Mike... wrote:
> Following up to Janet Baraclough > wrote:
>
>> Does anyone here save leftover food *from used dinner plates people
>> have been eating from*, and serve them up to other people at a later
>> meal?
>
> no way, i would give it to pets or throw away.

Of course! No one with even half a brain would consider such a thing. This
started in rec.food.cooking, where people said they take home a doggy bag if
they didn't eat everything.

Putting the half a steak left on their *own* plate is a far cry from
scraping down everyones plate and sticking THAT in a doggy bag

Do let us try to have a wee bit of common sense!!!

On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:29:43 +0100, "Ophelia" > wrote:

>Putting the half a steak left on their *own* plate is a far cry from
>scraping down everyones plate and sticking THAT in a doggy bag

Why?

>Do let us try to have a wee bit of common sense!!!

"Tim C." > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:29:43 +0100, "Ophelia" > wrote:
>
>>Putting the half a steak left on their *own* plate is a far cry from
>>scraping down everyones plate and sticking THAT in a doggy bag
>
> Why?

OK....here we go....

I predict 80 messages in this discussion by midnight tonight.

Tim C. wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:29:43 +0100, "Ophelia" > wrote:
>
>> Putting the half a steak left on their *own* plate is a far cry from
>> scraping down everyones plate and sticking THAT in a doggy bag
>
> Why?

Why not?

What they are saying is that restos in the US serve huge portions. They
take what is left (on their *own* plates home to eat later.

As I said, that is a far cry from having the scraping of everyone's plates

Ophelia wrote:
> Mike... wrote:
>> Following up to Janet Baraclough > wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone here save leftover food *from used dinner plates people
>>> have been eating from*, and serve them up to other people at a later
>>> meal?
>> no way, i would give it to pets or throw away.
>
> Of course! No one with even half a brain would consider such a thing. This
> started in rec.food.cooking, where people said they take home a doggy bag if
> they didn't eat everything.
>
> Putting the half a steak left on their *own* plate is a far cry from
> scraping down everyones plate and sticking THAT in a doggy bag

Quite so. We were discussing taking food from our "own" plates home in
'doggie bags'.
>
> Do let us try to have a wee bit of common sense!!!
>
>
Ahem. I think that crediting Janet Baraclough with a "wee bit of common
sense" might be a bit hard to swallow...

Judging by the post you quoted, if she typed - "Does anyone here save
leftover food *from used dinner plates people
have been eating from*, and serve them up to other people at a later
meal?" - she "twisted it" to suit herself.

She obviously didn't take the time to lurk long enough in
rec.food.cooking before "opening her big mouth" on this subject. If she
had, she would have noticed that r.f.c. posters are mainly made up of
USA/Canadian people with a much lower percentage of posters from other
countries... What she also seems to forget is that what *she* defined as
a "social no-no" in the UK may well be acceptable in other parts of the
world.
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

Garlic: the element without which life as we know it would be impossible

On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:46:15 +0100, "Ophelia" > wrote:

>Tim C. wrote:
>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:29:43 +0100, "Ophelia" > wrote:
>>
>>> Putting the half a steak left on their *own* plate is a far cry from
>>> scraping down everyones plate and sticking THAT in a doggy bag
>>
>> Why?
>
>Why not?
>
>What they are saying is that restos in the US serve huge portions. They
>take what is left (on their *own* plates home to eat later.
>
>As I said, that is a far cry from having the scraping of everyone's plates

I asked why is it a far cry from having the leftovers from other
people's plates? What is it exactly that you disapprove of?

"Tim C." > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:46:15 +0100, "Ophelia" > wrote:
>
>>Tim C. wrote:
>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:29:43 +0100, "Ophelia" > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Putting the half a steak left on their *own* plate is a far cry from
>>>> scraping down everyones plate and sticking THAT in a doggy bag
>>>
>>> Why?
>>
>>Why not?
>>
>>What they are saying is that restos in the US serve huge portions. They
>>take what is left (on their *own* plates home to eat later.
>>
>>As I said, that is a far cry from having the scraping of everyone's plates
>
> I asked why is it a far cry from having the leftovers from other
> people's plates? What is it exactly that you disapprove of?

Digestion begins in the mouth. Not everyone cleans their fork before putting
it back on the plate after each mouth visit. So, food is already decomposing
on the plate due to transfer of saliva. Add germs to the equation, and
things get interesting. Maybe you're resistant to the germs already shared
within your household, but not necessarily to germs from others you're
dining with.

Whether you take these risks or not depends on the reward involved. For me,
someone's leftovers are not enough of a reward.

On 23/10/07 17:00, in article ,
"JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:

> "Tim C." > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:46:15 +0100, "Ophelia" > wrote:
>>
>>> Tim C. wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:29:43 +0100, "Ophelia" > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Putting the half a steak left on their *own* plate is a far cry from
>>>>> scraping down everyones plate and sticking THAT in a doggy bag
>>>>
>>>> Why?
>>>
>>> Why not?
>>>
>>> What they are saying is that restos in the US serve huge portions. They
>>> take what is left (on their *own* plates home to eat later.
>>>
>>> As I said, that is a far cry from having the scraping of everyone's plates
>>
>> I asked why is it a far cry from having the leftovers from other
>> people's plates? What is it exactly that you disapprove of?
>
> Digestion begins in the mouth. Not everyone cleans their fork before putting
> it back on the plate after each mouth visit. So, food is already decomposing
> on the plate due to transfer of saliva.

