I briefly heard on the news (radio) this morning something about Sams'
hamburger. For those who shop at Sams, give it a listen.
Dee Dee

Dee Dee wrote:
>
> I briefly heard on the news (radio) this morning something about Sams'
> hamburger. For those who shop at Sams, give it a listen.
> Dee Dee

More pre-formed frozen burger by-products. AFAIC anyone consuming those
things (can't even be called eating) deserves whatever ills may befall
them.

Dee Dee wrote:
> I briefly heard on the news (radio) this morning something about Sams'
> hamburger. For those who shop at Sams, give it a listen.
> Dee Dee
>
>
Anything worse than the normal "suppliers cut corners because of the low
prices demanded by Walmart and produced contaminated meat"?

Pete C. wrote:
> Dee Dee wrote:
>>
>> I briefly heard on the news (radio) this morning something about
>> Sams' hamburger. For those who shop at Sams, give it a listen.
>> Dee Dee
>
> More pre-formed frozen burger by-products. AFAIC anyone consuming
> those things (can't even be called eating) deserves whatever ills may
> befall them.

LOL I have to agree. Sheldon bitches about people not people grinding their
own beef and sausage. But if you buy frozen ground beef patties you really
have no clue what you're getting.

>I briefly heard on the news (radio) this morning something about Sams'
> hamburger. For those who shop at Sams, give it a listen.
> Dee Dee

http://www.kswo.com/Global/story.asp?S=7177579

On Sat, 6 Oct 2007 10:22:26 -0500, "jmcquown" >
wrote:

>Pete C. wrote:
>> Dee Dee wrote:
>>>
>>> I briefly heard on the news (radio) this morning something about
>>> Sams' hamburger. For those who shop at Sams, give it a listen.
>>> Dee Dee
>>
>> More pre-formed frozen burger by-products. AFAIC anyone consuming
>> those things (can't even be called eating) deserves whatever ills may
>> befall them.
>
>LOL I have to agree. Sheldon bitches about people not people grinding their
>own beef and sausage. But if you buy frozen ground beef patties you really
>have no clue what you're getting.
>
They buy those things and then they insist on cooking them medium rare
or worse. It's like they *want* to get sick.

On Oct 6, 12:09?pm, Peter A > wrote:
> In article >, says...
>
>
>
> > Dee Dee wrote:
>
> > > I briefly heard on the news (radio) this morning something about Sams'
> > > hamburger. For those who shop at Sams, give it a listen.
> > > Dee Dee
>
> > More pre-formed frozen burger by-products. AFAIC anyone consuming those
> > things (can't even be called eating) deserves whatever ills may befall
> > them.
>
> So, you think that if you're poor (and thus forced to shop at Sam's), or
> perhaps you just have bad taste, or you're trying a new product just to
> see how it is, then it's OK if you get potentially fatal food poisoning?
> Please explain your logic.
>
> Asshole.> Peter Aitken

Buying preground mystery meat has nothing whatsoer to do with being
economically challenged... has only to do with LAZY and LOW IQ.

Peter A wrote:
>
> In article >, says...
> >
> > Dee Dee wrote:
> > >
> > > I briefly heard on the news (radio) this morning something about Sams'
> > > hamburger. For those who shop at Sams, give it a listen.
> > > Dee Dee
> >
> > More pre-formed frozen burger by-products. AFAIC anyone consuming those
> > things (can't even be called eating) deserves whatever ills may befall
> > them.
> >
>
> So, you think that if you're poor (and thus forced to shop at Sam's), or
> perhaps you just have bad taste, or you're trying a new product just to
> see how it is, then it's OK if you get potentially fatal food poisoning?
> Please explain your logic.
>
> Asshole.
>
> --
> Peter Aitken

Well there are some idiotic assumptions. Being poor doesn't mean you
have to buy frozen burger by-products, nor does it force you to shop at
Sam's. Indeed the poor probably can't afford to shop at Sam's because
the package sizes are so big and not cheap. As for the bad taste to
consume such junk, yes, they deserve it, just as the people who eat
nothing but fast food deserve to be obese as most of them are. Personal
responsibility.

