"ravenlynne" > schrieb im Newsbeitrag
...
> Michael Kuettner wrote:
>>> June was ok this year. The rest was awful.
>>>
>> It was wonderful up here (between Venice and Ravenna).
>
>
> July and August were hellish down here in the South. No wonder all of the
> locals go out of town for the entirety of August.
>
Yep; I've met them on the way to the mountains ;-P

>>
>> OBfood : Buittoni offers a frozen pizza "American Style".
>> I haven't had the nerve to try it.
>>
>
>
> I can only imagine. I've been less than impressed by the american style pizza
> that I've sen around, namely Galleria Umberto. Hot dogs and french fry pizza
> anyone?
>
Haven't seen Galleria Umberto in NItaly.
Is this a larger company like Buittoni or Parmalat ?

Cheers,

Michael Kuettner

On Sun, 4 Nov 2007 20:30:15 +0100, "Michael Kuettner"
> wrote:

>> CA had a few years during the Viet Nam Conflict era
>> when the drinking age was lowered to age 18. We discovered it wasn't
>> a good idea and the legal drinking age reverted back to 21.
>>
>And that has got to do with _control_ exactly what ?
>Take your time ...

Are you that big of a dimwit? We had control over local issues so we
could change the drinking age in California and we did. However we
couldn't change any war policies, plus we had to comply with the draft
or leave the country.

Welcome to my kill file, ass hole.

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<sf> wrote in message ...
> On Sun, 4 Nov 2007 11:45:21 -0500, "cybercat" >
> wrote:
>
>>Why not go in spring?
>
> A little thing called "work". Off season travel won't be a
> possibility for a couple more years. When I travel, I spend more time
> than most people do. Just going up the west coast to canada took over
> 2 weeks this summer. If I go to Italy, I will spend at least a month
> traveling.

Longer time helps to keep the airline costs to time ratio a bit better. When
I went this past spring, I paid $610 per person for ticket, Orbitz fee, and
cancellation insurance. Booking today for that same time frame is $1400

Off season can also save you about 25% on lodging costs too.

<sf> schrieb im Newsbeitrag ...
> On Sun, 4 Nov 2007 20:30:15 +0100, "Michael Kuettner"
> > wrote:
>
>>> CA had a few years during the Viet Nam Conflict era
>>> when the drinking age was lowered to age 18. We discovered it wasn't
>>> a good idea and the legal drinking age reverted back to 21.
>>>
>>And that has got to do with _control_ exactly what ?
>>Take your time ...
>
> Are you that big of a dimwit?

Says the dumb Merkin ...
Rather funny, if it wasn't so sad ...

> We had control over local issues so we

Ah, "control over local issues" is done how ?
By passing laws ...

That's what _you_ wrote :
"
California already tried that idea, remember? It wasn't a good one.
We can't control Iraq and we couldn't control the Viet Nam conflict,
but we *can* control our alcohol laws.
"
Clue :

You _pass_ laws to _control_ society. Then they're _enforced_.
The _control_ of the laws rests with your supreme court, AFAIK.


> could change the drinking age in California and we did. However we
> couldn't change any war policies, plus we had to comply with the draft
> or leave the country.
>
> Welcome to my kill file, ass hole.
>
Go shove a Whiskey-bottle up your **** and whistle the "Stars & Stripes".

sf wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Nov 2007 21:12:12 -0600, "jmcquown" >
> wrote:
>
>> But as I said, I'm not a big fan of pizza.
>
> Which makes me wonder why you bother with it.
> I wouldn't.

As I mentioned in chat, some times I get lazy and just want something I can
throw in the oven. I'm not opposed to pizza, it's just not my number one
"oooh, I can have pizza!" thing. I eat pizza maybe 4 times a year.

Jill

sf wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Nov 2007 19:47:32 -0600, "jmcquown" >
> wrote:
>
>> But then, I'm not really a big fan of pizza.
>
> Any pizza or prepared pizza?

*Any* pizza. I know people who live for take-out pizza or frozen pizza.
Pizza, pizza, pizza. Every weekend. I just don't get it.

