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George said...
> Unfortunately the same can be said for many/most? USAians. Piggybacking... I've seen this USAian nick recently for the USA population. Is this generally accepted and how long has it been in existence? Did I miss an r.f.c survey?!? ![]() Andy USAlien? |
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![]() "Andy" <q> wrote > I've seen this USAian nick recently for the USA population. Is this > generally > accepted and how long has it been in existence? Too long. nancy |
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On Oct 23, 11:19 am, Andy <q> wrote:
> George said... > > > Unfortunately the same can be said for many/most? USAians. > > Piggybacking... > > I've seen this USAian nick recently for the USA population. Is this generally > accepted and how long has it been in existence? > This usage has been around for quite a few years, but only by small groups of people who mostly assert that the more common usage, "american," ought to apply to the western hemisphere. Sometimes it's a thinly veiled way to bitch about American obnoxiousness, occasionally it's folks who just can't get from geographical names to how people actually communicate. It's a solution in search of a problem, for the most part. -aem |
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Andy wrote:
> George said... > >> Unfortunately the same can be said for many/most? USAians. > > > Piggybacking... > > I've seen this USAian nick recently for the USA population. Is this generally > accepted and how long has it been in existence? I far more frequently see "USan". It's at least a few years old. -- Blinky RLU 297263 Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project - http://improve-usenet.org |
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Michael "Dog3" said...
> "Nancy Young" > dropped this > : in rec.food.cooking > >> >> "Andy" <q> wrote >> >>> I've seen this USAian nick recently for the USA population. Is this >>> generally >>> accepted and how long has it been in existence? >> >> Too long. >> >> nancy > > Bleh... My Asian friends don't like it either. In our circles they are > seen as Amercians that are of Asian descent. > > Michael Michael, I first for awhile read it wrong as USAsians in the beginning. Are you making this same mistake? Andy |
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Andy wrote:
> Michael "Dog3" said... > >> "Nancy Young" > dropped this >> : in rec.food.cooking >> >>> >>> "Andy" <q> wrote >>> >>>> I've seen this USAian nick recently for the USA population. Is this >>>> generally >>>> accepted and how long has it been in existence? >>> >>> Too long. >>> >>> nancy >> >> Bleh... My Asian friends don't like it either. In our circles they are >> seen as Amercians that are of Asian descent. >> >> Michael > > > Michael, > > I first for awhile read it wrong as USAsians in the beginning. Are you > making this same mistake? > > Andy Thanks. I couldn't make any sense out of his post. -- Blinky RLU 297263 Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project - http://improve-usenet.org |
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Andy wrote:
> George said... > >> Unfortunately the same can be said for many/most? USAians. > > > Piggybacking... > > I've seen this USAian nick recently for the USA population. Is this > generally accepted and how long has it been in existence? Frequently used by those who look down their noses at America and Americans. -- Dave www.davebbq.com |
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On Oct 23, 2:49?pm, "Dave Bugg" > wrote:
> Andy wrote: > > George said... > > >> Unfortunately the same can be said for many/most? USAians. > > > Piggybacking... > > > I've seen this USAian nick recently for the USA population. Is this > > generally accepted and how long has it been in existence? > > Frequently used by those who look down their noses at America and Americans. > > -- > Davewww.davebbq.com That is a good way to put it, I have seen it used semi frequently over the last few years. I do not use it, I am an American , and proud to be one. Rosie |
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On Oct 23, 1:49 pm, "Dave Bugg" > wrote:
> Andy wrote: > > George said... > > >> Unfortunately the same can be said for many/most? USAians. > > > Piggybacking... > > > I've seen this USAian nick recently for the USA population. Is this > > generally accepted and how long has it been in existence? > > Frequently used by those who look down their noses at > America and Americans. It's really stupid because it's awkward and difficult to pronounce. > > -- > Davewww.davebbq.com --Bryan |
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Dave Bugg > wrote:
