Everytime I make Alfredo sauce it comes out lumpy. Can anyone tell me
why and help me avoid this?

> wrote in message
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> Everytime I make Alfredo sauce it comes out lumpy. Can anyone tell me
> why and help me avoid this?

Your alfredo is lumpy because you make it out of garbage.

For 4 people,
Melt 6 oz. butter. Add 6 oz. parmigiano reggiano and mix until the cheese
is wet. Add 1/4 cup of cream and stir the mixture to get a paste. Heat at
low temperature until the mixture is a smooth sauce. Mix with 1 pound of
fresh fettuccini (or equivalent measure of dried pasta) cooked according to
directions. I prefer fresh angel hair for the fine texture and one minute
cooking time.

You can learn to adjust the measurements according to your taste. The sauce
should taste like parmesan. The butter and cream are to give the cheese the
correct sauce consistency. Not enough cream and the sauce be too thick (or
solid) when it cools.

Mitch

"Mitch Scherer" > wrote in message
...
> > wrote in message
> ups.com...
>> Everytime I make Alfredo sauce it comes out lumpy. Can anyone tell me
>> why and help me avoid this?
>
> Your alfredo is lumpy because you make it out of garbage.
>
> For 4 people,
> Melt 6 oz. butter. Add 6 oz. parmigiano reggiano and mix until the cheese
> is wet. Add 1/4 cup of cream and stir the mixture to get a paste. Heat
> at low temperature until the mixture is a smooth sauce. Mix with 1 pound
> of fresh fettuccini (or equivalent measure of dried pasta) cooked
> according to directions. I prefer fresh angel hair for the fine texture
> and one minute cooking time.
>
> You can learn to adjust the measurements according to your taste. The
> sauce should taste like parmesan. The butter and cream are to give the
> cheese the correct sauce consistency. Not enough cream and the sauce be
> too thick (or solid) when it cools.

That sounds utterly disgusting.

cybercat wrote:
> "Mitch Scherer" > wrote in message
> ...
>> > wrote in message
>> ups.com...
>>> Everytime I make Alfredo sauce it comes out lumpy. Can anyone tell me
>>> why and help me avoid this?
>> Your alfredo is lumpy because you make it out of garbage.
>>
>> For 4 people,
>> Melt 6 oz. butter. Add 6 oz. parmigiano reggiano and mix until the cheese
>> is wet. Add 1/4 cup of cream and stir the mixture to get a paste. Heat
>> at low temperature until the mixture is a smooth sauce. Mix with 1 pound
>> of fresh fettuccini (or equivalent measure of dried pasta) cooked
>> according to directions. I prefer fresh angel hair for the fine texture
>> and one minute cooking time.
>>
>> You can learn to adjust the measurements according to your taste. The
>> sauce should taste like parmesan. The butter and cream are to give the
>> cheese the correct sauce consistency. Not enough cream and the sauce be
>> too thick (or solid) when it cools.
>
> That sounds utterly disgusting.

It isn't. But it's likely that the sauce is breaking before he can get
the pasta mixed in.

On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 00:05:08 -0500, "cybercat" >
wrote:

>
>"Mitch Scherer" > wrote in message

>> For 4 people,
>> Melt 6 oz. butter. Add 6 oz. parmigiano reggiano and mix until the cheese
>> is wet. Add 1/4 cup of cream and stir the mixture to get a paste. Heat
>> at low temperature until the mixture is a smooth sauce. Mix with 1 pound
>> of fresh fettuccini (or equivalent measure of dried pasta) cooked
>> according to directions. I prefer fresh angel hair for the fine texture
>> and one minute cooking time.
>>
>> You can learn to adjust the measurements according to your taste. The
>> sauce should taste like parmesan. The butter and cream are to give the
>> cheese the correct sauce consistency. Not enough cream and the sauce be
>> too thick (or solid) when it cools.
>
>That sounds utterly disgusting.
>

It isn't really.

