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Hi people,
I've been using a slow cooker for a while now all very successfully. However, I've heard anecdotal evidence of people cooking a large pot of food and keeping it going for several days, eating from it when they want, and even adding new ingredients. This sounds very appealing to me, but quite frankly I'm scared of poisoning myself. Does anyone know any top tips for doing this, or a good resource on the web? Using google just seems to find recipes :-) Thanks in advance James. |
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Jimbo wrote:
> Hi people, > I've been using a slow cooker for a while now all very successfully. > However, I've heard anecdotal evidence of people cooking a large pot > of food and keeping it going for several days, eating from it when > they want, and even adding new ingredients. > Never heard of that. A slow-cooker is intended to cook a meal without your being in attendance (e.g. while at work). I don't think it's meant to be left on and the food eaten over a period of days. You are right to be concerned; it's a bad idea. Jill |
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![]() Jimbo wrote: > > Hi people, > I've been using a slow cooker for a while now all very successfully. > However, I've heard anecdotal evidence of people cooking a large pot of > food and keeping it going for several days, eating from it when they > want, and even adding new ingredients. Sounds like Back Burner Soup... I've heard it was done many years ago on coal or wood burning stoves that were hot pretty much all the time during the winter months. I don't know whether keeping food in a crock pot at safe food temp for several days would be unsafe, probably not. But, I don't think it would be very economical...and, the food would surely overcook and fall apart into an unappetizing sorta mush. |
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Jimbo > writes:
>I've been using a slow cooker for a while now all very successfully. >However, I've heard anecdotal evidence of people cooking a large pot of >food and keeping it going for several days, eating from it when they >want, and even adding new ingredients. >This sounds very appealing to me, but quite frankly I'm scared of >poisoning myself. Actually, there's nothing wrong with it at all. I keep a soup pot going almost all winter, using leftovers. Disease organisms are killed at the pasteurization temperature range of 140° to 155°F. The "low" setting on a slow-cooker is 200°F. (High is 300.) This is well above recommended internal temperatures of meats, and well above pasteurization temperature, which makes it totally safe. Connie ************************************************** *** My mind is like a steel...um, whatchamacallit. |
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Rich McCormack wrote:
> Jimbo wrote: >> >> Hi people, >> I've been using a slow cooker for a while now all very >> successfully. However, I've heard anecdotal evidence of people >> cooking a large pot of food and keeping it going for several days, >> eating from it when they >> want, and even adding new ingredients. > > Sounds like Back Burner Soup... > > I don't think it would be very economical...and, the food would > surely overcook and fall apart into an unappetizing sorta mush. Hear hear! Unless, of course, you want mushy food. Jill |
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Rich McCormack writes:
>Jimbo wrote: >> >>I've been using a slow cooker for a while now all very successfully. >>However, I've heard anecdotal evidence of people cooking a large pot of >>food and keeping it going for several days, eating from it when they >>want, and even adding new ingredients. > >Sounds like Back Burner Soup... > >I've heard it was done many years ago on coal or wood burning >stoves that were hot pretty much all the time during the winter >months. I don't know whether keeping food in a crock pot at safe >food temp for several days would be unsafe, probably not. But, >I don't think it would be very economical...and, the food would >surely overcook and fall apart into an unappetizing sorta mush. After you've particiapted here a while you'll come to realize that's what most folks who post here consider gourmet eating. ---= BOYCOTT FRENCH--GERMAN (belgium) =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- Sheldon ```````````` "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." |
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ConnieG999 wrote:
> Jimbo > writes: > >> I've been using a slow cooker for a while now all very successfully. >> However, I've heard anecdotal evidence of people cooking a large pot >> of >> food and keeping it going for several days, eating from it when they >> want, and even adding new ingredients. >> This sounds very appealing to me, but quite frankly I'm scared of >> poisoning myself. > > Actually, there's nothing wrong with it at all. I keep a soup pot > going almost all winter, using leftovers. > Disease organisms are killed at the pasteurization temperature range > of 140° to 155°F. > The "low" setting on a slow-cooker is 200°F. (High is 300.) This is > well above recommended internal temperatures of meats, and well above > pasteurization temperature, which makes it totally safe. > > Connie > ************************************************** *** > My mind is like a steel...um, whatchamacallit. Okay, I take it back. The idea simply never occurred to me and didn't sound like a good one. Jill |
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"Rich McCormack" > wrote in message