> Andy wrote: > > > > I've seen this USAian nick recently for the USA population. Is this > > generally accepted and how long has it been in existence? > Frequently used by those who look down their noses at America and Americans. I remember back in about 7th or 8th grade my Social Studies teacher explaining in all seriousness that "Americans" should properly refer to people from all of the Americas, and not just the USA, and that for us to call ourselves Americans was a terrible insult to Canadians and Mexicans and the like. When I grew up and actually travelled to other countries I discovered that my old Social Studies teacher was a twit. Everyone I met outside the USA called us Americans (if they were being polite) and never even considered that it might somehow encompass Canadians and others. So, I blame this whole USAian foolishness on overly fussy middle school teachers who probably meant well in a proto-PC kind of way. Bill Ranck Blacksburg, Va. |
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One time on Usenet, Andy <q> said:
> George said... > > > Unfortunately the same can be said for many/most? USAians. > > > Piggybacking... > > I've seen this USAian nick recently for the USA population. Is this generally > accepted and how long has it been in existence? > > Did I miss an r.f.c survey?!? ![]() > > Andy > USAlien? I've seen it many times on Usenet, and I find it offensive. I've even used it myself in the past, but I got tired of it. I'm an American, damnit... -- Jani in WA |
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![]() "Andy" <q> schrieb im Newsbeitrag ... > George said... > >> Unfortunately the same can be said for many/most? USAians. > > > Piggybacking... > > I've seen this USAian nick recently for the USA population. Is this generally > accepted and how long has it been in existence? > > Did I miss an r.f.c survey?!? ![]() > > Andy > USAlien? I use USAns when referring to those inhabitants of America who live in the USA. Ah, well, or Merkins (L.B.Johnson). Just like I say "Swiss" when referring to those people in Europe who live in Switzerland, etc. Cheers, Michael Kuettner |
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Bobo Bonobo® wrote
> It's really stupid because it's awkward and difficult to pronounce. LOL, not bad as a rule of thumb -- Vilco Think pink, drink rose' |
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Dave Bugg wrote:
> Andy wrote: >> George said... >> >>> Unfortunately the same can be said for many/most? USAians. >> >> >> Piggybacking... >> >> I've seen this USAian nick recently for the USA population. Is this >> generally accepted and how long has it been in existence? > > Frequently used by those who look down their noses at America and > Americans. In the groups I frequent it's a convenitne shortening primarily used of *and* by we USans when we're discussing things where pondian differences make it necessary to identify context, as in "We USans don't use 'aluminium'", where it's no more pejorative (even when used by non-USans) than "Brit" (which is to say it's *not* pejorative). -- Blinky RLU 297263 Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project - http://improve-usenet.org |
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l, not -l wrote:
> > On 23-Oct-2007, Andy <q> wrote: > >> Piggybacking... >> >> I've seen this USAian nick recently for the USA population. Is this >> generally >> accepted and how long has it been in existence? > > I think it started with someone who misunderstood a southerner -- us'ens > > ASAian looks like typo for Asians. I prefer to stick with the What's "ASAian" got to do with anything? Nobody's used it here. You just injected it. > tried-and-true - Americans. But I won't accept ole Lyndon Johnson's > pronunciation - A-merkin - a merkin is a pubic wig. -- Blinky RLU 297263 Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project - http://improve-usenet.org |
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Michael Kuettner wrote:
> "Andy" <q> schrieb im Newsbeitrag > ... >> George said... >> >>> Unfortunately the same can be said for many/most? USAians. >> >> >> Piggybacking... >> >> I've seen this USAian nick recently for the USA population. Is this >> generally accepted and how long has it been in existence? >> >> Did I miss an r.f.c survey?!? ![]() >> >> Andy >> USAlien? > > I use USAns when referring to those inhabitants of America who live > in the USA. Except for the niggling little fact that inhabitants of America are the same as those who live in the United States. Americans are inhabitants of North America who live in the United States. > Just like I say "Swiss" when referring to those people in Europe who > live in Switzerland, etc. A bit of a non-sequitor, there. Switzerland is the proper name of a country within the European continent, just as America is a proper name for a country within the North American continent. -- Dave www.davebbq.com |
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![]() "Dave Bugg" > wrote > Michael Kuettner wrote: >> I use USAns when referring to those inhabitants of America who live >> in the USA. > > Except for the niggling little fact that inhabitants of America are the > same as those who live in the United States. Americans are inhabitants of > North America who live in the United States. Just try telling Canadians they're Americans. They won't appreciate it. That the continent is North America, not America, seems lost on some people. nancy |
