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There are many "kitchen myths" that you hear regularly - ideas about cooking
and food that are known to be false but seem to have a life of their own. For example, "searing meat seals in the juices." I thought it would be fun and perhaps useful to create a web page that debunks these myths. If you have any favorites I'd love to hear them. If possible, please include some information or references to back up your "myth-busting" opinion. I want this web page to be objective with research and citations backing it up. Thanks, -- Peter Aitken Remove the crap from my email address before using. |
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Peter Aitken wrote:
> There are many "kitchen myths" that you hear regularly - ideas about cooking > and food that are known to be false but seem to have a life of their own. > For example, "searing meat seals in the juices." I thought it would be fun > and perhaps useful to create a web page that debunks these myths. If you > have any favorites I'd love to hear them. If possible, please include some > information or references to back up your "myth-busting" opinion. I want > this web page to be objective with research and citations backing it up. You mentioned my all time fave, "Searing seals in juices". Here's a few quick ones that come to mind. ------------------------------------------------------ This applies to amoking foods: "Meat no longer takes up smoke flavor above an internal temp of 140 F" This is a confusion between smoke flavor and formation of smoke ring. It's the smoke ring formation that ceases at 140 F. Although the law of diminishing return applies, meat continues to take up smoke flavor as long as it's in the presence of smoke. ------------------------------------------------------ Substituting salt types: "When substituting kosher salt for table salt, use twice as much" This was covered in a thread yesterday. It's closer to an extra 20%, not an extra 100%. ------------------------------------------------------ Applies to goofy nutritional dogmas, depending food religion: "Fat is harmful" "Carbs are harmful" "Sugar is poisonous" No single nutient is evil in and of itself. Hey this is fun! -- Reg email: RegForte (at) (that free MS email service) (dot) com |
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![]() "Reg" > wrote in message m... > Peter Aitken wrote: > > > There are many "kitchen myths" that you hear regularly - ideas about cooking > > and food that are known to be false but seem to have a life of their own. > > For example, "searing meat seals in the juices." I thought it would be fun > > and perhaps useful to create a web page that debunks these myths. If you > > have any favorites I'd love to hear them. If possible, please include some > > information or references to back up your "myth-busting" opinion. I want > > this web page to be objective with research and citations backing it up. > > You mentioned my all time fave, "Searing seals in juices". Here's > a few quick ones that come to mind. > > ------------------------------------------------------ > This applies to amoking foods: > > "Meat no longer takes up smoke flavor above an internal temp of 140 F" > > This is a confusion between smoke flavor and formation of smoke ring. > It's the smoke ring formation that ceases at 140 F. Although > the law of diminishing return applies, meat continues to take > up smoke flavor as long as it's in the presence of smoke. > ------------------------------------------------------ > Substituting salt types: > > "When substituting kosher salt for table salt, use twice as much" > > This was covered in a thread yesterday. It's closer to an extra > 20%, not an extra 100%. I looked at yesterday's thread and didn't find this conclusion. But based on Cook's Illustrated, the factor of 2 is correct. At least for Diamond Crystal Kosher salt. Morton's is a little less than this. Keepo in mind, the measurement used for this to apply is volume (cups, tablespoons, etc.) NOT weight. |
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![]() "Reg" > wrote in message m... > ------------------------------------------------------ > This applies to amoking foods: > > "Meat no longer takes up smoke flavor above an internal temp of 140 F" > > This is a confusion between smoke flavor and formation of smoke ring. > It's the smoke ring formation that ceases at 140 F. Although > the law of diminishing return applies, meat continues to take > up smoke flavor as long as it's in the presence of smoke. I agree that the 140º can be mythical, but having done 2 shoulders at the same time, one finished on the smoker, the other taken in to the kitchen oven (hadda make room for ribs), I detected no difference in smoke flavor between the 2. Now, if we're talking cold smoking, that's another matter. I think it's true that there is only so much smoke flavor a piece of meat can absorb while hot smoking. > ------------------------------------------------------ > Substituting salt types: > > "When substituting kosher salt for table salt, use twice as much" > > This was covered in a thread yesterday. It's closer to an extra > 20%, not an extra 100%. Right, and that can easily be proven by actually adding that much more salt. ouch. Jack Fable |
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On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:16:06 GMT, "Jack Schidt®"
> wrote: >I agree that the 140º can be mythical, but having done 2 shoulders at the >same time, one finished on the smoker, the other taken in to the kitchen >oven (hadda make room for ribs), I detected no difference in smoke flavor >between the 2. May you burn in hell with such blasphemy! Did you wrap it in foil, too? -sw |
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![]() "Steve Wertz" > wrote in message ... > On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:16:06 GMT, "Jack Schidt®" > > wrote: > > >I agree that the 140º can be mythical, but having done 2 shoulders at the > >same time, one finished on the smoker, the other taken in to the kitchen > >oven (hadda make room for ribs), I detected no difference in smoke flavor > >between the 2. > > May you burn in hell with such blasphemy! Did you wrap it in foil, > too? > > -sw I did not wrap it in foil and I'm still working on your hate mail. Sorry, I'm behind schedule. Jack Gas |
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Beans cooked with salt will be hard. That one cracks me up.
