On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:00:45 -0500, Boron Elgar
> wrote:

>On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:36:48 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:
>
>>Oh pshaw, on Mon 19 Nov 2007 05:31:21a, Boron Elgar meant to say...
>>
>
>>>
>>> My maternal grandparents were from Hungary and I remember seeing my
>>> grandmother make strudel pastry. She had an enamel-top kitchen table
>>> and she'd stretch the dough all the way over it, almost like a
>>> see-through table cloth. That is a very, very early childhood memory.
>>>
>>> Boron
>>>
>>
>>And a very nice memory, Boron! I learned how to make the dough from the
>>grandmother of a friend many years ago. I think this would be difficult to
>>learn from a cookbook without a lot visuals.
>
>
>I am going to search around online to see if I can find a video
>
It sounds too much like filo to me. I don't think I'd ever have the
patience to do that.


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Oh pshaw, on Mon 19 Nov 2007 08:47:39p, Dee.Dee meant to say...

>
> "Woolstitcher" > wrote in message
> . net...
>>
>> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message btw, you
>> don't want to live in Cleveland anymore ... the murder rate is higher
now
>> than ever ... poverty is worse than ever ... and the schools ... well,
>> it's not like they have been any good in the past 20 yrs ... are only
>> worse now. I would love to live in Ohio City w/ all those wonderful
>> houses ... but I would rather not get shot on my way to the car
>>
>>
>
>
> Wondering where Ruhlman lives. He told Bourdain he really liked it in
> Cleveland -- I'm paraphrasing.
> Dee Dee
>
>
>

In Cleveland, it really depends totally on where you go.

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On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 02:53:52 GMT, Puester >
wrote:

>Boron Elgar wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>> My maternal grandparents were from Hungary and I remember seeing my
>>>> grandmother make strudel pastry. She had an enamel-top kitchen table
>>>> and she'd stretch the dough all the way over it, almost like a
>>>> see-through table cloth. That is a very, very early childhood memory.
>>>>
>>
>>
>> I am going to search around online to see if I can find a video
>>
>> Boron
>
>
>There's a Canadian show called "How It's Made" on one of the cable
>channels. My 6 yr. old grandson adores it, so we watch it after school
>often.
>
>One of the episodes shows how phyllo dough is made. They stretch each
>layer of dough to the edges of a table that must be something like 6x8
>feet. It's amazing to watch how deftly they handle the dough.
>
I've seen that too.... not sure what the name of the show was, but it
convinced me I didn't want to try making phyllo.

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"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
3.184...

>
> There was one on Smith Road, Rudy's, but I didn't care for it. I think
> they may have relocated as well.
>
> The one I really like is:
>
> Lydia's Hungarian Strudel Shop
> Address: 6230 Stumph Rd, Cleveland, OH 44130
> Phone: (440) 885-2600
>
> It used to be on W. 130th Street across from Southland Shopping Center.
>

I'm going to Southland in the morning, I'll look for it. Thanks!

> If you manage to get there, please let me know what you think of it. At
> the old shop you could watch them stretching the studel dough and filling
> the strudels. They would also make specialty strudels, like fresh
> mushroom
> or fried cabbage, as well as all of the fruit strudels and cheese
> strudels.
>
>

Did you know the Chocolate factory accross from Southland burned to the
ground I can't remember the name right now.


>> btw, you don't want to live in Cleveland anymore ... the murder rate is
>> higher now than ever ... poverty is worse than ever ... and the schools
>> ... well, it's not like they have been any good in the past 20 yrs ...
>> are only worse now.
>
> That's sad to hear. I no longer have family living in the Cleveland area,
> so have little incentive to come back. However, David's entire family
> lives in the area, but we have no immediate plans to visit.
>

If the housing market wasn't so bad, we would be outta' here.
I'm not quite in Cleveland ... but south in the land of Perogi


>> I would love to live in Ohio City w/ all those wonderful houses ... but
>> I would rather not get shot on my way to the car
>
> What a wonderful area that could have been if they had been able to
> control
> the crime and violence. We used to love the restaurants in the area. I
> really liked Heck's Cafe for lunch.
>
> Cheers!
>
> --
> November 15th,2007
> ¦ A mind is a terrible thing to lose... ¦
> |_| _, _ _
> | |(_||_)|_)\_|
> ___ | ._|
> | |_ _ ,_ |/ , _ . .,_ _
> | | |(_|| ||\/_)(_|||/|| |(_|
> ___ ._| ._|
> .'=:-\
> /.='( ` give thanks...
> /. ^=.'-._..---.

