Only thing I can say is -- Jamie is not facing reality -- these kids are
not cooks -- even after be "trained". I think he really needs to do a
more thorough selection process -- the tasting test in the first episode
was pretty stupid. Seems like he'll hopefully re-think this thing next
time.

Anyone watching this miniseries?

--
JaKe, Seattle
"Smooth jazz is elevator music"
Drummer Joe Chambers

JaKe wrote:
> Only thing I can say is -- Jamie is not facing reality -- these kids
> are not cooks -- even after be "trained". I think he really needs to
> do a more thorough selection process -- the tasting test in the first
> episode was pretty stupid. Seems like he'll hopefully re-think this
> thing next time.
>
> Anyone watching this miniseries?

Yes I have watched the whole series as well as the followup 6 month later.
He wasn't looking for cooks. He wanted people who needed to work. He
trained them and most of them have completed their courses, graduated and
gone on to work at some very notable restaurants (Chez Panisse and French
Laundry just to name 2).

I think Jamie faced reality quite well. He is one of the few people out
their who have made it and are giving back something huge in return.

Cristina

cristina > wrote:

> Yes I have watched the whole series as well as the followup 6 month later.
> He wasn't looking for cooks. He wanted people who needed to work. He
> trained them and most of them have completed their courses, graduated and
> gone on to work at some very notable restaurants (Chez Panisse and French
> Laundry just to name 2).

Seeing that two of them went to CP and FL stunned me. Not in a bad way,
it's great that they went on to great places, and hopefully to do good
things. I can't wait to see if the second group turns out like the
first...

> I think Jamie faced reality quite well. He is one of the few people out
> their who have made it and are giving back something huge in return.

Seriously. He's put a lot at stake for Fifteen, and thankfully, he's
getting some rewards. A course, I sure don't look at him the same. But
I totally respect him for what he's doing.
--
'Tis Herself

Herself wrote:
> Seriously. He's put a lot at stake for Fifteen, and thankfully, he's
> getting some rewards. A course, I sure don't look at him the same.
> But
> I totally respect him for what he's doing.

I love how the view of him by the public has changed since the show came
out. People may not like the way he talks or his hair or the camera work
but everyone that I have talked to who hated him before changed their minds
after this series. Total respect.

Cristina

cristina wrote:

> I love how the view of him by the public has changed since the show came
> out. People may not like the way he talks or his hair or the camera work
> but everyone that I have talked to who hated him before changed their minds
> after this series. Total respect.
>
> Cristina

YES!! I just posted about this same sentiment. I never saw such a
professional side of him, but also a very caring, concerned side for
these kids (slugs, some) futures. The headaches he must have
experienced. Now, it seems many here know the ending already-did I miss
something? Is there some website or information about the final results?
Goomba

Goomba > wrote:

> YES!! I just posted about this same sentiment. I never saw such a
> professional side of him, but also a very caring, concerned side for
> these kids (slugs, some) futures. The headaches he must have
> experienced. Now, it seems many here know the ending already-did I miss
> something? Is there some website or information about the final results?

No, it already aired in the UK/Ireland. We've seen the 6-months-later
show (two weeks ago, I think?). So we know the nitty-gritty :-). You
could probably look it up on the Channel 4 website. (www.channel4.com)


--
'Tis Herself

> People may not like the way he talks

############
He has a MAJOR speech impediment. BG

BillKirch > wrote:

> > People may not like the way he talks
>
> ############
> He has a MAJOR speech impediment. BG

A minor lisp? Or the fact that he's British?
--
'Tis Herself

BillKirch > wrote:

> > People may not like the way he talks
>
> ############
> He has a MAJOR speech impediment. BG

That's the way they talk where he comes from.

Herself wrote:
>
> cristina > wrote:
>
> > Yes I have watched the whole series as well as the followup 6 month later.
> > He wasn't looking for cooks. He wanted people who needed to work. He
> > trained them and most of them have completed their courses, graduated and
> > gone on to work at some very notable restaurants (Chez Panisse and French
> > Laundry just to name 2).
>
> Seeing that two of them went to CP and FL stunned me. Not in a bad way,
> it's great that they went on to great places, and hopefully to do good
> things. I can't wait to see if the second group turns out like the
> first...
>
> > I think Jamie faced reality quite well. He is one of the few people out
> > their who have made it and are giving back something huge in return.
>
> Seriously. He's put a lot at stake for Fifteen, and thankfully, he's
> getting some rewards. A course, I sure don't look at him the same. But
> I totally respect him for what he's doing.
> --
> 'Tis Herself

Don't get me wrong, I totally agree with what he's doing too!