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Yukon Cornelius wrote:
> Beans cooked with salt will be hard. That one cracks me up. Was the pun intended?... ~john! -- What was it like to see - the face of your own stability - suddenly look away... |
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Reg wrote:
> Peter Aitken wrote: > > > There are many "kitchen myths" that you hear regularly - ideas about cooking > > and food that are known to be false but seem to have a life of their own. > > For example, "searing meat seals in the juices." I thought it would be fun > > and perhaps useful to create a web page that debunks these myths. If you > > have any favorites I'd love to hear them. If possible, please include some > > information or references to back up your "myth-busting" opinion. I want > > this web page to be objective with research and citations backing it up. > > You mentioned my all time fave, "Searing seals in juices". Here's > a few quick ones that come to mind. > > ------------------------------------------------------ > This applies to amoking foods: > > "Meat no longer takes up smoke flavor above an internal temp of 140 F" > > This is a confusion between smoke flavor and formation of smoke ring. > It's the smoke ring formation that ceases at 140 F. Although > the law of diminishing return applies, meat continues to take > up smoke flavor as long as it's in the presence of smoke. > ------------------------------------------------------ > Substituting salt types: > > "When substituting kosher salt for table salt, use twice as much" > > This was covered in a thread yesterday. It's closer to an extra > 20%, not an extra 100%. > ------------------------------------------------------ > Applies to goofy nutritional dogmas, depending food religion: > > "Fat is harmful" "Carbs are harmful" "Sugar is poisonous" > > No single nutient is evil in and of itself. > > Hey this is fun! > > -- > Reg email: RegForte (at) (that free MS email service) (dot) com How about washing wooden utensils and things with soapy water will somehow spoil them. My MIL, may she rest in peace, said she *never* washed her cutting board. So far as I could see she never disinfected it in any other way either. Gack, the germs! I wash with soap & water, but don't let them soak, air dry, then oil if desired. Spoons & cutting boards I don't bother with the oiling. Edrena |
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![]() "Peter Aitken" > wrote in message news ![]() > There are many "kitchen myths" that you hear regularly - ideas about cooking > and food that are known to be false but seem to have a life of their own. > For example, "searing meat seals in the juices." I thought it would be fun > and perhaps useful to create a web page that debunks these myths. If you > have any favorites I'd love to hear them. If possible, please include some > information or references to back up your "myth-busting" opinion. I want > this web page to be objective with research and citations backing it up. > > Thanks, > > -- > Peter Aitken Not a bad idea however one should offer a plausable explination why a particular action is advisable or a full explanation. Dimitri From Americas test Kitchen: What is the Maillard Reaction? Browning is very important when cooking meat, but not for the reason that you might think. For at least a hundred years, cooks have been taught that searing, or browning, seals in juices. But it doesn't. Harold McGee, the author of On Food and Cooking, demonstrated conclusively that meat loses about the same amount of juice during cooking whether it is seared or not. So why brown meat? Because it creates a tremendous amount of flavor. This happens through a process called the Maillard reaction, named after the French chemist who first described it in the early 1900s. The Maillard reaction occurs when the amino acids (protein components) and sugars in meat (or almost any other food) are subjected to heat, which causes them to combine. In the process, literally hundreds of different flavor compounds are created. These compounds in turn break down to form yet more new flavor compounds, and so on and so on and so on. It's kind of like rabbits multiplying. As it turns out, each type of food has a very distinctive set of flavor compounds that are formed during the Maillard reaction. In fact, it is these same compounds that flavor scientists have used over the years to create artificial flavors. |
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In article > , "Peter Aitken"