I just learned something new last night. I was craving pasta..and I
was reading a food blog called the Amateur Gourmet. He talked about a
dish of pasta with parmesan and nutmeg..... No cream.. Just pasta,
butter, parmesan and nutmeg.. He talks about how he used to make
it...and then goes on to tell what he learned from Lidia
Bastianich....

http://www.amateurgourmet.com/

http://www.amateurgourmet.com/2006/0...ka_pasta_.html

I made this last night...it was simple, very good. Clean
flavors...not gunky...No cream, just butter..and a bit of the pasta
water per Lidia. And good Parmesan. I had some good Parmesan I
picked up in Richmond VA, of all places...from a place called Tom
Leonards. Son of Stew Leonard, of Stew Leonards' fame. Really good
parmesan,for the price. I grated it..and it was marvelous in the
pasta.

Christine

Christine Dabney wrote:
> I just learned something new last night. I was craving pasta..and I
> was reading a food blog called the Amateur Gourmet. He talked about a
> dish of pasta with parmesan and nutmeg..... No cream.. Just pasta,
> butter, parmesan and nutmeg.. He talks about how he used to make
> it...and then goes on to tell what he learned from Lidia
> Bastianich....
>
> http://www.amateurgourmet.com/
>
> http://www.amateurgourmet.com/2006/0...ka_pasta_.html
>
> I made this last night...it was simple, very good. Clean
> flavors...not gunky...No cream, just butter..and a bit of the pasta
> water per Lidia. And good Parmesan. I had some good Parmesan I
> picked up in Richmond VA, of all places...from a place called Tom
> Leonards. Son of Stew Leonard, of Stew Leonards' fame. Really good
> parmesan,for the price. I grated it..and it was marvelous in the
> pasta.

America's Test Kitchens says that fettucini Alfredo was originally made
with just pasta, butter, nutmeg and cheese. The cream bit came in later.
Most how-to's advocate using pasta water to loosen sauces that become
too thick.

On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 22:21:56 -0600, Pennyaline
> wrote:

>America's Test Kitchens says that fettucini Alfredo was originally made
>with just pasta, butter, nutmeg and cheese. The cream bit came in later.
>Most how-to's advocate using pasta water to loosen sauces that become
>too thick.

Someone posted here a long time ago saying that American parmesan
isn't as "creamy" as cheese in Italy. I don't disagree with using
pasta water to loosen, it's just that I've never used it as the main
liquid in Alfredo. I'm satisfied with this recipe.

Simple Fettuccine Alfredo
(I hate the taste of nutmeg, so it's not mentioned here)

8 oz. "wide" noodles (use linguini or fettuccini), cooked until barely
al dente
6 oz. butter
1 1/2 C. heavy (whipping) cream
1 C Parmesan cheese
<I also use Romano, Asiago or a combination>
Salt and pepper

Melt the butter in a wide pan. Add cream and boil rapidly until
thick. Take off the heat. Add noodles to the cooking pan and toss
with the cheese.

Season to taste with salt and pepper.

Transfer to a warm bowl and serve immediately.





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"Christine Dabney" > wrote:
>>
>>That sounds utterly disgusting.
>>
>
> It isn't really.
>
> I just learned something new last night. I was craving pasta..and I
> was reading a food blog called the Amateur Gourmet. He talked about a
> dish of pasta with parmesan and nutmeg..... No cream.. Just pasta,
> butter, parmesan and nutmeg.. He talks about how he used to make
> it...and then goes on to tell what he learned from Lidia
> Bastianich....


I can see this, but butter, parmesan, and heavy cream? Too fatty for me.
And I like fat. I think it is the butter added to the cheese that seems way
too much to me.

On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 01:07:48 -0500, "cybercat" >
wrote:

>
>"Christine Dabney" > wrote:

>>
>> I just learned something new last night. I was craving pasta..and I
>> was reading a food blog called the Amateur Gourmet. He talked about a
>> dish of pasta with parmesan and nutmeg..... No cream.. Just pasta,
>> butter, parmesan and nutmeg.. He talks about how he used to make
>> it...and then goes on to tell what he learned from Lidia
>> Bastianich....
>
>
>I can see this, but butter, parmesan, and heavy cream? Too fatty for me.
>And I like fat. I think it is the butter added to the cheese that seems way
>too much to me.

Have you ever tried it? Don't knock it til you have tried it....
The way I fixed it last night, it wasn't too fatty at all....

Christine

On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 01:07:48 -0500, "cybercat" >
wrote:

>I can see this, but butter, parmesan, and heavy cream? Too fatty for me.
>And I like fat. I think it is the butter added to the cheese that seems way
>too much to me.
>
<whispering> Try it, you might like it!

