Does a standard bar jigger hold 30 mL? 45 mL?

One time on Usenet, Goomba38 > said:

> Does a standard bar jigger hold 30 mL? 45 mL?

Mine holds 30 mL, but that's measured well below the rim. I'm not sure
how much it would be then...

--
Jani in WA

Oh pshaw, on Wed 31 Oct 2007 09:42:32a, Little Malice meant to say...

> One time on Usenet, Goomba38 > said:
>
>> Does a standard bar jigger hold 30 mL? 45 mL?
>
> Mine holds 30 mL, but that's measured well below the rim. I'm not sure
> how much it would be then...
>

To the brim is usually 45. To the mark is usually 30.

--
Wayne Boatwright
__________________________________________________

I have a rock garden, but three of them died last week.

Goomba38 wrote:
>
> Does a standard bar jigger hold 30 mL? 45 mL?

Jiggers usually come in pairs, 1 oz. and 1 1/2 oz. and 1 oz. is roughly 30
ml.
However, jiggers also come in different sizes.


I checked a bar tending site and it said that the standard size varies.

Dave Smith wrote:
> Goomba38 wrote:
>> Does a standard bar jigger hold 30 mL? 45 mL?
>
> Jiggers usually come in pairs, 1 oz. and 1 1/2 oz. and 1 oz. is roughly 30
> ml.
> However, jiggers also come in different sizes.
>
>
> I checked a bar tending site and it said that the standard size varies.

I thought there were two sizes? The reason I ask is because when making
a drink recipe it calls for a jigger. I want it to be accurate taste
wise and usually I just pour free hand.

Goomba38 wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>> Goomba38 wrote:
>>> Does a standard bar jigger hold 30 mL? 45 mL?
>>
>> Jiggers usually come in pairs, 1 oz. and 1 1/2 oz. and 1 oz. is
>> roughly 30 ml.
>> However, jiggers also come in different sizes.
>>
>>
>> I checked a bar tending site and it said that the standard size
>> varies.
>
> I thought there were two sizes? The reason I ask is because when
> making a drink recipe it calls for a jigger. I want it to be
> accurate taste wise and usually I just pour free hand.

When pouring free hand, just tip the bottle and do the old "one one-thousand
two one-thousand" count (then stop!) LOL It's what I did when I was
bartending. We didn't have time to measure using jiggers. Later they
bought automatic shot pours (they fit over the bottle neck and stop the pour
at 1 oz.). Some of the bartenders were waaay over-pouring for their
friends. (Of course there's nothing to stop you from tipping the bottle
back down, then pouring again.)

Jill

On Oct 31, 1:02?pm, "jmcquown" > wrote:
> Goomba38 wrote:
> > Dave Smith wrote:
> >> Goomba38 wrote:
> >>> Does a standard bar jigger hold 30 mL? 45 mL?
>
> >> Jiggers usually come in pairs, 1 oz. and 1 1/2 oz. and 1 oz. is
> >> roughly 30 ml.
> >> However, jiggers also come in different sizes.
>
> >> I checked a bar tending site and it said that the standard size
> >> varies.
>
> > I thought there were two sizes? The reason I ask is because when
> > making a drink recipe it calls for a jigger. I want it to be
> > accurate taste wise and usually I just pour free hand.
>
> When pouring free hand, just tip the bottle and do the old "one one-thousand
> two one-thousand" count (then stop!) LOL It's what I did when I was
> bartending. We didn't have time to measure using jiggers. Later they
> bought automatic shot pours (they fit over the bottle neck and stop the pour
> at 1 oz.). Some of the bartenders were waaay over-pouring for their
> friends. (Of course there's nothing to stop you from tipping the bottle
> back down, then pouring again.)
>
> Jill

You never worked behind a bar.

Sheldon wrote:
> On Oct 31, 1:02?pm, "jmcquown" > wrote:
>> Goomba38 wrote:
>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> Goomba38 wrote:
>>>>> Does a standard bar jigger hold 30 mL? 45 mL?
>>
>>>> Jiggers usually come in pairs, 1 oz. and 1 1/2 oz. and 1 oz. is
>>>> roughly 30 ml.
>>>> However, jiggers also come in different sizes.
>>
>>>> I checked a bar tending site and it said that the standard size
>>>> varies.
>>
>>> I thought there were two sizes? The reason I ask is because when
>>> making a drink recipe it calls for a jigger. I want it to be
>>> accurate taste wise and usually I just pour free hand.
>>
>> When pouring free hand, just tip the bottle and do the old "one
>> one-thousand two one-thousand" count (then stop!) LOL It's what I
>> did when I was bartending. We didn't have time to measure using
>> jiggers. Later they bought automatic shot pours (they fit over the
>> bottle neck and stop the pour at 1 oz.). Some of the bartenders
>> were waaay over-pouring for their friends. (Of course there's
>> nothing to stop you from tipping the bottle back down, then pouring
>> again.)
>>
>> Jill
>
> You never worked behind a bar.

