Hello All,

Does anybody know a place in North America that sells me a small ham
mold? I think ham mold is the right translation, but maybe not.

Here are some links with pictures of what I'm looking for...
http://www.schalleraustria.com/de/ve...b4edeff2ca3bef
http://www.hausschlachtebedarf.de/pr...6c01/index.php
http://www.gastropolis24.de/c-688_69...Schinkenkocher

Thank You in advanced for any answers.

Markus Schulz

> > Does anybody know a place in North America that sells me a small ham
> > mold? I think ham mold is the right translation, but maybe not.
> >http://www.gastropolis24.de/c-688_69...Schinkenkocher
> There you go, Mark. Maybe you can make a profit off that eBay
> find.
At gastropolis24 page: NEW Schinkenkocher C 4-5 KG ab 55,29 Euros =
79,965927 U.S. dollars...

US ebay: used ham mold for 149.00 U.S. dollars = 103.021503 Euros

No thank you! In this case I will order one in Germany.

If someone knows a store that sells a new ham mold in USA or Canada
for around 80 U.S. dollars please let me know.

Markus Schulz

On Nov 6, 8:04 am, Markus Schulz > wrote:
> > > Does anybody know a place in North America that sells me a small ham
> > > mold? I think ham mold is the right translation, but maybe not.
> > >http://www.gastropolis24.de/c-688_69...Schinkenkocher
> > There you go, Mark. Maybe you can make a profit off that eBay
> > find.
>
> At gastropolis24 page: NEW Schinkenkocher C 4-5 KG ab 55,29 Euros =
> 79,965927 U.S. dollars...
>
> US ebay: used ham mold for 149.00 U.S. dollars = 103.021503 Euros
>
> No thank you! In this case I will order one in Germany.
>
> If someone knows a store that sells a new ham mold in USA or Canada
> for around 80 U.S. dollars please let me know.
>
> Markus Schulz

Use Google to search for a "commercial terrine mold," and see what
pops up. Here's one source: http://tinyurl.com/2l22lp

N.

> > > > Does anybody know a place in North America that sells me a small ham
> > > > mold? I think ham mold is the right translation, but maybe not.

> Use Google to search for a "commercial terrine mold," and see what
> pops up. Here's one source: http://tinyurl.com/2l22lp

Thanks Nancy, but the terrine molds don't have the springs... this is
important for a good ham.

Markus

Mark Thorson wrote:

>> US ebay: used ham mold for 149.00 U.S. dollars = 103.021503 Euros
>
> I think Steve was referring to me. I have three spring-loaded
> meat presses that I bought on eBay. I don't think I spent more
> than $50 for any of them. They frequently show up on eBay,
> in a variety of sizes and shapes.

Haha!! good insider joke!

I just looked at ebay after his posting and found the used $150 mold...
and sometimes people call me Mark too.

Markus

Markus Schulz wrote:
> Mark Thorson wrote:
>
>>> US ebay: used ham mold for 149.00 U.S. dollars = 103.021503 Euros
>>
>> I think Steve was referring to me. I have three spring-loaded
>> meat presses that I bought on eBay. I don't think I spent more
>> than $50 for any of them. They frequently show up on eBay,
>> in a variety of sizes and shapes.
>
> Haha!! good insider joke!
>
> I just looked at ebay after his posting and found the used $150 mold...
> and sometimes people call me Mark too.
>

And I didn't understood "To the OP" part, because I don't know anything
about English/Usnet acronyms. Sorry.

> Markus

Markus Schulz > wrote in

> And I didn't understood "To the OP" part, because I don't know
> anything about English/Usnet acronyms. Sorry.
>
>> Markus

"Original poster" according to

http://silmaril.ie/cgi-bin/uncgi/acronyms

Mark Thorson wrote:
> I'm satisfied that was not done in any of my molds,
> or in the one case in which it may have been done
> it would have last been used prior to the introduction
> of the infectious agent for BSE to North America.

Is there any evidence that BSE spreads like this or is this just caution
on your side.

> appear on the U.S. eBay are from sellers in the UK
> or Australia. Shipping is a real killer on anything
> from Australia.

I guess I will use a eBay search agent to scan for molds in the USA and
CA. I looked now for 2 days on Google and send emails to stores. But
nobody has what I'm looking for. Like I said you get those all over
Europe... eBay Germany also has a some. But like you pointed out, over
seas shipping is not very reasonable.

Markus Schulz

Markus Schulz wrote:
>
> Mark Thorson wrote:
> > I'm satisfied that was not done in any of my molds,
> > or in the one case in which it may have been done
> > it would have last been used prior to the introduction
> > of the infectious agent for BSE to North America.
>
> Is there any evidence that BSE spreads like this or is this
> just caution on your side.