--
JaKe, Seattle
"Smooth jazz is elevator music"
Drummer Joe Chambers

JaKe > wrote:

> Don't get me wrong, I totally agree with what he's doing too!

yeah, but you said they weren't cooks :-). that's what we were
responding to. The ones who did the whole thing turned out pretty good.
And it's almost impossible to get a booking at Fifteen (we tried!!)
--
'Tis Herself

JaKe wrote:
>
> Only thing I can say is -- Jamie is not facing reality -- these kids are
> not cooks -- even after be "trained". I think he really needs to do a
> more thorough selection process -- the tasting test in the first episode
> was pretty stupid. Seems like he'll hopefully re-think this thing next
> time.
>
> Anyone watching this miniseries?

I'm thinking they were expecting too much from kids who seem slow,
in a few cases. Others just seem flat out lazy.

nancy

Nancy Young wrote:
> JaKe wrote:
>>
>> Only thing I can say is -- Jamie is not facing reality -- these kids
>> are not cooks -- even after be "trained". I think he really needs
>> to do a more thorough selection process -- the tasting test in the
>> first episode was pretty stupid. Seems like he'll hopefully
>> re-think this thing next time.
>>
>> Anyone watching this miniseries?
>
> I'm thinking they were expecting too much from kids who seem slow,
> in a few cases. Others just seem flat out lazy.

Classic youth of today IMO. Want everything for nothing.

Cristina

cristina wrote:
>
> Nancy Young wrote:

> > I'm thinking they were expecting too much from kids who seem slow,
> > in a few cases. Others just seem flat out lazy.
>
> Classic youth of today IMO. Want everything for nothing.

Perhaps because of the business I was in, I've met all kinds. Yup,
some seemed astonished that they would have to work for a living,
others worked their butt off. Can't say that was any different
from people my age and older, though. Just my observation.

nancy

Nancy Young > wrote in
:

> JaKe wrote:
>>
>> Only thing I can say is -- Jamie is not facing reality -- these kids are
>> not cooks -- even after be "trained". I think he really needs to do a
>> more thorough selection process -- the tasting test in the first episode
>> was pretty stupid. Seems like he'll hopefully re-think this thing next
>> time.
>>
>> Anyone watching this miniseries?
>
> I'm thinking they were expecting too much from kids who seem slow,
> in a few cases. Others just seem flat out lazy.

I thought he was really expecting, and asking, quite a lot. He selected
people who "needed a break" - unemployed for various reasons, perhaps
"problem" students/employees, and then required them to undertake
accelerated training. He mentioned a few times during the series things
like - "I was in the kitchen a year before I was even allowed to do such
and such" - things the kids in the series were being expected to do after a
couple of months.

Yep - some were flat out lazy, and some are probably just not suited to
this career, but some turned out quite well - going by the results shown in
the follow up shows some months later. He's doing it again, so obviously he
found it worthwhile.


--
Rhonda Anderson
Penrith, NSW, Australia

JaKe wrote:
>
> Only thing I can say is -- Jamie is not facing reality -- these kids are
> not cooks -- even after be "trained". I think he really needs to do a
> more thorough selection process -- the tasting test in the first episode
> was pretty stupid. Seems like he'll hopefully re-think this thing next
> time.
>
> Anyone watching this miniseries?

I am. And I have to say while the student are all annoying pills, my
respect for Jamie has gone up immeasurably. He's quite the mature
professional it seems. I had a totally different idea of him from his
other shows. I only wish he'd sack Michelle and that fat blond chick
(can't recall her name) and get it over with. They have let them get
away with such atrocious bad work habits that it's shocking. If they
don't show up, they ought to be outta there!
Goomba

>They have let them get
>away with such atrocious bad work habits that it's shocking. If they
>don't show up, they ought to be outta there!