"Sheldon" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> On Oct 6, 12:09?pm, Peter A > wrote:
>> In article >, says...
>>
>>
>>
>> > Dee Dee wrote:
>>
>> > > I briefly heard on the news (radio) this morning something about
>> > > Sams'
>> > > hamburger. For those who shop at Sams, give it a listen.
>> > > Dee Dee
>>
>> > More pre-formed frozen burger by-products. AFAIC anyone consuming those
>> > things (can't even be called eating) deserves whatever ills may befall
>> > them.
>>
>> So, you think that if you're poor (and thus forced to shop at Sam's), or
>> perhaps you just have bad taste, or you're trying a new product just to
>> see how it is, then it's OK if you get potentially fatal food poisoning?
>> Please explain your logic.
>>
>> Asshole.> Peter Aitken
>
> Buying preground mystery meat has nothing whatsoer to do with being
> economically challenged... has only to do with LAZY and LOW IQ.
>

Don't forget something you said once: You don't like your local supermarket.
But, don't become Omaload and pretend stores in other places are identical
to yours. There *are* stores which grind their own meat correctly, and you
can trust the stuff.

Peter A wrote:
> In article >, says...
>> Dee Dee wrote:
>>> I briefly heard on the news (radio) this morning something about Sams'
>>> hamburger. For those who shop at Sams, give it a listen.
>>> Dee Dee
>> More pre-formed frozen burger by-products. AFAIC anyone consuming those
>> things (can't even be called eating) deserves whatever ills may befall
>> them.
>>
>
> So, you think that if you're poor (and thus forced to shop at Sam's),

Why would someone who is poor be forced to shop at Sams? There are
better and less expensive markets. They may just not have tires, garden
furniture and 100lb bags of fertilizer.

or
> perhaps you just have bad taste, or you're trying a new product just to
> see how it is, then it's OK if you get potentially fatal food poisoning?
> Please explain your logic.
>
> Asshole.
>

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 19:40:02 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>
>> Don't forget something you said once: You don't like your local
>> supermarket.
>> But, don't become Omaload and pretend stores in other places are
>> identical
>> to yours. There *are* stores which grind their own meat correctly, and
>> you
>> can trust the stuff.
>
> And for all the bragging and bitching Sheldon spews about grocery
> stores and delis, it kinda makes you wonder what kind of gourmet
> ********s he shops.
>
> -sw

According to him, there aren't any. It's a wasteland for shoppers.

Peter A wrote:
>
> In article >, says...
> > As for the bad taste to
> > consume such junk, yes, they deserve it, just as the people who eat
> > nothing but fast food deserve to be obese as most of them are.
> >
>
> Apparently you are illiterate. The topic has nothing to do with being
> obese, it has to do with getting an e coli infection from the meat - and
> the person I was responding to said the people who buy that meat
> "deserve" it.
>
> Maybe you should exercise your "personal responsibility" and take an
> adult literacy class.
>
> --
> Peter Aitken

Hey dimwit, you were responding to me, and I said that people who buy
and consume low grade frozen pre-formed burger byproduct deserve what
ills may befall them.

George wrote:
>
> Peter A wrote:
> > In article >, says...
> >> Dee Dee wrote:
> >>> I briefly heard on the news (radio) this morning something about Sams'
> >>> hamburger. For those who shop at Sams, give it a listen.
> >>> Dee Dee
> >> More pre-formed frozen burger by-products. AFAIC anyone consuming those
> >> things (can't even be called eating) deserves whatever ills may befall
> >> them.
> >>
> >
> > So, you think that if you're poor (and thus forced to shop at Sam's),
>
> Why would someone who is poor be forced to shop at Sams? There are
> better and less expensive markets. They may just not have tires, garden
> furniture and 100lb bags of fertilizer.

More importantly, Sam's sells in vary large packages for the most part,
so thing are not cheap there. The poor folks would be more likely to
shop at WalMart since they sell more "normal" sized packages.

