Did you all know that "Product of the U.S.A." or "Product of Canada" on your
cans and plastic bags, could just mean that the can or plastic bag was made
in the country; or that the contents were just "processed" in these
countries. The reason I am concerned is that I want to know that some
contents in my cans are not coming from China. The Chinese Government is
allowing raw sewage, and untreated effluents from their many factories, to
flow into their streams; the water from which is used to irrigate their
crops. Now we should all know by now (what with the dog food, tainted toys,
lead in lipsticks, etc.) that their codes and ethics are not up to scratch.
But to think that the USA & Canadian Governments are condoning these foods
be included in cans marked "Product of USA" or Canada, is extremely
deceitful. Just check with the customer service 'phone numbers on your cans
or plastic bags, and they will verify that the contents could be from (or
processed)anywhere in the world. And even fish could be caught off Russia,
shipped and processed in China, then shipped and packaged back in USA or
Canada -- yuck! What with our dogs being poisoned, I am now wondering
whether our children are too?

--

Pinetree wrote:
> Did you all know that "Product of the U.S.A." or "Product of Canada"
> on your cans and plastic bags, could just mean that the can or
> plastic bag was made in the country; or that the contents were just
> "processed" in these countries.

Really? Could you post the source for that info?
--
Dave
www.davebbq.com

"Dave Bugg" > wrote in message
...
> Pinetree wrote:
> > Did you all know that "Product of the U.S.A." or "Product of Canada"
> > on your cans and plastic bags, could just mean that the can or
> > plastic bag was made in the country; or that the contents were just
> > "processed" in these countries.
>
> Really? Could you post the source for that info?
> --
> Dave
> www.davebbq.com
>
> Confirmed by several major grocery stores' customer service (they really
cannot lie to you), and also I am presently staying in Canada and saw the
whole program on www.cbc.ca/marketplace two weeks ago. Some people have been
trying to change this devious practice in the USA for twenty years (!!!) I
just found out by 'phoning the USA, but of course the Governments really
don't care. All of this can easily be confirmed by your government, or by
the head office of your local grocery stores (just telephone the toll-free
numbers on your cans and packages). You would have to give them the numbers
of the bar codes on said items. (And of course, if the plastic bag actually
says "grown and processed at such and such farms", then I suppose that's
true. Otherwise, its well known it seems by everyone but us poor gullibles
buying the products. I 'phoned Campbells also, and they assured me that they
use North American produce and process their own -- nothing Chinese they
say, so I believe them. But many, many others said their produce was from
anywhere in the world. As I said, we are what we eat - but what exactly are
we eating these days??? I suppose the motto is: you can fool most of the
people all of the time!

Pinetree wrote:
> Did you all know that "Product of the U.S.A." or "Product of Canada" on your
> cans and plastic bags, could just mean that the can or plastic bag was made
> in the country; or that the contents were just "processed" in these
> countries. The reason I am concerned is that I want to know that some
> contents in my cans are not coming from China. The Chinese Government is
> allowing raw sewage, and untreated effluents from their many factories, to
> flow into their streams; the water from which is used to irrigate their
> crops. Now we should all know by now (what with the dog food, tainted toys,
> lead in lipsticks, etc.) that their codes and ethics are not up to scratch.
> But to think that the USA & Canadian Governments are condoning these foods
> be included in cans marked "Product of USA" or Canada, is extremely
> deceitful. Just check with the customer service 'phone numbers on your cans
> or plastic bags, and they will verify that the contents could be from (or
> processed)anywhere in the world. And even fish could be caught off Russia,
> shipped and processed in China, then shipped and packaged back in USA or
> Canada -- yuck! What with our dogs being poisoned, I am now wondering
> whether our children are too?
>
> --

Poison is Chinese for stop eating prepared foods.

"Pinetree" > wrote in message
news:lDKXi.9748$h57.1447@edtnps89...
>
> "Dave Bugg" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Pinetree wrote:
>> > Did you all know that "Product of the U.S.A." or "Product of Canada"
>> > on your cans and plastic bags, could just mean that the can or
>> > plastic bag was made in the country; or that the contents were just
>> > "processed" in these countries.
>>
>> Really? Could you post the source for that info?
>> --
>> Dave
>> www.davebbq.com
>>
>> Confirmed by several major grocery stores' customer service (they really
> cannot lie to you), and also I am presently staying in Canada and saw the
> whole program on www.cbc.ca/marketplace two weeks ago. Some people have
> been
> trying to change this devious practice in the USA for twenty years (!!!) I
> just found out by 'phoning the USA, but of course the Governments really
> don't care. All of this can easily be confirmed by your government, or by
> the head office of your local grocery stores (just telephone the toll-free
> numbers on your cans and packages). You would have to give them the
> numbers
> of the bar codes on said items. (And of course, if the plastic bag
> actually
> says "grown and processed at such and such farms", then I suppose that's
> true. Otherwise, its well known it seems by everyone but us poor gullibles
> buying the products. I 'phoned Campbells also, and they assured me that
> they
> use North American produce and process their own -- nothing Chinese they
> say, so I believe them. But many, many others said their produce was from
> anywhere in the world. As I said, we are what we eat - but what exactly
> are
> we eating these days??? I suppose the motto is: you can fool most of the
> people all of the time!
>

I've oft wondered about the fact that people vacation in Mexico and say "I
never eat fresh produce there, THO."

