sheldon wrote:
>> Be honest, Julia... you hate slanty eyed
>> people, anyone who pulls the Chinese Restaurant syndrome card is a
>> racist.
>
>
>Looks like you've got me there. I knew I couldn't hide it from you for
>long.
>
>
>Smooches,
>--Lia

being called a racist by sheldon is like being called ugly by a toad.

your pal,
blake

"blake murphy" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:37:38 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
> > wrote:
>
>>"Steve Wertz" > wrote in message
...
>>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:13:16 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Steve Wertz" > wrote in message
>>>>
>>>>> That's a pretty stupid statement, even if it is directed as
>>>>> Sheldon. MSG is fine when used at the right time and place.
>>>>> Just like salt.
>>>>
>>>> Nah. It's a cob job in the world of food.
>>>
>>> Just like salt and pepper, right?
>>>
>>> -sw
>>
>>
>>I'll agree when you can show me an ongoing debate about people feeling ill
>>from eating pepper.
>>
>>MSG does nothing but make your mouth water.
>>
>
> you have heard of umami?
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umami
>
> your pal,
> blake

No - that's interesting.

blake wrote on Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:09:44 GMT:

??>> "Steve Wertz" > wrote in message
??>> ...
??>>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:37:38 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
??>>>
??>>>> "Steve Wertz" > wrote in message
??>>>> ...
??>>>>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:13:16 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom
wrote:
??>>>>>
??>>>>>> "Steve Wertz" > wrote in
??>>>>>> message
??>>>>>>
??>>>>>>> That's a pretty stupid statement, even if it is
??>>>>>>> directed as Sheldon. MSG is fine when used at the
??>>>>>>> right time and place. Just like salt.
??>>>>>>
??>>>>>> Nah. It's a cob job in the world of food.
??>>>>>
??>>>>> Just like salt and pepper, right?
??>>>>
??>>>> I'll agree when you can show me an ongoing debate about
??>>>> people feeling ill from eating pepper.
??>>>
??>>> <sigh> That's too easy:
??>>>
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...&btnG=S earch
??>>> Almost as many hits as MSG.
??>>>
??>>> I notice you didn't want to bring up salt - which is
??>>> supposedly killing people VIA hypertension.
??>>>
??>>> Not to mention fat, another crucial flavoring that is
??>>> killing people.
??>>>
??>>> So what's different about MSG, salt, fat, and pepper?
??>>> MSG isn't killing people like salt - that I've heard of,
??>>> at least.
??>>>
??>>> -sw
??>>
??>> How do you explain the fact that good cooks can make
??>> fabulous food without adding MSG?
??>>
bm> most good cooks would not completely rule out any
bm> ingredient, especially a spice-type ingredient.

I wonder how people tell that "good cooks" have not used MSG, a
naturally occurring substance despite the scare stories and a
stimulant for unami as you say? A number of good cooks also use
garlic without admitting so.

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

"James Silverton" > wrote in message
news:PdVIi.17$9r4.8@trnddc04...


> I wonder how people tell that "good cooks" have not used MSG

Umm....stand next to them and watch?

On Sep 20, 9:19 am, "Dee Dee" > wrote:
> "Giusi" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > Pizza dough consists of flour, water, yeast, salt and olive oil. Period.
>
> Reinhart (American Pie) in his Roman Pizza dough doesn't use olive oil.
> In his other two formulas for Italian pizza doughs in that book, he does use
> olive oil.

You know, when you say "American Pie" and "pizza dough," it conjures
an image.
>
> I would say that any pizza dough could forego the olive oil. However, when
> I do not put oo in the dough, I make up for the lack of it using it on top

Olive oil, not being a "water based lubricant," doesn't work well with
latex. Wait, who needs a condom to get it on with a soft, warm ball
of pizza dough.

> :-)
> Dee Dee

--Bryan

"Peter A" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> says...
>> Is polysorbate-80 a "spice type ingredient"? When I think of spices, I
>> tend
>> to think mostly of things which come from plants.
>>
>
> MSG originally came from seaweed.
>
> --
> Peter Aitken

zzzzzzzz........

