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Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> Thanks, but I think I was designed by nature to work like a rented
> mule.
> Regrettably, my profession does not afford me any exercise.


I can think back to years of jobs that afforded me, I thought at the time,
too much exercise, and I looked forward to the day where work did not mean
lugging heavy things around or putting up with extreme heat and cold. I had
a paper route when I was a kid and had to lug 40-50 newspapers on my
shoulder or by bicycle on a route that was over a mile. Saturdays were the
worst. When I was 14 I had a job in construction, laying foundations,
which involved pick and shovel work and moving wheelbarrows full of gravel
or cement over rough ground. I was a weekend janitor in a restaurant,
stacking tables and chairs, mopping, scrubbing etc. Then I was a clerk in a
department store where I spent most of my time moving stock around. Then
when I was in university I had a summer job in an alloy plant, a lot of
heavy work and extreme heat. I worked for a while driving a truck delivery
construction materials, and then on a highway maintenance crew. When I
worked in commercial vehicle enforcement there was a lot of walking,
crawling around under trucks, but the bad part was dealing with the heat
and humidity in the summer and the ice, snow and bitter cold of winter. It
is nice working outside when the weather is nice. Over the years I learned
that there are about 30 really nice working days in a year. The other 90%
is a drag.


> Although I realize that exercise is necessary to good health, I just
> can't > get my brain around the idea of exercising just to exercise.


Maybe you should start thinking about it. Set yourself some attainable
goals and then work to meet those goals and then set the bar a little
higher. I used to get my bike out in the warm weather and ride it for
exercise. I was a little out of shape at the beginning of the season so I
would start off just riding around the block, which is 3.5 miles. I would
be tired half way around, but each day I would add a block.

I had to lay off bike riding for a few years due to various shoulder
injuries, but got back into it seriously the year I retired. Now I can
easily do 15-20 miles.

> Walk. Where to? What am I going to do when I get there?
> Ride a bike. Ditto.
> And so on.



Ride the bike just for the heck of it. Ride it to run errands. If you need
to get a quart of milk, ride the bike to the store. Ride to the library.
Ride on any errand where you are picking up something that can be carried
in a bag on the bike.

> Spend the weekend slinging lumber and hammering nails? Excellent!
> Pulling weeds and hauling yard waste? I'm in.
> Now, that has a purpose.
>
> My best effort at losing weight was when I was young and poor, lived
> far from the bus stop, and worked in a building where my office was
> on the second floor, the bathroom was on the third floor, and the
> xerox machine was on the first floor.
>
> Believe me, I've been fat all my life. I know all the tricks and
> tips. I've
> tried everything except "eat less and exercise more".


My downfall was getting a computer. Before I discovered BBSing I used to
walk the walk around the block (3.5 miles) almost every night, and aI used
to cut my one acre lawn with a walk along mower. And then came the
Internet. I put on a few too many pounds. There wasn't time for work and
computers and exercise. Once I retired I figured that if I was going to
enjoy my retirement I had better get myself into better shape. I joined
the Y again, started swimming and had them set up a fitness regime for me.

Swimming was a good way to get the weight off, but the best way I found was
cycling. I I gained a little over the winter but I lost 20 pounds since
the warm weather came and I started cycling, and I did not have to cut down
on food, though retirement also ended the coffee and donut habit in the
morning.
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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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> rosie wrote:
>> I really do not know what I spend a month on food, I buy what I want,
>> not necessarily expensive, and I like sales. I try to eat healthy well
>> balanced meals and enjoy cooking, so sometimes it is more and
>> sometimes less.

>
> I don't know what I spend either. We eat healthily. I don't buy
> processed muck. I buy fresh fruit and veggies and fresh meat. I make our
> bread and cook every day from scratch. Yes, I know I am lucky and I am
> not putting anyone down for not doing it my way!!!!!
>
> Each to his/her own way!!


Tonight I will be having broccoli rabe -- it IS expensive, but we like it
better than other greens - $2.69 a lb. (I blanched already half of it for
another day).

Last night we had "organic" broccoli (on sale) -- it actually did taste
better. It had long thick stems, but they were very good.

Tonight I'm baking thawed 'already marinated' wild salmon (so they say); had
to try it, but the marinade is not fantastic. This is the last two fillets
of the large bag. I will stick with the plain un-marinated salmon. I don't
price-shop at Costco; I buy what looks like I'll be wanting to eat it!

I will use a recipe for broccoli rabe with penne and kalamata olives that we
like. Very simple.
Slice a few slice tomatoes and that will be it. A glass of red wine and
some chocolate later.

This morning we had eggs, doctored up black-beans, home-made bread toasted.
(Yesterday morning we had home-made yogurt, wheat germ, almonds, flax seed,
honey, berries and cinnamon.)

Snack-time today was banana and an orange and apple. I had on-hand
home-made mango bread, but we weren't interested.

There is not much money spent for beef at our house. Mostly fish, eggs,
cheese, yogurt, sometimes chicken.
This is a typical day for us -- It's hard to say what this would cost.

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One time on Usenet, flitterbit > said:
> Little Malice wrote:
> > One time on Usenet, flitterbit > said:
> >> Little Malice wrote:
> >>> One time on Usenet, "Janet B." > said:
> >>>> <Mitch@...> wrote in message
> >>>> ...
> >>>>>> There are no thin or medium-sized people that have cart contents that
> >> make
> >>>>>> you want to gag? Only those belonging to morbidly obese folks?
> >>>>>> Janet
> >>>>> Pretty much. Twinkies, Mountain Dew, Fruit Loops, nasty breaded
> >>>>> frozen junk and frozen pizzas. No produce of any kind.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The carts belonging to thin/fit people look pretty much like mine.
> >>>> I think you are selectively observant based on prejudice. I see plenty

> of
> >>>> thin and medium folks with the items you describe in their carts.
> >>> Yup. I look at grocery carts while I wait in line. They *all* have
> >>> their guilty pleasures, regardless of the shopper's size. On
> >>> occasion I'll see a cart with junk only. They usually pay with
> >>> welfare...


> >> How can you tell they're paying with "welfare"? I use my debit card to
> >> pay for groceries because I don't carry a lot of cash and don't always
> >> know beforehand how much I'll be spending. Would you assume I was on
> >> welfare because of that? Just curious

> >
> > In WA they use Quest (sp?) cards and are easy to spot. And I'll drop
> > this now because it's an ooooold subject here... :-)
> >

> I understand, I was just curious; I'm in Canada and we don't use those
> particular systems here (I have no idea what is used, to be honest).


