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Following up to Sacha > wrote:

>> I've done it a few times in chinese and indian restaurants, and seen it
>> done too.

>
>I did say 'Europe'..... ;-) My geography's bad but it's not *that* bad!


LOL, i think you knew what he meant :-)
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Following up to Sacha > wrote:

>And
>> while I'm sure there are some fabulous pizzerias hidden somewhere in
>> Italy, why is it I'll typically enjoy a pizza here (Croma or even Pizza
>> Express!) more?

>
>Perhaps you're more accustomed to their pizza?


ive found pizze in Naples excellent but probably not to the taste of
those who want a whole load of stuff on the thick base.
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Following up to "James Silverton" >
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> a visit to "the
>best restaurant in the world" ( or clip joint), The French
>Laundry in Yountville, CA,


I thought El Bulli is generally regarded as that.
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Following up to "Nancy Young" > wrote:

>> hey, Nancy,, i recognise your name, youre not new to usenet :-)

>
>Hey, Mike. I remember you, nice to see you.


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On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 10:29:15 +0100, Sacha
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>> What on earth gives you that idea?

>
>Because AFAIK, that is the case. Viruses leave antibodies behind them. A
>random tummy bug or infection from decomposing food doesn't. Or does it?


They don't leave antibodies behind them. But I know what you mean.
Antibodies are created by the immune system and stick to various
molecules (sugars, proteins etc) marking them as "dangerous". These
proteins can be on a virus, the a bacteria, a protozoan etc. or just
floating about in the blood(as in some allergies) .

A random tummy bug, isn't /usually/ is an imbalance of the gut flora -
and the poisons produced are absorbed in to the body through the gut.
The bacteria themselves are not, in fact /inside/ the body, and so
would hardly produce a significant immune response.
Bacteria that actually invade the tissues or blood do normally induce
antibodies.
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On 25/10/07 10:53, in article ,
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> Following up to Sacha > wrote:
>
>>> I hear ya. Been there, done that. Usually the food is expensive because
>>> some chef spent 10 minutes running their hands over it, trying to form
>>> a pea and a scallop into a work of art so you don't notice there's no food.
>>> (laugh)
>>>

>> Very silly idea - people aren't stupid and whatever they're accustomed to
>> they want good value - mostly - as well as good food

>
> not always and that's half the story, there's a lot of sensuality in
> eating out, the room is important and small very cheffed stuff can be
> the thing you want. Sometimes I want a robust pie after a days
> walking, sometimes i want a river view, a guitarist and
> candlelight.... <twirls moustache>


But good value and good food can mean small amounts of food, sensibly priced
in a lovely place! I resented the fad for nouvelle cuisine with 3 baby
carrots tied together with a string of leek being served as 'the vegetable
dish of the day' and costing an extra £6 or whatever. Equally, I loathe
plates brimming over with food to such an extent that you really don't know
which angle to approach from! Even if that costs £2.50, it won't impress me
because it's cheap and there's a lot of it.
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"Mike..." > wrote:

> Following up to Sacha > wrote:
>
>>> I've done it a few times in chinese and indian restaurants, and seen it
>>> done too.

>>
>> I did say 'Europe'..... ;-) My geography's bad but it's not *that* bad!

>
> LOL, i think you knew what he meant :-)


No harm in a little levity. ;-)

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On 25/10/07 11:01, in article ,
"Tim C." > wrote:

> On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 10:29:15 +0100, Sacha
> > wrote:
>
>>> What on earth gives you that idea?

>>
>> Because AFAIK, that is the case. Viruses leave antibodies behind them. A
>> random tummy bug or infection from decomposing food doesn't. Or does it?

>
> They don't leave antibodies behind them. But I know what you mean.
> Antibodies are created by the immune system and stick to various
> molecules (sugars, proteins etc) marking them as "dangerous". These
> proteins can be on a virus, the a bacteria, a protozoan etc. or just
> floating about in the blood(as in some allergies) .
>
> A random tummy bug, isn't /usually/ is an imbalance of the gut flora -
> and the poisons produced are absorbed in to the body through the gut.
> The bacteria themselves are not, in fact /inside/ the body, and so
> would hardly produce a significant immune response.
> Bacteria that actually invade the tissues or blood do normally induce
> antibodies.