>>There's a Canadian show called "How It's Made" on one of the cable
>>channels. My 6 yr. old grandson adores it, so we watch it after school
>>often.
>>
>>One of the episodes shows how phyllo dough is made. They stretch each
>>layer of dough to the edges of a table that must be something like 6x8
>>feet. It's amazing to watch how deftly they handle the dough.
>>


> I've seen that too.... not sure what the name of the show was, but it
> convinced me I didn't want to try making phyllo.
>
> --


Yes, I've seen that show, too. It's not too easy to forget -- awesome!
Dee Dee

Janet Baraclough wrote:
> The message >
> from Sarah Gray > contains these words:
>
>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 22:52:50 -0500, Sarah Gray wrote:
>>>
>>>> I cannot see myself ever boning chicken legs and stuffing them with
>>>> duxelles ever again, even though it was awesomely delicious. I hate
>>>> boning poultry with an intensity that rivals my disgust with my
>>>> ex-husband.
>>> He wasn't good at boning either?
>
>> Thats not why I'm disgusted with him (more so that he left town a few
>> months ago with less than 12 hours' notice and hasn't seen his daughter
>> since),
>
> Try not to let your daughter know what you think of her father :-(

I don't. It is rather frustrating, but I know it won't do her any good
for me to say what a shit he is. He's the only dad she's got, you know?

--

Sarah Gray

Dan Abel wrote:
> In article >,
> Sqwertz > wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 22:52:50 -0500, Sarah Gray wrote:
>>
>>> I cannot see myself ever boning chicken legs and stuffing them with
>>> duxelles ever again, even though it was awesomely delicious. I hate
>>> boning poultry with an intensity that rivals my disgust with my ex-husband.
>
>> He wasn't good at boning either?
>
>
> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/mug/sh...20Daughter.jpg
>
> If he produced this, I have to be impressed.
>

I should find a new picture. That was last fall. She's, like, a foot
taller now, practically! (they said 95th percentile for height at the
doctor's in August!)
He's not a horrible monster of a guy, just really irresponsible. I think
once we are done with going to court about custody and child support,
we'll be able to be more amicable.

> I don't like boning chicken legs. I don't like boning anything.

Sounds like a sad existence, heh :0

--

Sarah Gray

Dee.Dee wrote:
>
> In a Greek restaurant in CT, I had some spanakopita and for dessert, a
> baklava. Both were homemade. Both tasted different-ly than store-bought or
> my attempt at spanakopita. The baklava was more solid and like a date-nut
> square, but wonderful. You wouldn't have been able to name what it was --
> oh, oh! perhaps they gave me the wrong item? ;-))
>
> I like to buy it around Christmas when I have a better chance of finding it
> without all the food additives.
>
> I salute you for your attempt.
> Dee Dee
>
>

Mine came out really good. It's just that I *thought* my husband likes
Baklava, so I decided to try it, but apparently he doesn't...he didn't
even try it..the jerk..lol. And my daughter doesn't like nuts at all.
She doesn't like a lot of things..I don't know where this kid came from. ;-)

So I ate Baklava for a week.
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blake murphy wrote:
>
> i'm pretty sure that in most places boning chickens is illegal.
>
> your pal,
> blake

Hey...what they don't know...

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Kate Connally wrote:
> Probably never going to make my own wine.

This is one thing that I want to try. However it's too labor intensive
and expensive for me to try at this stage of life.


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Dan Abel wrote:
> In article >,
> Serene > wrote:
>
>
>> (Note: I found two realllllly wonderful men who have never made me
>> regret bringing them into my life and trusting them with my heart.
>> They're good for so very many things. :-)
>
> You make me very happy. Some men are worthless. I could apologize, but
> it isn't really my problem. Some women are worthless. We need to
> appreciate the men, women and children who are worth loving.
>
> I love you a lot.

Thanks.