I've made homemade pizza a few times. I've made thick crust, thin crust.
Topped with a variety of things from meats to purely vegetables, red sauce
to white cheese sauce. Pizza is okay but to eat it every weekend? Nope. A
couple of times a year works for me

Jill

On Nov 4, 1:06 pm, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 4 Nov 2007 18:38:28 +0100, "Michael Kuettner"
>
>
>
> > wrote:
>
> ><sf> schrieb
> >> Bobo Bonobo® wrote:
>
> >>>Eighteen year olds are also adults for the purposes of being subjected
> >>>to capital punishment, or going over to Iraq to get their appendages
> >>>blown off, but they aren't allowed to consume beer.
>
> >> California already tried that idea, remember? It wasn't a good one.
> >> We can't control Iraq and we couldn't control the Viet Nam conflict,
> >> but we *can* control our alcohol laws.
>
> >Of course. Can you spell "Prohibition" ?
> >Strict alcohol law that made the Mafia rich.
> >But somehow I fail to see "control" in this scenario ...
>
> Go back to class. CA had a few years during the Viet Nam Conflict era
> when the drinking age was lowered to age 18. We discovered it wasn't
> a good idea and the legal drinking age reverted back to 21.
>

The Viet Nam Conflict showed how FU(KING STUPID 18-20 YOs were. They
fought for the USA, instead of turning the guns around on the fascist
USA military.
Viet Nam vets were CHUMPS. A working class kid who went to fight for
Capitalism was as stupid as a Jew fighting for Nazism.

My point was, if so many *kids* are too immature to be able to handle
a beer, how do we expect them to make responsible choices on military
service, or to be responsible for violence NOT condoned by the war
criminals at the Pentagon?

The working class boys were fooled into fighting for Capitalism, while
the sons of the rich stayed home, safe on college deferments, and you
can bet that the sons of the rich were getting their dicks wet with
the daughters of the working class, while their brothers were getting
their dicks shot off, fighting for a system that privileged the rich
boys who were getting BJs from the girls who had written the soldiers
"Dear John letters."

--Bryan

Michael Kuettner wrote:
> <sf> schrieb
>> Bobo Bonobo® wrote:
>>
>>> Eighteen year olds are also adults for the purposes of being
>>> subjected to capital punishment, or going over to Iraq to get their
>>> appendages blown off, but they aren't allowed to consume beer.
>>
>> California already tried that idea, remember? It wasn't a good one.
>> We can't control Iraq and we couldn't control the Viet Nam conflict,
>> but we *can* control our alcohol laws.
>>
> Of course. Can you spell "Prohibition" ?
> Strict alcohol law that made the Mafia rich.
> But somehow I fail to see "control" in this scenario ...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Michael Kuettner

I thought we were talking about rather bad pizza? What does Iraq have to do
with it?!

Jill

Michael Kuettner wrote:
> "ravenlynne" > schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> ...
>> Michael Kuettner wrote:
>>>> June was ok this year. The rest was awful.
>>>>
>>> It was wonderful up here (between Venice and Ravenna).
>>
>> July and August were hellish down here in the South. No wonder all of the
>> locals go out of town for the entirety of August.
>>
> Yep; I've met them on the way to the mountains ;-P
>
>>> OBfood : Buittoni offers a frozen pizza "American Style".
>>> I haven't had the nerve to try it.
>>>
>>
>> I can only imagine. I've been less than impressed by the american style pizza
>> that I've sen around, namely Galleria Umberto. Hot dogs and french fry pizza
>> anyone?
>>
> Haven't seen Galleria Umberto in NItaly.
> Is this a larger company like Buittoni or Parmalat ?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Michael Kuettner
>
>
>
>
>

No it's a mall...there's a pizzeria inside...It's near the royal palace
in the city.

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-Gina in Italy

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I'm a blogger: http://ravenwolflodge.blogspot.com

sf wrote:
> On Sun, 4 Nov 2007 18:38:28 +0100, "Michael Kuettner"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> <sf> schrieb
>>> Bobo Bonobo® wrote:
>>>
>>>> Eighteen year olds are also adults for the purposes of being
>>>> subjected to capital punishment, or going over to Iraq to get
>>>> their appendages blown off, but they aren't allowed to consume
>>>> beer.
>>>
>>> California already tried that idea, remember? It wasn't a good one.
>>> We can't control Iraq and we couldn't control the Viet Nam conflict,
>>> but we *can* control our alcohol laws.
>>>
>> Of course. Can you spell "Prohibition" ?
>> Strict alcohol law that made the Mafia rich.
>> But somehow I fail to see "control" in this scenario ...
>>
> Go back to class. CA had a few years during the Viet Nam Conflict era
> when the drinking age was lowered to age 18. We discovered it wasn't
> a good idea and the legal drinking age reverted back to 21.