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Blinky the Shark wrote:
> Dave Bugg wrote: >> Andy wrote: >>> George said... >>> >>>> Unfortunately the same can be said for many/most? USAians. >>> >>> >>> Piggybacking... >>> >>> I've seen this USAian nick recently for the USA population. Is this >>> generally accepted and how long has it been in existence? >> >> Frequently used by those who look down their noses at America and >> Americans. > > In the groups I frequent it's a convenitne shortening primarily used > of *and* by we USans when we're discussing things where pondian > differences make it necessary to identify context, as in "We USans > don't use 'aluminium'", where it's no more pejorative (even when used > by non-USans) than "Brit" (which is to say it's *not* pejorative). I disagree. There are Americans who equally look down their noses at America, and proceed to do and say what they can to demonstrate their disdain. Or they are suck-ups who want to get along with what they percieve to be the world's dislike of America and hope that parroting such use as USAians will make them 'likeable' by the 'in-crowd'. -- Dave www.davebbq.com |
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![]() "Dave Bugg" > schrieb im Newsbeitrag ... > Michael Kuettner wrote: >> "Andy" <q> schrieb im Newsbeitrag >> ... >>> George said... >>> >>>> Unfortunately the same can be said for many/most? USAians. >>> >>> >>> Piggybacking... >>> >>> I've seen this USAian nick recently for the USA population. Is this >>> generally accepted and how long has it been in existence? >>> >>> Did I miss an r.f.c survey?!? ![]() >>> >>> Andy >>> USAlien? >> >> I use USAns when referring to those inhabitants of America who live >> in the USA. > > Except for the niggling little fact that inhabitants of America are the same > as those who live in the United States. Americans are inhabitants of North > America who live in the United States. > The Canadians will surely like your point of view. The Mexicans, too, I guess. >> Just like I say "Swiss" when referring to those people in Europe who >> live in Switzerland, etc. > > A bit of a non-sequitor, there. Switzerland is the proper name of a country > within the European continent, just as America is a proper name for a country > within the North American continent. > Non sequitur, boy. You know what that means ? No ? Thought so. Now tell me why your country is called "The United States Of America" instead of "America" ? Well ? Cheers, Michael Kuettner |
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![]() "Michael Kuettner" > wrote > "Dave Bugg" > schrieb im Newsbeitrag > ... >> A bit of a non-sequitor, there. Switzerland is the proper name of a >> country within the European continent, just as America is a proper name >> for a country within the North American continent. >> > Non sequitur, boy. You know what that means ? > No ? Thought so. > Now tell me why your country is called "The United States Of America" > instead of "America" ? > Well ? Why do people say Mexico not United States of Mexico? nancy |
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Michael Kuettner wrote:
> "Dave Bugg" > schrieb im Newsbeitrag > ... >> Michael Kuettner wrote: >>> "Andy" <q> schrieb im Newsbeitrag >>> ... >>>> George said... >>>> >>>>> Unfortunately the same can be said for many/most? USAians. >>>> >>>> >>>> Piggybacking... >>>> >>>> I've seen this USAian nick recently for the USA population. Is this >>>> generally accepted and how long has it been in existence? >>>> >>>> Did I miss an r.f.c survey?!? ![]() >>>> >>>> Andy >>>> USAlien? >>> >>> I use USAns when referring to those inhabitants of America who live >>> in the USA. >> >> Except for the niggling little fact that inhabitants of America are >> the same as those who live in the United States. Americans are >> inhabitants of North America who live in the United States. >> > The Canadians will surely like your point of view. > The Mexicans, too, I guess. > >>> Just like I say "Swiss" when referring to those people in Europe who >>> live in Switzerland, etc. >> >> A bit of a non-sequitor, there. Switzerland is the proper name of a >> country within the European continent, just as America is a proper >> name for a country within the North American continent. >> > Non sequitur, boy. > You know what that means ? Yes I do, son. And it was most appropriate given the fact that your example had nothing to do with anything, at best, and was incorrectly used at worst. So, was it ignorance or a red herring on your part? > No ? Thought so. Again, you simply went to ground on that one. > Now tell me why your country is called "The United States Of America" > instead of "America" ? America is the geographical boundry of the country within which exist individual states. In fact, the original colonies were referred to collectively as 'America' in our earliest history. > Well ? Well, indeed. -- Dave www.davebbq.com |