Certainly did, dear. I'm not sure if my manager is still in the area since
this was 1982 but if you'd like I'll give him your name and he can call you.

Jill

Goomba38 wrote:
>
> Dave Smith wrote:
> > Goomba38 wrote:
> >> Does a standard bar jigger hold 30 mL? 45 mL?
> >
> > Jiggers usually come in pairs, 1 oz. and 1 1/2 oz. and 1 oz. is roughly 30
> > ml.
> > However, jiggers also come in different sizes.
> >
> >
> > I checked a bar tending site and it said that the standard size varies.
>
> I thought there were two sizes? The reason I ask is because when making
> a drink recipe it calls for a jigger. I want it to be accurate taste
> wise and usually I just pour free hand.

Here is a link to a bar supply business:

http://www.worldbarsupply.com/jiggers-c-127.html

The sell 1 oz. 1 1 1/5 oz., 1/2 x 3/4, 3/4 x 1 1/4, 3/4 x 1 1/2 1 x 2, 3/4
x 1, 7/8 x 1 1/4.. In metric they sell 15 x 30, 20 x 40, 25 x 50, 30 x 60.


It is usually the ratio of the liquors that make the big difference with
ice and mixes allowing room for adjustment. My favourite cocktail is a
Manhattan, two parts Rye and one part sweet vermouth and a dash of bitters.
They are great in those proportions but having a little too much of one or
the other throws them right off.

On Oct 31, 12:30?pm, Dave Smith > wrote:
> Goomba38 wrote:
>
> > Dave Smith wrote:
> > > Goomba38 wrote:
> > >> Does a standard bar jigger hold 30 mL? 45 mL?
>
> > > Jiggers usually come in pairs, 1 oz. and 1 1/2 oz. and 1 oz. is roughly 30
> > > ml.
> > > However, jiggers also come in different sizes.
>
> > > I checked a bar tending site and it said that the standard size varies.
>
> > I thought there were two sizes? The reason I ask is because when making
> > a drink recipe it calls for a jigger. I want it to be accurate taste
> > wise and usually I just pour free hand.
>
> Here is a link to a bar supply business:
>
> http://www.worldbarsupply.com/jiggers-c-127.html
>
> The sell 1 oz. 1 1 1/5 oz., 1/2 x 3/4, 3/4 x 1 1/4, 3/4 x 1 1/2 1 x 2, 3/4
> x 1, 7/8 x 1 1/4.. In metric they sell 15 x 30, 20 x 40, 25 x 50, 30 x 60.
>
> It is usually the ratio of the liquors that make the big difference with
> ice and mixes allowing room for adjustment. My favourite cocktail is a
> Manhattan, two parts Rye and one part sweet vermouth and a dash of bitters.
> They are great in those proportions but having a little too much of one or
> the other throws them right off

This is hilarious.

One time on Usenet, Dave Smith > said:
>
> Goomba38 wrote:
> >
> > Does a standard bar jigger hold 30 mL? 45 mL?
>
> Jiggers usually come in pairs, 1 oz. and 1 1/2 oz. and 1 oz. is roughly 30
> ml.
> However, jiggers also come in different sizes.
>
>
> I checked a bar tending site and it said that the standard size varies.

I won't argue with the site as they probably know more than I do
about it. However, I learned to mix drinks when I was a very small
child and the 1.5 oz. glasses were called shots, as compared to the
smaller, 1 oz. jigger. Then again, this was a long time ago, so
maybe things have changed...

--
Jani in WA

On Oct 31, 12:57?pm, (Little Malice) wrote:
> One time on Usenet, Dave Smith > said:
>
>
>
> > Goomba38 wrote:
>
> > > Does a standard bar jigger hold 30 mL? 45 mL?
>
> > Jiggers usually come in pairs, 1 oz. and 1 1/2 oz. and 1 oz. is roughly 30
> > ml.
> > However, jiggers also come in different sizes.
>
> > I checked a bar tending site and it said that the standard size varies.
>
> I won't argue with the site as they probably know more than I do
> about it. However, I learned to mix drinks when I was a very small
> child and the 1.5 oz. glasses were called shots, as compared to the
> smaller, 1 oz. jigger. Then again, this was a long time ago, so
> maybe things have changed...