No problem, happy to help. I just don't want to belabor the
point... :-)

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One time on Usenet, blake murphy > said:
> On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:33:20 -0400, flitterbit >
> wrote:
>
> >Little Malice wrote:
> >> One time on Usenet, "Janet B." > said:
> >>> <Mitch@...> wrote in message
> >>> ...
> >>
> >>>>> There are no thin or medium-sized people that have cart contents that

> make
> >>>>> you want to gag? Only those belonging to morbidly obese folks?
> >>>>> Janet
> >>
> >>>> Pretty much. Twinkies, Mountain Dew, Fruit Loops, nasty breaded
> >>>> frozen junk and frozen pizzas. No produce of any kind.
> >>>>
> >>>> The carts belonging to thin/fit people look pretty much like mine.
> >>> I think you are selectively observant based on prejudice. I see plenty of

>
> >>> thin and medium folks with the items you describe in their carts.
> >>
> >> Yup. I look at grocery carts while I wait in line. They *all* have
> >> their guilty pleasures, regardless of the shopper's size. On
> >> occasion I'll see a cart with junk only. They usually pay with
> >> welfare...
> >>
> > >

> >How can you tell they're paying with "welfare"? I use my debit card to
> >pay for groceries because I don't carry a lot of cash and don't always
> >know beforehand how much I'll be spending. Would you assume I was on
> >welfare because of that? Just curious

>
> she can tell because they fill their carts with junk only.


Nope. Explained upthread...

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Little Malice wrote:
> One time on Usenet, flitterbit > said:
>> Little Malice wrote:
>>> One time on Usenet, flitterbit > said:
>>>> Little Malice wrote:
>>>>> One time on Usenet, "Janet B." > said:
>>>>>> <Mitch@...> wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> There are no thin or medium-sized people that have cart contents that
>>>> make
>>>>>>>> you want to gag? Only those belonging to morbidly obese folks?
>>>>>>>> Janet
>>>>>>> Pretty much. Twinkies, Mountain Dew, Fruit Loops, nasty breaded
>>>>>>> frozen junk and frozen pizzas. No produce of any kind.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The carts belonging to thin/fit people look pretty much like mine.
>>>>>> I think you are selectively observant based on prejudice. I see plenty

>> of
>>>>>> thin and medium folks with the items you describe in their carts.
>>>>> Yup. I look at grocery carts while I wait in line. They *all* have
>>>>> their guilty pleasures, regardless of the shopper's size. On
>>>>> occasion I'll see a cart with junk only. They usually pay with
>>>>> welfare...

>
>>>> How can you tell they're paying with "welfare"? I use my debit card to
>>>> pay for groceries because I don't carry a lot of cash and don't always
>>>> know beforehand how much I'll be spending. Would you assume I was on
>>>> welfare because of that? Just curious
>>> In WA they use Quest (sp?) cards and are easy to spot. And I'll drop
>>> this now because it's an ooooold subject here... :-)
>>>

>> I understand, I was just curious; I'm in Canada and we don't use those
>> particular systems here (I have no idea what is used, to be honest).

>
> No problem, happy to help. I just don't want to belabor the
> point... :-)
>

Yep, these kinds of topics tend to overheat rather quickly
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On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 14:50:22 -0400, "cybercat" >
wrote:

>
>"blake murphy" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:25:01 -0700, Joseph Littleshoes
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>In Kilis case she should just add him to her mail filters, the only
>>>reason i don't is every now and then i like to point out his misanthropy
>>>as being indicative of his own self loathing more than anything else,
>>>certainly more so than any target he might direct his vitriol at.
>>>
>>>No body talks or writes like that without a reason.
>>>
>>>Its simply an exhibitionism of his own degree of mental illness, that he
>>>cant disguise and apparently has stopped even trying to.
>>>
>>>One makes allowances for the good hearted but social inept people,
>>>however the gratuitously violent and abusive are avoided and means to
>>>defend oneself from them are available.
>>>
>>>In the case of the internet bully/coward that is "Sheldon" the single
>>>most effective means to get him to stop bothering an individual is for
>>>that individual to set their mail filters to ignore him for the
>>>insignificant lunatic ravings his posts apparently are.

>>
>> i wouldn't dignify him with 'mental illness.' he's just a
>> garden-variety prick, and not even an entertaining one. who cares
>> why?
>>

>
>May I kiss you? Just a little one, no tongue. I wouldn't compromise your
>virtue.
>


go wild, baby.

your pal,
blake
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On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:45:30 -0700, Joseph Littleshoes
> wrote:

>blake murphy wrote:
>> On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:25:01 -0700, Joseph Littleshoes
>> > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>In Kilis case she should just add him to her mail filters, the only
>>>reason i don't is every now and then i like to point out his misanthropy
>>>as being indicative of his own self loathing more than anything else,
>>>certainly more so than any target he might direct his vitriol at.
>>>
>>>No body talks or writes like that without a reason.
>>>
>>>Its simply an exhibitionism of his own degree of mental illness, that he
>>>cant disguise and apparently has stopped even trying to.
>>>
>>>One makes allowances for the good hearted but social inept people,
>>>however the gratuitously violent and abusive are avoided and means to
>>>defend oneself from them are available.
>>>
>>>In the case of the internet bully/coward that is "Sheldon" the single
>>>most effective means to get him to stop bothering an individual is for
>>>that individual to set their mail filters to ignore him for the
>>>insignificant lunatic ravings his posts apparently are.

>>
>>
>> i wouldn't dignify him with 'mental illness.' he's just a
>> garden-variety prick, and not even an entertaining one. who cares
>> why?
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake

>
>
>Oy! a favourite semantic quibble of mine.
>
> "2. vulgar slang a penis. • a man regarded as stupid, unpleasant, or
>contemptible."
>
>But why use a "penis" to describe someone or something as "stupid,
>unpleasant or contemptible."
>
>Same with what i would consider Sheldon to be anatomically less than a
>prick but rather more of a ****, ****, vagina & etc. but even then why
>denigrate a person or thing with or by a comparison to female
>reproductive anatomy?
>
>Same goes for Ass and and the most prevalent slang term (F**K) for
>copulation, the most very sacred Tantric Union used as a term of
>opprobrium.
>
>The only sense it makes to me is to indicate a certain .... how do i put
>this politely..."false early training" in the Calvinistic mode that no
>matter how much it has been over come in practice still rears its ugly,
>hypocritical and inaccurate "head" routinely and with out comment in
>ordinary speech....am i really the only one who sees this?
>
>"This" being the Calvinistic sexual taboos reinforced by language and
>the use of the reproductive slang as insult.
>
>I must admit i have an affinity for "Ass" but in reference to the
>domesticated equine rather than the human eliminatory orifice, i.e.
>
>"Be not as the Ass in the Lion's Skin; but if thou be born Ass, bear
>patiently thy Burdens, and enjoy thy Thistles; for an Ass also, as in
>the Fables of Apuleius and Matthaiss, may come to Glory in the Path of
>his own Virtue."


there are dangers in being overly literal-minded.

in language, usage is everything. the derogatory terms 'prick,'
'****,' 'ass' or 'asshole' denote varied personality flaws that are
clearly discernable from each other as well as the organs involved.

to me, sheldon is clearly a 'prick.' a '****' would be, say, ann
coulter, notwithstanding her adam's apple.

your pal,
blake
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On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:46:32 -0500, Sqwertz >
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>On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 09:13:18 -0700, Mark Thorson wrote:
>
>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 21:19:36 -0400, Sarah Gray wrote:
>>>
>>>> well, yeah, that, too. I am just amazed at how little "real" food people
>>>> actually buy. There are entire *aisles* I skip at the local Meijer.
>>>
>>> When I shopped at Meijers (Columbus OH), I always skipped the
>>> guns, ammunition, boots, lingerie, and toy isles ;-)

>>
>> Obviously not shopping with Omelet. :-)

>
>Yeah - she would have dragged me into the lingerie isle and held
>teddies up to me for size.
>
>-sw


you make that sound like a bad thing.

your pal,
blake
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Gregory Morrow wrote:

> Joseph Littleshoes
>
>
>>I get a pound of Mexican coffee for $3.25 that i prefer over fancier and
>>costlier beans.

