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>
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wooooooooooooooohooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!

ChattyCathy wrote:
>
> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/
>
> Vote now! (or not)
>
> You can blame me for this one.
> --
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>
> Garlic: the element without which life as we know it would be impossible

I'm single, I work from home full time and my coworkers are > 1,500
miles away. Also, I believe in most states you'd need at least basic
HACCP certification, even if you fell below the size / volume that
required an inspected commercial grade kitchen.

"ChattyCathy" > wrote in message
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> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/
>
> Vote now! (or not)
>
> You can blame me for this one.
> --
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>
> Garlic: the element without which life as we know it would be impossible

Sure. I do it all the time, but my kitchen and my equipment is licensed and
inspected to do exactly what I do. Nothing more, so that's where I draw the
line.

In article >,
ChattyCathy > wrote:

> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/
>
> Vote now! (or not)
>
> You can blame me for this one.
> --
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Hey, it's a good survey! :-)

I'd not personally do it, but I have some co-workers who do it all the
time. Mostly around the holidays. Hispanic co-workers that make
fantastic, authentic hogs head tamales! You can't buy those in the
stores... They sell all they can make.

The other thing that is popular are fund raising BBQ plates. Usually to
help pay bills for severely ill family members. They go around and take
orders.

The last time that happened tho' was for a 7 year old dying from
leukemia. They later held a raffle instead and various people donated
stuff for it. I donated a hand made crystal and sterling silver rosary.

When he died, they were initially going to cremate him even tho' they
were Catholic as they could not afford anything else. The hospital
donated the money for burial and a head stone.
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In article >,
"Pete C." > wrote:

> ChattyCathy wrote:
> >
> > http://www.recfoodcooking.com/
> >
> > Vote now! (or not)
> >
> > You can blame me for this one.
> > --
> > Cheers
> > Chatty Cathy - feeling brave...
> >
> > Garlic: the element without which life as we know it would be impossible
>
> I'm single, I work from home full time and my coworkers are > 1,500
> miles away. Also, I believe in most states you'd need at least basic
> HACCP certification, even if you fell below the size / volume that
> required an inspected commercial grade kitchen.

Some people don't care.
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ChattyCathy wrote:
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>


Count me in the "more trouble than it's worth" category.

I work part time as needed for a company my husband founded.
We currently have ~16 employees and I bake a cake for each person's
birthday. I also plan and carry out a monthly cook-out at lunch during
the summer and an occasional lunch during cold weather (stew, chile,
soup, lasagna, or something similar.)

I can do this when I choose or when I am asked with a few days' notice.
Selling implies that someone else pulls the strings. Nope.

Years ago I had an very elderly neighbor whose husband was one of the
founders of the Bostitch fastener company. She explained that she (more
likely her cook) used to make and sell fudge around Christmas to the
employees and donate the proceeds to her own favorite charity, something
like "The Sunshine Society" that provided hospital beds, crutches, and
wheelchairs for temporary use to people who needed them.

I was uncomfortable with this concept. The family were
multi-millionaires and she was asking minimum wage employees to support
her favorite charity? Something's wrong with that picture!

In general I do not buy from or sell things to my friends, neighbors, or
co-workers.

gloria p

Omelet wrote:
>
> In article >,
> "Pete C." > wrote:
>
> > ChattyCathy wrote:
> > >
> > > http://www.recfoodcooking.com/
> > >
> > > Vote now! (or not)
> > >
> > > You can blame me for this one.
> > > --
> > > Cheers
> > > Chatty Cathy - feeling brave...
> > >
> > > Garlic: the element without which life as we know it would be impossible
> >
> > I'm single, I work from home full time and my coworkers are > 1,500
> > miles away. Also, I believe in most states you'd need at least basic
> > HACCP certification, even if you fell below the size / volume that
> > required an inspected commercial grade kitchen.
>
> Some people don't care.

Indeed, just noting. Years ago when I worked at a place that had a
catering truck stop by for lunch, the guy running the truck bought home
made egg rolls and stuffed cabbage from a couple people along his route
to sell. I'm sure this violated health codes in the area, but I didn't
care, nor did many other folks since the items in question were
exceptionally good.

Puester wrote:
>
> ChattyCathy wrote:
> > http://www.recfoodcooking.com/
> >
>
> Count me in the "more trouble than it's worth" category.
>
> I work part time as needed for a company my husband founded.
> We currently have ~16 employees and I bake a cake for each person's
> birthday. I also plan and carry out a monthly cook-out at lunch during
> the summer and an occasional lunch during cold weather (stew, chile,
> soup, lasagna, or something similar.)
>
> I can do this when I choose or when I am asked with a few days' notice.
> Selling implies that someone else pulls the strings. Nope.
>
> Years ago I had an very elderly neighbor whose husband was one of the
> founders of the Bostitch fastener company. She explained that she (more
> likely her cook) used to make and sell fudge around Christmas to the
> employees and donate the proceeds to her own favorite charity, something
> like "The Sunshine Society" that provided hospital beds, crutches, and
> wheelchairs for temporary use to people who needed them.
>
> I was uncomfortable with this concept. The family were
> multi-millionaires and she was asking minimum wage employees to support
> her favorite charity? Something's wrong with that picture!