The legal drinking age here was 18 in the 1970's. California isn't the be
all end all of everything, you know Then they raised it to 19. Then
later, 21. These days 21 is still not old enough. Kids seem to have gotten
more stupid. When I was 21 I was married and worked and went to school full
time. These days, they do what? Thankfully (and by choice) I was not
popping out babies. But we realized we weren't still in high school. 21
year olds these days seem to think they are still going to go to the prom.
They are rude, crude and overall not very responsible for anything. Sorry,
not unless you're dating your teacher. Oops, that seems to happen a lot
these days, too.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,307845,00.html

Jill

On Nov 5, 4:53 am, "jmcquown" > wrote:
>
>
> The legal drinking age here was 18 in the 1970's. California isn't the be
> all end all of everything, you know Then they raised it to 19. Then
> later, 21. These days 21 is still not old enough.

Easy for a dried up old *%^# like you to write, considering you're
well past that age.
>
> Jill

--Bryan

On Nov 5, 4:53 am, "jmcquown" > wrote:
> sf wrote:
> > On Sun, 4 Nov 2007 18:38:28 +0100, "Michael Kuettner"
> > > wrote:
>
> >> <sf> schrieb
> >>> Bobo Bonobo® wrote:
>
> >>>> Eighteen year olds are also adults for the purposes of being
> >>>> subjected to capital punishment, or going over to Iraq to get
> >>>> their appendages blown off, but they aren't allowed to consume
> >>>> beer.
>
> >>> California already tried that idea, remember? It wasn't a good one.
> >>> We can't control Iraq and we couldn't control the Viet Nam conflict,
> >>> but we *can* control our alcohol laws.
>
> >> Of course. Can you spell "Prohibition" ?
> >> Strict alcohol law that made the Mafia rich.
> >> But somehow I fail to see "control" in this scenario ...
>
> > Go back to class. CA had a few years during the Viet Nam Conflict era
> > when the drinking age was lowered to age 18. We discovered it wasn't
> > a good idea and the legal drinking age reverted back to 21.
>
> The legal drinking age here was 18 in the 1970's. California isn't the be
> all end all of everything, you know Then they raised it to 19. Then
> later, 21. These days 21 is still not old enough. Kids seem to have gotten
> more stupid. When I was 21 I was married and worked and went to school full
> time. These days, they do what? Thankfully (and by choice) I was not
> popping out babies. But we realized we weren't still in high school. 21
> year olds these days seem to think they are still going to go to the prom.
> They are rude, crude and overall not very responsible for anything. Sorry,
> not unless you're dating your teacher. Oops, that seems to happen a lot
> these days, too.
>
> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,307845,00.html

When I was 13, I would have jumped at the chance to "date" a female
teacher, as long as it was the right one (not the one in the
picture). I would not have left the country, or anything stupid like
that, but I'd have been even less likely to rat the hypothetical
teacher out than I would have been to rat out a guy who sold me a bag
(of weed).
>
> Jill

--Bryan
"Guys who kiss and tell end up doing a lot more telling than kissing."

On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 04:53:35 -0600, "jmcquown" >
wrote:

>The legal drinking age here was 18 in the 1970's. California isn't the be
>all end all of everything, you know Then they raised it to 19. Then
>later, 21. These days 21 is still not old enough.

I mentioned CA because that's where I live and so does he. There are
probably still states where the drinking age is 18. If 18 year olds
wants to drink legally while fighting an old man's war, they can move
there.

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On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 02:10:46 -0600, "jmcquown" >
wrote:

>I thought we were talking about rather bad pizza? What does Iraq have to do
>with it?!

Keep up, Jill. He was talking about the legal ages to drink and to be
inducted (or *drafted* back in my day).