But be careful because I can only think of what happened after son
make a real "lard" pie crust.

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"Christine Dabney" > wrote
>
> It isn't really.
>
> I just learned something new last night. I was craving pasta..and I
> was reading a food blog called the Amateur Gourmet. He talked about a
> dish of pasta with parmesan and nutmeg..... No cream.. Just pasta,
> butter, parmesan and nutmeg.. He talks about how he used to make
> it...and then goes on to tell what he learned from Lidia
> Bastianich....
>
> http://www.amateurgourmet.com/
>
> http://www.amateurgourmet.com/2006/0...ka_pasta_.html
>
>
I really like pasta with a little butter and fresh grated parmesan. But
the cream seems like too much, for me.



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On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 01:17:17 -0500, "cybercat" >
wrote:


>I really like pasta with a little butter and fresh grated parmesan. But
>the cream seems like too much, for me.

As many folks have stated, the original Alfredo was just butter and
parmesan, with no cream.

Try it with the nutmeg...

And try this variation, mentioned on the website I listed above. It
has no cream in it..and is loosened with pasta water.

Next time I might add more nutmeg. It was really, really good.

And to *******ize it, a touch of cream really isn't bad...but it isn't
needed. But it really isn't too rich with it either.

Christine

"Christine Dabney" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 00:05:08 -0500, "cybercat" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Mitch Scherer" > wrote in message
>
>>> For 4 people,
>>> Melt 6 oz. butter. Add 6 oz. parmigiano reggiano and mix until the
>>> cheese
>>> is wet. Add 1/4 cup of cream and stir the mixture to get a paste. Heat
>>> at low temperature until the mixture is a smooth sauce. Mix with 1
>>> pound
>>> of fresh fettuccini (or equivalent measure of dried pasta) cooked
>>> according to directions. I prefer fresh angel hair for the fine texture
>>> and one minute cooking time.
>>>
>>> You can learn to adjust the measurements according to your taste. The
>>> sauce should taste like parmesan. The butter and cream are to give the
>>> cheese the correct sauce consistency. Not enough cream and the sauce be
>>> too thick (or solid) when it cools.
>>
>>That sounds utterly disgusting.
>>
>
> It isn't really.
>
> I just learned something new last night. I was craving pasta..and I
> was reading a food blog called the Amateur Gourmet. He talked about a
> dish of pasta with parmesan and nutmeg..... No cream.. Just pasta,
> butter, parmesan and nutmeg.. He talks about how he used to make
> it...and then goes on to tell what he learned from Lidia
> Bastianich....
>
> http://www.amateurgourmet.com/
>
> http://www.amateurgourmet.com/2006/0...ka_pasta_.html
>
> I made this last night...it was simple, very good. Clean
> flavors...not gunky...No cream, just butter..and a bit of the pasta
> water per Lidia. And good Parmesan. I had some good Parmesan I
> picked up in Richmond VA, of all places...from a place called Tom
> Leonards. Son of Stew Leonard, of Stew Leonards' fame. Really good
> parmesan,for the price. I grated it..and it was marvelous in the
> pasta.
>
> Christine

Alfredo's original recipe simply called for equal parts parmigiano reggiano
and butter, but if you don't wolf it down before it cools, it will solidify.
This cheese is one of the most treasured delicacies of Italy and they don't
think it is disgusting.

Mitch

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wrote:
> Everytime I make Alfredo sauce it comes out lumpy. Can anyone tell me
> why and help me avoid this?
>

Eeeewwww! Try more foreplay.

<or less>

> wrote in message
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> Everytime I make Alfredo sauce it comes out lumpy. Can anyone tell me
> why and help me avoid this?

Make a thin white sauce and add your cheese.

The classic white sauce (bechamel) is (as I recall) two tablespoons butter
heated to a bubble with two tablespoons of flour added slowly and stirred
for two minutes. Then add a cup of milk, for a thinner sauce, a cup and a
half or more, slowly. Bring it to a boil reduce it to a simmer and stir the
whole time it thickens.

Add fresh grated parmesan to this, to taste, after it begins to thicken. You
won't get lumps, and it won't be pure grease like recipes that call for
nothing but butter and cheese and heavy cream. Ick.

