"Stan Horwitz" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> Terry > wrote:
>
>> Hi Andy,
>>
>> Sounds like me just a few months ago. Started losing weight---first
>> time I'd been below 200 lb in ten years or more. Going through 2-3
>> cases of diet soda per week (I usually drink water but was craving
>> sweets and decided diet soda was a better way to hold back the
>> craving.) And I had dessert almost every night. Fasting glucose was
>> 300 mg/dL.
>>
>> I've cut the sugar out almost entirely, though I still drink a fair
>> bit of diet soda. One glucophage tablet each evening. Test every
>> morning with the finger prick, just to keep track (BTW it's the cost
>> of the test strips that gets you. Go to Kroger or Rite Aid and get
>> the store brand strips and tester---half the price of the name
>> brands). Most of my morning tests run 100-110.
>>
>> Runs in my family too. The potential consequences of non-treatment
>> are enough to make me treat it seriously. You can deal with it, not
>> to worry.
>>
>> Best of luck -- Terry
>
> Andy, good luck. Drinking diet soda will not cause diabetes or make it
> worse. I drink tons of diet soda daily and my diabetes is well
> controlled. Also, if you have medical insurance, or if you are on
> medicare or medicade, the test strips and other diabetes supplies are
> either free or low-cost. The best way to combat high blood sugar is to
> take a long walk or bike ride. I am not kidding. Exercise is a fantastic
> way to control diabetes with little or no medication.


Dear f-i-l 'had' or is controlling his diabetes II. He drinks diet soda
every chance he gets. (He doesn't exercise.)
Dee Dee

On Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:22:31 -0400, Stan Horwitz
> wrote:

>In article <wjTWi.358$lx.295@trndny05>,
> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>
>> "Boron Elgar" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> > I don't think the district where I know this happened ever prevented a
>> > kid from testing/injecting altogether, but requested it be done at the
>> > nurses office. This was an elementary school and I wonder if that had
>> > something to do with it. I have a vague memory that the insulin was
>> > kept in the nurse's office.
>>
>> My daughter has a diabetic in her class. She has to go to the nurse's
>> office for insulin. Not sure about the testing.
>
>Could it be that the insulin needs to be refrigerated? Maybe the nurse's
>office is where that student's insulin is kept.

Might be. Depends on the insulin. A friend was telling me about hers,
which is pre-loaded in an injector like an epi-pen, that he keeps out
at room temp. I do not know what kind it is. His doctor refers to her
as a T1.5.

Boron

On Sat, 3 Nov 2007 21:07:12 -0400, "Dee.Dee" >
wrote:

>
>"Boron Elgar" > wrote in message
.. .
>>>
>> The exercise is no strain whatsoever. If anything, I have trouble
>> getting my heart rate up. I use a recumbent bike and also do several
>> reps of a set routine with 2.5 lb hand weight while I pedal.
>>
>> I have no problems with the bike. As long as my rheumatoid arthritis
>> behaves, I am happy exercising. In fact, it is important in many way
>> in keeping the damage of the RA at bay. I am always increasing the
>> workout level on the bike. I think it has maybe 18 levels and I am
>> only at level 9.
>>
>> I find that exercise, even though I really hate the very thought of
>> it, gives me a lot of energy and is helping me regain some of the
>> mobility and agility that the RA has eaten away at. It is a lifesaver,
>> truly it is.
>>
>> When my oldest moves out, her bedroom will become a full exercise room
>> with a Soloflex added to the treadmill and bike we currently use in
>> the TV room.
>>
>> Boron
>
>I'm glad that exercise is working well for you -- I'd love to exercise more;
>I used to a lot. I'm sorry I can't send you my exercise room; basically it
>gets used for folding clothes now.
>
>I wanted DH to buy another piece of equipment the other day, I forget what
>you call it; he said, "no," so I guess we're in the 'walking' stage of our
>life now. That we can do.
>
>I'm really sorry to hear that you have RA.
>Dee Dee
>

Thank you, DeeDee. Think of it this way - after diagnosis I had a
perfect "excuse" to get an Electrolux Magic Mill Mixer.


Boron

"Boron Elgar" > wrote in message
...
>>I'm really sorry to hear that you have RA.
>>Dee Dee
>>
>
> Thank you, DeeDee. Think of it this way - after diagnosis I had a
> perfect "excuse" to get an Electrolux Magic Mill Mixer.
>
>
> Boron


And you know, don't you ;-)))) that I have mine now, and just made my second
loaf yesterday. I can tell you, life is very sweet!

Dee Dee

In article >, sf wrote:

> On Sat, 03 Nov 2007 13:28:26 -0700, Dan Abel > wrote:
>
> >The school she was at wasn't as prestigious, but it seemed more suitable
> >for her diabetes.
>
> I can understand why the transfer to the other school was denied on
> the basis of diabetes,

I'm not sure that I agree. If there was a shred of truth in the
argument, it should have been considered. This was just a claw and a
grab to get the kid in a school with higher test scores. The school was
in a different district, so the original school district would have lost
the ADA. Not good in a district with declining enrollment, and this
school was the worst.


