Hardee's breakfast burrito: bacon, sausage, potatoes and sausage gravy
adds up to 920 calories
By JIM SALTER,AP
Posted: 2007-10-15 14:35:13
ST. LOUIS (AP) - The people who brought you the Monster Thickburger
and the 1,100-calorie salad are at it again - this time for
breakfast.

Hardee's on Monday rolled out its new Country Breakfast Burrito - two
egg omelets filled with bacon, sausage, diced ham, cheddar cheese,
hash browns and sausage gravy, all wrapped inside a flour tortilla.
The burrito contains 920 calories and 60 grams of fat.

Brad Haley, marketing chief for the St. Louis-based fast-food chain,
said the burrito offers the sort of big breakfast item normally found
in sit-down restaurants with an added advantage.

"It makes this big country breakfast portable," he said.

In 2003 the chain introduced a line of big sandwiches, including the
Monster Thickburger. The 1,420-calorie sandwich is made up of two 1/3-
pound slabs of beef, four strips of bacon, three slices of cheese and
mayonnaise on a buttered bun.

Even Hardees' chicken salad - topped with onion rings and crispy
chicken - has 1,100 calories and 83 grams of fat.

The chain does offer some low-calorie options, including roast beef
and chicken sandwiches.

The Center for Science in the Public Interest, a Washington-based
advocate for nutrition and health, has called the Hardee's line of
Thickburgers "food porn."

The group's senior nutritionist, Jayne Hurley, said Monday the burrito
was "another lousy invention by a fast-food company."

The "country breakfast bomb," as she called it, represents half a
day's calories and a full day's worth of saturated fat and salt, to
say nothing of cholesterol.

"That's all before 10 o'clock in the morning," she said.

Haley makes no apologies.

"We don't try to hide what these are," he said. "When consumers go to
other fast-food places they feel like they've got to buy two of their
breakfast sandwiches or burritos to fill up. This is really designed
to fill you up."

The government's Center for Nutritional Policy and Promotion
recommends a daily caloric intake ranging from 1,600 calories for
sedentary women and older adults to 2,800 calories for teenage boys
and active adults. Hardee's sees its core customers as young men ages
18 to 34, Haley said, though it expects a wider range for breakfast
items.

The Country Breakfast Burrito is generally available for $2.69 by
itself or $4.09 for a combo that includes hash rounds and coffee.


Don't even wanna know what's hash rounds...


Sheldon

In article 1>,
"Michael \"Dog3\"" > wrote:

> Sheldon > dropped this news:1192593585.990772.211880
> @e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com: in rec.food.cooking
>
> >
> > "It makes this big country breakfast portable," he said.
>
> IMO, this is one of the most absurd sentences I have ever read regarding
> fast food.

This sort of menu offering is absolutely insane. It speaks to a total
disregard for any sense of corporate responsibility. Hardy's should have
at least offer a version that uses egg substitute, turkey bacon, low fat
cheese, and low fat sauce, which would bring its total fat and calorie
content way down and still be filling and reasonably tasty.

Stan Horwitz wrote:

>
> This sort of menu offering is absolutely insane. It speaks to a total
> disregard for any sense of corporate responsibility. Hardy's should have
> at least offer a version that uses egg substitute, turkey bacon, low fat
> cheese, and low fat sauce, which would bring its total fat and calorie
> content way down and still be filling and reasonably tasty.

I've never seen turkey bacon here in RSA (but then I've never really
looked for it)... what's it like?
Had ostrich bacon once or twice - that was pretty good, IMHO.
--
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On Oct 16, 10:59 pm, Sheldon > wrote:
> Hardee's breakfast burrito: bacon, sausage, potatoes and sausage gravy
> adds up to 920 calories
> By JIM SALTER,AP
> Posted: 2007-10-15 14:35:13
> ST. LOUIS (AP) - The people who brought you the Monster Thickburger
> and the 1,100-calorie salad are at it again - this time for
> breakfast.
>
[snip]
>
> The Country Breakfast Burrito is generally available for $2.69 by
> itself or $4.09 for a combo that includes hash rounds and coffee.
>
When my wife and I heard this on Morning Edition yesterday, I told her
that I figured that Hardee's would sell a lot more of there as a
result. At $2.69, I'm sure they'll sell well.
>
> Sheldon

--Bryan

"Michael "Dog3"" > wrote

> The first year I moved to St. Louis I sort of figured I made a really bad
> move food wise. The RFT poll of the year had St. Louisans voting Subway
> best deli. Bleh... I'm sure the new cardboard breakfast will be a big hit
> here. St. Louis isn't a bad town for foodies, they just have to look a
> bit harder to find the good stuff

Oh, geez, what, was Dominoes best pizza? Yikes.

Odd, just the other day we were talking about how the words
breakfast and burrito together kinda puts you off. Obviously
not all 'you's ... just maybe us. Just doesn't whet the appetite.

nancy

On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 06:47:57 -0400, Stan Horwitz
> wrote:

>This sort of menu offering is absolutely insane. It speaks to a total
>disregard for any sense of corporate responsibility. Hardy's should have
>at least offer a version that uses egg substitute, turkey bacon, low fat
>cheese, and low fat sauce, which would bring its total fat and calorie
>content way down and still be filling and reasonably tasty.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I am an adult, capable of
making my OWN decisions. I applaud Hardee's decision to include this
item on their menu. You can't expect the corporate world to control
peoples' choices of what to eat. I will make my own choice of what to
eat. I may make wise, or foolish decisions, but the decision will be
mine.