So, we come back to the idea that mother's milk protects from e.g. mumps,
measles etc. to some extent, at least early in life? But it doesn't protect
from food poisoning which is why food hygiene and babies health have to be
considered in tandem.


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Following up to Sacha > wrote:

> I resented the fad for nouvelle cuisine with 3 baby
>carrots tied together with a string of leek being served as 'the vegetable
>dish of the day' and costing an extra £6 or whatever.


that got very silly! I think its about right now, but then I no longer
have a teenage appetite!
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Tim C. wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 22:44:58 +0100, Sacha
> > wrote:
>
>> But I have never, in many years of
>> travelling the countries of Europe, seen *anyone* walk out of a
>> restaurant with a doggy bag.

>
> Because you haven't seen it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
> but...
> If you take food home here, you don't get a bag. It's normally wrapped
> in metal foil and paper. It's not obvious but it happens and is quite
> normal in Austria and the parts of Germany I've lived in.


I don't take food, but I do always take the bones for the dog. I don't have
any problem though with those that do take food. Each to his/her own I say!



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Oh pshaw, on Thu 25 Oct 2007 04:18:04a, Ophelia meant to say...

> Tim C. wrote:
>> On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 22:44:58 +0100, Sacha
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> But I have never, in many years of
>>> travelling the countries of Europe, seen *anyone* walk out of a
>>> restaurant with a doggy bag.

>>
>> Because you haven't seen it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
>> but...
>> If you take food home here, you don't get a bag. It's normally wrapped
>> in metal foil and paper. It's not obvious but it happens and is quite
>> normal in Austria and the parts of Germany I've lived in.

>
> I don't take food, but I do always take the bones for the dog. I don't
> have any problem though with those that do take food. Each to his/her
> own I say!


How can we be sure that you aren't gnawing on those bones? :-)



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Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> Oh pshaw, on Thu 25 Oct 2007 04:18:04a, Ophelia meant to say...
>
>> Tim C. wrote:
>>> On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 22:44:58 +0100, Sacha
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> But I have never, in many years of
>>>> travelling the countries of Europe, seen *anyone* walk out of a
>>>> restaurant with a doggy bag.
>>>
>>> Because you haven't seen it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
>>> but...
>>> If you take food home here, you don't get a bag. It's normally
>>> wrapped in metal foil and paper. It's not obvious but it happens
>>> and is quite normal in Austria and the parts of Germany I've lived
>>> in.

>>
>> I don't take food, but I do always take the bones for the dog. I
>> don't have any problem though with those that do take food. Each to
>> his/her own I say!

>
> How can we be sure that you aren't gnawing on those bones? :-)


Oi! Have you been spying on me???????????????/




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"Mike..." > wrote

> Following up to "Nancy Young" > wrote:
>
>> From all the bleeping it seems to me Gordon
>>could stand to increase his vocabulary.

>
> hes odd, he has an adequate vocabulary, his background was poor inner
> city and pro football in Glasgow.......
> Maybe its a gimmick now?


The show does seem to follow a pretty strict script. More
than once I've wondered if the people on the show were actors.
He can be funny, but then I find British people tend to be hilarious
anyway.

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Goomba38 wrote:
> do they mention that a LOT of those folks bought way over their heads
> hoping to resell for oodles of profit and then when the housing market
> cooled down they suddenly had house payments over their own budgets? I
> don't have a lot of sympathy for them, although the laws that allow
> these shady mortgage companies to allow this does need to be looked
> at also. As families get smaller, houses get bigger. It gets a big
> ridiculous at times.


That doesn't only happen in US. It is happening here too.


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On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 11:49:29 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>> I don't take food, but I do always take the bones for the dog. I don't
>> have any problem though with those that do take food. Each to his/her
>> own I say!

>
>How can we be sure that you aren't gnawing on those bones? :-)



lol!