"cybercat" > wrote in message
...
>
> > wrote in message
> ups.com...
>> Everytime I make Alfredo sauce it comes out lumpy. Can anyone tell me
>> why and help me avoid this?
>
> Make a thin white sauce and add your cheese.
>
> The classic white sauce (bechamel) is (as I recall) two tablespoons butter
> heated to a bubble with two tablespoons of flour added slowly and stirred
> for two minutes. Then add a cup of milk, for a thinner sauce, a cup and a
> half or more, slowly. Bring it to a boil reduce it to a simmer and stir
> the whole time it thickens.
>
> Add fresh grated parmesan to this, to taste, after it begins to thicken.
> You won't get lumps, and it won't be pure grease like recipes that call
> for nothing but butter and cheese and heavy cream. Ick.

Perhaps you will eat twice as much to acquire the requisite amount of grease
to satiate your palate.
Beware! ;-))

Dee Dee

cybercat wrote:

> Make a thin white sauce and add your cheese.
>
FLOUR in Alfredo?! Blasphemy....and not the desired flavor at all.

"Goomba38" > wrote in message
. ..
> cybercat wrote:
>
>> Make a thin white sauce and add your cheese.
>>
> FLOUR in Alfredo?! Blasphemy....and not the desired flavor at all.

I know. I just cannot stand all that unadulterated grease. We like what we
like. I'd rather make a thin white sauce, add good cheese, and forgo the
heavy cream.

"cybercat" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Goomba38" > wrote in message
> . ..
>> cybercat wrote:
>>
>>> Make a thin white sauce and add your cheese.
>>>
>> FLOUR in Alfredo?! Blasphemy....and not the desired flavor at all.
>
> I know. I just cannot stand all that unadulterated grease. We like what we
> like. I'd rather make a thin white sauce, add good cheese, and forgo the
> heavy cream.


Quick definitions (grease)


a.. noun: a thick fatty oil (especially one used to lubricate machinery)
a.. noun: the state of being covered with unclean things
a.. verb: lubricate with grease (Example: "Grease the wheels")

"Dee.Dee" > wrote in message
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>
> "cybercat" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Goomba38" > wrote in message
> > . ..
> >> cybercat wrote:
> >>
> >>> Make a thin white sauce and add your cheese.
> >>>
> >> FLOUR in Alfredo?! Blasphemy....and not the desired flavor at all.
> >
> > I know. I just cannot stand all that unadulterated grease. We like what
we
> > like. I'd rather make a thin white sauce, add good cheese, and forgo the
> > heavy cream.
>
>
> Quick definitions (grease)
>
>
> a.. noun: a thick fatty oil (especially one used to lubricate machinery)
> a.. noun: the state of being covered with unclean things
> a.. verb: lubricate with grease (Example: "Grease the wheels")
>

A properly made Alfredo should contain enough grease to repack your car's
wheel bearings. That's why it is so delicious, it has the potential to kill
you if taken to excess. What works for sex works for food. It's best when
it is really bad for you.

Paul

Goomba38 wrote:
> cybercat wrote:
>
>> Make a thin white sauce and add your cheese.
>>
> FLOUR in Alfredo?! Blasphemy....and not the desired flavor at all.

OMG. Here we go... somebody used the dreaded "A" word

Remember Bob P's Half-Assed ******* Sauce?

I'm sure it's been posted here about a mill-yun times... but here it is
for old time's sake:

* Exported from MasterCook *

Pastorio's Half-Assed ******* Sauce

Recipe By :Bob Pastorio
Serving Size : 0 Preparation Time :0:00
Categories : pasta sauces/gravies

Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
-------- ------------ --------------------------------
1/2 cup milk
3 tablespoons butter
1 clove garlic
more butter -- if desired
2 tablespoons bacon fat -- if desired
1 large egg
1/4 cup parmesan cheese
flat leaf parsley
fresh ground black pepper

Use some milk. Real milk. Or some skim crap (my how often that shows up in
culinary discourse) with butter in it. The start of a cream coating for the
pasta.

For a pound of pasta, let's build a hypothetical dressing. 1/2 cup milk,
three tablespoons butter and a garlic clove (mashed and very finely minced)
heated until the butter melts and it comes to a boil. Stir to distribute
the butter and to poach the garlic. Reduce to about 1/3 cup - the reduction
will thicken a bit and have a richer mouthfeel. More butter wouldn't hurt
it, nor would a couple tablespoons bacon fat.