Presumably it helped this woman feel more like she was doing something
to support those charities. They presumably donated more to charities
than most people anyway, but just writing a big check to a charity isn't
likely as satisfying as running a fundraising event.

Omelet wrote:

> When he died, they were initially going to cremate him even tho' they
> were Catholic as they could not afford anything else. The hospital
> donated the money for burial and a head stone.

Catholics can be cremated, but traditionally you must have the body for
the funeral mass.

> I was uncomfortable with this concept. The family were
> multi-millionaires and she was asking minimum wage employees to support
> her favorite charity? Something's wrong with that picture!
>
> In general I do not buy from or sell things to my friends, neighbors, or
> co-workers.
>
> gloria p

I hear ya! Being a military family, we have always followed the rule
that you don't sell or deal this way with anyone under your command or
rank. I don't believe managers should ever (even in the name of their
children's school/groups) sell to their employees or folks they
evaluate. There is too much potential for intimidation or resentment.
Goomba

In article >,
"Pete C." > wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> >
> > In article >,
> > "Pete C." > wrote:
> >
> > > ChattyCathy wrote:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.recfoodcooking.com/
> > > >
> > > > Vote now! (or not)
> > > >
> > > > You can blame me for this one.
> > > > --
> > > > Cheers
> > > > Chatty Cathy - feeling brave...
> > > >
> > > > Garlic: the element without which life as we know it would be impossible
> > >
> > > I'm single, I work from home full time and my coworkers are > 1,500
> > > miles away. Also, I believe in most states you'd need at least basic
> > > HACCP certification, even if you fell below the size / volume that
> > > required an inspected commercial grade kitchen.
> >
> > Some people don't care.
>
> Indeed, just noting. Years ago when I worked at a place that had a
> catering truck stop by for lunch, the guy running the truck bought home
> made egg rolls and stuffed cabbage from a couple people along his route
> to sell. I'm sure this violated health codes in the area, but I didn't
> care, nor did many other folks since the items in question were
> exceptionally good.

:-)

Gotta love the "underground economy".
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On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 16:42:47 -0500, "Pete C." >
wrote:

>Puester wrote:
>>
>> ChattyCathy wrote:
>> > http://www.recfoodcooking.com/
>> >
>>
>> Count me in the "more trouble than it's worth" category.
>>
>> I work part time as needed for a company my husband founded.
>> We currently have ~16 employees and I bake a cake for each person's
>> birthday. I also plan and carry out a monthly cook-out at lunch during
>> the summer and an occasional lunch during cold weather (stew, chile,
>> soup, lasagna, or something similar.)
>>
>> I can do this when I choose or when I am asked with a few days' notice.
>> Selling implies that someone else pulls the strings. Nope.
>>
>> Years ago I had an very elderly neighbor whose husband was one of the
>> founders of the Bostitch fastener company. She explained that she (more
>> likely her cook) used to make and sell fudge around Christmas to the
>> employees and donate the proceeds to her own favorite charity, something
>> like "The Sunshine Society" that provided hospital beds, crutches, and
>> wheelchairs for temporary use to people who needed them.
>>
>> I was uncomfortable with this concept. The family were
>> multi-millionaires and she was asking minimum wage employees to support
>> her favorite charity? Something's wrong with that picture!
>
>Presumably it helped this woman feel more like she was doing something
>to support those charities. They presumably donated more to charities
>than most people anyway, but just writing a big check to a charity isn't
>likely as satisfying as running a fundraising event.

Let's hope it was saying "I'm not the only one who supports you, my
employees do too". However, who knows what her real line was. Maybe
she submitted the money (which was done by cash) - taking full credit
and the write off too.

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Puester wrote:
> ChattyCathy wrote:
>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/
>>
>
(snippety)
> In general I do not buy from or sell things to my friends, neighbors,
> or co-workers.
>
> gloria p

I heartily agree, Gloria! I remember one time three different people were
selling those Pampered Chef products at the office. I had no interest in
the products, having bought one P.C. item a couple of years before. But the
people who *were* interested were uncomfortable. Many felt if they bought
something from one person they'd have to buy something from the other two,
as well, just to be fair. It's an awkward position to put people in.

Jill

jmcquown > wrote in message
...
> [selling to cow orkers] It's an awkward position to
> put people in.