Precisely so. That's one of the reasons mothers are taught to 'decant' a
baby's food into a small dish if the whole jar is not going to be eaten at
one sitting. Dipping a spoon from the baby's mouth into the jar puts saliva
into the food and starts the decomposition process of the food in the jar.
--
Sacha

Tim C. wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:46:15 +0100, "Ophelia" > wrote:
>
>> Tim C. wrote:
>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:29:43 +0100, "Ophelia" > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Putting the half a steak left on their *own* plate is a far cry
>>>> from scraping down everyones plate and sticking THAT in a doggy
>>>> bag
>>>
>>> Why?
>>
>> Why not?
>>
>> What they are saying is that restos in the US serve huge portions.
>> They take what is left (on their *own* plates home to eat later.
>>
>> As I said, that is a far cry from having the scraping of everyone's
>> plates
>
> I asked why is it a far cry from having the leftovers from other
> people's plates? What is it exactly that you disapprove of?

I am referring to Janet's mail asking if it were ok to serve the scrapings
from others' plates.

The point was that the people who talked about that were in face, taking
food from their own plate to take home. They never have regarded scrapings
from other plates as ok.

Sacha wrote:
> On 23/10/07 17:00, in article ,
> "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
>
>> "Tim C." > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:46:15 +0100, "Ophelia" > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Tim C. wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:29:43 +0100, "Ophelia" > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Putting the half a steak left on their *own* plate is a far cry
>>>>>> from scraping down everyones plate and sticking THAT in a doggy
>>>>>> bag
>>>>>
>>>>> Why?
>>>>
>>>> Why not?
>>>>
>>>> What they are saying is that restos in the US serve huge portions.
>>>> They take what is left (on their *own* plates home to eat later.
>>>>
>>>> As I said, that is a far cry from having the scraping of
>>>> everyone's plates
>>>
>>> I asked why is it a far cry from having the leftovers from other
>>> people's plates? What is it exactly that you disapprove of?
>>
>> Digestion begins in the mouth. Not everyone cleans their fork before
>> putting it back on the plate after each mouth visit. So, food is
>> already decomposing on the plate due to transfer of saliva.
>
> Precisely so. That's one of the reasons mothers are taught to
> 'decant' a baby's food into a small dish if the whole jar is not
> going to be eaten at one sitting. Dipping a spoon from the baby's
> mouth into the jar puts saliva into the food and starts the
> decomposition process of the food in the jar.

But surely Sacha, if you were eating and decided to leave some till later,
you wouldn't think that about your own food on the plate that you had used?

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> Sacha wrote:
>> On 23/10/07 17:00, in article ,
>> "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
>>
>>> "Tim C." > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:46:15 +0100, "Ophelia" > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Tim C. wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:29:43 +0100, "Ophelia" > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Putting the half a steak left on their *own* plate is a far cry
>>>>>>> from scraping down everyones plate and sticking THAT in a doggy
>>>>>>> bag
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why?
>>>>>
>>>>> Why not?
>>>>>
>>>>> What they are saying is that restos in the US serve huge portions.
>>>>> They take what is left (on their *own* plates home to eat later.
>>>>>
>>>>> As I said, that is a far cry from having the scraping of
>>>>> everyone's plates
>>>>
>>>> I asked why is it a far cry from having the leftovers from other
>>>> people's plates? What is it exactly that you disapprove of?
>>>
>>> Digestion begins in the mouth. Not everyone cleans their fork before
>>> putting it back on the plate after each mouth visit. So, food is
>>> already decomposing on the plate due to transfer of saliva.
>>
>> Precisely so. That's one of the reasons mothers are taught to
>> 'decant' a baby's food into a small dish if the whole jar is not
>> going to be eaten at one sitting. Dipping a spoon from the baby's
>> mouth into the jar puts saliva into the food and starts the
>> decomposition process of the food in the jar.
>
> But surely Sacha, if you were eating and decided to leave some till later,
> you wouldn't think that about your own food on the plate that you had
> used?

That's nothing but a quirk - a moment of temporary elective blindness during
which we think the biology of digestion is different because we want it to
be at that moment. We do this because we can't stand the thought of leaving
half the food we paid for.

On 23/10/07 17:36, in article , "Ophelia"
> wrote:

> Sacha wrote:
>> On 23/10/07 17:00, in article ,
>> "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
>>
>>> "Tim C." > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:46:15 +0100, "Ophelia" > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Tim C. wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:29:43 +0100, "Ophelia" > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Putting the half a steak left on their *own* plate is a far cry
>>>>>>> from scraping down everyones plate and sticking THAT in a doggy
>>>>>>> bag
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why?
>>>>>
>>>>> Why not?
>>>>>
>>>>> What they are saying is that restos in the US serve huge portions.
>>>>> They take what is left (on their *own* plates home to eat later.
>>>>>
>>>>> As I said, that is a far cry from having the scraping of
>>>>> everyone's plates
>>>>
>>>> I asked why is it a far cry from having the leftovers from other
>>>> people's plates? What is it exactly that you disapprove of?
>>>
>>> Digestion begins in the mouth. Not everyone cleans their fork before
>>> putting it back on the plate after each mouth visit. So, food is
>>> already decomposing on the plate due to transfer of saliva.
>>
>> Precisely so. That's one of the reasons mothers are taught to
>> 'decant' a baby's food into a small dish if the whole jar is not
>> going to be eaten at one sitting. Dipping a spoon from the baby's
>> mouth into the jar puts saliva into the food and starts the
>> decomposition process of the food in the jar.
>
> But surely Sacha, if you were eating and decided to leave some till later,
> you wouldn't think that about your own food on the plate that you had used?
>
>

Not my own but food others had been eating that contains their saliva.
With babies you have to go that extra step and protect them from
contaminated food, even if it's contaminated with their own saliva.
But the very thought of eating food from someone else's left overs makes me
heave. When my daughter did a student waitress job she said she was
astonished at how many kitchen staff would do that as plates came back to
the kitchen. And in that instance, they didn't even know who'd eaten from
that plate.
--
Sacha

"Ophelia" > wrote

> The point was that the people who talked about that were in face, taking
> food from their own plate to take home. They never have regarded
> scrapings from other plates as ok.