On Sep 21, 1:54 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
> "James Silverton" > wrote in message
>
> news:PdVIi.17$9r4.8@trnddc04...
>
> > I wonder how people tell that "good cooks" have not used MSG
>
> Umm....stand next to them and watch?

I like watching. Problem is, most people won't let you.

--Bryan

"Bobo Bonobo®" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> On Sep 21, 1:54 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
>> "James Silverton" > wrote in message
>>
>> news:PdVIi.17$9r4.8@trnddc04...
>>
>> > I wonder how people tell that "good cooks" have not used MSG
>>
>> Umm....stand next to them and watch?
>
> I like watching. Problem is, most people won't let you.
>
> --Bryan
>

I spent a year socializing off & on with a chef trained at Culinary
Institute. We discussed MSG once, after ordering at a Chinese restaurant. He
said the subject never comes up in classes at CIA. This doesn't address all
the exceptions which others will now introduce to the discussion, but we
can't control that and who cares.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:14:38 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>
>> "blake murphy" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:37:38 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Steve Wertz" > wrote in message
...
>>>>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:13:16 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Steve Wertz" > wrote in message
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's a pretty stupid statement, even if it is directed as
>>>>>>> Sheldon. MSG is fine when used at the right time and place.
>>>>>>> Just like salt.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nah. It's a cob job in the world of food.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just like salt and pepper, right?
>>>>>
>>>>> -sw
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I'll agree when you can show me an ongoing debate about people feeling
>>>>ill
>>>>from eating pepper.
>>>>
>>>>MSG does nothing but make your mouth water.
>>>>
>>>
>>> you have heard of umami?
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umami
>>>
>>> your pal,
>>> blake
>>
>> No - that's interesting.
>
> And you're the same guy that just <zzzzzzzz>'s when someone said
> it was made from seaweed?
>
> I would have thought anyone arguing about MSG would know about
> umami.
>
> -sw

What is so strange about not wanting (prepare to read three time)

MAN MADE
MAN MADE
MAN MADE

additives in my food?

On Sep 21, 7:25?pm, Sqwertz > wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:14:38 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> > "blake murphy" > wrote in message
> .. .
> >> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:37:38 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
> >> > wrote:
>
> >>>"Steve Wertz" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:13:16 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>
> >>>>> "Steve Wertz" > wrote in message
>
> >>>>>> That's a pretty stupid statement, even if it is directed as
> >>>>>> Sheldon. MSG is fine when used at the right time and place.
> >>>>>> Just like salt.
>
> >>>>> Nah. It's a cob job in the world of food.
>
> >>>> Just like salt and pepper, right?
>
> >>>> -sw
>
> >>>I'll agree when you can show me an ongoing debate about people feeling ill
> >>>from eating pepper.
>
> >>>MSG does nothing but make your mouth water.
>
> >> you have heard of umami?
>
> >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umami
>
> >> your pal,
> >> blake
>
> > No - that's interesting.
>
> And you're the same guy that just <zzzzzzzz>'s when someone said
> it was made from seaweed?
>
> I would have thought anyone arguing about MSG would know about
> umami.

Because of his avoidance of all glutamate containing foods this may
help explain joespareouthouse's low IQ.

http://www.glutamate.org/media/pdfs/nutrgb.pdf
http://www.glutamate.org/default.asp

Sheldon

"Sheldon" > wrote in message
oups.com...


> Because of his avoidance of all glutamate containing foods this may
> help explain joespareouthouse's low IQ.
>
> http://www.glutamate.org/media/pdfs/nutrgb.pdf
> http://www.glutamate.org/default.asp
>
> Sheldon
>


You never saw me say I avoided all foods which contain glutamate.

In article >,
Peter A > wrote:

> In article >,
> says...

> > zzzzzzzz........
> >
>
> And what exactly is that supposed to mean? Oh, I get it. You have a
> chance to learn something and put a small dent in your enormous
> ignorance, but instead you pretend to be bored as if you can't be
> bothered, like some mentally defective teenager. Shouldn't you say
> "whatever?"

Nah, saying "whatever" takes too much effort. These days the cool kids
say "wev".