And then there are the obsessed pushers that sell <insert item>
for their kids. The biggest offenders are parents of girl
scouts... How does never letting the girl earn her 200 boxes the
parent sold from his/her office help that girl in life
experiences?

The Ranger

The Ranger wrote:
>
> jmcquown > wrote in message
> ...
> > [selling to cow orkers] It's an awkward position to
> > put people in.
>
> And then there are the obsessed pushers that sell <insert item>
> for their kids. The biggest offenders are parents of girl
> scouts... How does never letting the girl earn her 200 boxes the
> parent sold from his/her office help that girl in life
> experiences?

I don't mind the girl guide cookies so much. Some people actually like them
and look forward to buying them. They are not a bad deal, so it is pretty
close to a win win situation, so long as no one is pushing too hard. I
have more trouble with the chocolate bars. They always milk chocolate,
which I do not like, and often have nuts in them, which I cannot eat.
Sorry. I have no use for them and no I wouldn't really care to donate $x
anyway to support your kid's activities. Nor do I get sucked into buying a
hamburger and a drink when solicited by a kid at a plaza when the moms and
dads are manning the grill and doing all the work. I will get a car wash, a
needed service and one which forces them to do some work.

Dave Smith > wrote in message
...
> The Ranger wrote:
>> jmcquown > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > [selling to cow orkers] It's an awkward position to
>> > put people in.
>>
>> And then there are the obsessed pushers that sell
>> <insert item> for their kids. The biggest offenders
>> are parents of girl scouts... How does never letting
>> the girl earn her 200 boxes the parent sold from
>> his/her office help that girl in life experiences?
>>
> I don't mind the girl guide cookies so much. Some
> people actually like them and look forward to buying
> them. They are not a bad deal, so it is pretty close
> to a win win situation, so long as no one is pushing
> too hard. [snip]

That's the problem, though. The parents I've dealt with in the
workplace actively push the sales... And see nothing wrong with
giving their girl credit for the sales.

Again, these parent-only bolstered sales do benefit the troop in
the long-run but what does their daughter learn about ethics and
earning prizes during these warped practices? [Again, these are
the same parents that make school donations a win-at-any-cost
contest, too. Giftwrap anyone?]

Lest you think I'm against super-selling, I applauded the girl
scout that went to her local supermarket prior to the cookie sales
and worked those crowds. The GSA didn't approve of it,
unfortunately, but _that_ was honest sales ingenuity. She saw an
opportunity and took advantage of it (under parent supervision and
store approval).

Child ingenuity shouldn't be penalized anymore than parent-only
selling should be rewarded.

The Ranger

The Ranger wrote:


> Again, these parent-only bolstered sales do benefit the troop in the
> long-run but what does their daughter learn about ethics and earning
> prizes during these warped practices? [Again, these are the same
> parents that make school donations a win-at-any-cost contest, too.
> Giftwrap anyone?]

Part of the problem is that these days, many parents are too afraid to
let the kids do it the traditional way, going door to door. Because of
that, the only way I can me some Thin Mints is the workplace sign-up.





Brian

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Default User > wrote in message
...
> The Ranger wrote:
>> Again, these parent-only bolstered sales do benefit the troop
>> in the
>> long-run but what does their daughter learn about ethics and
>> earning
>> prizes during these warped practices? [Again, these are the
>> same
>> parents that make school donations a win-at-any-cost contest,
>> too.
>> Giftwrap anyone?]
>>
> Part of the problem is that these days, many parents are too
> afraid to
> let the kids do it the traditional way, going door to door.
> Because of
> that, the only way I can me some Thin Mints is the workplace
> sign-up.

It's a Catch-22; traditional door-to-door selling vs. no
door-to-door sales. I also understand that opportunities are lost
by not allowing any sales at the workplace of GS cookies. What
bothers me is the parent that sells for their child and never has
the child participate at any point in the sale...

The Ranger

The Ranger wrote:

> Default User > wrote in message
> ...
> > The Ranger wrote:
> > > Again, these parent-only bolstered sales do benefit the troop in
> > > the long-run but what does their daughter learn about ethics and
> > > earning prizes during these warped practices? [Again, these are
> > > the same parents that make school donations a win-at-any-cost
> > > contest, too. Giftwrap anyone?]
> > >
> > Part of the problem is that these days, many parents are too
> > afraid to let the kids do it the traditional way, going door to
> > door. Because of that, the only way I can me some Thin Mints is
> > the workplace sign-up.
>
> It's a Catch-22; traditional door-to-door selling vs. no door-to-door
> sales.

The last Girl Scout to come by the door years ago had her mother
shadowing her in the car.

> I also understand that opportunities are lost by not allowing
> any sales at the workplace of GS cookies. What bothers me is the
> parent that sells for their child and never has the child participate
> at any point in the sale...

I'm never sure that the ones at work do that. It is possible to do
both. I'm not that worried about it either way.