Meanwhile, break an egg into a large bowl and add 1/4 cup parmesan cheese
and some fresh, flat leaf parsley. A good grating of black pepper. When the
pasta is done, drain it. Dump the milk reduction into the bowl with the egg
and whisk furiously to mix it all together. Dump the pasta in and toss
quickly to full coat. Serve immediately. More cheese at table.

Description:
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that itself is enormously flexible."
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On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:17:13 +0200, ChattyCathy
> wrote:

>Remember Bob P's Half-Assed ******* Sauce?
>
>I'm sure it's been posted here about a mill-yun times... but here it is
>for old time's sake:
>
>* Exported from MasterCook *
>
> Pastorio's Half-Assed ******* Sauce
>
>Recipe By :Bob Pastorio
>Serving Size : 0 Preparation Time :0:00
>Categories : pasta sauces/gravies
>
> Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
>-------- ------------ --------------------------------
> 1/2 cup milk
> 3 tablespoons butter
> 1 clove garlic
> more butter -- if desired
> 2 tablespoons bacon fat -- if desired
> 1 large egg
> 1/4 cup parmesan cheese
> flat leaf parsley


Eeew! It has an egg in it. That's really half assed.

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sf wrote:

>>
>> Pastorio's Half-Assed ******* Sauce
>>
>> Recipe By :Bob Pastorio
>> Serving Size : 0 Preparation Time :0:00
>> Categories : pasta sauces/gravies
>>
>> Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
>> -------- ------------ --------------------------------
>> 1/2 cup milk
>> 3 tablespoons butter
>> 1 clove garlic
>> more butter -- if desired
>> 2 tablespoons bacon fat -- if desired
>> 1 large egg
>> 1/4 cup parmesan cheese
>> flat leaf parsley
>
>
> Eeew! It has an egg in it. That's really half assed.
>

I make a carbonara that uses cream, butter, eggs and parmesan, as well
as crumbled bacon/pancetta/ham and sometimes some peas or mushrooms. It
is delicious!

"Goomba38" > wrote in message
. ..
> cybercat wrote:
>
>> Make a thin white sauce and add your cheese.
>>
> FLOUR in Alfredo?! Blasphemy....and not the desired flavor at all.

It is true. The greatest classic meals are made with a few VERY GOOD
ingredients.

Mitch

"Mitch Scherer" > wrote in message
...
> "Goomba38" > wrote in message
> . ..
>> cybercat wrote:
>>
>>> Make a thin white sauce and add your cheese.
>>>
>> FLOUR in Alfredo?! Blasphemy....and not the desired flavor at all.
>
> It is true. The greatest classic meals are made with a few VERY GOOD
> ingredients.
>

I guess I am just not that big a fan of alfredo. All that fat and all those
refined carbs, nothing green, nothing fresh. Ick.

But those of you who like it, have at it! They're your asses, not mine.

"cybercat" > wrote in message
...
>
> > wrote in message
> ups.com...
> > Everytime I make Alfredo sauce it comes out lumpy. Can anyone tell me
> > why and help me avoid this?
>
> Make a thin white sauce and add your cheese.
>
> The classic white sauce (bechamel) is (as I recall) two tablespoons butter
> heated to a bubble with two tablespoons of flour added slowly and stirred
> for two minutes. Then add a cup of milk, for a thinner sauce, a cup and a
> half or more, slowly. Bring it to a boil reduce it to a simmer and stir
the
> whole time it thickens.
>
> Add fresh grated parmesan to this, to taste, after it begins to thicken.
You
> won't get lumps, and it won't be pure grease like recipes that call for
> nothing but butter and cheese and heavy cream. Ick.
>

No proper Alfredo sauce ever required flour.

OK, here is the classic method.

heat a large deep plate in the oven
when the pasta is ready remove it
put a large amount of soft butter, about 1/4 pound onto the plate
1 handful or more fresh reggiano, at least 1 cup
pasta goes straight from the water onto the plate
add a little pasta water
toss the pasta and butter/cheese
add cream (half and half is OK) and keep tossing
grate some fresh nutmeg onto the pasta

You will get a very smooth "sauce." That is how it is always done it Italy.