Miche

--
In the monastery office --
Before enlightenment: fetch mail, shuffle paper
After enlightenment: fetch mail, shuffle paper

On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:12:50 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
> wrote:

>"blake murphy" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:03:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>"Steve Wertz" > wrote in message
...
>>>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:37:38 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Steve Wertz" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:13:16 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Steve Wertz" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's a pretty stupid statement, even if it is directed as
>>>>>>>> Sheldon. MSG is fine when used at the right time and place.
>>>>>>>> Just like salt.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nah. It's a cob job in the world of food.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just like salt and pepper, right?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll agree when you can show me an ongoing debate about people feeling
>>>>> ill
>>>>> from eating pepper.
>>>>
>>>> <sigh> That's too easy:
>>>> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...&btnG=S earch
>>>> Almost as many hits as MSG.
>>>>
>>>> I notice you didn't want to bring up salt - which is supposedly
>>>> killing people VIA hypertension.
>>>>
>>>> Not to mention fat, another crucial flavoring that is killing
>>>> people.
>>>>
>>>> So what's different about MSG, salt, fat, and pepper? MSG isn't
>>>> killing people like salt - that I've heard of, at least.
>>>>
>>>> -sw
>>>
>>>How do you explain the fact that good cooks can make fabulous food without
>>>adding MSG?
>>>
>>
>> most good cooks would not completely rule out any ingredient,
>> especially a spice-type ingredient.
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>
>Is polysorbate-80 a "spice type ingredient"? When I think of spices, I tend
>to think mostly of things which come from plants.
>

polysorbate-80 is not remotely like m.s.g., or a spice for that
matter. don't be stupider than you have to be.

your pal,
blake

On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:41:01 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
> wrote:

>"Peter A" > wrote in message
...
>> In article >,
>> says...
>>> Is polysorbate-80 a "spice type ingredient"? When I think of spices, I
>>> tend
>>> to think mostly of things which come from plants.
>>>
>>
>> MSG originally came from seaweed.
>>
>> --
>> Peter Aitken
>
>zzzzzzzz........
>
uh-oh, peter, you're confusing him with facts...

your pal,
blake

On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:54:05 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
> wrote:

>"James Silverton" > wrote in message
>news:PdVIi.17$9r4.8@trnddc04...
>
>
>> I wonder how people tell that "good cooks" have not used MSG
>
>Umm....stand next to them and watch?
>
no good cooks you've watched have used it, so therefore no good cooks
do. gotcha.

your pal,
blake

On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:55:20 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
> wrote:

>"Bobo Bonobo®" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>> On Sep 21, 1:54 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
>>> "James Silverton" > wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:PdVIi.17$9r4.8@trnddc04...
>>>
>>> > I wonder how people tell that "good cooks" have not used MSG
>>>
>>> Umm....stand next to them and watch?
>>
>> I like watching. Problem is, most people won't let you.
>>
>> --Bryan
>>
>
>I spent a year socializing off & on with a chef trained at Culinary
>Institute. We discussed MSG once, after ordering at a Chinese restaurant. He
>said the subject never comes up in classes at CIA. This doesn't address all
>the exceptions which others will now introduce to the discussion, but we
>can't control that and who cares.
>
well, if you can't trust one chef at the c.i.a., who can you trust?

your pal,
blake

On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:14:38 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
> wrote:

>"blake murphy" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:37:38 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>"Steve Wertz" > wrote in message
...
>>>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:13:16 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Steve Wertz" > wrote in message
>>>>>
>>>>>> That's a pretty stupid statement, even if it is directed as
>>>>>> Sheldon. MSG is fine when used at the right time and place.
>>>>>> Just like salt.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nah. It's a cob job in the world of food.
>>>>
>>>> Just like salt and pepper, right?
>>>>
>>>> -sw
>>>
>>>
>>>I'll agree when you can show me an ongoing debate about people feeling ill
>>>from eating pepper.
>>>
>>>MSG does nothing but make your mouth water.
>>>
>>
>> you have heard of umami?
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umami
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>
>No - that's interesting.
>
well, it explains why some good cooks use it.

your pal,
blake

On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 23:46:39 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
> wrote:

>"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
>> On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:14:38 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>
>>> "blake murphy" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:37:38 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>"Steve Wertz" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:13:16 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Steve Wertz" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's a pretty stupid statement, even if it is directed as
>>>>>>>> Sheldon. MSG is fine when used at the right time and place.
>>>>>>>> Just like salt.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nah. It's a cob job in the world of food.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just like salt and pepper, right?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -sw
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I'll agree when you can show me an ongoing debate about people feeling
>>>>>ill
>>>>>from eating pepper.
>>>>>
>>>>>MSG does nothing but make your mouth water.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> you have heard of umami?
>>>>
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umami
>>>>
>>>> your pal,
>>>> blake
>>>
>>> No - that's interesting.
>>
>> And you're the same guy that just <zzzzzzzz>'s when someone said
>> it was made from seaweed?
>>
>> I would have thought anyone arguing about MSG would know about
>> umami.
>>
>> -sw
>
>What is so strange about not wanting (prepare to read three time)
>
>MAN MADE
>MAN MADE
>MAN MADE
>
>additives in my food?
>

then maybe you should have said, 'i don't use m.s.g. because i don't
like man-made ingredients in my food' rather than 'no good cook uses
m.s.g.'

your pal,
blake

"blake murphy" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:12:50 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
> > wrote:
>
>>"blake murphy" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:03:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Steve Wertz" > wrote in message
...
>>>>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:37:38 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Steve Wertz" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:13:16 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Steve Wertz" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That's a pretty stupid statement, even if it is directed as
>>>>>>>>> Sheldon. MSG is fine when used at the right time and place.
>>>>>>>>> Just like salt.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nah. It's a cob job in the world of food.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just like salt and pepper, right?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll agree when you can show me an ongoing debate about people
>>>>>> feeling
>>>>>> ill
>>>>>> from eating pepper.
>>>>>
>>>>> <sigh> That's too easy:
>>>>> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...&btnG=S earch
>>>>> Almost as many hits as MSG.
>>>>>
>>>>> I notice you didn't want to bring up salt - which is supposedly
>>>>> killing people VIA hypertension.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not to mention fat, another crucial flavoring that is killing
>>>>> people.
>>>>>
>>>>> So what's different about MSG, salt, fat, and pepper? MSG isn't
>>>>> killing people like salt - that I've heard of, at least.
>>>>>
>>>>> -sw
>>>>
>>>>How do you explain the fact that good cooks can make fabulous food
>>>>without
>>>>adding MSG?
>>>>
>>>
>>> most good cooks would not completely rule out any ingredient,
>>> especially a spice-type ingredient.
>>>
>>> your pal,
>>> blake
>>
>>Is polysorbate-80 a "spice type ingredient"? When I think of spices, I
>>tend
>>to think mostly of things which come from plants.
>>
>
> polysorbate-80 is not remotely like m.s.g., or a spice for that
> matter. don't be stupider than you have to be.
>
> your pal,
> blake

We're all done here. It has become a game, not a discussion.

"blake murphy" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:55:20 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
> > wrote:
>
>>"Bobo Bonobo®" > wrote in message
roups.com...
>>> On Sep 21, 1:54 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
>>>> "James Silverton" > wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> news:PdVIi.17$9r4.8@trnddc04...
>>>>
>>>> > I wonder how people tell that "good cooks" have not used MSG
>>>>
>>>> Umm....stand next to them and watch?
>>>
>>> I like watching. Problem is, most people won't let you.
>>>
>>> --Bryan
>>>
>>
>>I spent a year socializing off & on with a chef trained at Culinary
>>Institute. We discussed MSG once, after ordering at a Chinese restaurant.
>>He
>>said the subject never comes up in classes at CIA. This doesn't address
>>all
>>the exceptions which others will now introduce to the discussion, but we
>>can't control that and who cares.
>>
> well, if you can't trust one chef at the c.i.a., who can you trust?
>
> your pal,
> blake

How about all his teachers, who never mentioned MSG?