>
>
>
> Interesting about coffee...
>
> At the Asian stores here in Chicago I can get a can of New Orleans
> "Cafe du Monde" French Market coffee for $2.99, at the stupormarkets
> it runs at least twice that - saw it at World Market the other day for
> $6.99! The Asian places I frequent are largely Vietnamese - run, they
> always have good strong coffee for around $3.00 for a 15 oz. or so
> can...
>
> Cafe Bustelo is another good coffee that can be gotten very cheaply at
> an ethnic/Hispanic place...
>
> --
> Best
> Greg


Yep, its all where you shop, i was in an upscale market i used to
routinely shop at with a friend a few months ago, and thought a small
jar of Medalia d' Oro instant espresso would be nice but not for 10
dollars! a few days ago i saw the same jar for around $3.75 in a local
Chinese market.

I was giving a friend who recently moved into the neighbourhood the
grand tour a couple of weeks ago and we went into the local "Smart and
Finale" and she was impressed with the prices for the instant coffee,
around 10 dollars for a jar of brand name instant coffee.

She was about to stock up on several jars when i suggested we walk a few
more blocks to a small "mom and pop" type grocery store in chinatown,
where a big jar of generic instant coffee is $2.75. She was stunned! I
only knew about it cause i get such good prices in that particular store
on sesame and peanut oil and the various chinese condiments i buy, plus
the lady who owns the place brings in produce from her own garden, i get
great big leeks there in season 2 for a dollar, wonderful acorn squash
usually runs around 1 dollar each.
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"blake murphy" > wrote in message
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> there are dangers in being overly literal-minded.
>
> in language, usage is everything. the derogatory terms 'prick,'
> '****,' 'ass' or 'asshole' denote varied personality flaws that are
> clearly discernable from each other as well as the organs involved.
>
> to me, sheldon is clearly a 'prick.' a '****' would be, say, ann
> coulter, notwithstanding her adam's apple.
>
> your pal,
> blake



It is not very nice to make fun of people's physical differences.
For shame!

As to Katz' making fun of my hair, I think that's pretty lame, too. Mine is
genetic; nothing could tame it, unless I want to spend a fortune.

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"Dee Dee" > wrote in message
...
>
> "blake murphy" > wrote in message
> ...
>> there are dangers in being overly literal-minded.
>>
>> in language, usage is everything. the derogatory terms 'prick,'
>> '****,' 'ass' or 'asshole' denote varied personality flaws that are
>> clearly discernable from each other as well as the organs involved.
>>
>> to me, sheldon is clearly a 'prick.' a '****' would be, say, ann
>> coulter, notwithstanding her adam's apple.
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake

>
>
> It is not very nice to make fun of people's physical differences.
> For shame!


It's okay. He was talking about Ann Coulter.


>
> As to Katz' making fun of my hair, I think that's pretty lame, too. Mine
> is genetic; nothing could tame it, unless I want to spend a fortune.
>


I have not seen your picture, but if you have curly hair, I used to pay a
lot
of money to have my fine, straight (albeit thick) hair "permed." I was born
with the tamest hair ever, and would have loved to have had curly hair, or
hair that did *something.* I am talking straight as a pin hair, baby fine
and
heavy, so it hangs even straighter. My mother used to put curlers in it
and if she did not spray it crispy it was straight again five minutes after
coming out of the curlers, despite the Dippity Do glaze. It won the
battle
years ago. Now I just keep it healthy and shiny and let it hang there. A
bluntish
shoulder-length cut is the most I will do to it besides wash it.


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"blake murphy" > wrote in message
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> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 14:50:22 -0400, "cybercat" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"blake murphy" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:25:01 -0700, Joseph Littleshoes
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>In Kilis case she should just add him to her mail filters, the only
>>>>reason i don't is every now and then i like to point out his misanthropy
>>>>as being indicative of his own self loathing more than anything else,
>>>>certainly more so than any target he might direct his vitriol at.
>>>>
>>>>No body talks or writes like that without a reason.
>>>>
>>>>Its simply an exhibitionism of his own degree of mental illness, that he
>>>>cant disguise and apparently has stopped even trying to.
>>>>
>>>>One makes allowances for the good hearted but social inept people,
>>>>however the gratuitously violent and abusive are avoided and means to
>>>>defend oneself from them are available.
>>>>
>>>>In the case of the internet bully/coward that is "Sheldon" the single
>>>>most effective means to get him to stop bothering an individual is for
>>>>that individual to set their mail filters to ignore him for the
>>>>insignificant lunatic ravings his posts apparently are.
>>>
>>> i wouldn't dignify him with 'mental illness.' he's just a
>>> garden-variety prick, and not even an entertaining one. who cares
>>> why?
>>>

>>
>>May I kiss you? Just a little one, no tongue. I wouldn't compromise your
>>virtue.
>>

>
> go wild, baby.
>


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"cybercat" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Dee Dee" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "blake murphy" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> there are dangers in being overly literal-minded.
>>>
>>> in language, usage is everything. the derogatory terms 'prick,'
>>> '****,' 'ass' or 'asshole' denote varied personality flaws that are
>>> clearly discernable from each other as well as the organs involved.
>>>
>>> to me, sheldon is clearly a 'prick.' a '****' would be, say, ann
>>> coulter, notwithstanding her adam's apple.
>>>
>>> your pal,
>>> blake

>>
>>
>> It is not very nice to make fun of people's physical differences.
>> For shame!

>
> It's okay. He was talking about Ann Coulter.
>
>
>>
>> As to Katz' making fun of my hair, I think that's pretty lame, too. Mine
>> is genetic; nothing could tame it, unless I want to spend a fortune.
>>

>
> I have not seen your picture, but if you have curly hair, I used to pay a
> lot
> of money to have my fine, straight (albeit thick) hair "permed." I was
> born
> with the tamest hair ever, and would have loved to have had curly hair, or
> hair that did *something.* I am talking straight as a pin hair, baby fine
> and
> heavy, so it hangs even straighter. My mother used to put curlers in it
> and if she did not spray it crispy it was straight again five minutes
> after
> coming out of the curlers, despite the Dippity Do glaze. It won the
> battle
> years ago. Now I just keep it healthy and shiny and let it hang there. A
> bluntish
> shoulder-length cut is the most I will do to it besides wash it.


Here is a pathetic story. I had a friend (actually my best friend) in high
school in the very early 50's. She had a husband in the military who sent
his check to her and as she had money, she had her hair done each week. I
always thought it was beautiful. My hair is a hair-dresser's nightmare. At
graduation day, she told me that my hair looked so bad and was laughing
about it to my face when others joined in.