--
Zilbandy

Nancy Young wrote:
> "Michael "Dog3"" > wrote
>
>> The first year I moved to St. Louis I sort of figured I made a
>> really bad move food wise. The RFT poll of the year had St.
>> Louisans voting Subway best deli. Bleh... I'm sure the new cardboard
>> breakfast will be a big hit here. St. Louis isn't a bad town for
>> foodies, they just have to look a bit harder to find the good stuff
>>
>
> Oh, geez, what, was Dominoes best pizza? Yikes.
>
> Odd, just the other day we were talking about how the words
> breakfast and burrito together kinda puts you off. Obviously
> not all 'you's ... just maybe us. Just doesn't whet the appetite.
>
> nancy

So true! (I know McDonald's has had one on the menu for a long time,
although when I've seen people at work bring one in for breakfast they were
rather small!) I'd rather have a biscuit or an English muffin, or even
toast, thanks.

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
> Nancy Young wrote:
>> "Michael "Dog3"" > wrote
>>
>>> The first year I moved to St. Louis I sort of figured I made a
>>> really bad move food wise. The RFT poll of the year had St.
>>> Louisans voting Subway best deli. Bleh... I'm sure the new cardboard
>>> breakfast will be a big hit here. St. Louis isn't a bad town for
>>> foodies, they just have to look a bit harder to find the good stuff
>>>
>> Oh, geez, what, was Dominoes best pizza? Yikes.
>>
>> Odd, just the other day we were talking about how the words
>> breakfast and burrito together kinda puts you off. Obviously
>> not all 'you's ... just maybe us. Just doesn't whet the appetite.
>>
>> nancy
>
> So true! (I know McDonald's has had one on the menu for a long time,
> although when I've seen people at work bring one in for breakfast they were
> rather small!) I'd rather have a biscuit or an English muffin, or even
> toast, thanks.
>
> Jill
>
>

the "sausage" that they use for those things is gross. full of bits of
cartilage and fat. (though I get inexplicable cravings for mcmuffins and
crossainwiches on occasion. bad foodie! no beignet!)


--

Sarah Gray

Sarah Gray wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>> Nancy Young wrote:
>>> "Michael "Dog3"" > wrote
>>>
>>>> The first year I moved to St. Louis I sort of figured I made a
>>>> really bad move food wise. The RFT poll of the year had St.
>>>> Louisans voting Subway best deli. Bleh... I'm sure the new
>>>> cardboard breakfast will be a big hit here. St. Louis isn't a bad
>>>> town for foodies, they just have to look a bit harder to find the
>>>> good stuff
>>> Oh, geez, what, was Dominoes best pizza? Yikes.
>>>
>>> Odd, just the other day we were talking about how the words
>>> breakfast and burrito together kinda puts you off. Obviously
>>> not all 'you's ... just maybe us. Just doesn't whet the appetite.
>>>
>>> nancy
>>
>> So true! (I know McDonald's has had one on the menu for a long time,
>> although when I've seen people at work bring one in for breakfast
>> they were rather small!) I'd rather have a biscuit or an English
>> muffin, or even toast, thanks.
>>
>
> the "sausage" that they use for those things is gross. full of bits of
> cartilage and fat. (though I get inexplicable cravings for mcmuffins
> and crossainwiches on occasion. bad foodie! no beignet!)

Did I mention sausage? Hmmm, no, I didn't. But then, I don't buy breakfast
from fast-food joints.

Jill

In article >,
"kilikini" > wrote:

> Stan Horwitz wrote:
> > In article 1>,
> > "Michael \"Dog3\"" > wrote:
> >
> >> Sheldon > dropped this
> >> news:1192593585.990772.211880 @e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com: in
> >> rec.food.cooking
> >>
> >>>
> >>> "It makes this big country breakfast portable," he said.
> >>
> >> IMO, this is one of the most absurd sentences I have ever read
> >> regarding fast food.
> >
> > This sort of menu offering is absolutely insane. It speaks to a total
> > disregard for any sense of corporate responsibility. Hardy's should
> > have at least offer a version that uses egg substitute, turkey bacon,
> > low fat cheese, and low fat sauce, which would bring its total fat
> > and calorie content way down and still be filling and reasonably
> > tasty.
>
> It intrigued me (not enough to eat it, mind you) enough to look up Hardee's
> online and check out their menu and nutritional counts. DANG! Some burgers
> are over 1500 calories per burger! The sodium rates are so off the
> charts....I was literally stunned. Even their chicken salad was (IIRC)
> about 800 calories. It makes me wonder, if you grind up your own meat at
> home, cook it to your preferred amount of doneness, add the toppings you
> like and plop it all on a bun, what actually would the difference between
> fat, calories and sodium be between homemade and fast-food? Anyone have any
> ideas?
>
> kili

IMHO nobody is holding a gun to anyone's head to eat any high
fat/salt/calorie menu items. ;-) We are all adults.