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sf wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 04:53:35 -0600, "jmcquown" >
> wrote:
>
>> The legal drinking age here was 18 in the 1970's. California isn't the be
>> all end all of everything, you know Then they raised it to 19. Then
>> later, 21. These days 21 is still not old enough.
>
> I mentioned CA because that's where I live and so does he. There are
> probably still states where the drinking age is 18. If 18 year olds
> wants to drink legally while fighting an old man's war, they can move
> there.
>
No, all states are now 21 and have been for quite a while because the
Dept. of Transportation or something threatened to withhold road
building funds back on any state that didn't follow that edict. I think
this went into effect back in the 80's or so??

ravenlynne schrieb
> Michael Kuettner wrote:
>> ravenlynne schrieb
>>> Michael Kuettner wrote:
>>>>> June was ok this year. The rest was awful.
>>>>>
>>>> It was wonderful up here (between Venice and Ravenna).
>>>
>>> July and August were hellish down here in the South. No wonder all of the
>>> locals go out of town for the entirety of August.
>>>
>> Yep; I've met them on the way to the mountains ;-P
>>
>>>> OBfood : Buittoni offers a frozen pizza "American Style".
>>>> I haven't had the nerve to try it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I can only imagine. I've been less than impressed by the american style
>>> pizza that I've sen around, namely Galleria Umberto. Hot dogs and french
>>> fry pizza anyone?
>>>
>> Haven't seen Galleria Umberto in NItaly.
>> Is this a larger company like Buittoni or Parmalat ?
>>
>
> No it's a mall...there's a pizzeria inside...It's near the royal palace in the
> city.
>
Ah, thank you.
Do they also do Spaghetti-Pizza (pizza with spaghetti Bolognese
on top) ? <shudder>
I've also seen a sauerkraut pizza ...

Cheers,

Michael Kuettner

sf wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 04:53:35 -0600, "jmcquown" >
> wrote:
>
>> The legal drinking age here was 18 in the 1970's. California isn't
>> the be all end all of everything, you know Then they raised it
>> to 19. Then later, 21. These days 21 is still not old enough.
>
> I mentioned CA because that's where I live and so does he. There are
> probably still states where the drinking age is 18. If 18 year olds
> wants to drink legally while fighting an old man's war, they can move
> there.

There are still also states (okay, counties within states) that are carrying
on the Prohibition thing. You can't buy Jack Daniels in Lynchburg, TN where
they distill it. What kind of sense does that make?!

In Jonesboro, Arkansas, you have to buy beer or liquor by the drink in an
approved "club" (which you have to pay to join). They are ridiculous laws
designed to control every aspect of peoples' lives by "churchgoing folk".

Jill

sf wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 02:10:46 -0600, "jmcquown" >
> wrote:
>
>> I thought we were talking about rather bad pizza? What does Iraq
>> have to do with it?!
>
> Keep up, Jill. He was talking about the legal ages to drink and to be
> inducted (or *drafted* back in my day).

Doonesbury dealt with the draft thing rather effectively. I remember
cutting out the comic from the newspaper. Handled by the post office? Oh,
then there's nothing to worry about

Jill

jmcquown wrote:

> In Jonesboro, Arkansas, you have to buy beer or liquor by the drink in an
> approved "club" (which you have to pay to join). They are ridiculous laws
> designed to control every aspect of peoples' lives by "churchgoing folk".
>
> Jill

Perhaps, but perhaps also by the state or local tax folks?

jmcquown said...

> sf wrote:
>> On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 04:53:35 -0600, "jmcquown" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The legal drinking age here was 18 in the 1970's. California isn't
>>> the be all end all of everything, you know Then they raised it
>>> to 19. Then later, 21. These days 21 is still not old enough.
>>
>> I mentioned CA because that's where I live and so does he. There are
>> probably still states where the drinking age is 18. If 18 year olds
>> wants to drink legally while fighting an old man's war, they can move
>> there.
>
> There are still also states (okay, counties within states) that are
> carrying on the Prohibition thing. You can't buy Jack Daniels in
> Lynchburg, TN where they distill it. What kind of sense does that
> make?!


So they give it away???