Paul

"Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
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>
> No proper Alfredo sauce ever required flour.
>
> OK, here is the classic method.
>
> heat a large deep plate in the oven
> when the pasta is ready remove it
> put a large amount of soft butter, about 1/4 pound onto the plate
> 1 handful or more fresh reggiano, at least 1 cup
> pasta goes straight from the water onto the plate
> add a little pasta water
> toss the pasta and butter/cheese
> add cream (half and half is OK) and keep tossing
> grate some fresh nutmeg onto the pasta
>
> You will get a very smooth "sauce." That is how it is always done it
> Italy.
>
> Paul

I swore I would never again get trapped into an alfredo thread but ...

You were doing fine through the butter and cheese, but you lost me at the
cream.

Felice

"Felice Friese" > wrote in message
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>
> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
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>
> >
> > No proper Alfredo sauce ever required flour.
> >
> > OK, here is the classic method.
> >
> > heat a large deep plate in the oven
> > when the pasta is ready remove it
> > put a large amount of soft butter, about 1/4 pound onto the plate
> > 1 handful or more fresh reggiano, at least 1 cup
> > pasta goes straight from the water onto the plate
> > add a little pasta water
> > toss the pasta and butter/cheese
> > add cream (half and half is OK) and keep tossing
> > grate some fresh nutmeg onto the pasta
> >
> > You will get a very smooth "sauce." That is how it is always done it
> > Italy.
> >
> > Paul
>
> I swore I would never again get trapped into an alfredo thread but ...
>
> You were doing fine through the butter and cheese, but you lost me at the
> cream.


Well that's the dish. If you don't like it, don't make it. It's quite a
load of fat and calories, no way around it. But you don't eat it every day.
I like to have papaya for dessert if I am having a meal that is overly rich.
Makes for a much more comfortable transition.

Paul

On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 17:01:21 GMT, "Paul M. Cook"
> wrote:

>
>"Felice Friese" > wrote in message
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>>
>> "Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
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>>
>> >
>> > No proper Alfredo sauce ever required flour.
>> >
>> > OK, here is the classic method.
>> >
>> > heat a large deep plate in the oven
>> > when the pasta is ready remove it
>> > put a large amount of soft butter, about 1/4 pound onto the plate
>> > 1 handful or more fresh reggiano, at least 1 cup
>> > pasta goes straight from the water onto the plate
>> > add a little pasta water
>> > toss the pasta and butter/cheese
>> > add cream (half and half is OK) and keep tossing
>> > grate some fresh nutmeg onto the pasta
>> >
>> > You will get a very smooth "sauce." That is how it is always done it
>> > Italy.
>> >
>> > Paul
>>
>> I swore I would never again get trapped into an alfredo thread but ...
>>
>> You were doing fine through the butter and cheese, but you lost me at the
>> cream.
>
>
>Well that's the dish. If you don't like it, don't make it. It's quite a
>load of fat and calories, no way around it. But you don't eat it every day.
>I like to have papaya for dessert if I am having a meal that is overly rich.
>Makes for a much more comfortable transition.
>
Not only that, but in Italy the cream is a double cream, which I have
never seen in the states.

> You were doing fine through the butter and cheese, but you lost me at the
> cream.


I think I see you behind the pickles. Wave a few times.

Paul

"Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
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>
>> You were doing fine through the butter and cheese, but you lost me at the
>> cream.
>
>
> I think I see you behind the pickles. Wave a few times.
>
> Paul

Hoo hoo! Paul! I'm in the pasta aisle!

Felice

On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:54:11 -0400, "Felice Friese"
> wrote:

>
>"Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
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>
>>
>> No proper Alfredo sauce ever required flour.
>>
>> OK, here is the classic method.
>>
>> heat a large deep plate in the oven
>> when the pasta is ready remove it
>> put a large amount of soft butter, about 1/4 pound onto the plate
>> 1 handful or more fresh reggiano, at least 1 cup
>> pasta goes straight from the water onto the plate
>> add a little pasta water
>> toss the pasta and butter/cheese
>> add cream (half and half is OK) and keep tossing
>> grate some fresh nutmeg onto the pasta
>>
>> You will get a very smooth "sauce." That is how it is always done it
>> Italy.
>>
>> Paul
>
>I swore I would never again get trapped into an alfredo thread but ...
>
>You were doing fine through the butter and cheese, but you lost me at the
>cream.
>
>Felice
>

i too thought the classic was just butter and cheese. black pepper at
serving time.