It's been shown that the infectious agent for BSE
cannot be killed at any temperature normally used
in cooking. Considering that head cheese may
contain cow brain, contamination of the mold is
a serious health safety concern.

Sqwertz wrote:
>
> On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:12:41 -0800, Mark Thorson wrote:
>
> > Mine were all used when bought, but I had no concern
> > about that -- except the possibility that cattle
> > brains may have been used to make a head cheese.
> > I'm satisfied that was not done in any of my molds,
> > or in the one case in which it may have been done
> > it would have last been used prior to the introduction
> > of the infectious agent for BSE to North America.
>
> I know you can't kill BSE by cooking, but can it be washed off of
> surfaces? I would suspect so.

There aren't any sterilization procedures which are
considered adequate to remove the CJD infectious
agent from instruments used in brain surgery.
Because there have been several cases of CJD
caused by cross-contamination between patients
through contaminated instruments, the standard
practice is to discard them after use.

Markus Schulz wrote:
>
> > > Does anybody know a place in North America that sells me a small ham
> > > mold? I think ham mold is the right translation, but maybe not.
> > >http://www.gastropolis24.de/c-688_69...Schinkenkocher
> > There you go, Mark. Maybe you can make a profit off that eBay
> > find.
> At gastropolis24 page: NEW Schinkenkocher C 4-5 KG ab 55,29 Euros =
> 79,965927 U.S. dollars...
>
> US ebay: used ham mold for 149.00 U.S. dollars = 103.021503 Euros

I think Steve was referring to me. I have three spring-loaded
meat presses that I bought on eBay. I don't think I spent more
than $50 for any of them. They frequently show up on eBay,
in a variety of sizes and shapes.

> No thank you! In this case I will order one in Germany.
>
> If someone knows a store that sells a new ham mold in USA or
> Canada for around 80 U.S. dollars please let me know.

Mine were all used when bought, but I had no concern
about that -- except the possibility that cattle
brains may have been used to make a head cheese.
I'm satisfied that was not done in any of my molds,
or in the one case in which it may have been done
it would have last been used prior to the introduction
of the infectious agent for BSE to North America.

I think you'd have more chance of buying a meat
press on the UK version of eBay. For some reason,
the British seem to have had the greatest interest
in pressed meats. Many of the meat presses which
appear on the U.S. eBay are from sellers in the UK
or Australia. Shipping is a real killer on anything
from Australia.

Markus Schulz > wrote in
:
>
> I guess I will use a eBay search agent to scan for molds in the USA
> and CA. I looked now for 2 days on Google and send emails to stores.
> But nobody has what I'm looking for. Like I said you get those all
> over Europe... eBay Germany also has a some. But like you pointed out,
> over seas shipping is not very reasonable.
>
> Markus Schulz
>

Yeah, I was looking for a tongue press here in California about ten
years ago. Google was pretty new then, but we got thousands of hits when
the guy in the cookware store typed in "tongue press." Of course, not
one of them had anything to do with kitchen appliances.

Bleah!
Mark P. Nelson.

--
While I'll admit that anyone can make a mistake once, to go on making
the same lethal errors century after century seems to me nothing short
of deliberate.--V.

Sqwertz wrote:
>
> On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 22:33:39 -0800, Mark Thorson wrote:
>
> > There aren't any sterilization procedures which are
> > considered adequate to remove the CJD infectious
> > agent from instruments used in brain surgery.
> > Because there have been several cases of CJD
> > caused by cross-contamination between patients
> > through contaminated instruments, the standard
> > practice is to discard them after use.
>
> BTW: I think you have your clock set 12 hours slow.

I made two mistakes. My computer switched times
a week or two earlier than it should have, so
I had to switch it back. Then, when the time
changed, I had to manually set it. Unfortunately,
I did this around noon, and the AM/PM thing was
wrong. When I corrected that, I didn't notice
the date had changed. For a day or two, I was
posting post-dated posts by a day.

Then, when I discovered the error and set the date
back, for some reason, the AM/PM thing changed
again. When I discovered that error, I fixed it
again and this time double-checked the date and time
to make sure it was right.

I have no idea why Microsoft thought that when
manually changing the time, it should also increment
or decrement the date, depending on the direction
of change. If the time increments by itself across
a date boundary, then sure the date should also
change, but not when the time is being changed
in manual mode.