"blake murphy" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:54:05 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
> > wrote:
>
>>"James Silverton" > wrote in message
>>news:PdVIi.17$9r4.8@trnddc04...
>>
>>
>>> I wonder how people tell that "good cooks" have not used MSG
>>
>>Umm....stand next to them and watch?
>>
> no good cooks you've watched have used it, so therefore no good cooks
> do. gotcha.
>
> your pal,
> blake


I can't watch them all. I'm busy.

"blake murphy" > wrote in message
news
> On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 23:46:39 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
> > wrote:
>
>>"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
>>> On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:14:38 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>
>>>> "blake murphy" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:37:38 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>"Steve Wertz" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:13:16 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Steve Wertz" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That's a pretty stupid statement, even if it is directed as
>>>>>>>>> Sheldon. MSG is fine when used at the right time and place.
>>>>>>>>> Just like salt.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nah. It's a cob job in the world of food.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just like salt and pepper, right?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -sw
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I'll agree when you can show me an ongoing debate about people feeling
>>>>>>ill
>>>>>>from eating pepper.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>MSG does nothing but make your mouth water.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> you have heard of umami?
>>>>>
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umami
>>>>>
>>>>> your pal,
>>>>> blake
>>>>
>>>> No - that's interesting.
>>>
>>> And you're the same guy that just <zzzzzzzz>'s when someone said
>>> it was made from seaweed?
>>>
>>> I would have thought anyone arguing about MSG would know about
>>> umami.
>>>
>>> -sw
>>
>>What is so strange about not wanting (prepare to read three time)
>>
>>MAN MADE
>>MAN MADE
>>MAN MADE
>>
>>additives in my food?
>>
>
> then maybe you should have said, 'i don't use m.s.g. because i don't
> like man-made ingredients in my food' rather than 'no good cook uses
> m.s.g.'
>
> your pal,
> blake

And around we go in circles.

No good cook adds MSG. I know because I just know these things. I am
omniscient. Scary, but true.

"JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote in message
...
> "blake murphy" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:12:50 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>"blake murphy" > wrote in message
...
>>>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:03:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>"Steve Wertz" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:37:38 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Steve Wertz" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:13:16 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Steve Wertz" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That's a pretty stupid statement, even if it is directed as
>>>>>>>>>> Sheldon. MSG is fine when used at the right time and place.
>>>>>>>>>> Just like salt.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nah. It's a cob job in the world of food.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just like salt and pepper, right?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll agree when you can show me an ongoing debate about people
>>>>>>> feeling
>>>>>>> ill
>>>>>>> from eating pepper.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <sigh> That's too easy:
>>>>>> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...&btnG=S earch
>>>>>> Almost as many hits as MSG.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I notice you didn't want to bring up salt - which is supposedly
>>>>>> killing people VIA hypertension.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not to mention fat, another crucial flavoring that is killing
>>>>>> people.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So what's different about MSG, salt, fat, and pepper? MSG isn't
>>>>>> killing people like salt - that I've heard of, at least.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -sw
>>>>>
>>>>>How do you explain the fact that good cooks can make fabulous food
>>>>>without
>>>>>adding MSG?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> most good cooks would not completely rule out any ingredient,
>>>> especially a spice-type ingredient.
>>>>
>>>> your pal,
>>>> blake
>>>
>>>Is polysorbate-80 a "spice type ingredient"? When I think of spices, I
>>>tend
>>>to think mostly of things which come from plants.
>>>
>>
>> polysorbate-80 is not remotely like m.s.g., or a spice for that
>> matter. don't be stupider than you have to be.
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>
> We're all done here. It has become a game, not a discussion.
>
Heh heh. So, you admit you've lost? Typical post from the loser.

"Bob" > wrote in message ...
> "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote in message
>>>>Is polysorbate-80 a "spice type ingredient"? When I think of spices, I
>>>>tend
>>>>to think mostly of things which come from plants.
>>>>
>>>
>>> polysorbate-80 is not remotely like m.s.g., or a spice for that
>>> matter. don't be stupider than you have to be.
>>>
>>> your pal,
>>> blake
>>
>> We're all done here. It has become a game, not a discussion.
>>
> Heh heh. So, you admit you've lost? Typical post from the loser.
>
>

You must feel powerful. What's next? Beat the little wife?

"JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote in message
...
> "blake murphy" > wrote in message
> news
>> On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 23:46:39 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
>>>> On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:14:38 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "blake murphy" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:37:38 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Steve Wertz" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:13:16 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Steve Wertz" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That's a pretty stupid statement, even if it is directed as
>>>>>>>>>> Sheldon. MSG is fine when used at the right time and place.
>>>>>>>>>> Just like salt.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nah. It's a cob job in the world of food.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just like salt and pepper, right?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -sw
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I'll agree when you can show me an ongoing debate about people
>>>>>>>feeling
>>>>>>>ill
>>>>>>>from eating pepper.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>MSG does nothing but make your mouth water.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> you have heard of umami?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umami
>>>>>>
>>>>>> your pal,
>>>>>> blake
>>>>>
>>>>> No - that's interesting.
>>>>
>>>> And you're the same guy that just <zzzzzzzz>'s when someone said
>>>> it was made from seaweed?
>>>>
>>>> I would have thought anyone arguing about MSG would know about
>>>> umami.
>>>>
>>>> -sw
>>>
>>>What is so strange about not wanting (prepare to read three time)
>>>
>>>MAN MADE
>>>MAN MADE
>>>MAN MADE
>>>
>>>additives in my food?
>>>
>>
>> then maybe you should have said, 'i don't use m.s.g. because i don't
>> like man-made ingredients in my food' rather than 'no good cook uses
>> m.s.g.'
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>
> And around we go in circles.
>
> No good cook adds MSG. I know because I just know these things. I am
> omniscient. Scary, but true.
>
You said that you were done with this in another post (one minute earlier),
virtually admitting defeat. Now you're back for more? I bet Blake can keep
on kicking you around if you let him.

"JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote in message
...
> "Bob" > wrote in message ...
>> "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote in message
>>>>>Is polysorbate-80 a "spice type ingredient"? When I think of spices, I
>>>>>tend
>>>>>to think mostly of things which come from plants.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> polysorbate-80 is not remotely like m.s.g., or a spice for that
>>>> matter. don't be stupider than you have to be.
>>>>
>>>> your pal,
>>>> blake
>>>
>>> We're all done here. It has become a game, not a discussion.
>>>
>> Heh heh. So, you admit you've lost? Typical post from the loser.
>>
>>
>
> You must feel powerful. What's next? Beat the little wife?
>
Non-sequitor. You do that a lot when you've lost a discussion or an
argument. You do have a knack for turning discussions into arguments..

Oh, and no, unlike you, I don't beat my wife.

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> "Bob" > wrote in message ...
>> "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote in message
>>>>> Is polysorbate-80 a "spice type ingredient"? When I think of spices, I
>>>>> tend
>>>>> to think mostly of things which come from plants.
>>>>>
>>>> polysorbate-80 is not remotely like m.s.g., or a spice for that
>>>> matter. don't be stupider than you have to be.
>>>>
>>>> your pal,
>>>> blake
>>> We're all done here. It has become a game, not a discussion.
>>>
>> Heh heh. So, you admit you've lost? Typical post from the loser.
>>
>>
>
> You must feel powerful. What's next? Beat the little wife?
>
>


You **** people off everywhere you post, Doug. You might want to reel
it in a bit or your "buddies" from your other groups will attack this
group, too.

"Dan" <intrceptor@gmaildotcom> wrote in message
.. .
> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>> "Bob" > wrote in message ...
>>> "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote in message
>>>>>> Is polysorbate-80 a "spice type ingredient"? When I think of spices,
>>>>>> I tend
>>>>>> to think mostly of things which come from plants.
>>>>>>
>>>>> polysorbate-80 is not remotely like m.s.g., or a spice for that
>>>>> matter. don't be stupider than you have to be.
>>>>>
>>>>> your pal,
>>>>> blake
>>>> We're all done here. It has become a game, not a discussion.
>>>>
>>> Heh heh. So, you admit you've lost? Typical post from the loser.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> You must feel powerful. What's next? Beat the little wife?
>
>
> You **** people off everywhere you post, Doug. You might want to reel it
> in a bit or your "buddies" from your other groups will attack this group,
> too.