About 10 years ago I ran into her when I was at a reunion and she brought up
the cruel remark that she made to me about my hair. I told her that I
didn't remember it; but I did.

Today it is a rainy day, my hair is fuzzy (not really curly at all - like
yours, won't hold a curl) and very thick and very coarse. But I have more
hair than three persons should have. Even braiding it is ugly because the
braids are too thick LOL. Actually it's sort of funny when I think about
it.

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On Oct 24, 12:38 pm, blake murphy > wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:46:32 -0500, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 09:13:18 -0700, Mark Thorson wrote:

>
> >> Sqwertz wrote:

>
> >>> On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 21:19:36 -0400, Sarah Gray wrote:

>
> >>>> well, yeah, that, too. I am just amazed at how little "real" food people
> >>>> actually buy. There are entire *aisles* I skip at the local Meijer.

>
> >>> When I shopped at Meijers (Columbus OH), I always skipped the
> >>> guns, ammunition, boots, lingerie, and toy isles ;-)

>
> >> Obviously not shopping with Omelet. :-)

>
> >Yeah - she would have dragged me into the lingerie isle and held
> >teddies up to me for size.

>
> >-sw

>
> you make that sound like a bad thing.


Obviously, Steve isn't into wearing teddies.
Personally, I'd have no problem if a chick wanted me to wear lingerie,
but not all guys are like that.
>
> your pal,
> blake


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Bobo Bonobo® wrote:
> On Oct 24, 12:38 pm, blake murphy > wrote:
>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:46:32 -0500, Sqwertz >
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 09:13:18 -0700, Mark Thorson wrote:
>>>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 21:19:36 -0400, Sarah Gray wrote:
>>>>>> well, yeah, that, too. I am just amazed at how little "real" food people
>>>>>> actually buy. There are entire *aisles* I skip at the local Meijer.
>>>>> When I shopped at Meijers (Columbus OH), I always skipped the
>>>>> guns, ammunition, boots, lingerie, and toy isles ;-)
>>>> Obviously not shopping with Omelet. :-)
>>> Yeah - she would have dragged me into the lingerie isle and held
>>> teddies up to me for size.
>>> -sw

>> you make that sound like a bad thing.

>
> Obviously, Steve isn't into wearing teddies.
> Personally, I'd have no problem if a chick wanted me to wear lingerie,
> but not all guys are like that.
>> your pal,
>> blake

>
> --Bryan
>


in or out of the bedroom?


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"Sarah Gray" > wrote in message
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> Bobo Bonobo® wrote:
>> On Oct 24, 12:38 pm, blake murphy > wrote:
>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:46:32 -0500, Sqwertz >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 09:13:18 -0700, Mark Thorson wrote:
>>>>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 21:19:36 -0400, Sarah Gray wrote:
>>>>>>> well, yeah, that, too. I am just amazed at how little "real" food
>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>> actually buy. There are entire *aisles* I skip at the local Meijer.
>>>>>> When I shopped at Meijers (Columbus OH), I always skipped the
>>>>>> guns, ammunition, boots, lingerie, and toy isles ;-)
>>>>> Obviously not shopping with Omelet. :-)
>>>> Yeah - she would have dragged me into the lingerie isle and held
>>>> teddies up to me for size.
>>>> -sw
>>> you make that sound like a bad thing.

>>
>> Obviously, Steve isn't into wearing teddies.
>> Personally, I'd have no problem if a chick wanted me to wear lingerie,
>> but not all guys are like that.
>>> your pal,
>>> blake

>>
>> --Bryan
>>

>
> in or out of the bedroom?
>


Probably depends on the chick.

How'd I do, Blake?


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Magdalena Bassett wrote:
> Ophelia wrote:
>
>> rosie wrote:
>>
>>> I really do not know what I spend a month on food, I buy what I
>>> want, not necessarily expensive, and I like sales. I try to eat
>>> healthy well balanced meals and enjoy cooking, so sometimes it is
>>> more and sometimes less.

>>
>>
>> I don't know what I spend either. We eat healthily. I don't buy
>> processed muck. I buy fresh fruit and veggies and fresh meat. I
>> make our bread and cook every day from scratch. Yes, I know I am
>> lucky and I am not putting anyone down for not doing it my way!!!!!
>>
>> Each to his/her own way!!
>>

>
> And I thought I was the only one. I realized long time ago that if we
> eat healthy organic food, we will stay healthy. So far, it works. We
> eat from the garden or buy from a local organic farmer, we buy
> organic pork, chickens and eggs from neighbors, locally caught
> salmon, try to omit beef as much as possible, never buy canned or
> processed foods or farmed fish, make our bread, cook every day from
> scratch (well, ok, we eat out once a week). We drink water, green
> tea, herbal tea, red wine and beer. We eat plenty of butter
>
> We are both in our fifties. We have no medical problems, take no
> prescription drugs, and easily keep our weight in check. It works for
> us. Magdalena Bassett


Not everyone has the option of buying "organic" from neighbors nor from
growing produce and raising animals ourselves. I take exception to
everything labelled "organic" in a grocery store since I have no way of
ascertaining the truth myself.

I don't see them feed the cows and the chickens. How do I know they're
"free range"? I don't. Nor do I see what they put (or don't put) on the
vegetables to make them grow without bugs, squirrels and birds getting at
them.

I don't live in a farming community. I don't get to walk a few miles down
the road to find out what they're doing (or not doing). I'm suspect of
anything labelled "organic". Do you really know? Or are you just taking
their word for it? You know about your own vegetables. But do you harvest
the wheat with which you bake your bread? Do you know about everything else
you purchase?

Jill


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blake murphy wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:45:30 -0700, Joseph Littleshoes
> > wrote:
>
>
>>blake murphy wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:25:01 -0700, Joseph Littleshoes
> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>In Kilis case she should just add him to her mail filters, the only
>>>>reason i don't is every now and then i like to point out his misanthropy
>>>>as being indicative of his own self loathing more than anything else,
>>>>certainly more so than any target he might direct his vitriol at.
>>>>
>>>>No body talks or writes like that without a reason.
>>>>
>>>>Its simply an exhibitionism of his own degree of mental illness, that he
>>>>cant disguise and apparently has stopped even trying to.
>>>>
>>>>One makes allowances for the good hearted but social inept people,
>>>>however the gratuitously violent and abusive are avoided and means to
>>>>defend oneself from them are available.
>>>>
>>>>In the case of the internet bully/coward that is "Sheldon" the single
>>>>most effective means to get him to stop bothering an individual is for
>>>>that individual to set their mail filters to ignore him for the
>>>>insignificant lunatic ravings his posts apparently are.
>>>
>>>
>>>i wouldn't dignify him with 'mental illness.' he's just a
>>>garden-variety prick, and not even an entertaining one. who cares
>>>why?
>>>
>>>your pal,
>>>blake