Yes, somehow taking home my own untouched piece of steak
has turned into scraping off plates and serving it to guests.

I don't really understand how other people eat, apparently they
stick their used fork into all the food on their dish. Regardless,
if people have some sort of aversion to taking food home, they
don't have to. It's no big deal.

nancy

Sacha wrote:
>> But surely Sacha, if you were eating and decided to leave some till
>> later, you wouldn't think that about your own food on the plate that
>> you had used?
>>
>>
>
> Not my own but food others had been eating that contains their saliva.

Now that I can understand. But that is not what they were saying you see


> With babies you have to go that extra step and protect them from
> contaminated food, even if it's contaminated with their own saliva.

Agreed!

> But the very thought of eating food from someone else's left overs
> makes me heave. When my daughter did a student waitress job she said
> she was astonished at how many kitchen staff would do that as plates
> came back to the kitchen. And in that instance, they didn't even
> know who'd eaten from that plate.

That is plain disgusting(

Ophelia wrote:
> Sacha wrote:
>> On 23/10/07 17:00, in article ,
>> "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
>>
>>> "Tim C." > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:46:15 +0100, "Ophelia" > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Tim C. wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:29:43 +0100, "Ophelia" > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Putting the half a steak left on their *own* plate is a far cry
>>>>>>> from scraping down everyones plate and sticking THAT in a doggy
>>>>>>> bag
>>>>>> Why?
>>>>> Why not?
>>>>>
>>>>> What they are saying is that restos in the US serve huge portions.
>>>>> They take what is left (on their *own* plates home to eat later.
>>>>>
>>>>> As I said, that is a far cry from having the scraping of
>>>>> everyone's plates
>>>> I asked why is it a far cry from having the leftovers from other
>>>> people's plates? What is it exactly that you disapprove of?
>>> Digestion begins in the mouth. Not everyone cleans their fork before
>>> putting it back on the plate after each mouth visit. So, food is
>>> already decomposing on the plate due to transfer of saliva.
>> Precisely so. That's one of the reasons mothers are taught to
>> 'decant' a baby's food into a small dish if the whole jar is not
>> going to be eaten at one sitting. Dipping a spoon from the baby's
>> mouth into the jar puts saliva into the food and starts the
>> decomposition process of the food in the jar.
>
> But surely Sacha, if you were eating and decided to leave some till later,
> you wouldn't think that about your own food on the plate that you had used?
>
>
Well, I wouldn't worry about "leaving some of my own food" till later,
BTDT and am still alive....

Baby's are another story altogether - at least for the first 6 to 8
months... They haven't had time to build up their immune systems, so one
has to be careful about "germs". But anyone on a food group that
actually buys ready-made baby food that comes in a jar needs to have
their heads read... Have you ever tasted that stuff? - Blech! No wonder
both my children refused to eat it and had no problems with home-made
baby food.... What's wrong with "mushing up" whatever Mom and Dad are
eating and feeding them that? It can also be frozen, then defrosted and
"warmed up" when necessary....
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

Garlic: the element without which life as we know it would be impossible

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

> "Tim C." > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:46:15 +0100, "Ophelia" > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Tim C. wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:29:43 +0100, "Ophelia" > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Putting the half a steak left on their *own* plate is a far cry from
>>>>>scraping down everyones plate and sticking THAT in a doggy bag
>>>>
>>>>Why?
>>>
>>>Why not?
>>>
>>>What they are saying is that restos in the US serve huge portions. They
>>>take what is left (on their *own* plates home to eat later.
>>>
>>>As I said, that is a far cry from having the scraping of everyone's plates
>>
>>I asked why is it a far cry from having the leftovers from other
>>people's plates? What is it exactly that you disapprove of?
>
>
> Digestion begins in the mouth. Not everyone cleans their fork before putting
> it back on the plate after each mouth visit.

Does anyone? Sheesh! You've got to be kidding. Do you
actually "clean" your fork after each bite? That is, do you
wash it with soap and water after each bite? Or did you mean
just wipe it with your napkin after each bite? Equally
ridiculous.

> So, food is already decomposing
> on the plate due to transfer of saliva.

That is ridiculous. Unless a person drools a lot while
eating (and probably not even then), there would not be
enough saliva on the fork or spoon to "contaminate" the
food on the plate with the next bite, which might not in
many cases even touch the other food.

> Add germs to the equation,

I don't know about you, but I don't have germs. ;-)

What do you think about French kissing then?
I guess you'd be against it. What with all those
germs and the other persons saliva digesting your
tongue, etc.

> and things get interesting. Maybe you're resistant
> to the germs already shared within your household,
> but not necessarily to germs from others you're
> dining with.
>
> Whether you take these risks or not depends on the
> reward involved. For me, someone's leftovers are
> not enough of a reward.

Well, no one's making you do it. Go ahead and waste
all that food. Who cares that there are people starving
in parts of the world - including even in parts of the
U.S. and other "first world" countries.