Serene

Sarah Gray wrote:
> Dan Abel wrote:
>> In article >,
>> Sqwertz > wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 22:52:50 -0500, Sarah Gray wrote:
>>>
>>>> I cannot see myself ever boning chicken legs and stuffing them with
>>>> duxelles ever again, even though it was awesomely delicious. I hate
>>>> boning poultry with an intensity that rivals my disgust with my
>>>> ex-husband.
>>
>>> He wasn't good at boning either?
>>
>>
>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/mug/sh...20Daughter.jpg
>>
>> If he produced this, I have to be impressed.
>>
>
> I should find a new picture. That was last fall. She's, like, a foot
> taller now, practically! (they said 95th percentile for height at the
> doctor's in August!)

I need to submit a new pic as well...mines a few years old. Yours is
quite nice by the way :-)

--
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I'm a blogger: http://ravenwolflodge.blogspot.com

Dan Abel wrote:
> In article >,
> Serene > wrote:
>
>
>> (Note: I found two realllllly wonderful men who have never made me
>> regret bringing them into my life and trusting them with my heart.
>> They're good for so very many things. :-)
>
> You make me very happy. Some men are worthless. I could apologize, but
> it isn't really my problem. Some women are worthless. We need to
> appreciate the men, women and children who are worth loving.

:applause: My thoughts exactly.


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I'm a blogger: http://ravenwolflodge.blogspot.com

ravenlynne wrote:
> Sarah Gray wrote:
>> Dan Abel wrote:
>>> In article >,
>>> Sqwertz > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 22:52:50 -0500, Sarah Gray wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I cannot see myself ever boning chicken legs and stuffing them with
>>>>> duxelles ever again, even though it was awesomely delicious. I hate
>>>>> boning poultry with an intensity that rivals my disgust with my
>>>>> ex-husband.
>>>
>>>> He wasn't good at boning either?
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/mug/sh...20Daughter.jpg
>>>
>>> If he produced this, I have to be impressed.
>>>
>>
>> I should find a new picture. That was last fall. She's, like, a foot
>> taller now, practically! (they said 95th percentile for height at the
>> doctor's in August!)
>
> I need to submit a new pic as well...mines a few years old. Yours is
> quite nice by the way :-)
>

thanks
this one is more recent, but I look better in the old one, heh.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/6412917...7601605602048/

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Sarah Gray wrote:
> thanks
> this one is more recent, but I look better in the old one, heh.
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/6412917...7601605602048/
>
>

I want that red hair! LOL...

Mine:

http://good-times.webshots.com/photo...ost=good-times



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ravenlynne wrote:
> Sarah Gray wrote:
>> thanks
>> this one is more recent, but I look better in the old one, heh.
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/6412917...7601605602048/
>>
>>
>
> I want that red hair! LOL...
>
> Mine:
>
> http://good-times.webshots.com/photo...ost=good-times
>
>
>
>

it would clash with the red shirts!


I used to dye my hair all kinds of crazy colors, but have stuck with the
natural for a while. I figure I can dye it again when I start to go gray.

--

Sarah Gray

Sarah Gray wrote:


> it would clash with the red shirts!
>
>
> I used to dye my hair all kinds of crazy colors, but have stuck with the
> natural for a while. I figure I can dye it again when I start to go gray.
>

You've got that red that you can't get from a bottle...It never comes
out looking right. Trust me, I've tried..lol. I'll stay with plain,
boring dark brown.

--
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http://www.myspace.com/ravenlynne1975
I'm a blogger: http://ravenwolflodge.blogspot.com

Oh pshaw, on Mon 19 Nov 2007 09:16:42p, Woolstitcher meant to say...

>
> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
> 3.184...
>
>>
>> There was one on Smith Road, Rudy's, but I didn't care for it. I
>> think they may have relocated as well.
>>
>> The one I really like is:
>>
>> Lydia's Hungarian Strudel Shop
>> Address: 6230 Stumph Rd, Cleveland, OH 44130
>> Phone: (440) 885-2600
>>
>> It used to be on W. 130th Street across from Southland Shopping Center.
>>
>
> I'm going to Southland in the morning, I'll look for it. Thanks!

You might want to give a call at the above number first. I think the
Stumph Rd. address is correct.

>> If you manage to get there, please let me know what you think of it.
>> At the old shop you could watch them stretching the studel dough and
>> filling the strudels. They would also make specialty strudels, like
>> fresh mushroom or fried cabbage, as well as all of the fruit strudels
>> and cheese strudels.
>>
>>
>
> Did you know the Chocolate factory accross from Southland burned to the
> ground I can't remember the name right now.