Imagine, not a one of yoose knows about bar measurements. Well, there
goes all the wine/bar maven credibility... don't any of yoose dare
make fun of my cheapo booze... I don't believe any of yoose have
bought any more expensive booze than I drink.

A shot and a jigger are exactly the same = 1 1/2 ounces.

A pony is 1 ounce.


http://www.webtender.com/handbook/measurements.html

: A pony is 1 ounce.

A pony is 7.75 gallons - at least it was in my college days!!!

:-)

In article >,
wrote:

> : A pony is 1 ounce.
>
> A pony is 7.75 gallons - at least it was in my college days!!!

It still is! GMTA.

leo

On Oct 31, 12:57?pm, (Little Malice) wrote:
> One time on Usenet, Dave Smith > said:
>
>
>
> > Goomba38 wrote:
>
> > > Does a standard bar jigger hold 30 mL? 45 mL?
>
> > Jiggers usually come in pairs, 1 oz. and 1 1/2 oz. and 1 oz. is roughly 30
> > ml.
> > However, jiggers also come in different sizes.
>
> > I checked a bar tending site and it said that the standard size varies.
>
> I won't argue with the site as they probably know more than I do
> about it. However, I learned to mix drinks when I was a very small
> child and the 1.5 oz. glasses were called shots, as compared to the
> smaller, 1 oz. jigger. Then again, this was a long time ago, so
> maybe things have changed...

A jigger and a shot are exactly the same, 1 1/2 ounces. One ounce is
a pony. The gizmo used to do the measuring hasn't a whit to do with
anything, except that better bars use a heavy shot *glass* to measure
top shelf booze (house booze is measured by eye and typicsally
shorted).... typically the glass shot/jigger will have an etched
marking for 1 ounce (pony). Those metal combo shot/pony are toy r us
bar set gadgets (usually have a handle) for people with home bars who
know nothing. Many (actually most) bars cheat by calling 1 ounce a
shot/jigger.

http://www.webtender.com/handbook/measurements.html

On Oct 31, 11:49?am, Dave Smith > wrote:
> Goomba38 wrote:
>
> > Does a standard bar jigger hold 30 mL? 45 mL?
>
> Jiggers usually come in pairs, 1 oz. and 1 1/2 oz. and 1 oz. is roughly 30
> ml.
> However, jiggers also come in different sizes.
>
> I checked a bar tending site and it said that the standard size varies.

You somehoe neglected to post the URL for that site... duh

On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:49:38 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>
>Goomba38 wrote:
>>
>> Does a standard bar jigger hold 30 mL? 45 mL?
>
>Jiggers usually come in pairs, 1 oz. and 1 1/2 oz. and 1 oz. is roughly 30
>ml.
>However, jiggers also come in different sizes.

A jigger is a measuring device. While the double ended version is most
common, it can be double or single ended. The double ended version is
more properly referred to as a double jigger. The single ended measure
is sometimes referred to as a thimble. The measure can also referred to
as a peg, which can be single or double ended. For the peg there is a
large peg and a small peg.

The typical size for a jigger, as a generic term for a double ended
measure, was 1 oz over 1-1/2 oz. In reality jiggers come in multipe
sizes and ratios, from 1 oz to 2 oz on the large end and 1/2 oz to 1 oz
on the small end. The ratio can vary from 2:1 to 3:2.

In the US, the the large measure is referred to as a jigger, or jigger
shot, or just shot, and the small end is a pony, or pony shot. The NIH
uses 1-1/2 oz. as its 'standard' for an 80-proof drink size.

"Goomba38" > wrote in message
. ..
> Does a standard bar jigger hold 30 mL? 45 mL?

What did your dictionary (book) say?

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> "Goomba38" > wrote in message
> . ..
>> Does a standard bar jigger hold 30 mL? 45 mL?
>
> What did your dictionary (book) say?
>
>
Well Joe.. it said many things.I'm asking what it generally means today
here in the US. Jiggers, shots and pony shot all seem to fluctuate in
quantity.

From the Answer.Com site-

A jigger or measure is a bartending tool used to measure liquor, which
is typically then poured into a cocktail shaker. It is named for the
unit of liquid it typically measures, a 1.5 fluid ounce (~44 ml) jigger
or shot. However bar jiggers come in other sizes and may not actually
measure a fluid jigger.