If this would not sell, I doubt Hardee's would market it? <g>

Kinda like this place:

http://www.heartattackgrill.com/
--
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SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD AND HEALTHY BRECKFAST,.! MOST OF YALL ARE FATSOS THAT
SIP DIET SODA ANYHOW. REC.FOOD.COOKIN.FORFATSOS

FATTY


"Sheldon" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> Hardee's breakfast burrito: bacon, sausage, potatoes and sausage gravy
> adds up to 920 calories
> By JIM SALTER,AP
> Posted: 2007-10-15 14:35:13
> ST. LOUIS (AP) - The people who brought you the Monster Thickburger
> and the 1,100-calorie salad are at it again - this time for
> breakfast.
>
> Hardee's on Monday rolled out its new Country Breakfast Burrito - two
> egg omelets filled with bacon, sausage, diced ham, cheddar cheese,
> hash browns and sausage gravy, all wrapped inside a flour tortilla.
> The burrito contains 920 calories and 60 grams of fat.
>
> Brad Haley, marketing chief for the St. Louis-based fast-food chain,
> said the burrito offers the sort of big breakfast item normally found
> in sit-down restaurants with an added advantage.
>
> "It makes this big country breakfast portable," he said.
>
> In 2003 the chain introduced a line of big sandwiches, including the
> Monster Thickburger. The 1,420-calorie sandwich is made up of two 1/3-
> pound slabs of beef, four strips of bacon, three slices of cheese and
> mayonnaise on a buttered bun.
>
> Even Hardees' chicken salad - topped with onion rings and crispy
> chicken - has 1,100 calories and 83 grams of fat.
>
> The chain does offer some low-calorie options, including roast beef
> and chicken sandwiches.
>
> The Center for Science in the Public Interest, a Washington-based
> advocate for nutrition and health, has called the Hardee's line of
> Thickburgers "food porn."
>
> The group's senior nutritionist, Jayne Hurley, said Monday the burrito
> was "another lousy invention by a fast-food company."
>
> The "country breakfast bomb," as she called it, represents half a
> day's calories and a full day's worth of saturated fat and salt, to
> say nothing of cholesterol.
>
> "That's all before 10 o'clock in the morning," she said.
>
> Haley makes no apologies.
>
> "We don't try to hide what these are," he said. "When consumers go to
> other fast-food places they feel like they've got to buy two of their
> breakfast sandwiches or burritos to fill up. This is really designed
> to fill you up."
>
> The government's Center for Nutritional Policy and Promotion
> recommends a daily caloric intake ranging from 1,600 calories for
> sedentary women and older adults to 2,800 calories for teenage boys
> and active adults. Hardee's sees its core customers as young men ages
> 18 to 34, Haley said, though it expects a wider range for breakfast
> items.
>
> The Country Breakfast Burrito is generally available for $2.69 by
> itself or $4.09 for a combo that includes hash rounds and coffee.
>
>
> Don't even wanna know what's hash rounds...
>
>
> Sheldon
>

Sarah Gray wrote:
>
> the "sausage" that they use for those things is gross. full of bits of
> cartilage and fat.

Are you serious or being faceitious... all preground mystery meat is
made of scraps, does anyone really think they're grinding up perfectly
good steaks... what do you think any restaurant burger is composed of,
no different from the garbage at the stupidmarket meat case. It never
ceases to amaze me how folks will bash the fast food ground meats yet
feel no remorse whatsoever buying just as awful crap (probably worse)
to cook with in their own kitchens. If anyone thinks the sausage they
buy at the market is any different from what's served at restaurants
they're nutz. And the ground meat sold at fast food joints is
typically better quality and more consistantly so than what
stupidmarkets sell, because whenever any business buys any product in
such huge volume they get to dictate the specifications. There is one
way and one way only to know what/who is in your ground meat, and
that's to grind it yourself. The majority of you have never tasted a
good burger. If folks would grind their own it wouldn't too very long
before there'd be no fast food burger joints and stupidmarkets
wouldn't be selling preground mystery meat. Imagine, the very same
imbeciles who argue how to grill a steak and roast a prime rib are the
very same ones who eat preground mystery meat... ya know what, I don't
believe those mystery meat eaters ever eat steaks and roasts.. they
live exclusively on fast food boogers and sloppy joe type concoctions
they make at home with pre ground mystery meat.

Stan Horwitz > wrote:
> In article 1>,
> "Michael \"Dog3\"" > wrote:

> > Sheldon > dropped this news:1192593585.990772.211880
> > @e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com: in rec.food.cooking
> >
> > >
> > > "It makes this big country breakfast portable," he said.
> >
> > IMO, this is one of the most absurd sentences I have ever read regarding
> > fast food.

> This sort of menu offering is absolutely insane. It speaks to a total
> disregard for any sense of corporate responsibility. Hardy's should have
> at least offer a version that uses egg substitute, turkey bacon, low fat
> cheese, and low fat sauce, which would bring its total fat and calorie
> content way down and still be filling and reasonably tasty.

They could do that, but I bet they wouldn't sell any. Seriously, they are
offering a product that people can buy or not as they choose. No one even
has to go to a Hardees if they don't want to. No one who does go has to
order this item. No one who is trying to eat healthfully is going to go
to Hardees in the first place, or at least not very often.

Really, I've had enough of my mother telling me not to hang out with
the "wrong crowd" while I was growing up. I don't need the "Concerned
Scientists" or the government or any other busybodies tut-tutting over
this. Sheesh!