> In Jonesboro, Arkansas, you have to buy beer or liquor by the drink in
> an approved "club" (which you have to pay to join). They are ridiculous
> laws designed to control every aspect of peoples' lives by "churchgoing
> folk".
>
> Jill


In and around Philadelphia, PA, there are afterhours clubs for the benefit of
bar and restaurant staff to tie a few on after the bars close at 2am.

My ex and I went to one. We were only allowed entrance by the generosity of
the bartender where we were drinking, saying tell 'em I (name) sent you. And
we were let in. It was a 4 story building with a theme on each floor. First
floor, bar and video games. Second floor, bar and tables to chat. Third floor
bar and dancing. Fourth floor bar and pool tables. No windows and only one
entrance. Can you say fire hazard.

They closed at 6am or 8am, or whatever time the regular bars open. You could
keep a 24-hour drunk if you didn't pass out first.

Never set foot in one again.

Andy

On Nov 5, 12:23 pm, "jmcquown" > wrote:
> sf wrote:
> > On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 04:53:35 -0600, "jmcquown" >
> > wrote:
>
> >> The legal drinking age here was 18 in the 1970's. California isn't
> >> the be all end all of everything, you know Then they raised it
> >> to 19. Then later, 21. These days 21 is still not old enough.
>
> > I mentioned CA because that's where I live and so does he. There are
> > probably still states where the drinking age is 18. If 18 year olds
> > wants to drink legally while fighting an old man's war, they can move
> > there.
>
> There are still also states (okay, counties within states) that are carrying
> on the Prohibition thing. You can't buy Jack Daniels in Lynchburg, TN where
> they distill it. What kind of sense does that make?!
>
> In Jonesboro, Arkansas, you have to buy beer or liquor by the drink in an
> approved "club" (which you have to pay to join). They are ridiculous laws
> designed to control every aspect of peoples' lives by "churchgoing folk".

There are the ridiculous 21 YO drinking ages advocated by people like
YOU.
>
> Jill

--Bryan

On Nov 4, 12:56 pm, ravenlynne > wrote:

> I can only imagine. I've been less than impressed by the american style
> pizza that I've sen around, namely Galleria Umberto. Hot dogs and
> french fry pizza anyone?
>
> --
> -Gina in Italy
>
>

There is a whole-in-the-wall pizza place in the North End (of Boston)
called the Galleria Umberto. Awesome pizza - it's square. Does that
make it Sicilian? There is always a line and they close when they run
out of food. They sell pizza, calzone, those fried, stuffed rice
balls (arancini?) and a potate croquette type thing. I forget what
it's called. All good stuff.

-Tracy

Michael Kuettner wrote:
> ravenlynne schrieb
>> Michael Kuettner wrote:
>>> ravenlynne schrieb
>>>> Michael Kuettner wrote:
>>>>>> June was ok this year. The rest was awful.
>>>>>>
>>>>> It was wonderful up here (between Venice and Ravenna).
>>>> July and August were hellish down here in the South. No wonder all of the
>>>> locals go out of town for the entirety of August.
>>>>
>>> Yep; I've met them on the way to the mountains ;-P
>>>
>>>>> OBfood : Buittoni offers a frozen pizza "American Style".
>>>>> I haven't had the nerve to try it.
>>>>>
>>>> I can only imagine. I've been less than impressed by the american style
>>>> pizza that I've sen around, namely Galleria Umberto. Hot dogs and french
>>>> fry pizza anyone?
>>>>
>>> Haven't seen Galleria Umberto in NItaly.
>>> Is this a larger company like Buittoni or Parmalat ?
>>>
>> No it's a mall...there's a pizzeria inside...It's near the royal palace in the
>> city.
>>
> Ah, thank you.
> Do they also do Spaghetti-Pizza (pizza with spaghetti Bolognese
> on top) ? <shudder>
> I've also seen a sauerkraut pizza ...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Michael Kuettner
>

No just different varieties of the basic red sauce/cheese. I think one
of them had corn on it.


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-Gina in Italy

http://www.myspace.com/ravenlynne1975
I'm a blogger: http://ravenwolflodge.blogspot.com

jmcquown wrote:

> In Jonesboro, Arkansas, you have to buy beer or liquor by the drink in an
> approved "club" (which you have to pay to join). They are ridiculous laws
> designed to control every aspect of peoples' lives by "churchgoing folk".

The God Squad at work.

Becca