Do they eat the produce here that says, "Product of Mexico."

JOKINGLY!, Or does it just mean that the cardboard box in which the produce
was packed, was the 'product of mexico"?

Dee Dee

Pinetree wrote:
> "Dave Bugg" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Pinetree wrote:
>>> Did you all know that "Product of the U.S.A." or "Product of Canada"
>>> on your cans and plastic bags, could just mean that the can or
>>> plastic bag was made in the country; or that the contents were just
>>> "processed" in these countries.
>>
>> Really? Could you post the source for that info?
>> --
>> Dave
>> www.davebbq.com
>>

> Confirmed by several major grocery stores' customer service (they
>> really
> cannot lie to you),

Which ones? And how would a grocery store know anything about the source of
ingredients in the production of a product? Just on a lark, I called
Safeway, and they hadn't a clue. I also called my rep at Sysco, and he said
that all their food products are labled with the country of origin.

> and also I am presently staying in Canada and saw
> the whole program on www.cbc.ca/marketplace two weeks ago.

You'll excuse me if I need more specifics of what the program actually said.
Any links to a transcript or an online excerpt?

> Some
> people have been trying to change this devious practice in the USA
> for twenty years (!!!)

Who?

> I just found out by 'phoning the USA,

Any particular phone number?

> but of
> course the Governments really don't care. ... snip.

This is when my skeptics antenna goes up. I just called the USDA and was
forwarded to the Marketing and Regulatory Programs division and spoke with
Deputy Chief Information Officer Angela Thompson (202-720-1237, in case you
want to call). What she said was that if a product is labled as being
produced in a specific country, then the major 'constituency' of that
product is from where the product was produced.

She stated that since certain minor ingredients in a product, like spices,
may originate outside of the country of origin. This is because most
countries do not grow their own spices.

I don't see any major issue here.

--
Dave
www.davebbq.com

Pinetree wrote:

>
> "Dave Bugg" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Pinetree wrote:
> > > Did you all know that "Product of the U.S.A." or "Product of
> > > Canada" on your cans and plastic bags, could just mean that the
> > > can or plastic bag was made in the country; or that the contents
> > > were just "processed" in these countries.
> >
> > Really? Could you post the source for that info?
> > --
> > Dave
> > www.davebbq.com
> >
> > Confirmed by several major grocery stores' customer service (they
> > really
> cannot lie to you), and also I am presently staying in Canada and saw
> the whole program on www.cbc.ca/marketplace two weeks ago. Some
> people have been trying to change this devious practice in the USA
> for twenty years (!!!) I just found out by 'phoning the USA, but of
> course the Governments really don't care. All of this can easily be
> confirmed by your government, or by the head office of your local
> grocery stores (just telephone the toll-free numbers on your cans and
> packages).

Then CONFIRM IT. You've been asked to back up what you've said, and
you're not really doing so.


You would have to give them the numbers of the bar codes
> on said items. (And of course, if the plastic bag actually says
> "grown and processed at such and such farms", then I suppose that's
> true. Otherwise, its well known it seems by everyone but us poor
> gullibles buying the products. I 'phoned Campbells also, and they
> assured me that they use North American produce and process their own
> -- nothing Chinese they say, so I believe them. But many, many others
> said their produce was from anywhere in the world. As I said, we are
> what we eat - but what exactly are we eating these days??? I suppose
> the motto is: you can fool most of the people all of the time!