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Following up to Sacha > wrote:

>>> No harm in a little levity. ;-)

>>
>> levanti?

>
>Urrrrrrrrrrrr!


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Following up to "Ophelia" > wrote:

>> How can we be sure that you aren't gnawing on those bones? :-)

>
>Oi! Have you been spying on me???????????????/


you did know about the "through the screen" webcams? Weve all got
them, if your going to post dressed like that you should go to control
panel|cameras and scanners|autocam| and tick "off".
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Mike... wrote:
> Following up to "Ophelia" > wrote:
>
>>> How can we be sure that you aren't gnawing on those bones? :-)

>>
>> Oi! Have you been spying on me???????????????/

>
> you did know about the "through the screen" webcams? Weve all got
> them, if your going to post dressed like that you should go to control
> panel|cameras and scanners|autocam| and tick "off".


Ooops


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"Mike..." > wrote in message
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> Following up to "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
>
>>>>Every one of your responses or comments indicates a level of stupidity
>>>>that
>>>>is nothing short of award-winning. Congratulations.
>>>
>>> and what does the comment above say about you?
>>> --
>>> Mike

>>
>>
>>It says I'm a keen observer.

>
> possibly, it also says you are rude.
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Following up to "Ophelia" > wrote:

>> you did know about the "through the screen" webcams? Weve all got
>> them, if your going to post dressed like that you should go to control
>> panel|cameras and scanners|autocam| and tick "off".

>
>Ooops


i havent flicked through the screens for ages..... Guisi-haute
cuture..figures, June........bizz suit for city.....Adrian...blimey,
string vest and can of lager, not a good look Adrian!
.......David.....is that diamonte, David? doesnt look
comfortable....Tim...biker leathers...Sasha.... sensible gardening
wear, makes sense......Alan........ ALAN!!!!!!!!!
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Mike... wrote:
> Following up to "Ophelia" > wrote:
>
>>> you did know about the "through the screen" webcams? Weve all got
>>> them, if your going to post dressed like that you should go to
>>> control panel|cameras and scanners|autocam| and tick "off".

>>
>> Ooops

>
> i havent flicked through the screens for ages..... Guisi-haute
> cuture..figures, June........bizz suit for city.....Adrian...blimey,
> string vest and can of lager, not a good look Adrian!
> ......David.....is that diamonte, David? doesnt look
> comfortable....Tim...biker leathers...Sasha.... sensible gardening
> wear, makes sense......Alan........ ALAN!!!!!!!!!


Ooh and look at you with your ponytail and thong


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On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 14:50:32 +0100, Mike...
> wrote:

>Following up to "Ophelia" > wrote:
>
>>> you did know about the "through the screen" webcams? Weve all got
>>> them, if your going to post dressed like that you should go to control
>>> panel|cameras and scanners|autocam| and tick "off".

>>
>>Ooops

>
>i havent flicked through the screens for ages..... Guisi-haute
>cuture..figures, June........bizz suit for city.....Adrian...blimey,
>string vest and can of lager, not a good look Adrian!
>......David.....is that diamonte, David? doesnt look
>comfortable....Tim...biker leathers...Sasha.... sensible gardening
>wear, makes sense......Alan........ ALAN!!!!!!!!!


lol!
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"Mike..." > wrote in message
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> Following up to "Dee Dee" > wrote:
>
>>i = I
>>konw = know
>>didint = didn't
>>
>>Yes, we 'no' of which you speak.

>
> this is usenet, its considered crass to point out the routine typos
> that nobody cares about
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That's OK, I'm already crass.

I think it is crass to point out that I'm crass LOL.
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"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message >
> How can we be sure that you aren't gnawing on those bones? :-)
>
>
>
> --
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No dental problems, there. :-))

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"Anne Jackson" > wrote

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> these words:
>> Following up to "Nancy Young" > wrote:

>
>> > From all the bleeping it seems to me Gordon
>> >could stand to increase his vocabulary.

>
>> hes odd, he has an adequate vocabulary, his background was poor inner
>> city and pro football in Glasgow.......
>> Maybe its a gimmick now?