Mark Thorson wrote:
> Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:12:41 -0800, Mark Thorson wrote:
>>
>>> Mine were all used when bought, but I had no concern
>>> about that -- except the possibility that cattle
>>> brains may have been used to make a head cheese.
>>> I'm satisfied that was not done in any of my molds,
>>> or in the one case in which it may have been done
>>> it would have last been used prior to the introduction
>>> of the infectious agent for BSE to North America.
>> I know you can't kill BSE by cooking, but can it be washed off of
>> surfaces? I would suspect so.
>
> There aren't any sterilization procedures which are
> considered adequate to remove the CJD infectious
> agent from instruments used in brain surgery.
> Because there have been several cases of CJD
> caused by cross-contamination between patients
> through contaminated instruments, the standard
> practice is to discard them after use.

This may sounds like a joke, but it is not. What are you eating? Do you
ever eat out side of your house?

Markus

Mark Thorson wrote:
> Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:12:41 -0800, Mark Thorson wrote:
>>
>>> Mine were all used when bought, but I had no concern
>>> about that -- except the possibility that cattle
>>> brains may have been used to make a head cheese.
>>> I'm satisfied that was not done in any of my molds,
>>> or in the one case in which it may have been done
>>> it would have last been used prior to the introduction
>>> of the infectious agent for BSE to North America.
>> I know you can't kill BSE by cooking, but can it be washed off of
>> surfaces? I would suspect so.
>
> There aren't any sterilization procedures which are
> considered adequate to remove the CJD infectious
> agent from instruments used in brain surgery.
> Because there have been several cases of CJD
> caused by cross-contamination between patients
> through contaminated instruments, the standard
> practice is to discard them after use.

quote from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creutzfeldt-Jakob_disease
>No cases of iatrogenic transmission of CJD have been reported
>subsequent to the adoption of current sterilization procedures, or
>since 1976.

I guess if I ever get a used ham mold I need to find out what the
current sterilization procedures are. Maybe I could fry the mold in oil?
Or just put it in the fire until it glows?

Mark you have really a talent to scare people away from ham molds

Markus

Markus Schulz wrote:
>
> This may sounds like a joke, but it is not. What are you eating?
> Do you ever eat out side of your house?

I very seldom eat at restaurants. The only beef
I eat is from Australia, where they've never had
a case of Mad Cow Disease. I also eat pork and
chicken.

I very much miss prawns, but unless I know they've
been caught in the wild I won't eat them. I'll
eat sockeye salmon (which are always wild-caught),
but not most other fish. Now that I know where
to buy orange roughy, I've been thinking about
buying some of that. Great fish, though terribly
not ecologically correct.

Markus Schulz wrote:
>
> I guess if I ever get a used ham mold I need to find out what the
> current sterilization procedures are. Maybe I could fry the mold in oil?

That won't work. The temperature is too low.

> Or just put it in the fire until it glows?

That would work for some grades of steel, but
most molds have aluminum bodies that would be ruined.

> Mark you have really a talent to scare people away from ham molds

If they've only been used for ham, there's no
problem. Transmissable spongiform encephalopathies
have never been found in pigs. Pork is totally
safe from this problem.

Sqwertz wrote:
>
> Scientists have managed to give pigs BSE. It's only a matter of
> time before some PETA freaks break in and free them.

Yes, but that was direct injection of infectious material
into their brains. Pig-to-pig transmission has never been
observed, nor occurrence of a natural form of a transmissable
spongiform encephalopathy in pigs.

In principle, it should be possible to infect the brains
of salmon, because they have the PrP protein. I do
worry about the crap food fed to farmed salmon, and for
that reason do not eat farmed salmon.

I had my first piece of orange roughy in 20 or 30 years
for lunch today. Kind of remarkable to think that this
piece of fish came from an animal which is likely to have
been about 75 years old, but could easily have been over
100 years old. It was good, but it made my kitchen
(the whole house, really) smell like fish. I wish I had
a good tactic to avoid that. I might cook the second
piece by wrapping in a foil envelope.

Oh pshaw, on Fri 09 Nov 2007 04:49:17p, Mark Thorson meant to say...

> Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>> Scientists have managed to give pigs BSE. It's only a matter of time
>> before some PETA freaks break in and free them.
>
> Yes, but that was direct injection of infectious material
> into their brains. Pig-to-pig transmission has never been
> observed, nor occurrence of a natural form of a transmissable
> spongiform encephalopathy in pigs.
>
> In principle, it should be possible to infect the brains
> of salmon, because they have the PrP protein. I do
> worry about the crap food fed to farmed salmon, and for
> that reason do not eat farmed salmon.
>
> I had my first piece of orange roughy in 20 or 30 years
> for lunch today. Kind of remarkable to think that this
> piece of fish came from an animal which is likely to have
> been about 75 years old, but could easily have been over
> 100 years old. It was good, but it made my kitchen
> (the whole house, really) smell like fish. I wish I had
> a good tactic to avoid that. I might cook the second
> piece by wrapping in a foil envelope.
>

You could also cook it outside on the grill.