Kate

--
Kate Connally
“If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.”
What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?

Sacha wrote:

> On 23/10/07 17:00, in article ,
> "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
>
>
>>"Tim C." > wrote in message
. ..
>>
>>>On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:46:15 +0100, "Ophelia" > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Tim C. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:29:43 +0100, "Ophelia" > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Putting the half a steak left on their *own* plate is a far cry from
>>>>>>scraping down everyones plate and sticking THAT in a doggy bag
>>>>>
>>>>>Why?
>>>>
>>>>Why not?
>>>>
>>>>What they are saying is that restos in the US serve huge portions. They
>>>>take what is left (on their *own* plates home to eat later.
>>>>
>>>>As I said, that is a far cry from having the scraping of everyone's plates
>>>
>>>I asked why is it a far cry from having the leftovers from other
>>>people's plates? What is it exactly that you disapprove of?
>>
>>Digestion begins in the mouth. Not everyone cleans their fork before putting
>>it back on the plate after each mouth visit. So, food is already decomposing
>>on the plate due to transfer of saliva.
>
>
> Precisely so. That's one of the reasons mothers are taught to 'decant' a
> baby's food into a small dish if the whole jar is not going to be eaten at
> one sitting. Dipping a spoon from the baby's mouth into the jar puts saliva
> into the food and starts the decomposition process of the food in the jar.

I have seen plenty of people over the years *not* do that and
the babies were healthy and the parents did not go back to the
half-eaten jar of baby food the next day to find it "digested"
in the jar. Sheesh!

Kate

--
Kate Connally
“If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.”
What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?

Kate Connally wrote:
you, but I don't have germs. ;-)
>
> What do you think about French kissing then?
> I guess you'd be against it. What with all those
> germs and the other persons saliva digesting your
> tongue, etc.
>

LOL what a dirty girl you are))

>> and things get interesting. Maybe you're resistant
>> to the germs already shared within your household,
>> but not necessarily to germs from others you're
>> dining with.
>>
>> Whether you take these risks or not depends on the
>> reward involved. For me, someone's leftovers are
>> not enough of a reward.
>
> Well, no one's making you do it. Go ahead and waste
> all that food. Who cares that there are people starving
> in parts of the world - including even in parts of the
> U.S. and other "first world" countries.
>
> Kate

Stupid thing to waste your time talking about such things....There are a
LOT OF IMPORTANT THINGS TO BE DISCUSSED and in doing so MAYBE JUST
MAYBE.....HELP SOMEONE !

"Kate Connally" > wrote in message
...
> Sacha wrote:
>
>> On 23/10/07 17:00, in article ,
>> "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Tim C." > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>>On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:46:15 +0100, "Ophelia" > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Tim C. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:29:43 +0100, "Ophelia" > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Putting the half a steak left on their *own* plate is a far cry from
>>>>>>>scraping down everyones plate and sticking THAT in a doggy bag
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Why?
>>>>>
>>>>>Why not?
>>>>>
>>>>>What they are saying is that restos in the US serve huge portions.
>>>>>They
>>>>>take what is left (on their *own* plates home to eat later.
>>>>>
>>>>>As I said, that is a far cry from having the scraping of everyone's
>>>>>plates
>>>>
>>>>I asked why is it a far cry from having the leftovers from other
>>>>people's plates? What is it exactly that you disapprove of?
>>>
>>>Digestion begins in the mouth. Not everyone cleans their fork before
>>>putting
>>>it back on the plate after each mouth visit. So, food is already
>>>decomposing
>>>on the plate due to transfer of saliva.
>>
>>
>> Precisely so. That's one of the reasons mothers are taught to 'decant' a
>> baby's food into a small dish if the whole jar is not going to be eaten
>> at
>> one sitting. Dipping a spoon from the baby's mouth into the jar puts
>> saliva
>> into the food and starts the decomposition process of the food in the
>> jar.
>
> I have seen plenty of people over the years *not* do that and
> the babies were healthy and the parents did not go back to the
> half-eaten jar of baby food the next day to find it "digested"
> in the jar. Sheesh!
>
> Kate

There are reasons they didn't have a problem, but none of those reasons
change the fact that adding saliva to a jar of food will speed up
decomposition, more so if it's a starchy food.

"Kate Connally" > wrote in message
...
> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>
>> "Tim C." > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>>On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:46:15 +0100, "Ophelia" > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Tim C. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:29:43 +0100, "Ophelia" > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Putting the half a steak left on their *own* plate is a far cry from
>>>>>>scraping down everyones plate and sticking THAT in a doggy bag
>>>>>
>>>>>Why?
>>>>
>>>>Why not?
>>>>
>>>>What they are saying is that restos in the US serve huge portions. They
>>>>take what is left (on their *own* plates home to eat later.
>>>>
>>>>As I said, that is a far cry from having the scraping of everyone's
>>>>plates
>>>
>>>I asked why is it a far cry from having the leftovers from other
>>>people's plates? What is it exactly that you disapprove of?
>>
>>
>> Digestion begins in the mouth. Not everyone cleans their fork before
>> putting it back on the plate after each mouth visit.
>
> Does anyone? Sheesh! You've got to be kidding. Do you
> actually "clean" your fork after each bite? That is, do you
> wash it with soap and water after each bite? Or did you mean
> just wipe it with your napkin after each bite? Equally
> ridiculous.
>
>> So, food is already decomposing on the plate due to transfer of saliva.
>
> That is ridiculous. Unless a person drools a lot while
> eating (and probably not even then), there would not be
> enough saliva on the fork or spoon to "contaminate" the
> food on the plate with the next bite, which might not in
> many cases even touch the other food.
>
>> Add germs to the equation,
>
> I don't know about you, but I don't have germs. ;-)
>
> What do you think about French kissing then?
> I guess you'd be against it. What with all those
> germs and the other persons saliva digesting your
> tongue, etc.
>
>> and things get interesting. Maybe you're resistant to the germs already
>> shared within your household,
> > but not necessarily to germs from others you're
>> dining with.
>>
>> Whether you take these risks or not depends on the reward involved. For
>> me, someone's leftovers are
> > not enough of a reward.
>
> Well, no one's making you do it. Go ahead and waste
> all that food. Who cares that there are people starving
> in parts of the world - including even in parts of the
> U.S. and other "first world" countries.
>
> Kate