That was Faroh's Chocolates, IIRC. They had the most delicious hand
dipped chocolate covered fresh strawberries! What a shame!

>>> btw, you don't want to live in Cleveland anymore ... the murder rate
>>> is higher now than ever ... poverty is worse than ever ... and the
>>> schools ... well, it's not like they have been any good in the past 20
>>> yrs ... are only worse now.
>>
>> That's sad to hear. I no longer have family living in the Cleveland
>> area, so have little incentive to come back. However, David's entire
>> family lives in the area, but we have no immediate plans to visit.
>>
>
> If the housing market wasn't so bad, we would be outta' here.
> I'm not quite in Cleveland ... but south in the land of Perogi

I grew up in Parma on Pelham Drive; that would be Perogi land! :-)

The job market was one of the major reasons we decided to relocate. At
the time we left (2000) the housing market was still okay, so we got the
"asked for" price for our house. At the time we were living in North
Ridgeville.

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| |(_||_)|_)\_|
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| |_ _ ,_ |/ , _ . .,_ _
| | |(_|| ||\/_)(_|||/|| |(_|
___ ._| ._|
.'=:-\
/.='( ` give thanks...
/. ^=.'-._..---.

ravenlynne wrote:
> Sarah Gray wrote:
>
>
>> it would clash with the red shirts!
>>
>>
>> I used to dye my hair all kinds of crazy colors, but have stuck with
>> the natural for a while. I figure I can dye it again when I start to
>> go gray.
>
> You've got that red that you can't get from a bottle...It never comes
> out looking right. Trust me, I've tried..lol. I'll stay with plain,
> boring dark brown.

Sarah hair is lovely but so is yours )

Enjoy what you have

ravenlynne wrote:
> Sarah Gray wrote:
>
>
>> it would clash with the red shirts!
>>
>>
>> I used to dye my hair all kinds of crazy colors, but have stuck with
>> the natural for a while. I figure I can dye it again when I start to
>> go gray.
>>
>
> You've got that red that you can't get from a bottle...It never comes
> out looking right. Trust me, I've tried..lol. I'll stay with plain,
> boring dark brown.
>

Feria and Nice and Easy actually both make reasonable facsimiles; I know
this from having to dye my hair back to it's natural color a few times.
You couldn't tell, really, when it grew out.

My favorite color was bright orange, though:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/6412917...7600954408750/


--

Sarah Gray

Reg wrote:
>
> Phyllo is another story. It's much harder, takes much more
> time, and the result isn't any better than what you can buy.


This makes me curious. How is phyllo made at the factory? Special
equipment that can't be duplicated at home?


--Lia

Boron Elgar wrote:
>
> O, I detest exercising, too. I am really happy that there are those
> who enjoy it and I do mine diligently and understand the health
> benefits, but what an f'ing waste of mental time.


The gym where I work out understands this philosophy to a fine point of
perfection. They have a whole row of treadmills, stationary bikes, ski
machines and stairmasters. They face a row of 10 televisions all on
different channels. Even if you bring your own earphones and put on
music or podcasts that you like, you can't avoid seeing the televisions
if you have your eyes open. They have a rack of gossip rag magazines
and remove anything I put on the rack of a more intellectual nature.
It's as though they're saying, you must be an idiot if you want to
exercise, and if you weren't when you came in, you'll be an idiot when
you leave.


(And yet, the health benefits are undeniable. I start feeling better
within days of taking up exercise.)


--Lia

"ravenlynne" > wrote in message
...
> Dan Abel wrote:
>> In article >,
>> Serene > wrote:
>>
>>
>>> (Note: I found two realllllly wonderful men who have never made me
>>> regret bringing them into my life and trusting them with my heart.
>>> They're good for so very many things. :-)
>>
>> You make me very happy. Some men are worthless. I could apologize, but
>> it isn't really my problem. Some women are worthless. We need to
>> appreciate the men, women and children who are worth loving.
>
> :applause: My thoughts exactly.
>
>
> --
> -Gina in Italy