Your presence is proof of this, Dan. You like to follow me around.

Why is that?

On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 21:50:32 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
> wrote:

>"blake murphy" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:55:20 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>"Bobo Bonobo®" > wrote in message
groups.com...
>>>> On Sep 21, 1:54 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
>>>>> "James Silverton" > wrote in message
>>>>>
>>>>> news:PdVIi.17$9r4.8@trnddc04...
>>>>>
>>>>> > I wonder how people tell that "good cooks" have not used MSG
>>>>>
>>>>> Umm....stand next to them and watch?
>>>>
>>>> I like watching. Problem is, most people won't let you.
>>>>
>>>> --Bryan
>>>>
>>>
>>>I spent a year socializing off & on with a chef trained at Culinary
>>>Institute. We discussed MSG once, after ordering at a Chinese restaurant.
>>>He
>>>said the subject never comes up in classes at CIA. This doesn't address
>>>all
>>>the exceptions which others will now introduce to the discussion, but we
>>>can't control that and who cares.
>>>
>> well, if you can't trust one chef at the c.i.a., who can you trust?
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>
>How about all his teachers, who never mentioned MSG?
>

if they all cooked european-style food, it's very plausible. there
are other styles of cooking.

your pal,
blake

On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 21:51:34 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
> wrote:

>"blake murphy" > wrote in message
>news
>> On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 23:46:39 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
>>>> On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:14:38 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "blake murphy" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:37:38 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Steve Wertz" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:13:16 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Steve Wertz" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That's a pretty stupid statement, even if it is directed as
>>>>>>>>>> Sheldon. MSG is fine when used at the right time and place.
>>>>>>>>>> Just like salt.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nah. It's a cob job in the world of food.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just like salt and pepper, right?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -sw
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I'll agree when you can show me an ongoing debate about people feeling
>>>>>>>ill
>>>>>>>from eating pepper.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>MSG does nothing but make your mouth water.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> you have heard of umami?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umami
>>>>>>
>>>>>> your pal,
>>>>>> blake
>>>>>
>>>>> No - that's interesting.
>>>>
>>>> And you're the same guy that just <zzzzzzzz>'s when someone said
>>>> it was made from seaweed?
>>>>
>>>> I would have thought anyone arguing about MSG would know about
>>>> umami.
>>>>
>>>> -sw
>>>
>>>What is so strange about not wanting (prepare to read three time)
>>>
>>>MAN MADE
>>>MAN MADE
>>>MAN MADE
>>>
>>>additives in my food?
>>>
>>
>> then maybe you should have said, 'i don't use m.s.g. because i don't
>> like man-made ingredients in my food' rather than 'no good cook uses
>> m.s.g.'
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>
>And around we go in circles.
>
>No good cook adds MSG. I know because I just know these things. I am
>omniscient. Scary, but true.
>

then you must know that a lot of people think you're wrong. i know,
silly them.

your pal,
blake

On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 21:50:04 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
> wrote:

>"blake murphy" > wrote in message
.. .

>>>
>>>Is polysorbate-80 a "spice type ingredient"? When I think of spices, I
>>>tend
>>>to think mostly of things which come from plants.
>>>
>>
>> polysorbate-80 is not remotely like m.s.g., or a spice for that
>> matter. don't be stupider than you have to be.
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>
>We're all done here. It has become a game, not a discussion.
>

and you're taking your ball and going home. well done.

your pal,
blake

On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 19:29:12 -0400, "Bob" > wrote:

>
>"JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote in message
...
>> "Bob" > wrote in message ...
>>> "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote in message
>>>>>>Is polysorbate-80 a "spice type ingredient"? When I think of spices, I
>>>>>>tend
>>>>>>to think mostly of things which come from plants.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> polysorbate-80 is not remotely like m.s.g., or a spice for that
>>>>> matter. don't be stupider than you have to be.
>>>>>
>>>>> your pal,
>>>>> blake
>>>>
>>>> We're all done here. It has become a game, not a discussion.
>>>>
>>> Heh heh. So, you admit you've lost? Typical post from the loser.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> You must feel powerful. What's next? Beat the little wife?
>>
>Non-sequitor. You do that a lot when you've lost a discussion or an
>argument. You do have a knack for turning discussions into arguments..
>
>Oh, and no, unlike you, I don't beat my wife.
>
you should try it. it's more satisfying than making ding-dongs on the
net look foolish.