--
Dan Goodman
"You, each of you, have some special wild cards. Play with them.
Find out what makes you different and better. Because it is there,
if only you can find it." Vernor Vinge, _Rainbows End_
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"Pinetree" > wrote in message
news:37KXi.4198$8S5.1478@edtnps82...
> Did you all know that "Product of the U.S.A." or "Product of Canada" on
> your
> cans and plastic bags, could just mean that the can or plastic bag was
> made
> in the country; or that the contents were just "processed" in these
> countries. The reason I am concerned is that I want to know that some
> contents in my cans are not coming from China. The Chinese Government is
> allowing raw sewage, and untreated effluents from their many factories, to
> flow into their streams; the water from which is used to irrigate their
> crops. Now we should all know by now (what with the dog food, tainted
> toys,
> lead in lipsticks, etc.) that their codes and ethics are not up to
> scratch.
> But to think that the USA & Canadian Governments are condoning these foods
> be included in cans marked "Product of USA" or Canada, is extremely
> deceitful. Just check with the customer service 'phone numbers on your
> cans
> or plastic bags, and they will verify that the contents could be from (or
> processed)anywhere in the world. And even fish could be caught off Russia,
> shipped and processed in China, then shipped and packaged back in USA or
> Canada -- yuck! What with our dogs being poisoned, I am now wondering
> whether our children are too?
>
> --
>
>
>
>

Dave Bugg wrote:
>
>> I just found out by 'phoning the USA,
>
> Any particular phone number?

ROFL! It's 867-5309....

Really...how does one "call the us"?


--
-Gina in Italy

http://www.myspace.com/ravenlynne1975
I'm a blogger: http://ravenwolflodge.blogspot.com

Sarah Gray wrote:
> ravenlynne wrote:
>> Dave Bugg wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just found out by 'phoning the USA,
>>>
>>> Any particular phone number?
>>
>> ROFL! It's 867-5309....
>>
>> Really...how does one "call the us"?
>>
>>
>
>
> "hey! you guys!"
>

:guffaw:

--
-Gina in Italy

http://www.myspace.com/ravenlynne1975
I'm a blogger: http://ravenwolflodge.blogspot.com

ravenlynne wrote:
> Dave Bugg wrote:
>>
>>> I just found out by 'phoning the USA,
>>
>> Any particular phone number?
>
> ROFL! It's 867-5309....
>
> Really...how does one "call the us"?
>
>


"hey! you guys!"

--

Sarah Gray

On Nov 5, 3:17 pm, "Dave Bugg" > wrote:
> Pinetree wrote:
> > "Dave Bugg" > wrote in message
> ...
[Pinetree:]
> > and also I am presently staying in Canada and saw
> > the whole program onwww.cbc.ca/marketplacetwo weeks ago.
[Dave Bugg:]
> You'll excuse me if I need more specifics of what the program actually said.
> Any links to a transcript or an online excerpt?

This must be the program he was talking about:

<http://www.cbc.ca/marketplace/product_of_canada_eh/>

In case anyone wants the details.

--
Daphne

On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 13:17:35 -0800, "Dave Bugg" >
wrote:

>Pinetree wrote:
>> "Dave Bugg" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Pinetree wrote:
>>>> Did you all know that "Product of the U.S.A." or "Product of Canada"
>>>> on your cans and plastic bags, could just mean that the can or
>>>> plastic bag was made in the country; or that the contents were just
>>>> "processed" in these countries.
>>>
>>> Really? Could you post the source for that info?
>>> --
>>> Dave
>>> www.davebbq.com
>>>
>
>> Confirmed by several major grocery stores' customer service (they
>>> really
>> cannot lie to you),
>
>Which ones? And how would a grocery store know anything about the source of
>ingredients in the production of a product? Just on a lark, I called
>Safeway, and they hadn't a clue. I also called my rep at Sysco, and he said
>that all their food products are labled with the country of origin.
>
>> and also I am presently staying in Canada and saw
>> the whole program on www.cbc.ca/marketplace two weeks ago.
>
>You'll excuse me if I need more specifics of what the program actually said.
>Any links to a transcript or an online excerpt?
>
>> Some
>> people have been trying to change this devious practice in the USA
>> for twenty years (!!!)
>
>Who?
>
>> I just found out by 'phoning the USA,
>
>Any particular phone number?
>
>> but of
>> course the Governments really don't care. ... snip.
>
>This is when my skeptics antenna goes up. I just called the USDA and was
>forwarded to the Marketing and Regulatory Programs division and spoke with
>Deputy Chief Information Officer Angela Thompson (202-720-1237, in case you
>want to call). What she said was that if a product is labled as being
>produced in a specific country, then the major 'constituency' of that
>product is from where the product was produced.
>
>She stated that since certain minor ingredients in a product, like spices,
>may originate outside of the country of origin. This is because most
>countries do not grow their own spices.
>
>I don't see any major issue here.

pinetree's post made the needle on my bullshit meter spin as well.

your pal,
blake

On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 08:44:45 +0200, ravenlynne >
wrote:

>Dave Bugg wrote:
>>
>>> I just found out by 'phoning the USA,
>>
>> Any particular phone number?
>
>ROFL! It's 867-5309....
>
>Really...how does one "call the us"?

you yell 'hey y'all' really loud. i don't know if this works in
italian.