All children are worth loving -- but I knew what you meant. :-))
Dee Dee

"ravenlynne" > wrote in message
...
> Dee.Dee wrote:
>>
>> In a Greek restaurant in CT, I had some spanakopita and for dessert, a
>> baklava. Both were homemade. Both tasted different-ly than store-bought
>> or my attempt at spanakopita. The baklava was more solid and like a
>> date-nut square, but wonderful. You wouldn't have been able to name what
>> it was -- oh, oh! perhaps they gave me the wrong item? ;-))
>>
>> I like to buy it around Christmas when I have a better chance of finding
>> it without all the food additives.
>>
>> I salute you for your attempt.
>> Dee Dee
>
> Mine came out really good. It's just that I *thought* my husband likes
> Baklava, so I decided to try it, but apparently he doesn't...he didn't
> even try it..the jerk..lol. And my daughter doesn't like nuts at all. She
> doesn't like a lot of things..I don't know where this kid came from. ;-)
>
> So I ate Baklava for a week.
> --
> -Gina in Italy


I don't know how anyone could resist baklava, so you got lucky.
Beautiful family, yours.
Dee Dee

In article 4>,
Wayne Boatwright > wrote:

> I like savory strudels, too, not just the sweet ones. There was one
> strudel shop in Middleburgh Hts., OH where I would sometimes buy a fresh
> mushroom or fried cabbage strudel. My favorite sweet strudel from their
> shop was a cheese strudel studded with white raisins.

Andre's Bakery on the Upper East Side in Manhattan. Their cabbage
strudel is to die for.
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
Notes about our meals in Tuscany have been posted to
http://www.jamlady.eboard.com; 10-16-2007

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
> Oh pshaw, on Mon 19 Nov 2007 08:27:34p, Woolstitcher meant to say...
>
> >
><snip>
>
> > I would love to live in Ohio City w/ all those wonderful houses ... but
> > I would rather not get shot on my way to the car
>
> What a wonderful area that could have been if they had been able to control
> the crime and violence. We used to love the restaurants in the area. I
> really liked Heck's Cafe for lunch.
>
> Cheers!
>
How very strange that I lived in Cleveland for so many years and never
heard that area referred to as Ohio City. Certainly spent a lot of time
and money at the West Side Market! The Flats was another
favourite/interesting place to be. However I lived in University Circle
and spent a short stint in Cleveland Heights bording the University
area. Plenty of good food in Cleveland in the past though.

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
> Oh pshaw, on Mon 19 Nov 2007 09:16:42p, Woolstitcher meant to say...
>
> >
> > "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
> > 3.184...
> >
> >>
> >> There was one on Smith Road, Rudy's, but I didn't care for it. I
> >> think they may have relocated as well.
> >>
> >> The one I really like is:
> >>
> >> Lydia's Hungarian Strudel Shop
> >> Address: 6230 Stumph Rd, Cleveland, OH 44130
> >> Phone: (440) 885-2600
> >>
> >> It used to be on W. 130th Street across from Southland Shopping Center.
> >>
> >
> > I'm going to Southland in the morning, I'll look for it. Thanks!
>
> You might want to give a call at the above number first. I think the
> Stumph Rd. address is correct.
>
> >> If you manage to get there, please let me know what you think of it.
> >> At the old shop you could watch them stretching the studel dough and
> >> filling the strudels. They would also make specialty strudels, like
> >> fresh mushroom or fried cabbage, as well as all of the fruit strudels
> >> and cheese strudels.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Did you know the Chocolate factory accross from Southland burned to the
> > ground I can't remember the name right now.
>
> That was Faroh's Chocolates, IIRC. They had the most delicious hand
> dipped chocolate covered fresh strawberries! What a shame!
>
> >>> btw, you don't want to live in Cleveland anymore ... the murder rate
> >>> is higher now than ever ... poverty is worse than ever ... and the
> >>> schools ... well, it's not like they have been any good in the past 20
> >>> yrs ... are only worse now.
> >>
> >> That's sad to hear. I no longer have family living in the Cleveland
> >> area, so have little incentive to come back. However, David's entire
> >> family lives in the area, but we have no immediate plans to visit.
> >>
> >
> > If the housing market wasn't so bad, we would be outta' here.
> > I'm not quite in Cleveland ... but south in the land of Perogi
>
> I grew up in Parma on Pelham Drive; that would be Perogi land! :-)
>
> The job market was one of the major reasons we decided to relocate. At
> the time we left (2000) the housing market was still okay, so we got the
> "asked for" price for our house. At the time we were living in North
> Ridgeville.
>
Ahhhh... I rember all those jokes about Parma...