>>
>>
>>Oy! a favourite semantic quibble of mine.
>>
>> "2. vulgar slang a penis. • a man regarded as stupid, unpleasant, or
>>contemptible."
>>
>>But why use a "penis" to describe someone or something as "stupid,
>>unpleasant or contemptible."
>>
>>Same with what i would consider Sheldon to be anatomically less than a
>>prick but rather more of a ****, ****, vagina & etc. but even then why
>>denigrate a person or thing with or by a comparison to female
>>reproductive anatomy?
>>
>>Same goes for Ass and and the most prevalent slang term (F**K) for
>>copulation, the most very sacred Tantric Union used as a term of
>>opprobrium.
>>
>>The only sense it makes to me is to indicate a certain .... how do i put
>>this politely..."false early training" in the Calvinistic mode that no
>>matter how much it has been over come in practice still rears its ugly,
>>hypocritical and inaccurate "head" routinely and with out comment in
>>ordinary speech....am i really the only one who sees this?
>>
>>"This" being the Calvinistic sexual taboos reinforced by language and
>>the use of the reproductive slang as insult.
>>
>>I must admit i have an affinity for "Ass" but in reference to the
>>domesticated equine rather than the human eliminatory orifice, i.e.
>>
>>"Be not as the Ass in the Lion's Skin; but if thou be born Ass, bear
>>patiently thy Burdens, and enjoy thy Thistles; for an Ass also, as in
>>the Fables of Apuleius and Matthaiss, may come to Glory in the Path of
>>his own Virtue."

>
>
> there are dangers in being overly literal-minded.
>
> in language, usage is everything. the derogatory terms 'prick,'
> '****,' 'ass' or 'asshole' denote varied personality flaws that are
> clearly discernable from each other as well as the organs involved.
>
> to me, sheldon is clearly a 'prick.' a '****' would be, say, ann
> coulter, notwithstanding her adam's apple.
>
> your pal,
> blake


Some linguists have argued that the forming of such concepts and the use
of such words come from a time and place where the body and its natural
processes are perceived as "evil".

The world, the flesh and the devil and all that.

In Native american usage one insult for an assimilated Native american
is to call them an "apple" red on the outside white on the inside.
"Treaty talk" is a description of a promise made by a white person,
synonymous with "lies"


From "Not the Indian Way" by Frank C. Miller. In the Minneapolis Star
Tribune, 4/2/05:

Dan agreed to teach me about Indian ways and something of the Ojibwe
language (or Anishinabe, as some prefer to call it). Our classroom was a
lovingly designed "learning environment": We sat in the grass on the
shores of the lake, whose breezes kept the mosquitoes at bay. As part of
my faltering efforts to learn the language, I collected long lists of words.

By the second afternoon, Dan would occasionally say, "I told you that
one yesterday," and I would respond that I didn't think so. But I would
check my notes and discover that he was always right.

A supremely patient man, Dan eventually became visibly bored and stopped
responding. For a while we watched a kingfisher dive and scoop up fish.

Finally he broke the silence: "You know, Frank, it's interesting. We
have no swear words in our language." I perked up but I tried to stay
low-keyed.

"No swear words?"

"Not a one. We don't take the names of our gods in vain."

"How about dirty words?"

Dan hesitated. He was probably wondering how to explain things to such a
naive questioner. Then he put it delicately: "We don't think the doings
of the body are dirty, so we don't have any dirty words either."

"So what do you say when you want to insult somebody?"

"Well, we call white people 'monkeys' because they have hair on their
bodies and they chatter so much."

When I laughed and said "Ouch," he chuckled but again stopped talking
and watched the kingfisher. Excited because I was getting good data, I
pressed on and asked about other insults.

After hesitating he explained patiently, "The worst insult is to call
somebody a pig or a hog. They're greedy and that's not the Indian way."
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On Oct 25, 11:01 am, "jmcquown" > wrote:

> But do you harvest the wheat with which you bake your bread?


I'm the Little Red Hen. I do all that stuff.
>
> Jill


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On Oct 25, 12:01?pm, "jmcquown" > wrote:
> Magdalena Bassett wrote:
> > Ophelia wrote:

>
> >> rosie wrote:

>
> >>> I really do not know what I spend a month on food, I buy what I
> >>> want, not necessarily expensive, and I like sales. I try to eat
> >>> healthy well balanced meals and enjoy cooking, so sometimes it is
> >>> more and sometimes less.

>
> >> I don't know what I spend either. We eat healthily. I don't buy
> >> processed muck. I buy fresh fruit and veggies and fresh meat. I
> >> make our bread and cook every day from scratch. Yes, I know I am
> >> lucky and I am not putting anyone down for not doing it my way!!!!!

>
> >> Each to his/her own way!!

>
> > And I thought I was the only one. I realized long time ago that if we
> > eat healthy organic food, we will stay healthy. So far, it works. We
> > eat from the garden or buy from a local organic farmer, we buy
> > organic pork, chickens and eggs from neighbors, locally caught
> > salmon, try to omit beef as much as possible, never buy canned or
> > processed foods or farmed fish, make our bread, cook every day from
> > scratch (well, ok, we eat out once a week). We drink water, green
> > tea, herbal tea, red wine and beer. We eat plenty of butter

>
> > We are both in our fifties. We have no medical problems, take no
> > prescription drugs, and easily keep our weight in check. It works for
> > us. Magdalena Bassett

>
> Not everyone has the option of buying "organic" from neighbors nor from
> growing produce and raising animals ourselves. I take exception to
> everything labelled "organic" in a grocery store since I have no way of
> ascertaining the truth myself.
>
> I don't see them feed the cows and the chickens. How do I know they're
> "free range"? I don't. Nor do I see what they put (or don't put) on the
> vegetables to make them grow without bugs, squirrels and birds getting at
> them.
>
> I don't live in a farming community. I don't get to walk a few miles down
> the road to find out what they're doing (or not doing). I'm suspect of
> anything labelled "organic". Do you really know? Or are you just taking
> their word for it? You know about your own vegetables. But do you harvest
> the wheat with which you bake your bread? Do you know about everything else
> you purchase?


Jill, you are 100pct correct... there is no such thing as organic,
it's a fairytale concept. I grow my own vegetables and don't use any
chemicals, but I can't control the acid rain, the air pollution, and
the runoff.... nor can I know what the last farmer used on my land....
all farmland has to be assumed to contain some level of chemicals.
The only indication I have that tells me my produce is more organic
than from the stupidmarket is that most of what I harvest invariably
contains worms, insects, slugs, and various animal bites... there is
no way to grow produce organically without it containing insects,
worms, slugs, and rodent nibbles, therefore I don't believe any effort
whatsoever was made to grow that over priced produce organically.
Yeah, I know that there are all kinds of organic insecticides and I've
tried many but none work very well, if at all... and I still plant
marigolds all over my garden, but all they do is gussy the place up
and attract seed eating birds that also peck my crops... birds will
peck away half a tomato to get at a worm.

I don't use any chemical fertilizers either, but all hydroponically
grown crops do rely heavily on chemical fertilizers... it won't have
worm holes because it's not grown outdoors, but you'll be ingesting
lots of chemicals from the fertilizers used.