Bill Ranck
Blacksburg, Va.

kilikini wrote:

> Sorry, guys, I had to vent. I know it's wrong and I know you guys
> are going to be all over me for posting this, but this individual is
> not welcome here if he/she can't play nicely. Period. This last
> post really ****ed me off. I hate the fact that my friends were
> insulted needlessly - and I do consider you all my friends.

WOW! Who are you, and what have you done with our kili?? )))

In article 1>,
"Michael \"Dog3\"" > wrote:

> Omelet > dropped this
> news > rec.food.cooking
>
> >
> > IMHO nobody is holding a gun to anyone's head to eat any high
> > fat/salt/calorie menu items. ;-) We are all adults.
>
> Agreed, 100%.
>
> >
> > If this would not sell, I doubt Hardee's would market it? <g>
> >
> > Kinda like this place:
> >
> > http://www.heartattackgrill.com/
>
> I love this page. What a scream. And if you click the grill's address link
> you'll see the locations near it include Mayo Clinic
>
> Michael

It's one of many things I love about that place. <g>

Talk about Honesty in Marketing!
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In article >, wrote:

> Stan Horwitz > wrote:
> > In article 1>,
> > "Michael \"Dog3\"" > wrote:
>
> > > Sheldon > dropped this news:1192593585.990772.211880
> > > @e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com: in rec.food.cooking
> > >
> > > >
> > > > "It makes this big country breakfast portable," he said.
> > >
> > > IMO, this is one of the most absurd sentences I have ever read regarding
> > > fast food.
>
> > This sort of menu offering is absolutely insane. It speaks to a total
> > disregard for any sense of corporate responsibility. Hardy's should have
> > at least offer a version that uses egg substitute, turkey bacon, low fat
> > cheese, and low fat sauce, which would bring its total fat and calorie
> > content way down and still be filling and reasonably tasty.
>
> They could do that, but I bet they wouldn't sell any. Seriously, they are
> offering a product that people can buy or not as they choose. No one even
> has to go to a Hardees if they don't want to. No one who does go has to
> order this item. No one who is trying to eat healthfully is going to go
> to Hardees in the first place, or at least not very often.
>
> Really, I've had enough of my mother telling me not to hang out with
> the "wrong crowd" while I was growing up. I don't need the "Concerned
> Scientists" or the government or any other busybodies tut-tutting over
> this. Sheesh!
>
> Bill Ranck
> Blacksburg, Va.

<giggles>

There are enough "Nanny Laws" in place thank you very much!

I will SO draw the line in having them tell me what the hell I can eat,
or what the hell I can READ!

Thank the gods for the first amendment.

We do SO not need 1984. Not that we are not getting damned close.
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In article >,
"kilikini" > wrote:

> Michael "Dog3" wrote:
> > Omelet > dropped this
> > news > > rec.food.cooking
> >
> >>
> >> IMHO nobody is holding a gun to anyone's head to eat any high
> >> fat/salt/calorie menu items. ;-) We are all adults.
> >
> > Agreed, 100%.
> >
> >>
> >> If this would not sell, I doubt Hardee's would market it? <g>
> >>
> >> Kinda like this place:
> >>
> >> http://www.heartattackgrill.com/
> >
> > I love this page. What a scream. And if you click the grill's address
> > link you'll see the locations near it include Mayo Clinic
> >
> > Michael
>
> Hah! That is rather ironic, isn't it? (But the day I never have to see the
> Mayo Clinic name or logo again is the day I will REALLY celebrate!) <vbg>
>
> kili

<HUGS!!!> Sweetie. :-)

I'll damned well spend the cash to celebrate with you should that day
come! And your drinks will be on me!

Visa has it's uses.
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"Omelet" > wrote in
> IMHO nobody is holding a gun to anyone's head to eat any high
> fat/salt/calorie menu items. ;-) We are all adults.
>
> If this would not sell, I doubt Hardee's would market it? <g>

I say, let those who want to eat themselves into the grave early.
More room for the rest of us.

"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> We do SO not need 1984. Not that we are not getting damned close.
> --
> Peace, Om
>


We're heeeeeeeeeere!
Dee Dee

On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 06:47:57 -0400, Stan Horwitz
> wrote:

>In article 1>,
> "Michael \"Dog3\"" > wrote:
>
>> Sheldon > dropped this news:1192593585.990772.211880
>> @e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com: in rec.food.cooking
>>
>> >
>> > "It makes this big country breakfast portable," he said.
>>
>> IMO, this is one of the most absurd sentences I have ever read regarding
>> fast food.
>
>This sort of menu offering is absolutely insane. It speaks to a total
>disregard for any sense of corporate responsibility. Hardy's should have
>at least offer a version that uses egg substitute, turkey bacon, low fat
>cheese, and low fat sauce, which would bring its total fat and calorie
>content way down and still be filling and reasonably tasty.

maybe so, but who would buy such a thing?

your pal,
blake

Janet Baraclough wrote:
> The message .com>
> from Sheldon > contains these words:
>
>> . they
>> live exclusively on fast food boogers
>
> LOL. "Boogers" is Scottish slang for nose-pickings.
>
> Janet

You don't have to be Scottish to know that term.

kilikini wrote:
> Ophelia wrote:
>> kilikini wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry, guys, I had to vent. I know it's wrong and I know you guys
>>> are going to be all over me for posting this, but this individual is
>>> not welcome here if he/she can't play nicely. Period. This last
>>> post really ****ed me off. I hate the fact that my friends were
>>> insulted needlessly - and I do consider you all my friends.
>>
>> WOW! Who are you, and what have you done with our kili?? )))
>
> Sorry, I got upset. I know, my bad. :~)