Sarah Gray wrote:
>
> Feria and Nice and Easy actually both make reasonable facsimiles; I know
> this from having to dye my hair back to it's natural color a few times.
> You couldn't tell, really, when it grew out.
>
> My favorite color was bright orange, though:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/6412917...7600954408750/
>
>
>

Now THAT's bright!


--
-Gina in Italy

http://www.myspace.com/ravenlynne1975
I'm a blogger: http://ravenwolflodge.blogspot.com

Dee.Dee wrote:
> "ravenlynne" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Dee.Dee wrote:
>>> In a Greek restaurant in CT, I had some spanakopita and for dessert, a
>>> baklava. Both were homemade. Both tasted different-ly than store-bought
>>> or my attempt at spanakopita. The baklava was more solid and like a
>>> date-nut square, but wonderful. You wouldn't have been able to name what
>>> it was -- oh, oh! perhaps they gave me the wrong item? ;-))
>>>
>>> I like to buy it around Christmas when I have a better chance of finding
>>> it without all the food additives.
>>>
>>> I salute you for your attempt.
>>> Dee Dee
>> Mine came out really good. It's just that I *thought* my husband likes
>> Baklava, so I decided to try it, but apparently he doesn't...he didn't
>> even try it..the jerk..lol. And my daughter doesn't like nuts at all. She
>> doesn't like a lot of things..I don't know where this kid came from. ;-)
>>
>> So I ate Baklava for a week.
>> --
>> -Gina in Italy
>
>
> I don't know how anyone could resist baklava, so you got lucky.
> Beautiful family, yours.
> Dee Dee
>
>

Thanks :-)

--
-Gina in Italy

http://www.myspace.com/ravenlynne1975
I'm a blogger: http://ravenwolflodge.blogspot.com

"Arri London" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>
>> Oh pshaw, on Mon 19 Nov 2007 08:27:34p, Woolstitcher meant to say...
>>
>> >
>><snip>
>>
>> > I would love to live in Ohio City w/ all those wonderful houses ... but
>> > I would rather not get shot on my way to the car
>>
>> What a wonderful area that could have been if they had been able to
>> control
>> the crime and violence. We used to love the restaurants in the area. I
>> really liked Heck's Cafe for lunch.
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
> How very strange that I lived in Cleveland for so many years and never
> heard that area referred to as Ohio City.

Really? That is pretty amazing.

Certainly spent a lot of time
> and money at the West Side Market!

Then you have been to Ohio City Well, that's the area at least.


The Flats was another
> favourite/interesting place to be. However I lived in University Circle
> and spent a short stint in Cleveland Heights bording the University
> area. Plenty of good food in Cleveland in the past though.

I love Cleveland Heights ... If I didn't have kids I would consider living
there. The schools there are very bad.
So .. back to food ... if your ever in Cleveland Heights and are looking for
pizza ... it's all about Dewy's on Lee Rd. Amazing crust ... quality
cheeses and they toss the pizza's behind a glass wall. Fun to watch, fun to
eat ... and the prices are good too.

Boron Elgar wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 03:04:39 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:

>> Oh, I understand. I have my own system, too. Basically, I do follow
>> Weight Watchers, but I have adapted choices that work the best for me and
>> within the constraints of diabetes. OTOH, I do not excercise and probably
>> never will. I haven't found it necessary, and I dislike it intensely. :-)
>
> O, I detest exercising, too. I am really happy that there are those
> who enjoy it and I do mine diligently and understand the health
> benefits, but what an f'ing waste of mental time.
>
> Boron

When I exercise, it is my time to think. I ponder things and I solve all
of the world's problems. I tried sharing this with the cats, but they
will not stay awake.

What I wanted, was to lose weight without diet or exercise, but my
doctor said that was not possible. See why people hate going to the
doctor? Nothing but bad news all around.