your pal,
blake

On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 01:13:20 -0500, "cybercat" >
wrote:

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> wrote in message
oups.com...
>> Everytime I make Alfredo sauce it comes out lumpy. Can anyone tell me
>> why and help me avoid this?
>
>Make a thin white sauce and add your cheese.
>
Sounds like a bad macroni and cheese recipe to me!

>The classic white sauce (bechamel) is (as I recall) two tablespoons butter
>heated to a bubble with two tablespoons of flour added slowly and stirred
>for two minutes. Then add a cup of milk, for a thinner sauce, a cup and a
>half or more, slowly. Bring it to a boil reduce it to a simmer and stir the
>whole time it thickens.
>
>Add fresh grated parmesan to this, to taste, after it begins to thicken. You
>won't get lumps, and it won't be pure grease like recipes that call for
>nothing but butter and cheese and heavy cream. Ick.
>
Lumps are caused by using milk or light cream. Heavy cream can be
boiled and doesn't break easily.


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"cybercat" > wrote in message
...
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> > wrote in message
> ups.com...
> > Everytime I make Alfredo sauce it comes out lumpy. Can anyone tell me
> > why and help me avoid this?
>
> Make a thin white sauce and add your cheese.
>
> The classic white sauce (bechamel) is (as I recall) two tablespoons butter
> heated to a bubble with two tablespoons of flour added slowly and stirred
> for two minutes. Then add a cup of milk, for a thinner sauce, a cup and a
> half or more, slowly. Bring it to a boil reduce it to a simmer and stir
the
> whole time it thickens.
>
> Add fresh grated parmesan to this, to taste, after it begins to thicken.
You
> won't get lumps, and it won't be pure grease like recipes that call for
> nothing but butter and cheese and heavy cream. Ick.
>

I thought cats liked cream?

Paul

>

"Paul M. Cook" > wrote:
>>
>
> I thought cats liked cream?
>



We do, just not with cheese and butter.

Ob cats: Gracie, who is generally not interested in people
food, will beg for dairy. Very politely, of course. She gets
the bowl after we have eaten all the egg salad, tuna salad, and
chicken salad, our bowls after we have salads with Ranch, and
will lap up 4% cottage cheese. She will only eat Temptations
Dairy flavored cat treats too.



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On 30 Oct 2007 17:55:43 -0700, wrote:

>Everytime I make Alfredo sauce it comes out lumpy. Can anyone tell me
>why and help me avoid this?

Lose the cream. Fettuccine all’Alfredo is made with fresh fettuccine
noodles, high-fat butter, and Parmesano Reggiano. I use equal weights
of butter and cheese.

"Robert Klute" > wrote in message
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> On 30 Oct 2007 17:55:43 -0700, wrote:
>
>>Everytime I make Alfredo sauce it comes out lumpy. Can anyone tell me
>>why and help me avoid this?
>
> Lose the cream. Fettuccine all'Alfredo is made with fresh fettuccine
> noodles, high-fat butter, and Parmesano Reggiano. I use equal weights
> of butter and cheese.

Now, see, I could get behind this. I would just use a *little* butter and a
good bit of parm.

On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:32:19 -0700, Robert Klute >
wrote:

>high-fat butter,

xcuse me, but is there really such a thing as "low fat" butter? If
so, I haven't heard about it. Low fat sour cream, yes. Low fat
butter, no.... unless it's mixed with something and then we're down to
symantics, but it's not really butter to me.

>and Parmesano Reggiano. I use equal weights of butter and cheese.

Oh, ok. Now that I know the proportions. I'll try it!

Seems like a little cream added to the butter/cheese mixture would be
less of a problem than 1/2 butter, 1/2 cheese (if you really cared).


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1/2 cup reconstituted non-fat powdered milk
1/2 cup non-fat Kraft parmesan "cheese" (the stuff in a cardboard tube)
1/2 cup "I Can't Believe It's Not Butter"
1 pound low-carb "pasta"

Yummy.