And when you buy produce at the market it all comes out of the same
crate, the kid in the back room just picks out the nicer looking
peppers to stick into the organic bin... you pay double for peppers to
cover the kid's labor... do you really care that you have picture
perfect peppers. Only the more dollars than brain cells *easily led*
morons buy organic.

Sheldon

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> I don't live in a farming community. I don't get to walk a few miles
> down the road to find out what they're doing (or not doing). I'm
> suspect of anything labelled "organic". Do you really know? Or are
> you just taking their word for it? You know about your own
> vegetables. But do you harvest the wheat with which you bake your
> bread? Do you know about everything else you purchase?


Of course not Jill. But we can only do the best we can!


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Sheldon wrote:
> And when you buy produce at the market it all comes out of the same
> crate, the kid in the back room just picks out the nicer looking
> peppers to stick into the organic bin... you pay double for peppers to
> cover the kid's labor... do you really care that you have picture
> perfect peppers. Only the more dollars than brain cells *easily led*
> morons buy organic.


As I said Shelly sweetie, we do the best we can. We are not all so lucky as
you to have land on which to grow our own crops. In UK there are strict
laws about what can be called 'organic'.

I say it again, We do the best we can!

Moronic O

ps You didn't argue with me when I cooked my whole organic chicken for
stock


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jmcquown wrote:

> Magdalena Bassett wrote:
> > Ophelia wrote:
> >
> >> rosie wrote:
> > >
> >>> I really do not know what I spend a month on food, I buy what I
> >>> want, not necessarily expensive, and I like sales. I try to eat
> >>> healthy well balanced meals and enjoy cooking, so sometimes it is
> >>> more and sometimes less.
> > >
> > >
> >> I don't know what I spend either. We eat healthily. I don't buy
> >> processed muck. I buy fresh fruit and veggies and fresh meat. I
> >> make our bread and cook every day from scratch. Yes, I know I am
> >> lucky and I am not putting anyone down for not doing it my way!!!!!
> > >
> >> Each to his/her own way!!
> > >

> >
> > And I thought I was the only one. I realized long time ago that if
> > we eat healthy organic food, we will stay healthy. So far, it
> > works. We eat from the garden or buy from a local organic farmer,
> > we buy organic pork, chickens and eggs from neighbors, locally
> > caught salmon, try to omit beef as much as possible, never buy
> > canned or processed foods or farmed fish, make our bread, cook
> > every day from scratch (well, ok, we eat out once a week). We drink
> > water, green tea, herbal tea, red wine and beer. We eat plenty of
> > butter
> >
> > We are both in our fifties. We have no medical problems, take no
> > prescription drugs, and easily keep our weight in check. It works
> > for us. Magdalena Bassett

>
> Not everyone has the option of buying "organic" from neighbors nor
> from growing produce and raising animals ourselves. I take exception
> to everything labelled "organic" in a grocery store since I have no
> way of ascertaining the truth myself.
>
> I don't see them feed the cows and the chickens. How do I know
> they're "free range"? I don't. Nor do I see what they put (or don't
> put) on the vegetables to make them grow without bugs, squirrels and
> birds getting at them.
>
> I don't live in a farming community. I don't get to walk a few miles
> down the road to find out what they're doing (or not doing). I'm
> suspect of anything labelled "organic". Do you really know? Or are
> you just taking their word for it? You know about your own
> vegetables. But do you harvest the wheat with which you bake your
> bread? Do you know about everything else you purchase?


I trust my organically correct co-op (The Wedge, Minneapolis) to choose
properly.

I do _not_ trust them to make sure everything is good for me. To begin
with, there's the "sea salt can't possibly be bad for you" mindset.


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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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> jmcquown wrote:
>> I don't live in a farming community. I don't get to walk a few miles
>> down the road to find out what they're doing (or not doing). I'm
>> suspect of anything labelled "organic". Do you really know? Or are
>> you just taking their word for it? You know about your own
>> vegetables. But do you harvest the wheat with which you bake your
>> bread? Do you know about everything else you purchase?

>
> Of course not Jill. But we can only do the best we can!

Oh, no you can't! You can do MUCH better than you can. And Jill can tell you
how.




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On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 16:40:08 -0400, "Dee Dee" >
wrote:

>
>"cybercat" > wrote in message
...
>>
>> "Dee Dee" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "blake murphy" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> there are dangers in being overly literal-minded.
>>>>
>>>> in language, usage is everything. the derogatory terms 'prick,'
>>>> '****,' 'ass' or 'asshole' denote varied personality flaws that are
>>>> clearly discernable from each other as well as the organs involved.
>>>>
>>>> to me, sheldon is clearly a 'prick.' a '****' would be, say, ann
>>>> coulter, notwithstanding her adam's apple.
>>>>
>>>> your pal,
>>>> blake
>>>
>>>
>>> It is not very nice to make fun of people's physical differences.
>>> For shame!

>>
>> It's okay. He was talking about Ann Coulter.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> As to Katz' making fun of my hair, I think that's pretty lame, too. Mine
>>> is genetic; nothing could tame it, unless I want to spend a fortune.
>>>

>>
>> I have not seen your picture, but if you have curly hair, I used to pay a
>> lot
>> of money to have my fine, straight (albeit thick) hair "permed." I was
>> born
>> with the tamest hair ever, and would have loved to have had curly hair, or
>> hair that did *something.* I am talking straight as a pin hair, baby fine
>> and
>> heavy, so it hangs even straighter. My mother used to put curlers in it
>> and if she did not spray it crispy it was straight again five minutes
>> after
>> coming out of the curlers, despite the Dippity Do glaze. It won the
>> battle
>> years ago. Now I just keep it healthy and shiny and let it hang there. A
>> bluntish
>> shoulder-length cut is the most I will do to it besides wash it.

>
>Here is a pathetic story. I had a friend (actually my best friend) in high
>school in the very early 50's. She had a husband in the military who sent
>his check to her and as she had money, she had her hair done each week. I
>always thought it was beautiful. My hair is a hair-dresser's nightmare. At
>graduation day, she told me that my hair looked so bad and was laughing
>about it to my face when others joined in.
>
>About 10 years ago I ran into her when I was at a reunion and she brought up
>the cruel remark that she made to me about my hair. I told her that I
>didn't remember it; but I did.
>
>Today it is a rainy day, my hair is fuzzy (not really curly at all - like
>yours, won't hold a curl) and very thick and very coarse. But I have more
>hair than three persons should have. Even braiding it is ugly because the
>braids are too thick LOL. Actually it's sort of funny when I think about
>it.
>
>Dee Dee
>


if she was getting a perm each week, it's likely falling out right
about now. wail with what you got, i say.