LOL Not at all. No harm in being feisty)

In article >,
"jmcquown" > wrote:

> Sarah Gray wrote:
> > jmcquown wrote:
> >> Nancy Young wrote:
> >>> "Michael "Dog3"" > wrote
> >>>
> >>>> The first year I moved to St. Louis I sort of figured I made a
> >>>> really bad move food wise. The RFT poll of the year had St.
> >>>> Louisans voting Subway best deli. Bleh... I'm sure the new
> >>>> cardboard breakfast will be a big hit here. St. Louis isn't a bad
> >>>> town for foodies, they just have to look a bit harder to find the
> >>>> good stuff
> >>> Oh, geez, what, was Dominoes best pizza? Yikes.
> >>>
> >>> Odd, just the other day we were talking about how the words
> >>> breakfast and burrito together kinda puts you off. Obviously
> >>> not all 'you's ... just maybe us. Just doesn't whet the appetite.
> >>>
> >>> nancy
> >>
> >> So true! (I know McDonald's has had one on the menu for a long time,
> >> although when I've seen people at work bring one in for breakfast
> >> they were rather small!) I'd rather have a biscuit or an English
> >> muffin, or even toast, thanks.
> >>
> >
> > the "sausage" that they use for those things is gross. full of bits of
> > cartilage and fat. (though I get inexplicable cravings for mcmuffins
> > and crossainwiches on occasion. bad foodie! no beignet!)
>
> Did I mention sausage? Hmmm, no, I didn't. But then, I don't buy breakfast
> from fast-food joints.
>
> Jill

We rarely do either but when on vacation on the road, all bets are off.
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In article >, "cybercat" >
wrote:

> "Omelet" > wrote in
> > IMHO nobody is holding a gun to anyone's head to eat any high
> > fat/salt/calorie menu items. ;-) We are all adults.
> >
> > If this would not sell, I doubt Hardee's would market it? <g>
>
> I say, let those who want to eat themselves into the grave early.
> More room for the rest of us.

Absofrigginlootly!!!
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In article >,
"kilikini" > wrote:

> >> Hah! That is rather ironic, isn't it? (But the day I never have to
> >> see the Mayo Clinic name or logo again is the day I will REALLY
> >> celebrate!) <vbg>
> >>
> >> kili
> >
> > <HUGS!!!> Sweetie. :-)
> >
> > I'll damned well spend the cash to celebrate with you should that day
> > come! And your drinks will be on me!
> >
> > Visa has it's uses.
>
> Oh, darlin' I'll be expecting you. Sheesh. If I can be rid of this crap,
> you have no idea how happy I'll be. We've got a spare room, if your dad can
> do without you for a day or two, we've got cats for ya. I welcome you with
> open arms.
>
> kili

Be sure I'll honor it hon'. :-)
The world would be a worser place without YOU! <tighthugs!!!>
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In article >,
"Dee Dee" > wrote:

> "Omelet" > wrote in message
> news
> > We do SO not need 1984. Not that we are not getting damned close.
> > --
> > Peace, Om
> >
>
>
> We're heeeeeeeeeere!
> Dee Dee

Not quite yet.

Not so long as the 2nd amendment holds out.

But, I really really really don't want to start another thread about
that. <g> Gets me too many killfiles from Hoplophobes. ;-)
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In article >,
"jmcquown" > wrote:

> Janet Baraclough wrote:
> > The message .com>
> > from Sheldon > contains these words:
> >
> >> . they
> >> live exclusively on fast food boogers
> >
> > LOL. "Boogers" is Scottish slang for nose-pickings.
> >
> > Janet
>
> You don't have to be Scottish to know that term.

True. <g>
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In article >,
"kilikini" > wrote:

> > "Sheldon" > wrote in message
> > ups.com...
> >> Hardee's breakfast burrito: bacon, sausage, potatoes and sausage
> >> gravy adds up to 920 calories
> >> By JIM SALTER,AP
> >> Posted: 2007-10-15 14:35:13
> >> ST. LOUIS (AP) - The people who brought you the Monster Thickburger
> >> and the 1,100-calorie salad are at it again - this time for
> >> breakfast.
> >>
> >> Hardee's on Monday rolled out its new Country Breakfast Burrito - two
> >> egg omelets filled with bacon, sausage, diced ham, cheddar cheese,
> >> hash browns and sausage gravy, all wrapped inside a flour tortilla.
> >> The burrito contains 920 calories and 60 grams of fat.
> >>
> >> Brad Haley, marketing chief for the St. Louis-based fast-food chain,
> >> said the burrito offers the sort of big breakfast item normally found
> >> in sit-down restaurants with an added advantage.
> >>
> >> "It makes this big country breakfast portable," he said.
> >>
> >> In 2003 the chain introduced a line of big sandwiches, including the
> >> Monster Thickburger. The 1,420-calorie sandwich is made up of two
> >> 1/3- pound slabs of beef, four strips of bacon, three slices of
> >> cheese and mayonnaise on a buttered bun.
> >>
> >> Even Hardees' chicken salad - topped with onion rings and crispy
> >> chicken - has 1,100 calories and 83 grams of fat.
> >>
> >> The chain does offer some low-calorie options, including roast beef
> >> and chicken sandwiches.
> >>
> >> The Center for Science in the Public Interest, a Washington-based
> >> advocate for nutrition and health, has called the Hardee's line of
> >> Thickburgers "food porn."
> >>
> >> The group's senior nutritionist, Jayne Hurley, said Monday the
> >> burrito was "another lousy invention by a fast-food company."
> >>
> >> The "country breakfast bomb," as she called it, represents half a
> >> day's calories and a full day's worth of saturated fat and salt, to
> >> say nothing of cholesterol.
> >>
> >> "That's all before 10 o'clock in the morning," she said.
> >>
> >> Haley makes no apologies.
> >>
> >> "We don't try to hide what these are," he said. "When consumers go to
> >> other fast-food places they feel like they've got to buy two of their
> >> breakfast sandwiches or burritos to fill up. This is really designed
> >> to fill you up."
> >>
> >> The government's Center for Nutritional Policy and Promotion
> >> recommends a daily caloric intake ranging from 1,600 calories for
> >> sedentary women and older adults to 2,800 calories for teenage boys
> >> and active adults. Hardee's sees its core customers as young men ages
> >> 18 to 34, Haley said, though it expects a wider range for breakfast
> >> items.
> >>
> >> The Country Breakfast Burrito is generally available for $2.69 by
> >> itself or $4.09 for a combo that includes hash rounds and coffee.
> >>
> >>
> >> Don't even wanna know what's hash rounds...
> >>
> >>
> >> Sheldon
>
> JAK wrote:
> > SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD AND HEALTHY BRECKFAST,.! MOST OF YALL ARE FATSOS
> > THAT SIP DIET SODA ANYHOW. REC.FOOD.COOKIN.FORFATSOS
> >
> > FATTY
>
> Moved to where the comment *SHOULD* be, bottom posted....
>
> I know I shouldn't respond to a troll, sorry folks, but this struck a nerve
> and it made me angry. Trust me, it takes a lot to make me angry.
>
> Fatty? You're a complete ASSHOLE. Go away. I drink diet soda, I don't eat
> fast food (okay, I had a Subway sandwich this week - 6", sue me), and I'm
> 5'7" and weigh 140 pounds. I'm 5 pounds overweight at age 40. AND, if any
> one of us *is* overweight - who the hell cares????? We're content! We've
> got to be happier than your sorry ass because we don't bash each other.
> There's no need. So either, play nice, shut the f*ck up, or get out of the
> group, you friggin' piece of sh*t!
>
> Sorry, guys, I had to vent. I know it's wrong and I know you guys are going
> to be all over me for posting this, but this individual is not welcome here
> if he/she can't play nicely. Period. This last post really ****ed me off.
> I hate the fact that my friends were insulted needlessly - and I do consider
> you all my friends.
>
> kili

I won't be all over you babe. <hugs>

Fastso is a troll so I won't bother to comment further.
You know that I am, and always will be, in YOUR corner!

If I had but one more Almond Joy bar to put in my mother's hands... <sob>

After my experience with her death, I don't regret that slice of
chocolate cheesecake I savored last night. I've not eaten anything like
that in months and it took me a good 1/2 an hour.

There are just some things in life...

I know that you, of all people, understand.
--
Peace, Om

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In article >, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

> kilikini wrote:
>
> > Sorry, guys, I had to vent. I know it's wrong and I know you guys
> > are going to be all over me for posting this, but this individual is
> > not welcome here if he/she can't play nicely. Period. This last
> > post really ****ed me off. I hate the fact that my friends were
> > insulted needlessly - and I do consider you all my friends.
>
> WOW! Who are you, and what have you done with our kili?? )))

She is our Kili.

She is a very special human being.

Sorry, I'm a bit distraught right now. Don't know what is up but I've
been crying a LOT now for 2 days... :-P

I don't know what is going on, but obviously, Kili is feeling it too so
I am totally with her.
--
Peace, Om

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In article >,
"kilikini" > wrote:

> Ophelia wrote:
> > kilikini wrote:
> >
> >> Sorry, guys, I had to vent. I know it's wrong and I know you guys
> >> are going to be all over me for posting this, but this individual is
> >> not welcome here if he/she can't play nicely. Period. This last
> >> post really ****ed me off. I hate the fact that my friends were
> >> insulted needlessly - and I do consider you all my friends.
> >
> > WOW! Who are you, and what have you done with our kili?? )))
>
> Sorry, I got upset. I know, my bad. :~)
>
> kili

No you are not hon'. ;-)