Every one of your responses or comments indicates a level of stupidity that
is nothing short of award-winning. Congratulations.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:00:53 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>
>> Digestion begins in the mouth. Not everyone cleans their fork before
>> putting
>> it back on the plate after each mouth visit. So, food is already
>> decomposing
>> on the plate due to transfer of saliva. Add germs to the equation, and
>> things get interesting. Maybe you're resistant to the germs already
>> shared
>> within your household, but not necessarily to germs from others you're
>> dining with.
>
> You must hate having to share a joint or bowl with somebody else.
>
> -sw

I *did* mention that one must balance risk with reward. You didn't see that,
or you are pretending not to have seen that. Read slower.

Carmen wrote:
> Stupid thing to waste your time talking about such things....There are a
> LOT OF IMPORTANT THINGS TO BE DISCUSSED


Yup. Like watching TV....

>and in doing so MAYBE JUST
> MAYBE.....HELP SOMEONE !
>

If you say so...
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

Garlic: the element without which life as we know it would be impossible

Janet Baraclough wrote:
> The message >
> from "Ophelia" > contains these words:
>
>> Mike... wrote:
>>> Following up to Janet Baraclough >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Does anyone here save leftover food *from used dinner plates
>>>> people have been eating from*, and serve them up to other people
>>>> at a later meal?
>>>
>>> no way, i would give it to pets or throw away.
>
>> Of course! No one with even half a brain would consider such a
>> thing.
>
> Several posters in rec.cooking. say they do.
>
> This
>> started in rec.food.cooking, where people said they take home a doggy
>> bag if
>> they didn't eat everything.
>
>> Putting the half a steak left on their *own* plate is a far cry from
>> scraping down everyones plate and sticking THAT in a doggy bag
>
>> Do let us try to have a wee bit of common sense!!!
>
> You clearly didn't follow much of the thread in rec cooking,
> Ophelia.
>
> First, they discussed what they would put in a doggybag; some would
> cut off surplus food and bag it, before they started to eat. Others,
> wait until they finish eating, and bag what's left on their own plate.
> At least one person, admitted bagging food left on stranger's plates
> on other tables. ** see below.
>
> Many said they would feed the doggybag food they take home from
> restaurants, to other family members.
>
> The discussion then widened when several said that they save food
> leftovers *from used dinner plates on the table at home*, and re-serve
> it to other members of the family at later .
>
> See above. I asked readers here, if they would do that at home. Not
> in restaurants, nothing to do with doggybags; at home.

You are leaving out a lot of things but I will leave it there

Ophelia wrote:
> Janet Baraclough wrote:
>> The message >
>> from "Ophelia" > contains these words:
>>
>>> Mike... wrote:
>>>> Following up to Janet Baraclough >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone here save leftover food *from used dinner plates
>>>>> people have been eating from*, and serve them up to other people
>>>>> at a later meal?
>>>> no way, i would give it to pets or throw away.
>>> Of course! No one with even half a brain would consider such a
>>> thing.
>> Several posters in rec.cooking. say they do.
>>
>> This
>>> started in rec.food.cooking, where people said they take home a doggy
>>> bag if
>>> they didn't eat everything.
>>> Putting the half a steak left on their *own* plate is a far cry from
>>> scraping down everyones plate and sticking THAT in a doggy bag
>>> Do let us try to have a wee bit of common sense!!!
>> You clearly didn't follow much of the thread in rec cooking,
>> Ophelia.
>>
>> First, they discussed what they would put in a doggybag; some would
>> cut off surplus food and bag it, before they started to eat. Others,
>> wait until they finish eating, and bag what's left on their own plate.
>> At least one person, admitted bagging food left on stranger's plates
>> on other tables. ** see below.
>>
>> Many said they would feed the doggybag food they take home from
>> restaurants, to other family members.
>>
>> The discussion then widened when several said that they save food
>> leftovers *from used dinner plates on the table at home*, and re-serve
>> it to other members of the family at later .
>>
>> See above. I asked readers here, if they would do that at home. Not
>> in restaurants, nothing to do with doggybags; at home.
>
> You are leaving out a lot of things but I will leave it there
>
>
You may leave it there, O. Not I. She left out the part where she butted
in where she had no right to butt in (i.e. she responded to one of my
posts - with incorrect attribution to "who said what", I might add) and
started "stirring" - then she expected this denizen of r.f.c. to bow
down to her "superior knowledge" in the subsequent posts. Yeah right.

And if there is any doubt: I (me/myself and I) think that Janet
Baraclough is a total twit. Of course that's Just My Humble Opinion (JMHO).
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy - who won't be joining the JB fan club any time soon...