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Dave Bugg wrote:
> Blinky the Shark wrote: >> Dave Bugg wrote: >>> Andy wrote: >>>> George said... >>>> >>>>> Unfortunately the same can be said for many/most? USAians. >>>> >>>> >>>> Piggybacking... >>>> >>>> I've seen this USAian nick recently for the USA population. Is this >>>> generally accepted and how long has it been in existence? >>> >>> Frequently used by those who look down their noses at America and >>> Americans. >> >> In the groups I frequent it's a convenitne shortening primarily used >> of *and* by we USans when we're discussing things where pondian >> differences make it necessary to identify context, as in "We USans >> don't use 'aluminium'", where it's no more pejorative (even when used >> by non-USans) than "Brit" (which is to say it's *not* pejorative). > > I disagree. There are Americans who equally look down their noses at > America, and proceed to do and say what they can to demonstrate their > disdain. Or they are suck-ups who want to get along with what they percieve > to be the world's dislike of America and hope that parroting such use as > USAians will make them 'likeable' by the 'in-crowd'. We probably just travel in different circles. I don't hang out in groups that are full of wannabe politicians and such, who exist only to argue. And I pretty much ignore that kind of action in the groups where some of it does exist. I use it the same way I use other shortenings. For convenience, where formality isn't necessary. -- Blinky RLU 297263 Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project - http://improve-usenet.org |
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![]() "Dave Bugg" > schrieb im Newsbeitrag ... > Michael Kuettner wrote: >> "Dave Bugg" > schrieb im Newsbeitrag >> ... >>> Michael Kuettner wrote: >>>> "Andy" <q> schrieb im Newsbeitrag >>>> ... >>>>> George said... >>>>> >>>>>> Unfortunately the same can be said for many/most? USAians. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Piggybacking... >>>>> >>>>> I've seen this USAian nick recently for the USA population. Is this >>>>> generally accepted and how long has it been in existence? >>>>> >>>>> Did I miss an r.f.c survey?!? ![]() >>>>> >>>>> Andy >>>>> USAlien? >>>> >>>> I use USAns when referring to those inhabitants of America who live >>>> in the USA. >>> >>> Except for the niggling little fact that inhabitants of America are >>> the same as those who live in the United States. Americans are >>> inhabitants of North America who live in the United States. >>> >> The Canadians will surely like your point of view. >> The Mexicans, too, I guess. >> >>>> Just like I say "Swiss" when referring to those people in Europe who >>>> live in Switzerland, etc. >>> >>> A bit of a non-sequitor, there. Switzerland is the proper name of a >>> country within the European continent, just as America is a proper >>> name for a country within the North American continent. >>> >> Non sequitur, boy. >> You know what that means ? > > Yes I do, son. Ah, but you can't even spell it, boy ? > And it was most appropriate given the fact that your example had nothing to do > with anything, at best, and was incorrectly used at worst. So, was it > ignorance or a red herring on your part? America, like Europe, is a term for a continent, boy. The USA is part of America as Switzerland is part of Europe. Oh, wait ! The stars & stripes are blocking your view. > >> No ? Thought so. > > Again, you simply went to ground on that one. > Because _you_ say so ? Oh, those corn-fed Merkins ... >> Now tell me why your country is called "The United States Of America" >> instead of "America" ? > > America is the geographical boundry of the country within which exist > individual states. In fact, the original colonies were referred to > collectively as 'America' in our earliest history. > America is a continent. Period. The USA is a state in America. >> Well ? > > Well, indeed. > Mhmmm... |
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Michael Kuettner wrote:
> > "Dave Bugg" > schrieb im Newsbeitrag > ... >> Michael Kuettner wrote: >>> "Andy" <q> schrieb im Newsbeitrag >>> ... >>>> George said... >>>> >>>>> Unfortunately the same can be said for many/most? USAians. >>>> >>>> >>>> Piggybacking... >>>> >>>> I've seen this USAian nick recently for the USA population. Is this >>>> generally accepted and how long has it been in existence? >>>> >>>> Did I miss an r.f.c survey?!? ![]() >>>> >>>> Andy >>>> USAlien? >>> >>> I use USAns when referring to those inhabitants of America who live >>> in the USA. >> >> Except for the niggling little fact that inhabitants of America are the same >> as those who live in the United States. Americans are inhabitants of North >> America who live in the United States. >> > The Canadians will surely like your point of view. > The Mexicans, too, I guess. I rarely hear this complaint from anyone from either place. Mostly it's something the PC Squad comes up with, even when the affected people don't give a hoot. -- Blinky RLU 297263 Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project - http://improve-usenet.org |