>
> It's possibly a Scottish thing? We tend not to wince when someone
> uses a 'questionable' word... Perhaps we're just more broad minded?


I don't wince, it's just a drag after a while when everything if effin this,
effin that. Put the effin butter on the effin chicken and stick in in the
effin oven for 15 effin minutes and effin serve it!

And my Scottish minister grandfather wasn't all that broad minded.
(laugh)

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"Anne Jackson" > wrote in message
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> The message from Mike... > contains
> these words:
>> Following up to "Nancy Young" > wrote:

>
>> > From all the bleeping it seems to me Gordon
>> >could stand to increase his vocabulary.

>
>> hes odd, he has an adequate vocabulary, his background was poor inner
>> city and pro football in Glasgow.......
>> Maybe its a gimmick now?

>
> It's possibly a Scottish thing? We tend not to wince when someone
> uses a 'questionable' word... Perhaps we're just more broad minded?


****ing jocks! I always found the kunts more broadminded until you started
torking about the Jockanese. Then they did not like it up 'em!


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Dee Dee wrote:
> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message >
>> How can we be sure that you aren't gnawing on those bones? :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>
>
>
> No dental problems, there. :-))
>
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"Mike..." > wrote in message
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> Following up to "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
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>>>>Every one of your responses or comments indicates a level of stupidity
>>>>that
>>>>is nothing short of award-winning. Congratulations.
>>>
>>> and what does the comment above say about you?
>>> --
>>> Mike

>>
>>
>>It says I'm a keen observer.

>
> possibly, it also says you are rude.
> --
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Anne Jackson wrote:
> The message from Mike... > contains
> these words:
>> Following up to "Nancy Young" > wrote:

>
>>> From all the bleeping it seems to me Gordon
>>> could stand to increase his vocabulary.

>
>> hes odd, he has an adequate vocabulary, his background was poor inner
>> city and pro football in Glasgow.......
>> Maybe its a gimmick now?

>
> It's possibly a Scottish thing? We tend not to wince when someone
> uses a 'questionable' word... Perhaps we're just more broad minded?


LOL I never heard my working-class Scottish grandparents utter a
"questionable" word, but then they weren't on television The f-word
doesn't offend me but I tend to agree with Nancy, it's way overused (not
just by Gordon Ramsay). I think it's mostly for affect or shock value. The
television censors in the U.S. bleeped it out because the show aired in
prime time, which means children could be watching... as if they've not
already heard the word in the schoolyard!

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Dee Dee wrote:
> "graham" > wrote in message
> news:7RLTi.138617$Da.129743@pd7urf1no...
>>
>> "Dee Dee" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "graham" > wrote in message
>>> news:5vKTi.138489$Da.118753@pd7urf1no...
>>>>
>>>> "Nancy Young" > wrote in message
>>>> . ..
>>>>>
>>>> I caught Gordon Ramsey's Kitchen
>>>>> Nightmares in England a couple of days ago, they certainly served
>>>>> up a large plate of food, too. I'd have taken that steak home.
>>>>> Heh.
>>>>>
>>>> While we're on the subject and cross-posting, I've watched a
>>>> couple of the US version of Kitchen Nightmares with GR. I think
>>>> that it's a pathetically slicked up version without the "bite"
>>>> that the original has. And all that bleeping out - of what are
>>>> people afraid? A few effings can't be as bad as the constant
>>>> stream of violence on N.Am TV these days.
>>>> Graham
>>>
>>> There is nothing more disconcerting or jolting as hearing beeps
>>> instead of the "BAD" words.
>>>
>>> I dont get other country's TV to compare to N.American TV. Do you
>>> subscribe to other country's TV channels to make that comparison?
>>> Or is it just your opinion about N.Am TV. I have my channels
>>> locked out to that type of thing.
>>> Dee Dee

>> The Food Network in Canada relays his British shows unexpurgated.
>> That's how I am able to make the comparison.
>> Graham