Garlic: the element without which life as we know it would be impossible

Carmen wrote:
> Stupid thing to waste your time talking about such things....There are a
> LOT OF IMPORTANT THINGS TO BE DISCUSSED and in doing so MAYBE JUST
> MAYBE.....HELP SOMEONE !
>
Why are you bothering with Usenet in general and a cooking group in
particular if you don't like the topic of discussion?

"ChattyCathy" > wrote in message
...
> And if there is any doubt: I (me/myself and I) think that Janet Baraclough
> is a total twit. Of course that's Just My Humble Opinion (JMHO).
> --
> Cheers
> Chatty Cathy - who won't be joining the JB fan club any time soon...


And I certainly respect your opinion.
Dee Dee

On 23/10/07 17:57, in article , "Kate
Connally" > wrote:

> Sacha wrote:
>
>> On 23/10/07 17:00, in article ,
>> "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
>>
>>
>>> "Tim C." > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:46:15 +0100, "Ophelia" > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Tim C. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:29:43 +0100, "Ophelia" > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Putting the half a steak left on their *own* plate is a far cry from
>>>>>>> scraping down everyones plate and sticking THAT in a doggy bag
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why?
>>>>>
>>>>> Why not?
>>>>>
>>>>> What they are saying is that restos in the US serve huge portions. They
>>>>> take what is left (on their *own* plates home to eat later.
>>>>>
>>>>> As I said, that is a far cry from having the scraping of everyone's plates
>>>>
>>>> I asked why is it a far cry from having the leftovers from other
>>>> people's plates? What is it exactly that you disapprove of?
>>>
>>> Digestion begins in the mouth. Not everyone cleans their fork before putting
>>> it back on the plate after each mouth visit. So, food is already decomposing
>>> on the plate due to transfer of saliva.
>>
>>
>> Precisely so. That's one of the reasons mothers are taught to 'decant' a
>> baby's food into a small dish if the whole jar is not going to be eaten at
>> one sitting. Dipping a spoon from the baby's mouth into the jar puts saliva
>> into the food and starts the decomposition process of the food in the jar.
>
> I have seen plenty of people over the years *not* do that and
> the babies were healthy and the parents did not go back to the
> half-eaten jar of baby food the next day to find it "digested"
> in the jar. Sheesh!
>
> Kate

Well, there you are. Just shows that standards differ all over the world.

--
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http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

"Tim C." > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:29:43 +0100, "Ophelia" > wrote:
>
>>Putting the half a steak left on their *own* plate is a far cry from
>>scraping down everyones plate and sticking THAT in a doggy bag
>
> Why?

Because you don't know where it has been!

If they have some health problem, which could be passed to someone else,
then it is absolutely stupid to give that to someone else, but it rather
looks as though you do not have a brain!

"Tim C." > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:46:15 +0100, "Ophelia" > wrote:
>
>>Tim C. wrote:
>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:29:43 +0100, "Ophelia" > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Putting the half a steak left on their *own* plate is a far cry from
>>>> scraping down everyones plate and sticking THAT in a doggy bag
>>>
>>> Why?
>>
>>Why not?
>>
>>What they are saying is that restos in the US serve huge portions. They
>>take what is left (on their *own* plates home to eat later.
>>
>>As I said, that is a far cry from having the scraping of everyone's plates
>
> I asked why is it a far cry from having the leftovers from other
> people's plates? What is it exactly that you disapprove of?

See my other post!

"Kate Connally" > wrote in message
...
> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>
>> "Tim C." > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>>On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:46:15 +0100, "Ophelia" > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Tim C. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:29:43 +0100, "Ophelia" > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Putting the half a steak left on their *own* plate is a far cry from
>>>>>>scraping down everyones plate and sticking THAT in a doggy bag
>>>>>
>>>>>Why?
>>>>
>>>>Why not?
>>>>
>>>>What they are saying is that restos in the US serve huge portions. They
>>>>take what is left (on their *own* plates home to eat later.
>>>>
>>>>As I said, that is a far cry from having the scraping of everyone's
>>>>plates
>>>
>>>I asked why is it a far cry from having the leftovers from other
>>>people's plates? What is it exactly that you disapprove of?
>>
>>
>> Digestion begins in the mouth. Not everyone cleans their fork before
>> putting it back on the plate after each mouth visit.
>
> Does anyone? Sheesh! You've got to be kidding. Do you
> actually "clean" your fork after each bite? That is, do you
> wash it with soap and water after each bite? Or did you mean
> just wipe it with your napkin after each bite? Equally
> ridiculous.
>
>> So, food is already decomposing on the plate due to transfer of saliva.
>
> That is ridiculous. Unless a person drools a lot while
> eating (and probably not even then), there would not be
> enough saliva on the fork or spoon to "contaminate" the
> food on the plate with the next bite, which might not in
> many cases even touch the other food.
>
>> Add germs to the equation,
>
> I don't know about you, but I don't have germs. ;-)

You must be unique, I'm sure although I try to keep clean I must carry some
germs about.

> What do you think about French kissing then?
> I guess you'd be against it. What with all those
> germs and the other persons saliva digesting your
> tongue, etc.

Not terribly keen, but if that is what truned the aldy on, then I'd give it
a go!(:-)

>> and things get interesting. Maybe you're resistant to the germs already
>> shared within your household,
> > but not necessarily to germs from others you're
>> dining with.
>>
>> Whether you take these risks or not depends on the reward involved. For
>> me, someone's leftovers are
> > not enough of a reward.
>
> Well, no one's making you do it. Go ahead and waste
> all that food.

The reason food is wasted, is that the providers are too stupid to realise
that it is not a good idea to offer HUGE portions which are not wanted, if
they were to allow teh customer to take however much they wanted, much waste
would stop.