>> More pre-formed frozen burger by-products. AFAIC anyone consuming those
>> things (can't even be called eating) deserves whatever ills may befall
>> them.
>>
>
> So, you think that if you're poor (and thus forced to shop at Sam's), or
> perhaps you just have bad taste, or you're trying a new product just to
> see how it is, then it's OK if you get potentially fatal food poisoning?
> Please explain your logic.
>
> Asshole.
>
> --
> Peter Aitken

Poor people shop at Sam's? Yeah right! I don't live close to a Costco so I
buy these items at Sam's...

Parmigiano Reggiano
Discounted Waterford Crystal for gifts
Rack of lamb
Fontina cheese
etc., etc.

In article >,
says...
> Pete C. wrote:
> > Dee Dee wrote:
> >>
> >> I briefly heard on the news (radio) this morning something about
> >> Sams' hamburger. For those who shop at Sams, give it a listen.
> >> Dee Dee
> >
> > More pre-formed frozen burger by-products. AFAIC anyone consuming
> > those things (can't even be called eating) deserves whatever ills may
> > befall them.
>
> LOL I have to agree. Sheldon bitches about people not people grinding their
> own beef and sausage. But if you buy frozen ground beef patties you really
> have no clue what you're getting.
>
>
One thing you know you'll be getting is WATER, sometimes salted, and
plenty of it, at whatever "meat" price they charged for those frozen
disks.

Mmmmm... "Bubba Burgers", indeed.

Bob

Pete C. wrote:


> Hey dimwit, you were responding to me, and I said that people who buy
> and consume low grade frozen pre-formed burger byproduct deserve what
> ills may befall them.

Bullshit. People deserve to get safe and wholesome products, period.




Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

Peter A wrote:
>
> In article >, says...
> > Peter A wrote:
> > >
> > > In article >, says...
> > > > As for the bad taste to
> > > > consume such junk, yes, they deserve it, just as the people who eat
> > > > nothing but fast food deserve to be obese as most of them are.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Apparently you are illiterate. The topic has nothing to do with being
> > > obese, it has to do with getting an e coli infection from the meat - and
> > > the person I was responding to said the people who buy that meat
> > > "deserve" it.
> > >
> > > Maybe you should exercise your "personal responsibility" and take an
> > > adult literacy class.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Peter Aitken
> >
> > Hey dimwit, you were responding to me, and I said that people who buy
> > and consume low grade frozen pre-formed burger byproduct deserve what
> > ills may befall them.
> >
>
> Yes, I know that's what you said. You think that such people "deserve"
> to get an e coli infection that may kill them. You're a real prince -
> and illiterate to boot.
>
> --
> Peter Aitken

The evolutionary process has to continue somehow, and if that includes
people killing themselves with bad food choices so be it.

Peter A wrote:
>
> In article >,
> lid says...
> > > So, you think that if you're poor (and thus forced to shop at Sam's),
> >
> > Why would someone who is poor be forced to shop at Sams? There are
> > better and less expensive markets. They may just not have tires, garden
> > furniture and 100lb bags of fertilizer.
> >
>
> Yet again, an RFCer ignores the topic under discussion and goes off on a
> totally unrelated tangent.
>
> --
> Peter Aitken

It's your tangent. We were discussing the recalled frozen pre-formed
burger by-products.

Peter A wrote:
>
> In article >,
> says...
> > >
> > > So, you think that if you're poor (and thus forced to shop at Sam's), or
> > > perhaps you just have bad taste, or you're trying a new product just to
> > > see how it is, then it's OK if you get potentially fatal food poisoning?
> > > Please explain your logic.
> > >
> > > Asshole.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Peter Aitken
> >
> > Poor people shop at Sam's? Yeah right! I don't live close to a Costco so I
> > buy these items at Sam's...
> >
>
> Another illiterate, christ on a crutch, is there some sort of invasion?
>
> I DID NOT SAY that all people who shop at Sams are poor.
>
> --
> Peter Aitken

No, you indicated that poor people are forced to shop at Sam's - "if
you're poor (and thus forced to shop at Sam's)". It's you who needs to
work on your literacy it seems.

George wrote:
> Dee Dee wrote:
> > I briefly heard on the news (radio) this morning something about Sams'
> > hamburger. For those who shop at Sams, give it a listen.
>
>
> Anything worse than the normal "suppliers cut corners because of the low
> prices demanded by Walmart and produced contaminated meat"?