I work in a cafeteria and atrocious work habits seem to be the norm. They
recently hired one young guy (He's 28) He said he had worked here and there and
so forth and had tons or work experience. BTW they never checked his or anyone
else's references. We have rules but you would never know it by his work
habits.
For example, everyone has to wear a clean white shirt to work, if it's
short sleeved that's fine, if it's long sleeved that fine too BUT you have to
leave the sleeves down while you work the Boss thinks it tacky to have someone
work there with sleeves rolled up. The guy rolled up his sleeves and no one
said anything to him. Then there was the thing about him handing over a piece
of fried food to anyone who inquired about it. We serve fried zucchini, fried
cauliflower and fried eggplant. He would causally hand over a piece of whatever
we were serving to anyone who asked, " What's that?"
Also behind the line we have a phone. People call in take out orders to be
delivered (our store is in a mall we deliver to any store in the mall). He uses
that phone likes it's his own. One night after work he made 5 phone calls one
after the other and stayed on the phone for 15 minutes. When they told him he
had to get off the phone he said he was just trying to find a ride home.
Also 3 times since he started the cab company has sent a cab out and no one
knows who called for it. He calls and then if he gets a better offer he leaves
and we get stuck telling the poor cab guy. No one here wants the cab. The cab
company is going to stop taking calls from the mall if this keeps up.
Also on a personal note he flirted with some little girl and she bought
him a bunch of clothes. Maxed out her credit card and now he won't talk to her
or take her calls. One of the men who works there knows her and is furious
about it but this guy thinks he did nothing wrong. He told one little girl who
works there he would drive her home and then left her. She had to wait an hour
for someone else to give her a ride. She doesn't have a car and has braces on
her legs. It's not his responsibility to drive her but don't offer and then
split.
Also he is a One -Hit -wonder meaning he can only do one thing. He can
serve vegetables. They asked him to relieve someone one night so they could go
on break and he did such a poor job they don't ask him anymore. I heard him
telling someone that the best way not to get moved around is to do things badly
so they won't move you.
I feel the guy is a user, a con man and an all around no good bum who
will lie his way through life as long as it gets him ahead of others. Maybe he
feels life is a game and he is just scamming his way through the game. Lazy
no-count clod of wasted humanity.


Amber
( Guess you can tell I don't like this guy)

>I feel the guy is a user, a con man and an all around no good bum who
>will lie his way through life as long as it gets him ahead of others.

#############
In other words...an ASSHOLE. BG

oads (BillKirch) said in the newsgroup.......
:

>>I feel the guy is a user, a con man and an all around no good bum who
>>will lie his way through life as long as it gets him ahead of others.
>
> #############
> In other words...an ASSHOLE. BG
>

As an aside..... he was going off during the making of JK saying that he was
putting his money on the line and it was going to break him etc, because the
budget had "blown" out to about 2 million Pounds. It was revealed, here in
Brisbane, by another chef that Jamie has made approx AUD$40 million per year
for the past 4 years!!
And he's crying poor??!!

--
Peter Lucas # Loyalty above all else, #
Brisbane # except honour. #
Australia

>From: Lucas

>It was revealed, here in
>Brisbane, by another chef

What chef is that?

Ellen

"JaKe" > wrote in message
...
> Only thing I can say is -- Jamie is not facing reality -- these kids are
> not cooks -- even after be "trained". I think he really needs to do a
> more thorough selection process -- the tasting test in the first episode
> was pretty stupid. Seems like he'll hopefully re-think this thing next
> time.
>
> Anyone watching this miniseries?

Yes, I've been enjoying watching it, although I do agree that he could have
been a lot more rigorous in his screening process. He has a handful of
immature kids trying to get away with doing nothing in the kitchen, and a
mess on his hands, I'm afraid.

Jimmy Tango > wrote:

> Yes, I've been enjoying watching it, although I do agree that he could have
> been a lot more rigorous in his screening process. He has a handful of
> immature kids trying to get away with doing nothing in the kitchen, and a
> mess on his hands, I'm afraid.

He couldn't be much more rigorous...he'd have no one :-).
--
'Tis Herself

In article >,
JaKe > wrote:

> Only thing I can say is -- Jamie is not facing reality -- these kids are
> not cooks -- even after be "trained". I think he really needs to do a
> more thorough selection process -- the tasting test in the first episode
> was pretty stupid. Seems like he'll hopefully re-think this thing next
> time.
>
> Anyone watching this miniseries?

Yeah, I did. And stick with it -- they get a _lot_ better.

Miche

--
If you want to end war and stuff you got to sing loud.
-- Arlo Guthrie, "Alice's Restaurant"