A traditional style of jigger is made of stainless steel with two
opposing cones in an hourglass shape on the end of a rod. Typically, one
cone measures a fluid jigger and the other 1.0 fl. oz. (~30 ml) pony
(shot) or 0.75 fl. oz (~22 ml). Other combinations include 2 fl. oz./1
fl. oz. and 1.75 fl. oz./0.75 fl. oz. combinations. A typical British
"jigger" measures 50ml on the larger side, and 25ml on the smaller side.
A variation on the double jigger excludes the rod. In the UK, to double,
or sometimes even triple the measurable amount of liquor within a
cocktail or mixed alchoholic beverage is known as a Geraghty Measure.

On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:43:11 -0400, Goomba38 >
wrote:

>JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>> "Goomba38" > wrote in message
>> . ..
>>> Does a standard bar jigger hold 30 mL? 45 mL?
>>
>> What did your dictionary (book) say?
>>
>>
>Well Joe.. it said many things.I'm asking what it generally means today
>here in the US. Jiggers, shots and pony shot all seem to fluctuate in
>quantity.
>
> From the Answer.Com site-
>
>A jigger or measure is a bartending tool used to measure liquor, which
>is typically then poured into a cocktail shaker. It is named for the
>unit of liquid it typically measures, a 1.5 fluid ounce (~44 ml) jigger
>or shot. However bar jiggers come in other sizes and may not actually
>measure a fluid jigger.
>
>A traditional style of jigger is made of stainless steel with two
>opposing cones in an hourglass shape on the end of a rod. Typically, one
>cone measures a fluid jigger and the other 1.0 fl. oz. (~30 ml) pony
>(shot) or 0.75 fl. oz (~22 ml). Other combinations include 2 fl. oz./1
>fl. oz. and 1.75 fl. oz./0.75 fl. oz. combinations. A typical British
>"jigger" measures 50ml on the larger side, and 25ml on the smaller side.
>A variation on the double jigger excludes the rod. In the UK, to double,
>or sometimes even triple the measurable amount of liquor within a
>cocktail or mixed alchoholic beverage is known as a Geraghty Measure.

i usually pour two ounces for a highball, but i'm my own bartender,
and i like me because i usually tip myself pretty well.

your pal,
blake

blake murphy wrote:
>
> i usually pour two ounces for a highball, but i'm my own bartender,
> and i like me because i usually tip myself pretty well.

Any respectable Mick is a tipsy tippler. <g>

On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:31:02 -0400, Goomba38 >
wrote:

>Does a standard bar jigger hold 30 mL? 45 mL?

I don't know from ml's but if memory serves me right from my old
bartending days a jigger is an ounce.

koko
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http://www.kokoscorner.typepad.com
updated 10/23

"There is no love more sincere than the love of food"
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koko wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:31:02 -0400, Goomba38 >
> wrote:
>
>> Does a standard bar jigger hold 30 mL? 45 mL?
>
> I don't know from ml's but if memory serves me right from my old
> bartending days a jigger is an ounce.

Okie doke.. 1 ounce=30 mL= "a jigger" in the US. Thanks!

(oh yeah, you might use the term "cc" (cubic centimeter) more often but
just remember that 1 cc = 1 mL)

On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 23:47:14 -0400, Goomba38 >
wrote:

>koko wrote:
>> On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:31:02 -0400, Goomba38 >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Does a standard bar jigger hold 30 mL? 45 mL?
>>
>> I don't know from ml's but if memory serves me right from my old
>> bartending days a jigger is an ounce.
>
>Okie doke.. 1 ounce=30 mL= "a jigger" in the US. Thanks!

Nope. A pony is one ounce. A jigger is a device for measuring liquor.
It is now synonymous with the double ended jigger. Used to be the small
end of a double-ended jigger measured a pony. The large end measured a
'shot' which was 1-1/2 oz. A 'jigger' as a measure became synonymous
with the large end, or a 1-1/2 shot.

Unfortunately, these are not government regulated measures in the US.
Thus colloquial measures like a shot or a jigger can be just about any
volume the pourer wants it to be. Borderline false advertising as far
as I am concerned.

Commerically, a jigger as a measuring device can come in any size, most
typically from 3/4 to 2 ounces on the large end. Meaning a bar can
standardize its jiggers or shots to which ever measuring device it buys.

>
>(oh yeah, you might use the term "cc" (cubic centimeter) more often but
>just remember that 1 cc = 1 mL)

Goomba38 > wrote:

> Does a standard bar jigger hold 30 mL? 45 mL?

See section 2.10 of the rfc FAQ.

Victor

Victor Sack wrote:
> Goomba38 > wrote:
>
>> Does a standard bar jigger hold 30 mL? 45 mL?
>
> See section 2.10 of the rfc FAQ.
>
> Victor

Danke! (for this and all you do to keep the FAQ up and posted weekly)