--
Wayne Boatwright

(to e-mail me direct, replace cox dot net with gmail dot com)
__________________________________________________ ____________

'Sorry... it's the chocolate talking.' -- Wakko Warner

On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 15:49:17 -0800, Mark Thorson >
wrote:

>I had my first piece of orange roughy in 20 or 30 years
>for lunch today. Kind of remarkable to think that this
>piece of fish came from an animal which is likely to have
>been about 75 years old, but could easily have been over
>100 years old. It was good, but it made my kitchen
>(the whole house, really) smell like fish. I wish I had
>a good tactic to avoid that. I might cook the second
>piece by wrapping in a foil envelope.

Cook it outside. I love any kind of fish but even the best quality
will stink up the house. Got a grill?

Lou

On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 23:59:21 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>Oh pshaw, on Fri 09 Nov 2007 04:49:17p, Mark Thorson meant to say...
>
>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>>
>>> Scientists have managed to give pigs BSE. It's only a matter of time
>>> before some PETA freaks break in and free them.
>>
>> Yes, but that was direct injection of infectious material
>> into their brains. Pig-to-pig transmission has never been
>> observed, nor occurrence of a natural form of a transmissable
>> spongiform encephalopathy in pigs.
>>
>> In principle, it should be possible to infect the brains
>> of salmon, because they have the PrP protein. I do
>> worry about the crap food fed to farmed salmon, and for
>> that reason do not eat farmed salmon.
>>
>> I had my first piece of orange roughy in 20 or 30 years
>> for lunch today. Kind of remarkable to think that this
>> piece of fish came from an animal which is likely to have
>> been about 75 years old, but could easily have been over
>> 100 years old. It was good, but it made my kitchen
>> (the whole house, really) smell like fish. I wish I had
>> a good tactic to avoid that. I might cook the second
>> piece by wrapping in a foil envelope.
>>
>
>You could also cook it outside on the grill.

Ops. Didn't see this before I posted the same thing. Sorry.

Lou

Oh pshaw, on Fri 09 Nov 2007 05:51:14p, Lou Decruss meant to say...

> On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 23:59:21 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
>>Oh pshaw, on Fri 09 Nov 2007 04:49:17p, Mark Thorson meant to say...
>>
>>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Scientists have managed to give pigs BSE. It's only a matter of time
>>>> before some PETA freaks break in and free them.
>>>
>>> Yes, but that was direct injection of infectious material
>>> into their brains. Pig-to-pig transmission has never been
>>> observed, nor occurrence of a natural form of a transmissable
>>> spongiform encephalopathy in pigs.
>>>
>>> In principle, it should be possible to infect the brains
>>> of salmon, because they have the PrP protein. I do
>>> worry about the crap food fed to farmed salmon, and for
>>> that reason do not eat farmed salmon.
>>>
>>> I had my first piece of orange roughy in 20 or 30 years
>>> for lunch today. Kind of remarkable to think that this
>>> piece of fish came from an animal which is likely to have
>>> been about 75 years old, but could easily have been over
>>> 100 years old. It was good, but it made my kitchen
>>> (the whole house, really) smell like fish. I wish I had
>>> a good tactic to avoid that. I might cook the second
>>> piece by wrapping in a foil envelope.
>>>
>>
>>You could also cook it outside on the grill.
>
> Ops. Didn't see this before I posted the same thing. Sorry.
>
> Lou

Better two suggestions than none. :-)

--
Wayne Boatwright

(to e-mail me direct, replace cox dot net with gmail dot com)
__________________________________________________ ____________

'Sorry... it's the chocolate talking.' -- Wakko Warner

Lou Decruss wrote:
>
> On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 23:59:21 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
> >
> >You could also cook it outside on the grill.
>
> Ops. Didn't see this before I posted the same thing. Sorry.

I haven't fired up my grill in quite some time.
It seems like a lot of work to cook one piece of fish.

Oh pshaw, on Sat 10 Nov 2007 03:24:10p, Mark Thorson meant to say...

> Lou Decruss wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 23:59:21 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >You could also cook it outside on the grill.
>>
>> Ops. Didn't see this before I posted the same thing. Sorry.
>
> I haven't fired up my grill in quite some time.
> It seems like a lot of work to cook one piece of fish.
>

I guess it depends on how badly you want to prevent a fish smell in the
house. I don't think by "sealing" it in a foil pouch will totally
eliminate the smell.

--
Wayne Boatwright

(to e-mail me direct, replace cox dot net with gmail dot com)
__________________________________________________ ____________

OK, I'm weird ! But I'm saving up to be eccentric.