> writes: >There are many "kitchen myths" that you hear regularly - ideas about cooking >and food that are known to be false but seem to have a life of their own. >For example, "searing meat seals in the juices." I thought it would be fun >and perhaps useful to create a web page that debunks these myths. If you >have any favorites I'd love to hear them. If possible, please include some >information or references to back up your "myth-busting" opinion. I want >this web page to be objective with research and citations backing it up. You're a bit late... there are literally thousands of Websites dedicated to <Kitchen Myths>. Matching Sites: Page 1 of 7934 Kitchen Myths That Can Make You Sick! - Kitchen Myths That Can Make You Sick! By Diane Welland MS, RD. ... Here are a few of the more unhealthy kitchen myths and why theyre not so hot. ... http://www.usfoodservice.com/service...ealthnext/spri ng_2001/article1.html Amazon.com: Books: What Einstein Told His Cook: Kitchen Science ... - ... There is one downfall I can see for other readers and that is the way in which in dispells well known and oft used kitchen myths. ... http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...11836?v=glance Kitchen superstition & myths - ... Kitchen superstition and myths. Here are some kitchen, cooking and food related superstitions and history or traditional background: Knives. ... http://www.angelfire.com/biz6/Psyteric/Kitmyths.html Discovery - Kitchen Chemistry - ... happens to be one of my pet topics; the answer of course is that there is no really good reason, except tradition (see the article on kitchen myths to find out ... http://www.discoverychannel.co.uk/ki...ce_kitchen.htm Discovery - Kitchen Chemistry - Exploding Kitchen Myths, ... http://www.discoverychannel.co.uk/ki...chen_myths.htm Page: 1 2 3 4 5 next >> ---= BOYCOTT FRENCH--GERMAN (belgium) =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- Sheldon ```````````` "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." |
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Peter Aitken > wrote:
> There are many "kitchen myths" that you hear regularly - ideas about cooking > and food that are known to be false but seem to have a life of their own. > For example, "searing meat seals in the juices." I thought it would be fun > and perhaps useful to create a web page that debunks these myths. If you > have any favorites I'd love to hear them. If possible, please include some > information or references to back up your "myth-busting" opinion. I want > this web page to be objective with research and citations backing it up. What about the gajillion ways to not tear up when cutting onion? I was told hold a wooden matchstick in my mouth (not lit). Still hasn't worked. -- 'Tis Herself |
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On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 18:19:04 +0100, Herself wrote:
> Peter Aitken > wrote: > >> There are many "kitchen myths" that you hear regularly - ideas about cooking >> and food that are known to be false but seem to have a life of their own. >> For example, "searing meat seals in the juices." I thought it would be fun >> and perhaps useful to create a web page that debunks these myths. If you >> have any favorites I'd love to hear them. If possible, please include some >> information or references to back up your "myth-busting" opinion. I want >> this web page to be objective with research and citations backing it up. > > What about the gajillion ways to not tear up when cutting onion? I was > told hold a wooden matchstick in my mouth (not lit). Still hasn't > worked. Plug your nose. Use a swimmers nose plug or clothes pin. Tony |
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TonyP > wrote:
> Plug your nose. Use a swimmers nose plug or clothes pin. Has that worked for you? I'm not going to do it if it hasn't :-). -- 'Tis Herself |
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On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:53:55 +0100, Herself wrote:
> TonyP > wrote: > >> Plug your nose. Use a swimmers nose plug or clothes pin. > > Has that worked for you? I'm not going to do it if it hasn't :-). Yes it does work, looks silly though but so does crying for no reason. ![]() Tony |
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On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:31:53 GMT, TonyP > wrote:
>On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 20:53:55 +0100, Herself wrote: > >> TonyP > wrote: >> >>> Plug your nose. Use a swimmers nose plug or clothes pin. >> >> Has that worked for you? I'm not going to do it if it hasn't :-). > >Yes it does work, looks silly though but so does crying for no >reason. ![]() Why not just breathe through your mouth? -sw |
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Herself > wrote:
>What about the gajillion ways to not tear up when cutting onion? I was >told hold a wooden matchstick in my mouth (not lit). Still hasn't >worked. Do what I do: buy a house with a central-air register behind your head. The fumes blow away from you and you wonder what all these fools are doing whining about slicing onions. --Blair "Weaklings." |
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Blair P. Houghton > wrote:
> Herself > wrote: > >What about the gajillion ways to not tear up when cutting onion? I was > >told hold a wooden matchstick in my mouth (not lit). Still hasn't > >worked. > > Do what I do: buy a house with a central-air register > behind your head. The fumes blow away from you and > you wonder what all these fools are doing whining about > slicing onions. And then pick the bits of dust off the chopped onion? :-) -- 'Tis Herself |
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Herself > wrote:
>Blair P. Houghton > wrote: > >> Herself > wrote: >> >What about the gajillion ways to not tear up when cutting onion? I was >> >told hold a wooden matchstick in my mouth (not lit). Still hasn't >> >worked. >> >> Do what I do: buy a house with a central-air register >> behind your head. The fumes blow away from you and >> you wonder what all these fools are doing whining about >> slicing onions. > >And then pick the bits of dust off the chopped onion? :-) What do you think gravity is doing when the air isn't blowing? You might as well get some onions sliced in the meantime. --Blair "No sweat." |
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Blair P. Houghton > wrote:
> Herself > wrote: > >Blair P. Houghton > wrote: > > > >> Herself > wrote: > >> >What about the gajillion ways to not tear up when cutting onion? I was > >> >told hold a wooden matchstick in my mouth (not lit). Still hasn't > >> >worked. > >> > >> Do what I do: buy a house with a central-air register > >> behind your head. The fumes blow away from you and > >> you wonder what all these fools are doing whining about > >> slicing onions. > > > >And then pick the bits of dust off the chopped onion? :-) > > What do you think gravity is doing when the air isn't blowing? > > You might as well get some onions sliced in the meantime. Yeah, but I'm not installing central air here...the workmen would think I'm nuts :-). -- 'Tis Herself |
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On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 16:03:33 GMT, "Peter Aitken"
> wrote: >There are many "kitchen myths" that you hear regularly - ideas about cooking >and food that are known to be false but seem to have a life of their own. >For example, "searing meat seals in the juices." I thought it would be fun >and perhaps useful to create a web page that debunks these myths. If you >have any favorites I'd love to hear them. If possible, please include some >information or references to back up your "myth-busting" opinion. I want >this web page to be objective with research and citations backing it up. "If you put the pit into the bowl, stored guacamole won't turn brown." The guacamole immediately adjacent to the pit won't turn brown because the pit prevents air from getting to it. Otherwise, the oxidation process turns the exposed surfaces brown, just as it does on apples and other fruits. |
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"Peter Aitken" > wrote in message
news ![]() > There are many "kitchen myths" that you hear regularly - ideas about cooking > and food that are known to be false but seem to have a life of their own. > For example, "searing meat seals in the juices." I thought it would be fun > and perhaps useful to create a web page that debunks these myths. If you > have any favorites I'd love to hear them. I have a favorite, but it's because I came here thinking it was true. I'm sorry to say I don't remember why, but I no longer believe that cold water boils faster than hot water. Cate |
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Cate wrote:
> I'm sorry to say I don't remember why, but I no longer believe that cold > water boils faster than hot water. Ya' ever peeked inside a hot water heater?... That should be more than enough reason not to cook with hot water... ~john! -- What was it like to see - the face of your own stability - suddenly look away... |
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levelwave wrote:
> Cate wrote: > >> I'm sorry to say I don't remember why, but I no longer believe that cold >> water boils faster than hot water. > > > > Ya' ever peeked inside a hot water heater?... That should be more than > enough reason not to cook with hot water... > > ~john! > > You mean all that nasty gunk that settles in the bottom of the water heater? It's all still dissolved and/or suspended in your cold water. The hot water is cleaner! Best regards, Bob |
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levelwave > wrote in message >...