Who cares that there are people starving
> in parts of the world - including even in parts of the
> U.S. and other "first world" countries.

Then the people who are giving out huge unwanted portions should be
prosecuted!

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:00:53 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>
>> Digestion begins in the mouth. Not everyone cleans their fork before
>> putting
>> it back on the plate after each mouth visit. So, food is already
>> decomposing
>> on the plate due to transfer of saliva. Add germs to the equation, and
>> things get interesting. Maybe you're resistant to the germs already
>> shared
>> within your household, but not necessarily to germs from others you're
>> dining with.
>
> You must hate having to share a joint or bowl with somebody else.

There are people who I would willingly share food with, there are also
people I would get close to, never mind sharing food with!

>
> -sw

"Carmen" > wrote in message
...
> Stupid thing to waste your time talking about such things....There are a
> LOT OF IMPORTANT THINGS TO BE DISCUSSED and in doing so MAYBE JUST
> MAYBE.....HELP SOMEONE !

So why bother to read this subject, no one is forcing you to!

Just delete it from your server.

>

On 23/10/07 23:08, in article ,
"Alan Holmes" > wrote:

>
> "Kate Connally" > wrote in message
> ...
<snip>
>
> The reason food is wasted, is that the providers are too stupid to realise
> that it is not a good idea to offer HUGE portions which are not wanted, if
> they were to allow teh customer to take however much they wanted, much waste
> would stop.
>
>> Who cares that there are people starving
>> in parts of the world - including even in parts of the
>> U.S. and other "first world" countries.
>
> Then the people who are giving out huge unwanted portions should be
> prosecuted!
>

I must say that I'm still trying to figure out how taking home food
contaminated by dining companions in USA or UK is going to save people from
starvation in third world countries.
Perhaps a re-distribution of transportable food stuffs would do that, or a
bigger contribution of money from wealthy countries to poorer ones? I just
can't see that the use of doggy bags by countries that serve oversized
portions of food is going to help the starving in e.g. Zimbabwe.
--
Sacha

"ChattyCathy" > wrote in message
...
> Ophelia wrote:
>> Janet Baraclough wrote:
>>> The message >
>>> from "Ophelia" > contains these words:
>>>
>>>> Mike... wrote:
>>>>> Following up to Janet Baraclough >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Does anyone here save leftover food *from used dinner plates
>>>>>> people have been eating from*, and serve them up to other people
>>>>>> at a later meal?
>>>>> no way, i would give it to pets or throw away.
>>>> Of course! No one with even half a brain would consider such a
>>>> thing.
>>> Several posters in rec.cooking. say they do.
>>>
>>> This
>>>> started in rec.food.cooking, where people said they take home a doggy
>>>> bag if
>>>> they didn't eat everything.
>>>> Putting the half a steak left on their *own* plate is a far cry from
>>>> scraping down everyones plate and sticking THAT in a doggy bag
>>>> Do let us try to have a wee bit of common sense!!!
>>> You clearly didn't follow much of the thread in rec cooking,
>>> Ophelia.
>>>
>>> First, they discussed what they would put in a doggybag; some would
>>> cut off surplus food and bag it, before they started to eat. Others,
>>> wait until they finish eating, and bag what's left on their own plate.
>>> At least one person, admitted bagging food left on stranger's plates
>>> on other tables. ** see below.
>>>
>>> Many said they would feed the doggybag food they take home from
>>> restaurants, to other family members.
>>>
>>> The discussion then widened when several said that they save food
>>> leftovers *from used dinner plates on the table at home*, and re-serve
>>> it to other members of the family at later .
>>>
>>> See above. I asked readers here, if they would do that at home. Not
>>> in restaurants, nothing to do with doggybags; at home.
>>
>> You are leaving out a lot of things but I will leave it there
> You may leave it there, O. Not I. She left out the part where she butted
> in where she had no right to butt in (i.e. she responded to one of my
> posts - with incorrect attribution to "who said what", I might add) and
> started "stirring" - then she expected this denizen of r.f.c. to bow down
> to her "superior knowledge" in the subsequent posts. Yeah right.
>
> And if there is any doubt: I (me/myself and I) think that Janet Baraclough
> is a total twit. Of course that's Just My Humble Opinion (JMHO).
> --
> Cheers
> Chatty Cathy - who won't be joining the JB fan club any time soon...

Good!

>
> Garlic: the element without which life as we know it would be impossible

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> Tim C. wrote:
>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:46:15 +0100, "Ophelia" > wrote:
>>
>>> Tim C. wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:29:43 +0100, "Ophelia" > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Putting the half a steak left on their *own* plate is a far cry
>>>>> from scraping down everyones plate and sticking THAT in a doggy
>>>>> bag
>>>>
>>>> Why?
>>>
>>> Why not?
>>>
>>> What they are saying is that restos in the US serve huge portions.
>>> They take what is left (on their *own* plates home to eat later.
>>>
>>> As I said, that is a far cry from having the scraping of everyone's
>>> plates
>>
>> I asked why is it a far cry from having the leftovers from other
>> people's plates? What is it exactly that you disapprove of?
>
> I am referring to Janet's mail asking if it were ok to serve the scrapings
> from others' plates.
>
> The point was that the people who talked about that were in face, taking
> food from their own plate to take home. They never have regarded
> scrapings from other plates as ok.

I have never known anyone to do that.