your pal,
blake
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On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 23:48:06 -0400, "cybercat" >
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>"Sarah Gray" > wrote in message
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>> Bobo Bonobo® wrote:
>>> On Oct 24, 12:38 pm, blake murphy > wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:46:32 -0500, Sqwertz >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 09:13:18 -0700, Mark Thorson wrote:
>>>>>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 21:19:36 -0400, Sarah Gray wrote:
>>>>>>>> well, yeah, that, too. I am just amazed at how little "real" food
>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>> actually buy. There are entire *aisles* I skip at the local Meijer.
>>>>>>> When I shopped at Meijers (Columbus OH), I always skipped the
>>>>>>> guns, ammunition, boots, lingerie, and toy isles ;-)
>>>>>> Obviously not shopping with Omelet. :-)
>>>>> Yeah - she would have dragged me into the lingerie isle and held
>>>>> teddies up to me for size.
>>>>> -sw
>>>> you make that sound like a bad thing.
>>>
>>> Obviously, Steve isn't into wearing teddies.
>>> Personally, I'd have no problem if a chick wanted me to wear lingerie,
>>> but not all guys are like that.
>>>> your pal,
>>>> blake
>>>
>>> --Bryan
>>>

>>
>> in or out of the bedroom?
>>

>
>Probably depends on the chick.
>
>How'd I do, Blake?
>


what, are we done already? er, fine.

your pal,
blake
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On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 16:23:27 -0400, "cybercat" >
wrote:

>
>"blake murphy" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 14:50:22 -0400, "cybercat" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"blake murphy" > wrote in message
...
>>>> On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:25:01 -0700, Joseph Littleshoes
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>In Kilis case she should just add him to her mail filters, the only
>>>>>reason i don't is every now and then i like to point out his misanthropy
>>>>>as being indicative of his own self loathing more than anything else,
>>>>>certainly more so than any target he might direct his vitriol at.
>>>>>
>>>>>No body talks or writes like that without a reason.
>>>>>
>>>>>Its simply an exhibitionism of his own degree of mental illness, that he
>>>>>cant disguise and apparently has stopped even trying to.
>>>>>
>>>>>One makes allowances for the good hearted but social inept people,
>>>>>however the gratuitously violent and abusive are avoided and means to
>>>>>defend oneself from them are available.
>>>>>
>>>>>In the case of the internet bully/coward that is "Sheldon" the single
>>>>>most effective means to get him to stop bothering an individual is for
>>>>>that individual to set their mail filters to ignore him for the
>>>>>insignificant lunatic ravings his posts apparently are.
>>>>
>>>> i wouldn't dignify him with 'mental illness.' he's just a
>>>> garden-variety prick, and not even an entertaining one. who cares
>>>> why?
>>>>
>>>
>>>May I kiss you? Just a little one, no tongue. I wouldn't compromise your
>>>virtue.
>>>

>>
>> go wild, baby.
>>

>
>Got a light?
>


i didn't know of any sexual practices involving fire (with the
possible exception of smoking afterwards), but sure.

your pal,
blake
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> wrote:

>Magdalena Bassett wrote:
>> Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>> rosie wrote:
>>>
>>>> I really do not know what I spend a month on food, I buy what I
>>>> want, not necessarily expensive, and I like sales. I try to eat
>>>> healthy well balanced meals and enjoy cooking, so sometimes it is
>>>> more and sometimes less.
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know what I spend either. We eat healthily. I don't buy
>>> processed muck. I buy fresh fruit and veggies and fresh meat. I
>>> make our bread and cook every day from scratch. Yes, I know I am
>>> lucky and I am not putting anyone down for not doing it my way!!!!!
>>>
>>> Each to his/her own way!!
>>>

>>
>> And I thought I was the only one. I realized long time ago that if we
>> eat healthy organic food, we will stay healthy. So far, it works. We
>> eat from the garden or buy from a local organic farmer, we buy
>> organic pork, chickens and eggs from neighbors, locally caught
>> salmon, try to omit beef as much as possible, never buy canned or
>> processed foods or farmed fish, make our bread, cook every day from
>> scratch (well, ok, we eat out once a week). We drink water, green
>> tea, herbal tea, red wine and beer. We eat plenty of butter
>>
>> We are both in our fifties. We have no medical problems, take no
>> prescription drugs, and easily keep our weight in check. It works for
>> us. Magdalena Bassett

>
>Not everyone has the option of buying "organic" from neighbors nor from
>growing produce and raising animals ourselves. I take exception to
>everything labelled "organic" in a grocery store since I have no way of
>ascertaining the truth myself.
>
>I don't see them feed the cows and the chickens. How do I know they're
>"free range"? I don't. Nor do I see what they put (or don't put) on the
>vegetables to make them grow without bugs, squirrels and birds getting at
>them.
>
>I don't live in a farming community. I don't get to walk a few miles down
>the road to find out what they're doing (or not doing). I'm suspect of
>anything labelled "organic". Do you really know? Or are you just taking
>their word for it? You know about your own vegetables. But do you harvest
>the wheat with which you bake your bread? Do you know about everything else
>you purchase?
>
>Jill
>


plus, the big stores are notorious for selling piglets disguised as
chickens.

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On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 09:15:00 -0700, Bobo Bonobo® >
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>On Oct 25, 11:01 am, "jmcquown" > wrote:
>
>> But do you harvest the wheat with which you bake your bread?

>
>I'm the Little Red Hen. I do all that stuff.
>>
>> Jill

>
>--Bryan


i bet you like the part where you say '**** you all' afterwards.

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On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 14:17:12 -0400, "cybercat" >
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>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> I don't live in a farming community. I don't get to walk a few miles
>>> down the road to find out what they're doing (or not doing). I'm
>>> suspect of anything labelled "organic". Do you really know? Or are
>>> you just taking their word for it? You know about your own
>>> vegetables. But do you harvest the wheat with which you bake your
>>> bread? Do you know about everything else you purchase?

>>
>> Of course not Jill. But we can only do the best we can!

>Oh, no you can't! You can do MUCH better than you can. And Jill can tell you
>how.
>

not only that, but how her scottish grandmother did it even better.

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On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:06:31 +0100, "Ophelia" > wrote:

>Sheldon wrote:
>> And when you buy produce at the market it all comes out of the same
>> crate, the kid in the back room just picks out the nicer looking
>> peppers to stick into the organic bin... you pay double for peppers to
>> cover the kid's labor... do you really care that you have picture
>> perfect peppers. Only the more dollars than brain cells *easily led*
>> morons buy organic.

>
>As I said Shelly sweetie, we do the best we can. We are not all so lucky as
>you to have land on which to grow our own crops. In UK there are strict
>laws about what can be called 'organic'.
>
>I say it again, We do the best we can!
>
>Moronic O
>
>ps You didn't argue with me when I cooked my whole organic chicken for
>stock
>


he was sitting on his hands on that one from telling you he personally
saw that chicken out behind the store smoking a cigarette. they're
all out to get you!