You comatose imbecile, has not a whit to do with Walmart, or any other
food store.

Actually ALL preground meat is contaminated by default... it's an
utter impossibility to mass produce clean ground meat... that's why
for many years now the warning to cook preground meat well done. The
only way to produce clean ground meat is to grind it yourself, then
you can eat it rare, even raw if you like. Preground meat is a
relatively new concept, didn't exist fifty years ago. Fifty years ago
there were an awful lot of very poor folks stretching their food
budget by feeding their family ground meat dishes, but they all ground
their own or occasionally would have the corner butcher shop do the
grinding (but then meat arrived at the butcher as full sides and
butchered on premises, the meat was clean and dry). Back then there
were an awful lot of corner butcher shops and practically no grocery
stores sold meat, and there existed very, very few stupidmarkets, none
of which sold meat. There were so many independant butchers in town
that they couldn't afford to cheat their customers or they'd be out of
business, immediately if not sooner. But then as now there is only
one way and one way only to have clean ground meat, grind your own...
and still you need to know how to grind meat correctly, but even
pointy headed imbeciles like yoose can learn... the much more
difficult part is how to overcome your gross LAZINESS!

Preground mystery meat is a very bad concept... everyone has been
warned, and warned on a daily basis... anyone who eats preground
mystery meat does indeed deserve whatever ailment befalls them.
Tobacco kills yet people still partake... I see no difference
whatsoever between consuming tobacco and consuming preground mystery
meat... in fact the preground mystery meat consumers are far dumber,
because inexpensive home meat grinders are readily available.

On Oct 6, 3:47?pm, Sqwertz > wrote:
> On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 19:40:02 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> > Don't forget something you said once: You don't like your local supermarket.
> > But, don't become Omaload and pretend stores in other places are identical
> > to yours. There *are* stores which grind their own meat correctly, and you
> > can trust the stuff.
>
> And for all the bragging and bitching Sheldon spews about grocery
> stores and delis, it kinda makes you wonder what kind of gourmet
> ********s he shops.


ALL grocery stores and delis are shit holes YOU MORON, every last
one... and all restaurants are far worse, feces palaces all... why do
you think they put signs in the terlit to wash, little do they realize
that the majority of restaurant worker are totally illiterate. No
bragging... truth... eating shit is nothing to brag about, but yoose
eat shit and brag about it constantly... sqwertz, you gotta be the
king of all shit eaters because everything out of your mouth is
shit... you're so full of shit that you leave brown stains on your
pillow from your ears.

On Oct 6, 2:55?pm, Peter A > wrote:
> In article >, says...
>
> > As for the bad taste to
> > consume such junk, yes, they deserve it, just as the people who eat
> > nothing but fast food deserve to be obese as most of them are.
>
> Apparently you are illiterate. The topic has nothing to do with being
> obese, it has to do with getting an e coli infection from the meat - and
> the person I was responding to said the people who buy that meat
> "deserve" it.


But of course, the obese and the preground mystery meat eaters both
have shit for brains... neither has the brains to know when to STFU.
Yoose can't eat shit with your mouth closed, now can you... but
doesn't seem to stop the likes of you.. you probably can't pass a fast
food drive thru without turning in for a bag full of shit.. and of
course the obese are too fat to walk through the front door... who do
your think they invented drive thrus for, and for all businesses....
just watch who goes to the bank drive thru, the pharmacy drive thru,
all of them... the obese in their PJs. If the fast food joints closed
their drive thrus they'd go out of business, because the obese spend
far more than normal sized patrons. The real business acumen is not
fast food based, it's absolutely drive thru based.

In article >, ost
says...
> On Sat, 6 Oct 2007 17:15:53 -0400, yetanotherBob wrote:
>
> > One thing you know you'll be getting is WATER, sometimes salted, and
> > plenty of it, at whatever "meat" price they charged for those frozen
> > disks.
>
> The recall notice said the products involved were 100% beef,
> Which would mean no water or other additives (like TVP).
>
> It's pretty rare to find adulterated hamburger patties. At least
> at the stores where I shop.
>
> -sw
>
The patties can be labelled as 100% beef and still contain more water
than you'd find, for example, in beef chuck that you've fresh-ground
then formed into patties for burgers. The steam that emanates from one
of the frozen burger disks as it grills/fries/broils with high heat is
one quick giveaway.