your pal,
blake

"blake murphy" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 21:50:04 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
> > wrote:
>
>>"blake murphy" > wrote in message
. ..
>
>>>>
>>>>Is polysorbate-80 a "spice type ingredient"? When I think of spices, I
>>>>tend
>>>>to think mostly of things which come from plants.
>>>>
>>>
>>> polysorbate-80 is not remotely like m.s.g., or a spice for that
>>> matter. don't be stupider than you have to be.
>>>
>>> your pal,
>>> blake
>>
>>We're all done here. It has become a game, not a discussion.
>>
>
> and you're taking your ball and going home. well done.
>
> your pal,
> blake

After 23 innings, it gets a bit silly, don't you think?

Anything added to food is an additive. Wanna debate semantics for another
week?

"JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote in message
...
> "blake murphy" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 21:50:04 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>"blake murphy" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Is polysorbate-80 a "spice type ingredient"? When I think of spices, I
>>>>>tend
>>>>>to think mostly of things which come from plants.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> polysorbate-80 is not remotely like m.s.g., or a spice for that
>>>> matter. don't be stupider than you have to be.
>>>>
>>>> your pal,
>>>> blake
>>>
>>>We're all done here. It has become a game, not a discussion.
>>>
>>
>> and you're taking your ball and going home. well done.
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>
> After 23 innings, it gets a bit silly, don't you think?

And 23 of them were you getting your butt kicked.
>
> Anything added to food is an additive. Wanna debate semantics for another
> week?

With you? You can't ever answer a direct question, and then you try to turn
everything into an argument. When you're proven wrong, you selectively
snip and twist words.
>
>

"Bob" > wrote in message ...
>
> "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "blake murphy" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 21:50:04 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>"blake murphy" > wrote in message
m...
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Is polysorbate-80 a "spice type ingredient"? When I think of spices, I
>>>>>>tend
>>>>>>to think mostly of things which come from plants.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> polysorbate-80 is not remotely like m.s.g., or a spice for that
>>>>> matter. don't be stupider than you have to be.
>>>>>
>>>>> your pal,
>>>>> blake
>>>>
>>>>We're all done here. It has become a game, not a discussion.
>>>>
>>>
>>> and you're taking your ball and going home. well done.
>>>
>>> your pal,
>>> blake
>>
>> After 23 innings, it gets a bit silly, don't you think?
>
> And 23 of them were you getting your butt kicked.
>>
>> Anything added to food is an additive. Wanna debate semantics for another
>> week?
>
> With you? You can't ever answer a direct question, and then you try to
> turn everything into an argument. When you're proven wrong, you
> selectively snip and twist words.

That's fun, don't you think?

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> "Dan" <intrceptor@gmaildotcom> wrote in message
> .. .
>> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>> "Bob" > wrote in message ...
>>>> "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> Is polysorbate-80 a "spice type ingredient"? When I think of spices,
>>>>>>> I tend
>>>>>>> to think mostly of things which come from plants.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> polysorbate-80 is not remotely like m.s.g., or a spice for that
>>>>>> matter. don't be stupider than you have to be.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> your pal,
>>>>>> blake
>>>>> We're all done here. It has become a game, not a discussion.
>>>>>
>>>> Heh heh. So, you admit you've lost? Typical post from the loser.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> You must feel powerful. What's next? Beat the little wife?
>>
>> You **** people off everywhere you post, Doug. You might want to reel it
>> in a bit or your "buddies" from your other groups will attack this group,
>> too.
>
>
> Your presence is proof of this, Dan. You like to follow me around.
>
> Why is that?
>
>

I followed you, Doug?

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 20:48:28 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>
>> Anything added to food is an additive. Wanna debate semantics for another
>> week?
>
> So that would make ketchup on French fries an additive. Or yeast
> to wheat flour an additive. Or ice to scotch an additive.
>
> -sw

Sure.