> Cate wrote: > > > I'm sorry to say I don't remember why, but I no longer believe that cold > > water boils faster than hot water. > > > Ya' ever peeked inside a hot water heater?... That should be more than > enough reason not to cook with hot water... > > ~john! My Grandma always told me to start out with cold water but never explained why. John I believe you have offered me an epiphany. Thanks. |
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Never put bananas in the refrigerator. They'll become inedible.
(The skins will darken, but refrigeration slows ripening on bananas the same as it does other fruits. The insides will be fine.) --Lia Peter Aitken wrote: > There are many "kitchen myths" that you hear regularly - ideas about cooking > and food that are known to be false but seem to have a life of their own. > For example, "searing meat seals in the juices." I thought it would be fun > and perhaps useful to create a web page that debunks these myths. If you > have any favorites I'd love to hear them. If possible, please include some > information or references to back up your "myth-busting" opinion. I want > this web page to be objective with research and citations backing it up. > > Thanks, > |
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On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 16:03:33 GMT, "Peter Aitken"
> wrote: >There are many "kitchen myths" that you hear regularly - ideas about cooking >and food that are known to be false but seem to have a life of their own. >For example, "searing meat seals in the juices." I thought it would be fun >and perhaps useful to create a web page that debunks these myths. If you >have any favorites I'd love to hear them. If possible, please include some >information or references to back up your "myth-busting" opinion. I want >this web page to be objective with research and citations backing it up. I have the opposite interest; I want to make up a kitchen myth and have it spread by a lot of people. Just think of the person who came up with "cold water boils faster than hot water" snickering as the myth went around. Why should they have all the fun? OK, here's mine: For the smoothest, lump-free white sauces and gravies, stir counterclockwise. Let's see how that one does :> Sue(tm) Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself! |
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Curly Sue > wrote:
> OK, here's mine: > For the smoothest, lump-free white sauces and gravies, stir > counterclockwise. Well, of course, but remember to reverse that in the Southern Hemisphere. Bill Ranck Blacksburg, Va. |
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![]() > If you >>have any favorites I'd love to hear them. How about that whole plastic/glass cutting boards vs. wooden ones thing? Air drying vs. dishtowels. Dawn |
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![]() Curly Sue wrote: > On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 16:03:33 GMT, "Peter Aitken" > > wrote: > > >>There are many "kitchen myths" that you hear regularly - ideas about cooking >>and food that are known to be false but seem to have a life of their own. >>For example, "searing meat seals in the juices." I thought it would be fun >>and perhaps useful to create a web page that debunks these myths. If you >>have any favorites I'd love to hear them. If possible, please include some >>information or references to back up your "myth-busting" opinion. I want >>this web page to be objective with research and citations backing it up. > > > I have the opposite interest; I want to make up a kitchen myth and > have it spread by a lot of people. Just think of the person who came > up with "cold water boils faster than hot water" snickering as the > myth went around. Why should they have all the fun? > > OK, here's mine: > > For the smoothest, lump-free white sauces and gravies, stir > counterclockwise. > > Let's see how that one does :> > > Sue(tm) > Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself! But what of those down under? Should they stir clockwise???? -- Alan "If you reject the food, ignore the customs, fear the religion, and avoid the people, you might better stay home." --James Michener |
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On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 02:45:21 GMT, alzelt
> wrote: > > >Curly Sue wrote: > >> On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 16:03:33 GMT, "Peter Aitken" >> > wrote: >> >> >>>There are many "kitchen myths" that you hear regularly - ideas about cooking >>>and food that are known to be false but seem to have a life of their own. >>>For example, "searing meat seals in the juices." I thought it would be fun >>>and perhaps useful to create a web page that debunks these myths. If you >>>have any favorites I'd love to hear them. If possible, please include some >>>information or references to back up your "myth-busting" opinion. I want >>>this web page to be objective with research and citations backing it up. >> >> >> I have the opposite interest; I want to make up a kitchen myth and >> have it spread by a lot of people. Just think of the person who came >> up with "cold water boils faster than hot water" snickering as the >> myth went around. Why should they have all the fun? >> >> OK, here's mine: >> >> For the smoothest, lump-free white sauces and gravies, stir >> counterclockwise. >> >> Let's see how that one does :> >> >> Sue(tm) >> Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself! > >But what of those down under? Should they stir clockwise???? >-- >Alan Of course. But with their left hand. (Unless they're left-handed, then it has to be with the right hand). Sue(tm) Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself! |
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![]() Peter Aitken wrote: > There are many "kitchen myths" that you hear regularly - ideas about cooking > and food that are known to be false but seem to have a life of their own. > For example, "searing meat seals in the juices." I thought it would be fun > and perhaps useful to create a web page that debunks these myths. If you > have any favorites I'd love to hear them. If possible, please include some > information or references to back up your "myth-busting" opinion. I want > this web page to be objective with research and citations backing it up. > > Thanks, > > Watching a pot makes the water boil faster-particularly if constantly stirred. |
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Peter Aitken wrote:
> There are many "kitchen myths" that you hear regularly - ideas about cooking > and food that are known to be false but seem to have a life of their own. > For example, "searing meat seals in the juices." I thought it would be fun > and perhaps useful to create a web page that debunks these myths. If you > have any favorites I'd love to hear them. If possible, please include some > information or references to back up your "myth-busting" opinion. I want > this web page to be objective with research and citations backing it up. A drop of oil in the pasta water keeps the pasta from sticking... Chili doesn't have beans in it... ~john! -- What was it like to see - the face of your own stability - suddenly look away... |
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>A drop of oil in the pasta water keeps the pasta from sticking...