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blake murphy wrote:
>"cybercat" wrote:
>
>
>>"blake murphy" wrote:
>>
>>>"cybercat" wrote:
>>>
>>>>"blake murphy" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>i wouldn't dignify him with 'mental illness.' he's just a
>>>>>garden-variety prick, and not even an entertaining one. who cares
>>>>>why?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>May I kiss you? Just a little one, no tongue. I wouldn't compromise your
>>>>virtue.
>>>>
>>>
>>>go wild, baby.
>>>

>>
>>Got a light?
>>

>
>
> i didn't know of any sexual practices involving fire (with the
> possible exception of smoking afterwards), but sure.
>
> your pal,
> blake


Sacred Flame of Tantric embrace? Literal as well as metaphorical,
"breath the fire."
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> On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 16:23:27 -0400, "cybercat" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"blake murphy" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 14:50:22 -0400, "cybercat" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"blake murphy" > wrote in message
m...
>>>>> On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:25:01 -0700, Joseph Littleshoes
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>In Kilis case she should just add him to her mail filters, the only
>>>>>>reason i don't is every now and then i like to point out his
>>>>>>misanthropy
>>>>>>as being indicative of his own self loathing more than anything else,
>>>>>>certainly more so than any target he might direct his vitriol at.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>No body talks or writes like that without a reason.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Its simply an exhibitionism of his own degree of mental illness, that
>>>>>>he
>>>>>>cant disguise and apparently has stopped even trying to.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>One makes allowances for the good hearted but social inept people,
>>>>>>however the gratuitously violent and abusive are avoided and means to
>>>>>>defend oneself from them are available.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>In the case of the internet bully/coward that is "Sheldon" the single
>>>>>>most effective means to get him to stop bothering an individual is for
>>>>>>that individual to set their mail filters to ignore him for the
>>>>>>insignificant lunatic ravings his posts apparently are.
>>>>>
>>>>> i wouldn't dignify him with 'mental illness.' he's just a
>>>>> garden-variety prick, and not even an entertaining one. who cares
>>>>> why?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>May I kiss you? Just a little one, no tongue. I wouldn't compromise your
>>>>virtue.
>>>>
>>>
>>> go wild, baby.
>>>

>>
>>Got a light?
>>

>
> i didn't know of any sexual practices involving fire (with the
> possible exception of smoking afterwards), but sure.
>
> your pal,
> blake



You missed the answer! It's "come on baby, light my fire."

Dee Dee


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Sheldon wrote:
> "kilikini" wrote:
>> Sheldon wrote:
>>> "kilikini" wrote:
>>>> Sheldon wrote:
>>>>> Today $500/month for a family of five is definitely poverty.
>>>>> Sheldon
>>>> I'd say for the two of us, we spend, maybe $40 a week on food,
>>> That's less than $6 a day. After feeding your cats and that otiose
>>> bozo there ain't but a few pennies a day for you
>>> but then
>>>> again we eat Ramen noodles, frozen peas, chicken leg quarters and
>>>> things like that. When times are tough, you just make do. Speaking
>>>> of making, I think I'll make some more Ramen.
>>> I can see that you think it's all a big joke but keep living like that
>>> and times for you won't be tough much longer. It's very tough to have
>>> empathy for you... you shit canned a lot of folk's heart felt
>>> sympathy... most are simply too cowardly to express themselves
>>> honestly.

>>
>> Sheldon, try having cancer and a husband out of work.

>
>
> Well, DUH... you didn't have a choice with one cancer.
>


I'm a little late here, but...

"Sheldon" you are a 1st class asshole. Perhaps getting your ass kicked
for years in school has somehow made you feel like a man when you're
behind a keyboard but it won't change the fact that your name is *Sheldon*.

**** off.

Really.


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Sheldon wrote:
> "kilikini" wrote:
>>>> Sheldon, try having cancer and a husband out of work.
>>> Well, DUH... you didn't have a choice with one cancer.

>> Sheldon, can you just STFU? I'm not whining, I'm not complaining,

>
> You're not??? That's all you've ever contributed to this newsgroup is
> complaining and whining about your personal life issues. It gets very
> old constantly hearing about how that wart you have never works so you
> have to eat ramen while he stuffs his face with gigantic burgers (just
> look at his mugshot, the wart ain't eating ramen), it ain't humorous
> when you claim you can't afford to eat... that picture is a slap in
> the face to all who've helped you.
>
> Cancer and out of work are two totally separate issues, stop confusing
> the two, that wart doesn't have cancer.
>
> That wart doesn't look crippled to me, he doesn't work because he's a
> lazy good for nothing freeloading parasite, there is no other reason a
> perfectly able bodied individual (I almost called him a man, he's not)
> dosen't get up off his ass and work at SOMETHING.. what, he's too
> proud to dig ditches, that's probably all he's capable of, because
> there is plenty of work everywhere for skilled carpenters... so knock
> off the bullshit always protecting your wart. You are an abused
> enabler, a pathetic one at that.
>
> You're never embarrassed with constantly bringing your financial
> issues to this newsgroup... you never give it a rest... so why are you
> embarrassed when they're discussed. Send me your wart's snake mail
> addy and I''ll mail a tin cup with pencils, do you think you can find
> that slithering slime a street corner.
>
> And if you can sit at a PC 24/7 wtf ain't you working, huh???
>
> Sheldon
>


You might want to quit now.

Really.
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Sheldon wrote:
> On Oct 22, 12:15?pm, "kilikini" > wrote:
>> Sheldon wrote:
>>> "kilikini" wrote:
>>>>>> Sheldon, try having cancer and a husband out of work.
>>>>> Well, DUH... you didn't have a choice with one cancer.
>>>> Sheldon, can you just STFU? I'm not whining, I'm not complaining,
>>> You're not??? That's all you've ever contributed to this newsgroup is
>>> complaining and whining about your personal life issues. It gets very
>>> old constantly hearing about how that wart you have never works so you
>>> have to eat ramen while he stuffs his face with gigantic burgers (just
>>> look at his mugshot, the wart ain't eating ramen), it ain't humorous
>>> when you claim you can't afford to eat... that picture is a slap in
>>> the face to all who've helped you.
>>> Cancer and out of work are two totally separate issues, stop confusing
>>> the two, that wart doesn't have cancer.
>>> That wart doesn't look crippled to me, he doesn't work because he's a
>>> lazy good for nothing freeloading parasite, there is no other reason a
>>> perfectly able bodied individual (I almost called him a man, he's not)
>>> dosen't get up off his ass and work at SOMETHING.. what, he's too
>>> proud to dig ditches, that's probably all he's capable of, because
>>> there is plenty of work everywhere for skilled carpenters... so knock
>>> off the bullshit always protecting your wart. You are an abused
>>> enabler, a pathetic one at that.
>>> You're never embarrassed with constantly bringing your financial
>>> issues to this newsgroup... you never give it a rest... so why are you
>>> embarrassed when they're discussed. Send me your wart's snake mail
>>> addy and I''ll mail a tin cup with pencils, do you think you can find
>>> that slithering slime a street corner.
>>> And if you can sit at a PC 24/7 wtf ain't you working, huh???

>> Because I have about 3 doctor's appts. a week and I don't have a car and I
>> live in a town that has nothing but fast food and not within walking
>> distance. Things aren't always great.

>
> Full of alibis... if you weren't supporting that wart you'd have some
> spare change to jingle. Lots of folks have obligations and need to
> use public transportation yet they still work.
>
> You're still bitching and whining... save these posts for private
> email... from now on whenever I run into your bitch/whine posts I will
> jump all over them. You're pathetic.
>
>




Some people have relatives here. You're ****ing with my cousin.

Sleep with one eye open, asshole.

Really.
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