Becca

Ob Food:

Cherry-Nut Muffins

* 3½ cups all-purpose flour
* ¾ cup whole-wheat flour
* 2 tablespoons baking powder
* 1 teaspoon salt
* 1 cup chopped walnuts or pecans
* 2 cups reduced-fat buttermilk
* 11/8 cups granulated sugar
* 1 cup canola oil
* 2 eggs, lightly beaten
* 1 (14.5-ounce) can tart cherries, drained

Preheat the oven to 325 degrees. Coat a muffin pan with nonstick spray
or use paper liners. It's a good idea to spray the top of the tins
lightly, too, which can help prevent the muffin tops from sticking.

Whisk together the flours, baking powder, salt and chopped nuts in a bowl.

In a separate bowl, stir together the buttermilk, sugar, oil and eggs.
Combine the wet and dry ingredients, being careful not to overmix.
Gently stir in the cherries.

Divide the batter among 20 to 24 muffin cups, filing them about 2/3
full. Bake 15 to 20 minutes.
Makes 20 to 24 muffins.

Recipe from Sweet Tomatoes.

"Arri London" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>
>> Oh pshaw, on Mon 19 Nov 2007 09:16:42p, Woolstitcher meant to say...
>>
>> >
>> > "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
>> > 3.184...
>> >
>> >>
>> >> There was one on Smith Road, Rudy's, but I didn't care for it. I
>> >> think they may have relocated as well.
>> >>
>> >> The one I really like is:
>> >>
>> >> Lydia's Hungarian Strudel Shop
>> >> Address: 6230 Stumph Rd, Cleveland, OH 44130
>> >> Phone: (440) 885-2600
>> >>
>> >> It used to be on W. 130th Street across from Southland Shopping
>> >> Center.
>> >>
>> >
>> > I'm going to Southland in the morning, I'll look for it. Thanks!
>>
>> You might want to give a call at the above number first. I think the
>> Stumph Rd. address is correct.
>>
>> >> If you manage to get there, please let me know what you think of it.
>> >> At the old shop you could watch them stretching the studel dough and
>> >> filling the strudels. They would also make specialty strudels, like
>> >> fresh mushroom or fried cabbage, as well as all of the fruit strudels
>> >> and cheese strudels.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > Did you know the Chocolate factory accross from Southland burned to the
>> > ground I can't remember the name right now.
>>
>> That was Faroh's Chocolates, IIRC. They had the most delicious hand
>> dipped chocolate covered fresh strawberries! What a shame!
>>
>> >>> btw, you don't want to live in Cleveland anymore ... the murder rate
>> >>> is higher now than ever ... poverty is worse than ever ... and the
>> >>> schools ... well, it's not like they have been any good in the past
>> >>> 20
>> >>> yrs ... are only worse now.
>> >>
>> >> That's sad to hear. I no longer have family living in the Cleveland
>> >> area, so have little incentive to come back. However, David's entire
>> >> family lives in the area, but we have no immediate plans to visit.
>> >>
>> >
>> > If the housing market wasn't so bad, we would be outta' here.
>> > I'm not quite in Cleveland ... but south in the land of Perogi
>>
>> I grew up in Parma on Pelham Drive; that would be Perogi land! :-)
>>
>> The job market was one of the major reasons we decided to relocate. At
>> the time we left (2000) the housing market was still okay, so we got the
>> "asked for" price for our house. At the time we were living in North
>> Ridgeville.
>>
> Ahhhh... I rember all those jokes about Parma...

When ever I tell someone where I live I always add "but I'm not from there."
lol

On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 07:45:23 +0100, ravenlynne >
wrote:

>blake murphy wrote:
>>
>> i'm pretty sure that in most places boning chickens is illegal.
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>
>Hey...what they don't know...

i try to make sure the chickens don't speak english, but you may have
to handle it differently in italy.

your pal,
blake

Oh pshaw, on Tue 20 Nov 2007 08:06:59a, Melba's Jammin' meant to say...

> In article 4>,
> Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
>
>> I like savory strudels, too, not just the sweet ones. There was one
>> strudel shop in Middleburgh Hts., OH where I would sometimes buy a fresh
>> mushroom or fried cabbage strudel. My favorite sweet strudel from their
>> shop was a cheese strudel studded with white raisins.
>
> Andre's Bakery on the Upper East Side in Manhattan. Their cabbage
> strudel is to die for.

Alas, I wish I was spending Thanksgivingin NYC, as I have done many times
before. Unfortunately, Phoenix is a litle far and too expensive.