As an experiment, you could take a "100% USDA choice chuck" Original
Bubba Burger, place it in a skillet along with patty of chuck that
you've ground and formed into a patty of similar size and weight. Put
the skillet on a burner, turn on the heat and watch what happens.
You'll likely see a pool of water forming around the frozen patty, well
before any fat or significant moisture starts rendering from your
homemade patty.

Try the nominally better frozen burgers, from Costco and other suppliers
(including the Costco ground sirloin), and you'll probably see the same
effect of water pooling before anything else.

The only frozen patties I've found that don't have appreciable amounts
of water in them have been from Coleman and a couple of local markets
that use local meat processors, and they're certainly more expensive
than the "Bubba Burger" patties and their ilk.

I suspect that the purveyors of frozen beef patties add water not just
to pad their weight, but possibly also to help cook the patties by
steaming. This would be an easy way to decrease the possibility that
the meat would be dangerously undercooked, lessening the manufacturers'
exposure to food poisoning lawsuits and the like.

Bob

"Chris Marksberry" > wrote in message
news
>
>>I briefly heard on the news (radio) this morning something about Sams'
>> hamburger. For those who shop at Sams, give it a listen.
>> Dee Dee
>
> http://www.kswo.com/Global/story.asp?S=7177579

Cargill? Meat?
Whoa!
Dee Dee

"yetanotherBob" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, ost
> says...
>> On Sat, 6 Oct 2007 17:15:53 -0400, yetanotherBob wrote:
>>
>> > One thing you know you'll be getting is WATER, sometimes salted, and
>> > plenty of it, at whatever "meat" price they charged for those frozen
>> > disks.
>>
>> The recall notice said the products involved were 100% beef,
>> Which would mean no water or other additives (like TVP).
>>
>> It's pretty rare to find adulterated hamburger patties. At least
>> at the stores where I shop.
>>
>> -sw
>>
> The patties can be labelled as 100% beef and still contain more water
> than you'd find, for example, in beef chuck that you've fresh-ground
> then formed into patties for burgers. The steam that emanates from one
> of the frozen burger disks as it grills/fries/broils with high heat is
> one quick giveaway.

The human body consists of 65% to 90% water, depending on which part of the
body. Lean muscle tissue is about 75% water. I wonder if cows are much
different, and if the steam could have something to do with all the water
that's naturally present.

On 6 Oct 2007 21:46:37 GMT, "Default User" >
wrote:

>Pete C. wrote:
>
>
>> Hey dimwit, you were responding to me, and I said that people who buy
>> and consume low grade frozen pre-formed burger byproduct deserve what
>> ills may befall them.
>
>Bullshit. People deserve to get safe and wholesome products, period.
>
>
>Brian

but they're fat and stupid! a safe should fall on their heads, maybe!

your pal,
blake

On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 22:55:32 GMT, "Pete C." >
wrote:

>Peter A wrote:
>>
>> In article >, says...
>> > Peter A wrote:
>> > >
>> > > In article >, says...
>> > > > As for the bad taste to
>> > > > consume such junk, yes, they deserve it, just as the people who eat
>> > > > nothing but fast food deserve to be obese as most of them are.
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > Apparently you are illiterate. The topic has nothing to do with being
>> > > obese, it has to do with getting an e coli infection from the meat - and
>> > > the person I was responding to said the people who buy that meat
>> > > "deserve" it.
>> > >
>> > > Maybe you should exercise your "personal responsibility" and take an
>> > > adult literacy class.
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Peter Aitken
>> >
>> > Hey dimwit, you were responding to me, and I said that people who buy
>> > and consume low grade frozen pre-formed burger byproduct deserve what
>> > ills may befall them.
>> >
>>
>> Yes, I know that's what you said. You think that such people "deserve"
>> to get an e coli infection that may kill them. You're a real prince -
>> and illiterate to boot.
>>
>> --
>> Peter Aitken
>
>The evolutionary process has to continue somehow, and if that includes
>people killing themselves with bad food choices so be it.