... > > Jimbo wrote: > > > > Hi people, > > I've been using a slow cooker for a while now all very successfully. > > However, I've heard anecdotal evidence of people cooking a large pot of > > food and keeping it going for several days, eating from it when they > > want, and even adding new ingredients. > > Sounds like Back Burner Soup... > > I've heard it was done many years ago on coal or wood burning > stoves that were hot pretty much all the time during the winter > months. I don't know whether keeping food in a crock pot at safe > food temp for several days would be unsafe, probably not. But, > I don't think it would be very economical...and, the food would > surely overcook and fall apart into an unappetizing sorta mush. I have seen the "back burner soup" used in modern times, typically in large families that have lots of leftovers and scraps. It is used to make stock. Bones, table scraps, etc are thrown into a large pot of water. It is not kept boiling continually, but is brought to the boil once a day for an hour or two, after that day's additions are put in. Then some of the liquid is removed and used for soup or whatever, replacing it with more water. The regular boiling prevents any bacterial growth. I have done a similar thing, but I freeze all my scraps until I have enough and then make stock from them. -- Peter Aitken Remove the crap from my email address before using. |
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jmcquown wrote:
>>Actually, there's nothing wrong with it at all. I keep a soup pot >>going almost all winter, using leftovers. >>Disease organisms are killed at the pasteurization temperature range >>of 140° to 155°F. >>The "low" setting on a slow-cooker is 200°F. (High is 300.) This is >>well above recommended internal temperatures of meats, and well above >>pasteurization temperature, which makes it totally safe. >> >>Connie >>************************************************ ***** >>My mind is like a steel...um, whatchamacallit. > > > Okay, I take it back. The idea simply never occurred to me and didn't sound > like a good one. > > Jill Well, I'll give it a go. Tomorrow I'll make some bolognese and post back in a couple of days how it all went. If I don't make a post assume I went under a bus rather than got ill :-) Cheers James. |
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In article >, "jmcquown"
> writes: >I don't think it would be very economical...and, the food would >> surely overcook and fall apart into an unappetizing sorta mush. But you've never tried it! Some vegetables may indeed turn to mush, but then you have a thicker broth, almost like a stew. Some vegetables and meats maintain their integrity, and of course the "soup" morphs from one thing to another depending on the ingredients. Connie ************************************************** *** My mind is like a steel...um, whatchamacallit. |
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The only recipe I know of that takes several days is my crockpot stock
recipe. It's not *designed* to be eaten during that period but I know of people who keep dipping bread into it and have to add water to make up for what they took. When I make Mexican bean soup in the crockpot, it needs to cook about 24 hours, and I've been known to leave the leftovers in the crockpot and then reheat it in the cp another day. -- Sylvia Steiger RN, homeschooling mom since Nov 1995 http://www.SteigerFamily.com Cheyenne WY, USDA zone 5a, Sunset zone 1a Home of the Wyoming Wind Festival, January 1-December 31 Remove "removethis" from address to reply |
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On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 12:15:28 +0000 (UTC), Jimbo
> wrote: > Hi people, > I've been using a slow cooker for a while now all very successfully. > However, I've heard anecdotal evidence of people cooking a large pot of > food and keeping it going for several days, eating from it when they > want, and even adding new ingredients. > > This sounds very appealing to me, but quite frankly I'm scared of > poisoning myself. Does anyone know any top tips for doing this, or a > good resource on the web? Using google just seems to find recipes :-) You might want to inquire on misc.consumers.frugal-living. At least one user there does this, although I don't know if she uses her slow cooker for it. She might just keep a soup pot on the back stove burner, and she does leave it there 24-7 and adds to it. No doubt she could tell you more details. I know she gets a lot of use out of her slow cookers as well. IIRC, she said it was something her mother had always done, which isn't surprising. It's very economical (she's a frugal living genius!) and especially handy because anyone can have a hot bowl of soup anytime, regardless of their schedules. I've read that the pioneers did the same thing, kept a pot of soup or stew simmering on the hearth all day long so people could have a decent meal whenever they came in from the fields. Ariane |
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Jimbo > wrote in message >...
> Hi people, > I've been using a slow cooker for a while now all very successfully. > However, I've heard anecdotal evidence of people cooking a large pot of > food and keeping it going for several days, eating from it when they > want, and even adding new ingredients. > > This sounds very appealing to me, but quite frankly I'm scared of > poisoning myself. Does anyone know any top tips for doing this, or a > good resource on the web? Using google just seems to find recipes :-) > > Thanks in advance > James. My Italian neighbors in SF kept a sauce pot at least half full of not quite bubbling tomato based sauce on the stove at all times-cleaned it out a couple of times a year. Ate sauce out of it many times-no problemo-most of us Ami's are way too bug wary. |
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>people cooking a large pot of
>food and keeping it going for several days, eating from it when they >want, and even adding new ingredients. Crock pots, which do NOT keep their contents above boiling uniformly, should not be used for indefinite storage at a simmer; and any crock pot process should start by bringing the entire contents to a boil before reducing the temperature to the simmer. Simmer for eight hours, if you wish; then consume or refrigerate. Throwing raw ingredients into a simmering crock pot is to create a great bacterial breeding ground. Neil |
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