> but I don't understand why you said the
> original school was *more* suitable

There were three type I diabetics at the the school. All the staff were
trained to recognize symptoms and know what to do. The principal was a
former EMT.


>... was it closer to her house and

It was two blocks further, that was the whole argument. The principal
said that if there was a medical emergency, the parents weren't the
first call. The kid needed to go to the hospital. It was a block away
from the original school, two miles from the desired school. The home
was pretty much in the middle of the two schools, which were both on a
residential street, the one I've lived on for the last thirty years, and
the travel time for two blocks is not significant.


> her stay at home mom?


I don't remember saying that. Even so, stay at homes are home less
often than the staff in the emergency room are on duty.


> Did the original school have a low SES
> population and therefore had more peripheral services - such as a full
> time nurse?

The district has a full time nurse who is very knowledgeable about type
I diabetes. She serves five schools, though. Don't know what the rest
of your sentence means.

On Sat, 3 Nov 2007 23:11:29 -0400, "Dee.Dee" >
wrote:

>
>"Boron Elgar" > wrote in message
.. .
>>>I'm really sorry to hear that you have RA.
>>>Dee Dee
>>>
>>
>> Thank you, DeeDee. Think of it this way - after diagnosis I had a
>> perfect "excuse" to get an Electrolux Magic Mill Mixer.
>>
>>
>> Boron
>
>
>And you know, don't you ;-)))) that I have mine now, and just made my second
>loaf yesterday. I can tell you, life is very sweet!
>
>Dee Dee
>
Indeed!

I have a preferment burbling away for tomorrow's baking.

Boron

"Dee.Dee" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Boron Elgar" > wrote in message
> ...
>>>I'm really sorry to hear that you have RA.
>>>Dee Dee
>>>
>>
>> Thank you, DeeDee. Think of it this way - after diagnosis I had a
>> perfect "excuse" to get an Electrolux Magic Mill Mixer.
>>
>>
>> Boron
>
>
> And you know, don't you ;-)))) that I have mine now, and just made my
> second loaf yesterday. I can tell you, life is very sweet!
>
> Dee Dee

I was just reading my posting again, and I could have been more direct. I
bought mine as a result of your response to my query about them, and I
believe Sky's response.
Thanks so much.
Dee Dee

On Sat, 3 Nov 2007 23:42:09 -0400, "Dee.Dee" >
wrote:

>
>"Dee.Dee" > wrote in message
...
>>
>> "Boron Elgar" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>>I'm really sorry to hear that you have RA.
>>>>Dee Dee
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you, DeeDee. Think of it this way - after diagnosis I had a
>>> perfect "excuse" to get an Electrolux Magic Mill Mixer.
>>>
>>>
>>> Boron
>>
>>
>> And you know, don't you ;-)))) that I have mine now, and just made my
>> second loaf yesterday. I can tell you, life is very sweet!
>>
>> Dee Dee
>
>I was just reading my posting again, and I could have been more direct. I
>bought mine as a result of your response to my query about them, and I
>believe Sky's response.
>Thanks so much.
>Dee Dee
>

I'm glad you are enjoying it.

boron

"Boron Elgar" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 3 Nov 2007 23:11:29 -0400, "Dee.Dee" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Boron Elgar" > wrote in message
. ..
>>>>I'm really sorry to hear that you have RA.
>>>>Dee Dee
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you, DeeDee. Think of it this way - after diagnosis I had a
>>> perfect "excuse" to get an Electrolux Magic Mill Mixer.
>>>
>>>
>>> Boron
>>
>>
>>And you know, don't you ;-)))) that I have mine now, and just made my
>>second
>>loaf yesterday. I can tell you, life is very sweet!
>>
>>Dee Dee
>>
> Indeed!
>
> I have a preferment burbling away for tomorrow's baking.
>
> Boron


Alas, I can't plan anything until the end of next week.
DH mentioned the "S" (sourdough) word the other day -- I've never before
heard him utter the word. I wonder what's up.
We'll see what this next year brings.
Happy baking tomorrow.
Dee Dee

In article >,
Boron Elgar > wrote:

> On Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:22:31 -0400, Stan Horwitz

> >Could it be that the insulin needs to be refrigerated? Maybe the nurse's
> >office is where that student's insulin is kept.
>
> Might be. Depends on the insulin.


Insulin is used at room temperature. It is normally stored at room
temperature. Long term storage or hot climate may require storage in
the fridge, but used at room temperature, normally.

Schools have stringent requirements about weapons at school. Not only
is there a needle, but insulin can be a deadly poison. It is the poison
of choice for "nursing home killings". The school may have good reason
for keeping it in a secure place. As long as there is sufficient access
for the student, I don't see a problem.