--
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On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:26:26 -0500, Julia Altshuler
> wrote:

>Boron Elgar wrote:
>>
>> O, I detest exercising, too. I am really happy that there are those
>> who enjoy it and I do mine diligently and understand the health
>> benefits, but what an f'ing waste of mental time.
>
>
>The gym where I work out understands this philosophy to a fine point of
>perfection. They have a whole row of treadmills, stationary bikes, ski
>machines and stairmasters. They face a row of 10 televisions all on
>different channels. Even if you bring your own earphones and put on
>music or podcasts that you like, you can't avoid seeing the televisions
>if you have your eyes open. They have a rack of gossip rag magazines
>and remove anything I put on the rack of a more intellectual nature.
>It's as though they're saying, you must be an idiot if you want to
>exercise, and if you weren't when you came in, you'll be an idiot when
>you leave.

That is quite funny. All the gyms I have ever used have the TVs set
up. One near me has several of the treadmills and stairmasters right
next to the front window. Sidewalk to ceiling you can see those
pieces. And I can tell you that only the sleekest and most buff use
those particular machines.

I have a treadmill and recumbent bike at home and work out there - in
front of my own TV!

Once my eldest fledges, I will turn her room into an exercise area and
add something like a Bowflex to the mix.

>
>(And yet, the health benefits are undeniable. I start feeling better
>within days of taking up exercise.)

You are so right.
>
>
Boron

Boron Elgar wrote:
>
> That is quite funny. All the gyms I have ever used have the TVs set
> up.


On this group we talk often about the differences between generations.
Over and over I find exceptions to "back in my day we knew ..." and
"kids nowadays don't ..." For me, there's one acid test: whether
you're able to ignore a television. Younger folks seem to be able to
know the television is on and ignore it or see it and do something else
at the same time. Old fogies like me are annoyed by televisions unless
we're actively watching something. It's not that I hate everything on
t.v. It's that if it's on, I'm watching it and don't want you talking
to me. So exercising in front of a television is fine if I like what's
on and am sitting there pedaling. But during the daytime which is when
I'm usually at the gym and when I've brought a book to read? Drives me
nuts.


--Lia

Sqwertz wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 23:03:51 -0800, Serene wrote:
>
>> Dan Abel wrote:
>>
>>> You make me very happy. Some men are worthless. I could apologize, but
>>> it isn't really my problem. Some women are worthless. We need to
>>> appreciate the men, women and children who are worth loving.
>>>
>>> I love you a lot.
>> Thanks.
>
> I never knew you two were a couple - err, a three+some. I'm not
> being smarmy. I just didn't realize this until now.
>
> Now I'm getting all gooshey.

No, we're not. I assumed this was a fraternal love Dan was
expressing. :-)

Serene

ravenlynne wrote:
> Sarah Gray wrote:
>>
>> Feria and Nice and Easy actually both make reasonable facsimiles; I
>> know this from having to dye my hair back to it's natural color a few
>> times. You couldn't tell, really, when it grew out.
>>
>> My favorite color was bright orange, though:
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/6412917...7600954408750/
>>
>>
>>
>
> Now THAT's bright!
>
>

If I ever dye it again, I'm dying it that color again.

--

Sarah Gray

Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 23:39:56 -0500, Sarah Gray wrote:
>
>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>>> He wasn't good at boning either?
>> Thats not why I'm disgusted with him (more so that he left town a few
>> months ago with less than 12 hours' notice and hasn't seen his daughter
>> since), but no, not particularly, ha.
>
> I'd never leave you or our daughter like that. Damn - do I have
> a cigar band around?
>
> -sw

LOL!

--

Sarah Gray

Woolstitcher wrote:
>
> "Arri London" > wrote in message
> ...
><snip>

I grew up in Parma on Pelham Drive; that would be Perogi land! :-)
> >>
> >> The job market was one of the major reasons we decided to relocate. At
> >> the time we left (2000) the housing market was still okay, so we got the
> >> "asked for" price for our house. At the time we were living in North
> >> Ridgeville.
> >>
> > Ahhhh... I rember all those jokes about Parma...
>
> When ever I tell someone where I live I always add "but I'm not from there."
> lol

Coward LOL! It's not a bad place at all.