your pal,
blake

"blake murphy" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 08:44:45 +0200, ravenlynne >
> wrote:
>
>>Dave Bugg wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just found out by 'phoning the USA,
>>>
>>> Any particular phone number?
>>
>>ROFL! It's 867-5309....
>>
>>Really...how does one "call the us"?
>
> you yell 'hey y'all' really loud. i don't know if this works in
> italian.
>
> your pal,
> blake


It doesn't work in the New England states.
Dee Dee

"Dee.Dee" > wrote in message
...
>
> "blake murphy" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 08:44:45 +0200, ravenlynne >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Dave Bugg wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I just found out by 'phoning the USA,
>>>>
>>>> Any particular phone number?
>>>
>>>ROFL! It's 867-5309....
>>>
>>>Really...how does one "call the us"?
>>
>> you yell 'hey y'all' really loud. i don't know if this works in
>> italian.
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>
>
> It doesn't work in the New England states.

Nope, it's You Guys there.

Cindi

> Dee Dee
>

Cindi - HappyMamatoThree wrote:
> "Dee.Dee" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "blake murphy" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 08:44:45 +0200, ravenlynne >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dave Bugg wrote:
>>>>>> I just found out by 'phoning the USA,
>>>>> Any particular phone number?
>>>> ROFL! It's 867-5309....
>>>>
>>>> Really...how does one "call the us"?
>>> you yell 'hey y'all' really loud. i don't know if this works in
>>> italian.
>>>
>>> your pal,
>>> blake
>>
>> It doesn't work in the New England states.
>
> Nope, it's You Guys there.

Youse guys.

--
-Gina in Italy

http://www.myspace.com/ravenlynne1975
I'm a blogger: http://ravenwolflodge.blogspot.com

"ravenlynne" > wrote in message
...
> Cindi - HappyMamatoThree wrote:
>> "Dee.Dee" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "blake murphy" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 08:44:45 +0200, ravenlynne >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dave Bugg wrote:
>>>>>>> I just found out by 'phoning the USA,
>>>>>> Any particular phone number?
>>>>> ROFL! It's 867-5309....
>>>>>
>>>>> Really...how does one "call the us"?
>>>> you yell 'hey y'all' really loud. i don't know if this works in
>>>> italian.
>>>>
>>>> your pal,
>>>> blake
>>>
>>> It doesn't work in the New England states.
>>
>> Nope, it's You Guys there.
>
> Youse guys.
>
> --
> -Gina in Italy


I'd never heard of "youse" until I heard it here from a certain person
whilst demeaning Italians. Perhaps it's used only in some NY areas?

Dee Dee

Dee.Dee wrote:
> I'd never heard of "youse" until I heard it here from a certain person
> whilst demeaning Italians. Perhaps it's used only in some NY areas?

and a lot of Scots

On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 14:28:48 -0500, "Dee.Dee" >
wrote:

>
>"blake murphy" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 08:44:45 +0200, ravenlynne >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Dave Bugg wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I just found out by 'phoning the USA,
>>>>
>>>> Any particular phone number?
>>>
>>>ROFL! It's 867-5309....
>>>
>>>Really...how does one "call the us"?
>>
>> you yell 'hey y'all' really loud. i don't know if this works in
>> italian.
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>
>
>It doesn't work in the New England states.
>Dee Dee
>

pffft. everyone knows new englanders are not real americans anyway.

your pal,
blake

"blake murphy" > wrote in message
...
> pffft. everyone knows new englanders are not real americans anyway.
>
> your pal,
> blake


Tell that to the New Englanders. And you'll find out what reaction you'll
get.

They'll turn their backs on you, sniff their nose up in the air, and walk
away.

Dee Dee,
Married to a Connecticut Yankee for 35 years

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> Dee.Dee wrote:
>> I'd never heard of "youse" until I heard it here from a certain person
>> whilst demeaning Italians. Perhaps it's used only in some NY areas?
>
> and a lot of Scots
>

Didn't know that -- I'll have to watch for it in my next Scots' movie.
(Can't understand the spoken language unless I have the 'English for hearing
impaired' button clicked.) I'll have to look at the translation, too.
Thanks. :-))

Dee Dee

Dee.Dee wrote:
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Dee.Dee wrote:
>>> I'd never heard of "youse" until I heard it here from a certain
>>> person whilst demeaning Italians. Perhaps it's used only in some
>>> NY areas?
>>
>> and a lot of Scots
>>
>
> Didn't know that -- I'll have to watch for it in my next Scots' movie.
> (Can't understand the spoken language unless I have the 'English for
> hearing impaired' button clicked.) I'll have to look at the
> translation, too. Thanks. :-))

Can't say I have ever heard it used in any film, just from the people.