On Sat, 03 Nov 2007 21:49:32 -0700, Dan Abel > wrote:

>In article >,
> Boron Elgar > wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:22:31 -0400, Stan Horwitz
>
>> >Could it be that the insulin needs to be refrigerated? Maybe the nurse's
>> >office is where that student's insulin is kept.
>>
>> Might be. Depends on the insulin.
>
>
>Insulin is used at room temperature. It is normally stored at room
>temperature. Long term storage or hot climate may require storage in
>the fridge, but used at room temperature, normally.
>
>Schools have stringent requirements about weapons at school. Not only
>is there a needle, but insulin can be a deadly poison. It is the poison
>of choice for "nursing home killings". The school may have good reason
>for keeping it in a secure place. As long as there is sufficient access
>for the student, I don't see a problem.

Whether you see a problem or not has nothing to do with it.

There are many people who carry it around, unrefrigerated in an
epi-pen device. See the Lilly site below.

Oh, and can you provide any citations for insulin being used by any
student as a poison in a school setting?

http://www.lillydiabetes.com/pdf/HI-...ctions_eng.pdf
Pens In-Use
- Humalog/Humulin Pens in-use should NOT be refrigerated but should be
kept at room temperature (below 86°F) away from direct heat and light.
- When in use, unrefrigerated Pens must be discarded after the
following days, even if they still contain insulin:
Humalog 28 days
Humalog Mix75/25 10 days
Humulin N 14 Days
Humulin 70/30 10 Days

Below is a link to a school use survey that is 5 yrs old. I assume
things are even easier now.

http://www.childrenwithdiabetes.com/...ools200212.htm

Whether a child can carry the insulin and self inject appears to be
something that is determined by the district and the age of the child.
Go read up on it.

Boron

"Stan Horwitz" > wrote in message
...
> In article <wjTWi.358$lx.295@trndny05>,
> "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>
>> "Boron Elgar" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> > I don't think the district where I know this happened ever prevented a
>> > kid from testing/injecting altogether, but requested it be done at the
>> > nurses office. This was an elementary school and I wonder if that had
>> > something to do with it. I have a vague memory that the insulin was
>> > kept in the nurse's office.
>>
>> My daughter has a diabetic in her class. She has to go to the nurse's
>> office for insulin. Not sure about the testing.
>
> Could it be that the insulin needs to be refrigerated? Maybe the nurse's
> office is where that student's insulin is kept.

I believe ALL meds must be kept in the nurse's office. They do have fridges
in some of the classrooms. Teacher is also diabetic but am not sure if she
uses insulin or not.

"Dan Abel" > wrote
>
>
> Insulin is used at room temperature. It is normally stored at room
> temperature. Long term storage or hot climate may require storage in
> the fridge, but used at room temperature, normally.

Wow, you are just full of misinformation. Define "room temperature."
And while you're at it, how long is insulin safe when stored at 75 degrees
F or above?

cybercat wrote:
> "Dan Abel" > wrote
>>
>> Insulin is used at room temperature. It is normally stored at room
>> temperature. Long term storage or hot climate may require storage in
>> the fridge, but used at room temperature, normally.
>
> Wow, you are just full of misinformation. Define "room temperature."
> And while you're at it, how long is insulin safe when stored at 75 degrees
> F or above?

At my hospital, we often keep insulin at room temp. We only keep it open
a maximum of a month after opening.

>> My daughter is type 1 and has to take those gawd awful glucose tabs
>> wherever she goes. If she dips low and can get something to eat
>> quickly, however, she will not take one of those chalk tasting things
>> and eat a sweet tart or two....so see Andy, there is a silver lining if
>> you only look for it. -ginny

I can't do those tabs either. I hate chewable chalk like Tums too. So my
endocrinologist gave me the alternative her uses for children. I carry a
tube of cake decorating gel in my purse. Like this...
http://tinyurl.com/2qe6yo

http://thepartyworks.com/product_inf...718bc1e5411464

There is no chewing up, easily swallowed even if you are a bit "out of it".
I had sugars up to the 600s and now I am normal though that is after lots of
weight loss, a change in diet, and just plain vigilance. I went from insulin
four times a day with pills, to no pills in a bit under a year.

I got great advice from my doc for emergencies (not just diabetes). The
background on my cell phone is a document I made with all of my emergency
information on it. Diagnoses, major allergies, hubby's number, my parents,
etc. When I had a grand mal in August it was quick and easy to find all my
ICE informaion.

Good Luck. Diabetes is scary but not the end of the world. Because I have
several diseases that overlap with it, sometimes life's a bitch. But we just
live it and enjoy what we have.

It can't hurt to start improving your diet and exercise patterns now instead
of sitting waiting and worrying. Add a 30 minute walk four times a week. Cut
out late night eating, sugared drinks, heavy carbs, etcetera. If you have a
head start the diagnosis won't be as horrible IF it comes. If not you are
more healthy, Win Win.

Cindi

>
>
> I don't remember which type of diabetes but one day a student came
> rambling
> into the class frantically asking for sweets. We didn't know what was
> happening but a few candy bars were held up for her and some sugar pops
> cereal that she gobbled down and relaxed. That was my first experience
> with
> diabetes. Julie. I'll never forget her. 10th grade. I remember thinking
> how
> sad to be so young and smart and pretty and having such a violent ailment
> I
> didn't understand. The teacher never did pause class to explain it to us
> afterwards. The BUM!!!
>
> Andy