When we lived in NYC, some of the Italian places (but not all), served HUGE
portions of pasta. What we learned to do was ask for a container at the
start of the meal. We would then take some of the food from our plates and
put it in the container before we started eating. The container might
contain more than one kind of pasta and on occasion, some meat. We would
take this home for my husband to eat after he came home from work on the
nights he was working late and couldn't join us. The food wasn't
contaminated in any way because nobody had eaten from the plate yet.

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
. ..
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote
>
>> The point was that the people who talked about that were in face, taking
>> food from their own plate to take home. They never have regarded
>> scrapings from other plates as ok.
>
> Yes, somehow taking home my own untouched piece of steak
> has turned into scraping off plates and serving it to guests.
>
> I don't really understand how other people eat, apparently they
> stick their used fork into all the food on their dish. Regardless,
> if people have some sort of aversion to taking food home, they
> don't have to. It's no big deal.

One reason I dislike taking food home is that I usually don't go straight
home after eating. These days when we do take food home, we usually plan to
do it. For instance, my daughter likes the chicken at one restaurant. You
can get an order with one piece or two. One is all she can eat for dinner.
But she likes to take the other piece to school the next day in her lunch,
along with some rice. So when we dine at this place, we plan to either go
straight home, or stop by the house before going elsewhere so we can put it
in the fridge. Luckily the restaurant is close to home.

"Alan Holmes" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Kate Connally" > wrote in message
> ...
>> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>
>>> "Tim C." > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>>>On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:46:15 +0100, "Ophelia" > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Tim C. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:29:43 +0100, "Ophelia" > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Putting the half a steak left on their *own* plate is a far cry from
>>>>>>>scraping down everyones plate and sticking THAT in a doggy bag
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Why?
>>>>>
>>>>>Why not?
>>>>>
>>>>>What they are saying is that restos in the US serve huge portions.
>>>>>They
>>>>>take what is left (on their *own* plates home to eat later.
>>>>>
>>>>>As I said, that is a far cry from having the scraping of everyone's
>>>>>plates
>>>>
>>>>I asked why is it a far cry from having the leftovers from other
>>>>people's plates? What is it exactly that you disapprove of?
>>>
>>>
>>> Digestion begins in the mouth. Not everyone cleans their fork before
>>> putting it back on the plate after each mouth visit.
>>
>> Does anyone? Sheesh! You've got to be kidding. Do you
>> actually "clean" your fork after each bite? That is, do you
>> wash it with soap and water after each bite? Or did you mean
>> just wipe it with your napkin after each bite? Equally
>> ridiculous.
>>
>>> So, food is already decomposing on the plate due to transfer of saliva.
>>
>> That is ridiculous. Unless a person drools a lot while
>> eating (and probably not even then), there would not be
>> enough saliva on the fork or spoon to "contaminate" the
>> food on the plate with the next bite, which might not in
>> many cases even touch the other food.
>>
>>> Add germs to the equation,
>>
>> I don't know about you, but I don't have germs. ;-)
>
> You must be unique, I'm sure although I try to keep clean I must carry
> some germs about.
>
>> What do you think about French kissing then?
>> I guess you'd be against it. What with all those
>> germs and the other persons saliva digesting your
>> tongue, etc.
>
> Not terribly keen, but if that is what truned the aldy on, then I'd give
> it a go!(:-)
>
>>> and things get interesting. Maybe you're resistant to the germs already
>>> shared within your household,
>> > but not necessarily to germs from others you're
>>> dining with.
>>>
>>> Whether you take these risks or not depends on the reward involved. For
>>> me, someone's leftovers are
>> > not enough of a reward.
>>
>> Well, no one's making you do it. Go ahead and waste
>> all that food.
>
> The reason food is wasted, is that the providers are too stupid to realise
> that it is not a good idea to offer HUGE portions which are not wanted, if
> they were to allow teh customer to take however much they wanted, much
> waste would stop.
>
> Who cares that there are people starving
>> in parts of the world - including even in parts of the
>> U.S. and other "first world" countries.
>
> Then the people who are giving out huge unwanted portions should be
> prosecuted!

In this area, more and more restaurants are offering light or "lite"
portions to people other than kids and seniors. I've also noticed more and
more places offering side dishes. I think it's good that we have options.
For me, a huge platter of food places before me is off-putting. But my
husband loves big platters of food and so does my dad.

"Sacha" > wrote in message
. uk...

> I must say that I'm still trying to figure out how taking home food
> contaminated by dining companions in USA or UK is going to save people
> from
> starvation in third world countries.
> Perhaps a re-distribution of transportable food stuffs would do that, or a
> bigger contribution of money from wealthy countries to poorer ones? I
> just
> can't see that the use of doggy bags by countries that serve oversized
> portions of food is going to help the starving in e.g. Zimbabwe.

When I was in 6th grade, our school got a large shipment of stewed prunes in
the cafeteria. They found a way to serve them to us every day. I really
hated stewed prunes. I tried to throw my little dish of prunes away, but I
was caught doing so by the teacher from the next classroom who chastised me
and told me about the starving children in some other country. I forget now
which country she used for an example. I then told her get me an envelope
and I would mail them my prunes. That didn't go over so well. Heh!

Julie Bove wrote:

> When I was in 6th grade, our school got a large shipment of stewed prunes in
> the cafeteria. They found a way to serve them to us every day. I really
> hated stewed prunes. I tried to throw my little dish of prunes away, but I
> was caught doing so by the teacher from the next classroom who chastised me
> and told me about the starving children in some other country. I forget now
> which country she used for an example. I then told her get me an envelope
> and I would mail them my prunes. That didn't go over so well. Heh!

She was probably talking about Prunei.


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