<hugs>
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"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> In article >,
> "kilikini" > wrote:
>
>> > "Sheldon" > wrote in message
>> > ups.com...
>> >> Hardee's breakfast burrito: bacon, sausage, potatoes and sausage
>> >> gravy adds up to 920 calories
>> >> By JIM SALTER,AP
>> >> Posted: 2007-10-15 14:35:13
>> >> ST. LOUIS (AP) - The people who brought you the Monster Thickburger
>> >> and the 1,100-calorie salad are at it again - this time for
>> >> breakfast.
>> >>
>> >> Hardee's on Monday rolled out its new Country Breakfast Burrito - two
>> >> egg omelets filled with bacon, sausage, diced ham, cheddar cheese,
>> >> hash browns and sausage gravy, all wrapped inside a flour tortilla.
>> >> The burrito contains 920 calories and 60 grams of fat.
>> >>
>> >> Brad Haley, marketing chief for the St. Louis-based fast-food chain,
>> >> said the burrito offers the sort of big breakfast item normally found
>> >> in sit-down restaurants with an added advantage.
>> >>
>> >> "It makes this big country breakfast portable," he said.
>> >>
>> >> In 2003 the chain introduced a line of big sandwiches, including the
>> >> Monster Thickburger. The 1,420-calorie sandwich is made up of two
>> >> 1/3- pound slabs of beef, four strips of bacon, three slices of
>> >> cheese and mayonnaise on a buttered bun.
>> >>
>> >> Even Hardees' chicken salad - topped with onion rings and crispy
>> >> chicken - has 1,100 calories and 83 grams of fat.
>> >>
>> >> The chain does offer some low-calorie options, including roast beef
>> >> and chicken sandwiches.
>> >>
>> >> The Center for Science in the Public Interest, a Washington-based
>> >> advocate for nutrition and health, has called the Hardee's line of
>> >> Thickburgers "food porn."
>> >>
>> >> The group's senior nutritionist, Jayne Hurley, said Monday the
>> >> burrito was "another lousy invention by a fast-food company."
>> >>
>> >> The "country breakfast bomb," as she called it, represents half a
>> >> day's calories and a full day's worth of saturated fat and salt, to
>> >> say nothing of cholesterol.
>> >>
>> >> "That's all before 10 o'clock in the morning," she said.
>> >>
>> >> Haley makes no apologies.
>> >>
>> >> "We don't try to hide what these are," he said. "When consumers go to
>> >> other fast-food places they feel like they've got to buy two of their
>> >> breakfast sandwiches or burritos to fill up. This is really designed
>> >> to fill you up."
>> >>
>> >> The government's Center for Nutritional Policy and Promotion
>> >> recommends a daily caloric intake ranging from 1,600 calories for
>> >> sedentary women and older adults to 2,800 calories for teenage boys
>> >> and active adults. Hardee's sees its core customers as young men ages
>> >> 18 to 34, Haley said, though it expects a wider range for breakfast
>> >> items.
>> >>
>> >> The Country Breakfast Burrito is generally available for $2.69 by
>> >> itself or $4.09 for a combo that includes hash rounds and coffee.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Don't even wanna know what's hash rounds...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Sheldon
>>
>> JAK wrote:
>> > SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD AND HEALTHY BRECKFAST,.! MOST OF YALL ARE FATSOS
>> > THAT SIP DIET SODA ANYHOW. REC.FOOD.COOKIN.FORFATSOS
>> >
>> > FATTY
>>
>> Moved to where the comment *SHOULD* be, bottom posted....
>>
>> I know I shouldn't respond to a troll, sorry folks, but this struck a
>> nerve
>> and it made me angry. Trust me, it takes a lot to make me angry.
>>
>> Fatty? You're a complete ASSHOLE. Go away. I drink diet soda, I don't
>> eat
>> fast food (okay, I had a Subway sandwich this week - 6", sue me), and I'm
>> 5'7" and weigh 140 pounds. I'm 5 pounds overweight at age 40. AND, if
>> any
>> one of us *is* overweight - who the hell cares????? We're content!
>> We've
>> got to be happier than your sorry ass because we don't bash each other.
>> There's no need. So either, play nice, shut the f*ck up, or get out of
>> the
>> group, you friggin' piece of sh*t!
>>
>> Sorry, guys, I had to vent. I know it's wrong and I know you guys are
>> going
>> to be all over me for posting this, but this individual is not welcome
>> here
>> if he/she can't play nicely. Period. This last post really ****ed me
>> off.
>> I hate the fact that my friends were insulted needlessly - and I do
>> consider
>> you all my friends.
>>
>> kili
>
> I won't be all over you babe. <hugs>
>
> Fastso is a troll so I won't bother to comment further.
> You know that I am, and always will be, in YOUR corner!
>
> If I had but one more Almond Joy bar to put in my mother's hands... <sob>
>
> After my experience with her death, I don't regret that slice of
> chocolate cheesecake I savored last night. I've not eaten anything like
> that in months and it took me a good 1/2 an hour.
>
> There are just some things in life...
>
> I know that you, of all people, understand.
> --
> Peace, Om
>
All I want to know is, how the hell did kili get into my kil file?
I did NOT do it! My $#@!ing computer is up to no good while
I am asleep, is what I think.

Hope you both feel better.

Omelet wrote:
> In article >, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>> kilikini wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry, guys, I had to vent. I know it's wrong and I know you guys
>>> are going to be all over me for posting this, but this individual is
>>> not welcome here if he/she can't play nicely. Period. This last
>>> post really ****ed me off. I hate the fact that my friends were
>>> insulted needlessly - and I do consider you all my friends.
>>
>> WOW! Who are you, and what have you done with our kili?? )))
>
> She is our Kili.
>
> She is a very special human being.

I knew that

> Sorry, I'm a bit distraught right now. Don't know what is up but I've
> been crying a LOT now for 2 days... :-P

Oh

> I don't know what is going on, but obviously, Kili is feeling it too
> so I am totally with her.

Huge great hugsssssssssssssssss for you both!!!!!!!!!!