how about people murdering assholes? does that count as 'the
evolutionary process'? or should e-coli eaters only die if they
intend to reproduce?

your pal,
blake

On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 20:04:26 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
> wrote:

>"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
>> On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 19:40:02 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>
>>> Don't forget something you said once: You don't like your local
>>> supermarket.
>>> But, don't become Omaload and pretend stores in other places are
>>> identical
>>> to yours. There *are* stores which grind their own meat correctly, and
>>> you
>>> can trust the stuff.
>>
>> And for all the bragging and bitching Sheldon spews about grocery
>> stores and delis, it kinda makes you wonder what kind of gourmet
>> ********s he shops.
>>
>> -sw
>
>According to him, there aren't any. It's a wasteland for shoppers.
>
sheldon's a pussy - he doesn't raise his own cows. who knows what
they may have been fed?

your pal,
blake

On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 01:35:52 GMT, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 17:04:48 -0700, Sheldon wrote:
>
>> ALL grocery stores and delis are shit holes YOU MORON, every last
>> one... and all restaurants are far worse, feces palaces all... why do
>> you think they put signs in the terlit to wash, little do they realize
>> that the majority of restaurant worker are totally illiterate. No
>> bragging... truth... eating shit is nothing to brag about, but yoose
>> eat shit and brag about it constantly... sqwertz, you gotta be the
>> king of all shit eaters because everything out of your mouth is
>> shit... you're so full of shit that you leave brown stains on your
>> pillow from your ears.
>
>I think it's time for another of those 14-day stays at the insane
>asylum. The toxins are building up in your body and you need a
>good detox and twice daily colonics.
>
>-sw

sheldon must shop at grocery stores sometime. where else would he get
the kleenex boxes to wear on his feet?

your pal,
blake

In article >,
says...
> "yetanotherBob" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article >, ost
> > says...
> >> On Sat, 6 Oct 2007 17:15:53 -0400, yetanotherBob wrote:
> >>
> >> > One thing you know you'll be getting is WATER, sometimes salted, and
> >> > plenty of it, at whatever "meat" price they charged for those frozen
> >> > disks.
> >>
> >> The recall notice said the products involved were 100% beef,
> >> Which would mean no water or other additives (like TVP).
> >>
> >> It's pretty rare to find adulterated hamburger patties. At least
> >> at the stores where I shop.
> >>
> >> -sw
> >>
> > The patties can be labelled as 100% beef and still contain more water
> > than you'd find, for example, in beef chuck that you've fresh-ground
> > then formed into patties for burgers. The steam that emanates from one
> > of the frozen burger disks as it grills/fries/broils with high heat is
> > one quick giveaway.
>
> The human body consists of 65% to 90% water, depending on which part of the
> body. Lean muscle tissue is about 75% water. I wonder if cows are much
> different, and if the steam could have something to do with all the water
> that's naturally present.
>
>
That certainly seems reasonable. If the muscle tissue is more
waterlogged on the hoof, it would probably continue to be so after
slaughter and processing. If the "farm" and feed lot diet for typical
beef cattle encourages water retention, their meat wouldn't be
considered "enhanced" or otherwise adulterated by USDA standards, but
the price per pound yield would be enhanced, all else being equal,
compared to cattle that are raised and processed by other less intensive
means.

Check the results for yourself. You can put a frozen Coleman burger and
a Bubba Burger in a skillet next to one another, turn on the heat, and
observe which starts to exude water (vs. fat) first and in the greatest
quantity during cooking. It will be the Bubba Burger every time, from
what I've seen. How the additional moisture gets there may be
debatable, but the fact that it's there with many if not most frozen
burger patties, is pretty simply demonstrated, at least in my
experience.

Bob

Dee Dee wrote:

> I briefly heard on the news (radio) this morning something about
> Sams' hamburger. For those who shop at Sams, give it a listen.

Reading the subject line, I thought this was about Sam Talbot's plans to
open a hamburger restaurant in NYC.

Bob