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![]() "Nancy Young" > schrieb im Newsbeitrag . .. > > "Michael Kuettner" > wrote > >> "Dave Bugg" > schrieb im Newsbeitrag >> ... > >>> A bit of a non-sequitor, there. Switzerland is the proper name of a country >>> within the European continent, just as America is a proper name for a >>> country within the North American continent. >>> >> Non sequitur, boy. You know what that means ? >> No ? Thought so. >> Now tell me why your country is called "The United States Of America" >> instead of "America" ? >> Well ? > > Why do people say Mexico not United States of Mexico? > Because Mexico didn't name itself so ? Why is Canada not "The United States of Canada" ? Cheers, Michael Kuettner |
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![]() "Blinky the Shark" > schrieb im Newsbeitrag ... > Michael Kuettner wrote: >> >> "Dave Bugg" > schrieb im Newsbeitrag >> ... >>> Michael Kuettner wrote: >>>> "Andy" <q> schrieb im Newsbeitrag >>>> ... >>>>> George said... >>>>> >>>>>> Unfortunately the same can be said for many/most? USAians. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Piggybacking... >>>>> >>>>> I've seen this USAian nick recently for the USA population. Is this >>>>> generally accepted and how long has it been in existence? >>>>> >>>>> Did I miss an r.f.c survey?!? ![]() >>>>> >>>>> Andy >>>>> USAlien? >>>> >>>> I use USAns when referring to those inhabitants of America who live >>>> in the USA. >>> >>> Except for the niggling little fact that inhabitants of America are the same >>> as those who live in the United States. Americans are inhabitants of North >>> America who live in the United States. >>> >> The Canadians will surely like your point of view. >> The Mexicans, too, I guess. > > I rarely hear this complaint from anyone from either place. Mostly it's > something the PC Squad comes up with, even when the affected people > don't give a hoot. > It isn't a complaint. When talking about American cuisines, it simply helps to know whether one is talking about Canadian, USAn or Mexican food. I left out South-and Middle-America,here. It's the same with Europe. Greek cuisine differs from Italian cuisine, and so on. Cheers, Michael Kuettner |
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![]() "Michael Kuettner" > wrote > "Nancy Young" > schrieb im Newsbeitrag >> >> Why do people say Mexico not United States of Mexico? >> > Because Mexico didn't name itself so ? You're right, they named it so in Spanish. nancy |
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Michael Kuettner wrote:
> "Dave Bugg" > schrieb im Newsbeitrag > ... >> Michael Kuettner wrote: >>> "Dave Bugg" > schrieb im Newsbeitrag >>> ... >>>> Michael Kuettner wrote: >>>>> "Andy" <q> schrieb im Newsbeitrag >>>>> ... >>>>>> George said... >>>>>> >>>>>>> Unfortunately the same can be said for many/most? USAians. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Piggybacking... >>>>>> >>>>>> I've seen this USAian nick recently for the USA population. Is >>>>>> this generally accepted and how long has it been in existence? >>>>>> >>>>>> Did I miss an r.f.c survey?!? ![]() >>>>>> >>>>>> Andy >>>>>> USAlien? >>>>> >>>>> I use USAns when referring to those inhabitants of America who >>>>> live in the USA. >>>> >>>> Except for the niggling little fact that inhabitants of America are >>>> the same as those who live in the United States. Americans are >>>> inhabitants of North America who live in the United States. >>>> >>> The Canadians will surely like your point of view. >>> The Mexicans, too, I guess. >>> >>>>> Just like I say "Swiss" when referring to those people in Europe >>>>> who live in Switzerland, etc. >>>> >>>> A bit of a non-sequitor, there. Switzerland is the proper name of a >>>> country within the European continent, just as America is a proper >>>> name for a country within the North American continent. >>>> >>> Non sequitur, boy. >>> You know what that means ? >> >> Yes I do, son. > > Ah, but you can't even spell it, boy ? I didn't know this was a spelling bee. I guess you win. > >> And it was most appropriate given the fact that your example had >> nothing to do with anything, at best, and was incorrectly used at >> worst. So, was it ignorance or a red herring on your part? > America, like Europe, is a term for a continent, boy. Remedial 4th grade geography is taught at night school. North America is a continent, not America. America is part of the North American continent. And what is the 'boy' stuff? You must be a racist. > The USA is part of America as Switzerland is part of Europe. Nope, America is part of North America