"Omelet" > wrote in message
news
> In article >,
> "Dee Dee" > wrote:
>
>> "Omelet" > wrote in message
>> news
>> > We do SO not need 1984. Not that we are not getting damned close.
>> > --
>> > Peace, Om
>> >
>>
>>
>> We're heeeeeeeeeere!
>> Dee Dee
>
> Not quite yet.
>
> Not so long as the 2nd amendment holds out.
>
> But, I really really really don't want to start another thread about
> that. <g> Gets me too many killfiles from Hoplophobes. ;-)
> --
> Peace, Om


OK, I'll take your word for it, Om. I feel better already ;-)
No, I don't think another similar thread (so soon) is in order -- unless
you darned-well feel like it!

But, tell me, what is a Hoplo-phobe.

I've done two killfiles the past two days -- God I feel better!
Dee Dee

"Dee Dee" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Omelet" > wrote in message
> news
> > In article >,
> > "Dee Dee" > wrote:
> >
> >> "Omelet" > wrote in message
> >> news > >> > We do SO not need 1984. Not that we are not getting damned close.
> >> > --
> >> > Peace, Om
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> We're heeeeeeeeeere!
> >> Dee Dee
> >
> > Not quite yet.
> >
> > Not so long as the 2nd amendment holds out.
> >
> > But, I really really really don't want to start another thread about
> > that. <g> Gets me too many killfiles from Hoplophobes. ;-)
> > --
> > Peace, Om
>
>
> OK, I'll take your word for it, Om. I feel better already ;-)
> No, I don't think another similar thread (so soon) is in order -- unless
> you darned-well feel like it!
>
> But, tell me, what is a Hoplo-phobe.

Several fine examples are currently in and/or running for office in our
gub'ment

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoplophobe

"KW" <keith_warrennospamatallteldotnet> wrote in message
...
>
> "Dee Dee" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Omelet" > wrote in message
>> news
>> > In article >,
>> > "Dee Dee" > wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Omelet" > wrote in message
>> >> news >> >> > We do SO not need 1984. Not that we are not getting damned close.
>> >> > --
>> >> > Peace, Om
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> We're heeeeeeeeeere!
>> >> Dee Dee
>> >
>> > Not quite yet.
>> >
>> > Not so long as the 2nd amendment holds out.
>> >
>> > But, I really really really don't want to start another thread about
>> > that. <g> Gets me too many killfiles from Hoplophobes. ;-)
>> > --
>> > Peace, Om
>>
>>
>> OK, I'll take your word for it, Om. I feel better already ;-)
>> No, I don't think another similar thread (so soon) is in order -- unless
>> you darned-well feel like it!
>>
>> But, tell me, what is a Hoplo-phobe.
>
> Several fine examples are currently in and/or running for office in our
> gub'ment
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoplophobe
>

Thanks.
Dee Dee

"Dee Dee" > wrote
>
> Thanks.
> Dee Dee

I personally find nothing irrational about the fear of and
aversion to weapons. It makes perfect sense to me.

Sheldon > wrote:

>By JIM SALTER,AP
>Posted: 2007-10-15 14:35:13
>ST. LOUIS (AP) - The people who brought you the Monster Thickburger
>and the 1,100-calorie salad are at it again - this time for
>breakfast.
>
>Hardee's on Monday rolled out its new Country Breakfast Burrito - two
>egg omelets filled with bacon, sausage, diced ham, cheddar cheese,
>hash browns and sausage gravy, all wrapped inside a flour tortilla.
>The burrito contains 920 calories and 60 grams of fat.

Not too surprising.

Some time ago, I looked up the calorie content of a Baja Fresh
vegetarian burrito, and it was also over 900 calories. The
flour tortillas in those things are significant; they're oversized,
and have a high fraction of fat, and can be 350 or 400 calories just
for the tortilla.

Steve

cybercat > wrote:

> > "kilikini" > wrote:
> >
> >> Sorry, guys, I had to vent. I know it's wrong and I know you guys are
> >> going

> All I want to know is, how the hell did kili get into my kil file?
> I did NOT do it! My $#@!ing computer is up to no good while
> I am asleep, is what I think.

I don't think it's your kill file. I can't see her posts, only replies,
so I suspect she either cancelled her own posting, or someone cancelled
for her before it got too wide distribution. Some news servers honor
cancels and others don't, and depending on which servers feed others you
can get funny distribution in such a case.

There are people who forge cancels of other peoples' posts. Apparently
for fun or revenge.

Bill Ranck
Blacksburg, Va.

"cybercat" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Dee Dee" > wrote
>>
>> Thanks.
>> Dee Dee
>
> I personally find nothing irrational about the fear of and
> aversion to weapons. It makes perfect sense to me.

My aversion is:

Fear, a reaction, will definitely take over if is faced with a ball bat
ready to strike, a knife ready to stab, and a gun pointed and ready, or a
car ready to run me down, a fist in the face .....

Dee Dee

Sheldon wrote:
>
> If folks would grind their own it wouldn't too very long
> before there'd be no fast food burger joints and stupidmarkets
> wouldn't be selling preground mystery meat.

I don't know about that. If people bought steak and
ground it up for hamburger, they would discover
that you can't make a burger from it -- unless you
include a lot of fat. If you trimmed the fat off
a steak, ground it, and made a hamburger, it would
fall apart.

Sometimes ground meat allows people to remain
ignorant about just how much fat they're eating.