> Right, I understand that. I was referring to your remark about the
> constant stream of violence on N.Am TV.
>
> I don't mind his language -- it's Ramsay -- he couldn't communicate
> as well without those expletives. Although I saw him on Larry King
> and he got by just fine without them.
>
> Dee Dee


He certainly doesn't utter those words when he's a guest on The Tonight Show
(a N. American late-night talk show with host Jay Leno). I do think for the
purpose of his own shows it's (alleged) shock value. It's not like you
can't tell what he, or anyone else, is saying! LOL

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"jmcquown" > wrote in message
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> Anne Jackson wrote:
>> The message from Mike... > contains
>> these words:
>>> Following up to "Nancy Young" > wrote:

>>
>>>> From all the bleeping it seems to me Gordon
>>>> could stand to increase his vocabulary.

>>
>>> hes odd, he has an adequate vocabulary, his background was poor inner
>>> city and pro football in Glasgow.......
>>> Maybe its a gimmick now?

>>
>> It's possibly a Scottish thing? We tend not to wince when someone
>> uses a 'questionable' word... Perhaps we're just more broad minded?

>
> LOL I never heard my working-class Scottish grandparents utter a
> "questionable" word, but then they weren't on television The f-word
> doesn't offend me but I tend to agree with Nancy, it's way overused (not
> just by Gordon Ramsay). I think it's mostly for affect or shock value.
> The
> television censors in the U.S. bleeped it out because the show aired in
> prime time, which means children could be watching... as if they've not
> already heard the word in the schoolyard!
>
> Jill
>

I guess now is the time to ask:
Is the f-word the same meaning as the use of "bloody" in England?

I've heard both ways.
Thanks from those who know.
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Sacha wrote:
> On 23/10/07 23:08, in article
> , "Alan Holmes"
> > wrote:
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>>
>> "Kate Connally" > wrote in message
>> ...

> <snip>
>>
>> The reason food is wasted, is that the providers are too stupid to
>> realise that it is not a good idea to offer HUGE portions which are
>> not wanted, if they were to allow teh customer to take however much
>> they wanted, much waste would stop.
>>
>>> Who cares that there are people starving
>>> in parts of the world - including even in parts of the
>>> U.S. and other "first world" countries.

>>
>> Then the people who are giving out huge unwanted portions should be
>> prosecuted!
>>

>
> I must say that I'm still trying to figure out how taking home food
> contaminated by dining companions in USA or UK is going to save
> people from starvation in third world countries.


It wouldn't, Sacha. Doggie bags don't have a direct correlation to helping
feed the hungry. It does, however, speak to those who can afford to eat
wasting perfectly good food simply because their fork had touched it.

Jill


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Nancy wrote on Thu, 25 Oct 2007 10:46:09 -0400:

??>> The message from Mike...
??>> > contains these words:
??>>> Following up to "Nancy Young" >
wrote:
??>>
??>>>> From all the bleeping it seems to me Gordon
??>>>> could stand to increase his vocabulary.
??>>
??>>> hes odd, he has an adequate vocabulary, his background
??>>> was poor inner city and pro football in
??>>> Glasgow....... Maybe its a gimmick now?
??>>
??>> It's possibly a Scottish thing? We tend not to wince when
??>> someone uses a 'questionable' word... Perhaps we're just
??>> more broad minded?

NY> I don't wince, it's just a drag after a while when
NY> everything if effin this, effin that. Put the effin butter
NY> on the effin chicken and stick in in the effin oven for 15
NY> effin minutes and effin serve it!

I first came across the idea that the definite article was "the
fornicating" during summer jobs in the state forests as a
student but listening to that now, especially when bleeped out,
gets old rather quickly and so does Ramsey's program even if he
is a great cook!

James Silverton
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On 25/10/07 13:52, in article ,
"Mike..." > wrote:

> Following up to Sacha > wrote:
>
>>>> No harm in a little levity. ;-)
>>>
>>> levanti?

>>
>> Urrrrrrrrrrrr!

>
> someone explain to poor Mike


levity, levitation, eastern religions, levant. Maybe
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