Brian

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Dave Smith wrote:
> The Ranger wrote:
>>
>> jmcquown > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> [selling to co workers] It's an awkward position to
>>> put people in.
>>
>> And then there are the obsessed pushers that sell <insert item>
>> for their kids. The biggest offenders are parents of girl
>> scouts... How does never letting the girl earn her 200 boxes the
>> parent sold from his/her office help that girl in life
>> experiences?
>
> I have more trouble with the chocolate bars. They
> always milk chocolate, which I do not like, and often have nuts in
> them, which I cannot eat. Sorry. I have no use for them and no I
> wouldn't really care to donate $x anyway to support your kid's
> activities. Nor do I get sucked into buying a hamburger and a drink
> when solicited by a kid at a plaza when the moms and dads are manning
> the grill and doing all the work. I will get a car wash, a needed
> service and one which forces them to do some work.

I've gotten car washes from school and church groups who were doing
fundraisers. They definitely work! And work as a team! Both important
lessons, IMHO. Better than having some parent trying to sell chocolate (or
in more recent years, holiday wrapping paper) *for* them.

I understand the inherent danger in sending kids door to door. But is there
a reason why they can't be accompanied by a parent or responsible adult?!

Jill

The Ranger wrote:
> Default User > wrote in message
> ...
>> The Ranger wrote:
>>> Again, these parent-only bolstered sales do benefit the troop
>>> in the
>>> long-run but what does their daughter learn about ethics and
>>> earning
>>> prizes during these warped practices? [Again, these are the
>>> same
>>> parents that make school donations a win-at-any-cost contest,
>>> too.
>>> Giftwrap anyone?]
>>>
>> Part of the problem is that these days, many parents are too
>> afraid to
>> let the kids do it the traditional way, going door to door.

There's absolutely no reason why the parent (or a trusted adult) couldn't
accompany them. They somehow manage to find time to squeeze in other
activities which may include ferrying little Johnny to soccer practice or
little Susie to ballet class. So go around door-to-door with the kid on
weekends. Maybe dad will have to skip a golf game. Maybe mom can skip her
spinning class. Heaven forbid!

Jill

>
> It's a Catch-22; traditional door-to-door selling vs. no
> door-to-door sales. I also understand that opportunities are lost
> by not allowing any sales at the workplace of GS cookies. What
> bothers me is the parent that sells for their child and never has
> the child participate at any point in the sale...
>

jmcquown wrote:

> > Default User > wrote in message
> > ...

> >> Part of the problem is that these days, many parents are too
> >> afraid to
> >> let the kids do it the traditional way, going door to door.
>
> There's absolutely no reason why the parent (or a trusted adult)
> couldn't accompany them. They somehow manage to find time to squeeze
> in other activities which may include ferrying little Johnny to
> soccer practice or little Susie to ballet class. So go around
> door-to-door with the kid on weekends. Maybe dad will have to skip a
> golf game. Maybe mom can skip her spinning class. Heaven forbid!

Haven't you answered the question? Parents are already busy with other
stuff.

It's none of my business how parents decided to spend their time. I
have precious little free time as a single guy.




Brian

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In article >,
"Default User" > wrote:

> The Ranger wrote:
>
>
> > Again, these parent-only bolstered sales do benefit the troop in the
> > long-run but what does their daughter learn about ethics and earning
> > prizes during these warped practices? [Again, these are the same
> > parents that make school donations a win-at-any-cost contest, too.
> > Giftwrap anyone?]
>
> Part of the problem is that these days, many parents are too afraid to
> let the kids do it the traditional way, going door to door. Because of
> that, the only way I can me some Thin Mints is the workplace sign-up.
>
>
>
>
>
> Brian

They camp out in front of Wal-mart and grocery stores too in our area.

That works. :-)
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Omelet wrote:

>> Part of the problem is that these days, many parents are too afraid to
>> let the kids do it the traditional way, going door to door. Because of
>> that, the only way I can me some Thin Mints is the workplace sign-up.
>>
>> Brian
>
> They camp out in front of Wal-mart and grocery stores too in our area.
>
> That works. :-)

And if I'm not mistaken, those spots and dates available are quite
coveted by the groups. I certainly buy more than my share from them at
those times. The kids are the ones doing the actual sales pitch and
hustling and the adults are watching over them.

Goomba38 > wrote in message
. ..
[snip]
>> They camp out in front of Wal-mart and grocery
>> stores too in our area.
>>
> And if I'm not mistaken, those spots and dates
> available are quite coveted by the groups.
[snip]

That whole process is very strictly observed, too, to prevent
oversaturation of a particular market and confusion of sales.

Personally, I think it's silly to only allow troops certain
windows to sell the cookies when they are obviously favored by
_almost_ everyone that comes back out -- even after spending $$$$
on their brim-filled cart.

The Ranger