That's a good one. Oil on top of water, pasta under water...hmm...why doesn't that work? Like it's a big chore to stir it twice while it's cooking. |
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![]() levelwave wrote: > Peter Aitken wrote: > >> There are many "kitchen myths" that you hear regularly - ideas about >> cooking >> and food that are known to be false but seem to have a life of their own. >> For example, "searing meat seals in the juices." I thought it would be >> fun >> and perhaps useful to create a web page that debunks these myths. If you >> have any favorites I'd love to hear them. If possible, please include >> some >> information or references to back up your "myth-busting" opinion. I want >> this web page to be objective with research and citations backing it up. > > > > A drop of oil in the pasta water keeps the pasta from sticking... > > Chili doesn't have beans in it... > Why are you trying to start a new myth!!! -- Alan "If you reject the food, ignore the customs, fear the religion, and avoid the people, you might better stay home." --James Michener |
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levelwave > wrote in message >...
> Peter Aitken wrote: > > > There are many "kitchen myths" that you hear regularly - ideas about cooking > > and food that are known to be false but seem to have a life of their own. > > For example, "searing meat seals in the juices." I thought it would be fun > > and perhaps useful to create a web page that debunks these myths. If you > > have any favorites I'd love to hear them. If possible, please include some > > information or references to back up your "myth-busting" opinion. I want > > this web page to be objective with research and citations backing it up. > > > A drop of oil in the pasta water keeps the pasta from sticking... > > Chili doesn't have beans in it... > > ~john! Not so much cooking but cooking related. Add egg shells to you garbage disposal to sharpen the blades. Any understanding of what happens down there would debunk this myth. Cook pork till it is well done to kill of the virus that causes some type of worm (sorry can't remember what the name is and I am not about to go search the internet and come back to give you all the name just so that I may have a facade of intellegence, you all know who you are). All I have to support this is what Alton Brown said. |
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![]() Vince Poroke wrote: > levelwave > wrote in message >... > >>Peter Aitken wrote: >> >> >>>There are many "kitchen myths" that you hear regularly - ideas about cooking >>>and food that are known to be false but seem to have a life of their own. >>>For example, "searing meat seals in the juices." I thought it would be fun >>>and perhaps useful to create a web page that debunks these myths. If you >>>have any favorites I'd love to hear them. If possible, please include some >>>information or references to back up your "myth-busting" opinion. I want >>>this web page to be objective with research and citations backing it up. >>> >> >>A drop of oil in the pasta water keeps the pasta from sticking... >> >>Chili doesn't have beans in it... >> >>~john! >> > > Not so much cooking but cooking related. Add egg shells to you > garbage disposal to sharpen the blades. Any understanding of what > happens down there would debunk this myth. Cook pork till it is well > done to kill of the virus that causes some type of worm (sorry can't > remember what the name is and I am not about to go search the internet > and come back to give you all the name just so that I may have a > facade of intellegence, you all know who you are). All I have to > support this is what Alton Brown said. > trichinosis<sp> |
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