as Switerland is part of Europe. But thanks for playing. > Oh, wait ! The stars & stripes are blocking your view. Thanks for proving my point about who uses invented words for America and American, and why. >>> No ? Thought so. >> >> Again, you simply went to ground on that one. > Because _you_ say so ? Oh, those corn-fed Merkins ... No, because your lack of knowledge and logic said so. And thanks again for proving my points about those who disdain Americans. >>> Now tell me why your country is called "The United States Of >>> America" instead of "America" ? >> >> America is the geographical boundry of the country within which exist >> individual states. In fact, the original colonies were referred to >> collectively as 'America' in our earliest history. > America is a continent. Period. > The USA is a state in America. America is a country within North America, Michigan is a state within America. Now, school's dismissed. >>> Well ? >> Well, indeed. > Mhmmm... A bit constipated, wot. -- Dave www.davebbq.com |
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Michael Kuettner wrote:
> > "Blinky the Shark" > schrieb im Newsbeitrag > ... >> Michael Kuettner wrote: >>> >>> "Dave Bugg" > schrieb im Newsbeitrag >>> ... >>>> Michael Kuettner wrote: >>>>> "Andy" <q> schrieb im Newsbeitrag >>>>> ... >>>>>> George said... >>>>>> >>>>>>> Unfortunately the same can be said for many/most? USAians. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Piggybacking... >>>>>> >>>>>> I've seen this USAian nick recently for the USA population. Is >>>>>> this generally accepted and how long has it been in existence? >>>>>> >>>>>> Did I miss an r.f.c survey?!? ![]() >>>>>> >>>>>> Andy USAlien? >>>>> >>>>> I use USAns when referring to those inhabitants of America who >>>>> live in the USA. >>>> >>>> Except for the niggling little fact that inhabitants of America are >>>> the same as those who live in the United States. Americans are >>>> inhabitants of North America who live in the United States. >>>> >>> The Canadians will surely like your point of view. The Mexicans, >>> too, I guess. >> >> I rarely hear this complaint from anyone from either place. Mostly >> it's something the PC Squad comes up with, even when the affected >> people don't give a hoot. >> > It isn't a complaint. When talking about American cuisines, it simply > helps to know whether one is talking about Canadian, USAn or Mexican > food. I left out South-and Middle-America,here. I have no problem with specificity where it's needed. As I said, I use "USan" myself. I just can't get behind bucking hundreds of years of the use of "American" to mean "of the United States of America", in general. -- Blinky RLU 297263 Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project - http://improve-usenet.org |
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One time on Usenet, "Michael Kuettner" > said:
> > "Dave Bugg" > schrieb im Newsbeitrag > ... > > Michael Kuettner wrote: > >> "Dave Bugg" > schrieb im Newsbeitrag > >> ... > >>> Michael Kuettner wrote: > >>>> "Andy" <q> schrieb im Newsbeitrag > >>>> ... > >>>>> George said... > >>>>> > >>>>>> Unfortunately the same can be said for many/most? USAians. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Piggybacking... > >>>>> > >>>>> I've seen this USAian nick recently for the USA population. Is this > >>>>> generally accepted and how long has it been in existence? > >>>>> > >>>>> Did I miss an r.f.c survey?!? ![]() > >>>>> > >>>>> Andy > >>>>> USAlien? > >>>> > >>>> I use USAns when referring to those inhabitants of America who live > >>>> in the USA. > >>> > >>> Except for the niggling little fact that inhabitants of America are > >>> the same as those who live in the United States. Americans are > >>> inhabitants of North America who live in the United States. > >>> > >> The Canadians will surely like your point of view. > >> The Mexicans, too, I guess. > >> > >>>> Just like I say "Swiss" when referring to those people in Europe who > >>>> live in Switzerland, etc. > >>> > >>> A bit of a non-sequitor, there. Switzerland is the proper name of a > >>> country within the European continent, just as America is a proper > >>> name for a country within the North American continent. > >>> > >> Non sequitur, boy. > >> You know what that means ? > > > > Yes I do, son. > > Ah, but you can't even spell it, boy ? Spelling flames? Sheesh. <snip> > >> Now tell me why your country is called "The United States Of America" > >> instead of "America" ? > > > > America is the geographical boundry of the country within which exist > > individual states. In fact, the original colonies were referred to > > collectively as 'America' in our earliest history. > > > America is a continent. Period. > The USA is a state in America. No, the name of the continent is North America. America is a country therein, as are Canada and Mexico. You apparently need a remedial course in geography... -- Jani in WA |
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Blinky the Shark wrote:
> Michael Kuettner wrote: >> >> "Blinky the Shark" > schrieb im Newsbeitrag >> ... >>> Michael Kuettner wrote: >>>> >>>> "Dave Bugg" > schrieb im Newsbeitrag >>>> ... >>>>> Michael Kuettner wrote: >>>>>> "Andy" <q> schrieb im Newsbeitrag >>>>>> ... >>>>>>> George said... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Unfortunately the same can be said for many/most? USAians. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Piggybacking... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've seen this USAian nick recently for the USA population. Is >>>>>>> this generally accepted and how long has it been in existence? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Did I miss an r.f.c survey?!? ![]() >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Andy USAlien? >>>>>> >>>>>> I use USAns when referring to those inhabitants of America who >>>>>> live in the USA. >>>>> >>>>> Except for the niggling little fact that inhabitants of America >>>>> are the same as those who live in the United States. Americans are >>>>> inhabitants of North America who live in the United States. >>>>> >>>> The Canadians will surely like your point of view. The Mexicans, >>>> too, I guess. >>> >>> I rarely hear this complaint from anyone from either place. Mostly >>> it's something the PC Squad comes up with, even when the affected >>> people don't give a hoot. >>> >> It isn't a complaint. When talking about American cuisines, it >> simply helps to know whether one is talking about Canadian, USAn or >> Mexican food. I left out South-and Middle-America,here. > > I have no problem with specificity where it's needed. As I said, I > use "USan" myself. > > I just can't get behind bucking hundreds of years of the use of > "American" to mean "of the United States of America", in general. Yup. Besides, that's a straw man issue, anyway. Folks use 'Mexican' or 'Canadian' to refer to those countries and their cuisine. When folks use 'American' to talk about cuisine, they're not talkin' 'bout Venezuela. Not unless they're just wanting to be a petulant horses pa-toot. -- Dave www.davebbq.com |
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This is not a term that has entered the language in any significant
way. Even ignoring the politics, it's a grating word formation being formed of an acronym and then a suffix. It is also a problem that you drop the first letter it becomes a slight anagram of "Asian". It's pretty much unnecessary as there is seldom any confusion as to whether "American" refers to American nationality or the American continents, and if one needs to be more precise there's always "United States Citizen". Steve |
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Steve Pope wrote:
> This is not a term that has entered the language in any significant > way. Even ignoring the politics, it's a grating word formation being > formed of an acronym and then a suffix. It is also a problem that you > drop the first letter it becomes a slight anagram of "Asian". Since you chose my post to reply to and then snipped everything I said, I'll respond anyway. I never even heard "USAia" before this thread. I'd only heard (and used) "USan". No confusion with "ANYTHINGasian". And as for "it is also a problem that if you drop the first letter", well, if you drop the first letter of "trout" you have "rout", but you can't run from every word that becomes another one if typoed in a certain way. > It's pretty much unnecessary as there is seldom any confusion as to > whether "American" refers to American nationality or the American > continents, and if one needs to be more precise there's always "United > States Citizen". It's shorthand. Shorthand is useful. As an example, you used "it's" and "there's", each of which save only one keystroke over "it is" and "there is". Shorthand isn't going away, nor should it. -- Blinky RLU 297263 Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project - http://improve-usenet.org |
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Blinky the Shark wrote:
> Steve Pope wrote: >> This is not a term that has entered the language in any significant >> way. Even ignoring the politics, it's a grating word formation being >> formed of an acronym and then a suffix. It is also a problem that you >> drop the first letter it becomes a slight anagram of "Asian". > > Since you chose my post to reply to and then snipped everything I said, > I'll respond anyway. > > I never even heard "USAia" before this thread. I'd only heard (and Correct: "USAia" to "USAian" Typo. > used) "USan". No confusion with "ANYTHINGasian". And as for "it is > also a problem that if you drop the first letter", well, if you drop the > first letter of "trout" you have "rout", but you can't run from every > word that becomes another one if typoed in a certain way. > >> It's pretty much unnecessary as there is seldom any confusion as to >> whether "American" refers to American nationality or the American >> continents, and if one needs to be more precise there's always "United >> States Citizen". > > It's shorthand. Shorthand is useful. As an example, you used "it's" > and "there's", each of which save only one keystroke over "it is" and > "there is". Shorthand isn't going away, nor should it. -- Blinky RLU 297263 Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project - http://improve-usenet.org |
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Blinky the Shark > wrote:
>Steve Pope wrote: >> This is not a term that has entered the language in any significant >> way. Even ignoring the politics, it's a grating word formation being >> formed of an acronym and then a suffix. It is also a problem that you >> drop the first letter it becomes a slight anagram of "Asian". >Since you chose my post to reply to and then snipped everything I said, >I'll respond anyway. Sorry, I should have clipped the "references" line, since I was just adding to the thread, not replying to a particular post. >I never even heard "USAia" before this thread. I'd only heard (and >used) "USan". No confusion with "ANYTHINGasian". Cool. I've never heard "USan" until you have just now mentioned it. >> It's pretty much unnecessary as there is seldom any confusion as to >> whether "American" refers to American nationality or the American >> continents, and if one needs to be more precise there's always "United >> States Citizen". >It's shorthand. Shorthand is useful. As an example, you used "it's" >and "there's", each of which save only one keystroke over "it is" and >"there is". Shorthand isn't going away, nor should it. It is not proper to use non-words just because they comprise "shorthand". You can do it, but it's not part of the English language. Steve |
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Steve Pope wrote:
> Blinky the Shark > wrote: > >>Steve Pope wrote: > >>> This is not a term that has entered the language in any significant >>> way. Even ignoring the politics, it's a grating word formation being >>> formed of an acronym and then a suffix. It is also a problem that you >>> drop the first letter it becomes a slight anagram of "Asian". > >>Since you chose my post to reply to and then snipped everything I said, >>I'll respond anyway. > > Sorry, I should have clipped the "references" line, since I was > just adding to the thread, not replying to a particular post. > >>I never even heard "USAia" before this thread. I'd only heard (and >>used) "USan". No confusion with "ANYTHINGasian". > > Cool. I've never heard "USan" until you have just now mentioned it. > >>> It's pretty much unnecessary as there is seldom any confusion as to >>> whether "American" refers to American nationality or the American >>> continents, and if one needs to be more precise there's always "United >>> States Citizen". > >>It's shorthand. Shorthand is useful. As an example, you used "it's" >>and "there's", each of which save only one keystroke over "it is" and >>"there is". Shorthand isn't going away, nor should it. > > It is not proper to use non-words just because they comprise > "shorthand". You can do it, but it's not part of the English > language. So you object to "USA" and "EU" too, I guess. They're probably in the dictionary by now and I doubt that they're marked "substandard". -- Blinky RLU 297263 Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project - http://improve-usenet.org |
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Blinky the Shark > wrote:
>Steve Pope wrote: >> It is not proper to use non-words just because they comprise >> "shorthand". You can do it, but it's not part of the English >> language. >So you object to "USA" and "EU" too, I guess. You guess wrong. Steve |
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Steve Pope wrote:
> Blinky the Shark > wrote: > >>Steve Pope wrote: > >>> It is not proper to use non-words just because they comprise >>> "shorthand". You can do it, but it's not part of the English >>> language. > >>So you object to "USA" and "EU" too, I guess. > > You guess wrong. I was only going by your reasoning. How about the "made up" (to you, not to me) words radar and sonar?[1] How about the audio shorthand "amp" and "mic"? [1] *True* acronyms, since they're pronounced as words, not pronounced as letters as are the initialisms "eff bee eye" and "cee eye ay". -- Blinky RLU 297263 Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project - http://improve-usenet.org |
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l, not -l wrote:
> On 23-Oct-2007, Andy <q> wrote: > >> Piggybacking... >> >> I've seen this USAian nick recently for the USA population. Is this >> generally >> accepted and how long has it been in existence? > > I think it started with someone who misunderstood a southerner -- us'ens I've never ever once heard a southerner say "us'ens" Now I have heard folks in PA say "You-ens"... it sounded odd to my ears. Y'all sounds just fine to me. |
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