Oh pshaw, on Thu 06 Dec 2007 11:41:52a, ChattyCathy meant to say...

> Terry wrote:
>>
>> My coffeemaker is plugged in constantly and used every morning,
>> sometimes in the afternoon. We have two microwaves; one is near the
>> table so that food that's gotten cold can be reheated conveniently.
>> Were it not for those two items, my food processor would get the
>> thumbs-up for most use. Lately it's made two large batches of hummus
>> each week, plus it's used to make banana bread, grind breadcrumbs and
>> other odds and ends.
>>
>> The Kitchen Aid stand mixer is also on the counter, ready for use at a
>> moment's notice, as it has been for the last fifteen years or
>> thereabouts. It's used less these days as I'm eating fewer carbs...
>
> Had to check which ones were "plugged in" all the time - 6 outta 7. I
> swap the juicer with the blender when required (got an adapter block)
>
> Which brings me to another "pet peeve" of mine.... Why don't building
> contractors ever install enough plug-points in a kitchen? This kitchen
> is the closest I have come to 'almost' enough of them.
>
> Thanks for the cool survey BTW
>

Some do, Cathy. Our current kitchen has 6 double wall outlets at regular
intervals around the counter. There are an addition 2 double outlets
installed on the island, one at each end. These were not special order,
but rather a standard with this house.

What we don't have are wall outlets in any of our rooms that are controlled
by a wall switch. What we do have is 1 wall switch per room which controls
a ceiling outlet. Since we opted to install ceiling fans in each room
(except the dining room and kitchen), there is no way to turn on a lamp in
those rooms other than going to the lamp itself and using its switch.
There are some wireless control options I've been looking at to remedy this
"dark" situation.

--
Wayne Boatwright

Date: Thu, 12/6/2007

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"Felice" > wrote

> "Nancy Young" > wrote

>> I would think that if you drink coffee or tea, those appliances
>> will be the most often used. The only appliances I have on
>> the counter, plugged in (and even then they are in an appliance
>> garage) are the coffee maker and a toaster. Everything else
>> is put away.

> A competition?

Haha! No, no competition, not at all. My desire not to see
appliances on the counter ends at my own kitchen

>OK, on the counters and ready to go: microwave,

My microwave is built in, over the stove.

> toaster oven,

Mine is unused, taking up closet space. I'm sure I need
to take it over to the food bank so they can give it to
someone who needs it.

> coffeemaker, breadmaker, standing/hand/wand mixers, blender, large/small
> food processors.
>
> I'm ashamed of myself.

How can you live with yourself? (laugh) You're too funny.

nancy

Cshenk schrieb :
<snip>
> Grin, next survey suggestion? What manual items which could be electric, do
> you use most?
>
> Possible answers:
> Can Opener
Yes.
> Hand chopper (Various types)
Yes.
> Whisk and/or manual beater
Yes.
> Stovetop tea or coffee pot
Nope. Espresso-machine needed for survival ;-)
> Pot on stove for rice
Yes.
> Charcol grill (as opposed to propane or electric)
Hard to operate in the kitchen; but outside, yes ;-)
> Vegetable peeler
Yes.
> meat grinder
Yes.
> Stovetop Stockpot (as opposed to crockpot)
Yes.
>
> Second question: Of the above, how many get used at least twice a week?
> 1
> 2
> 3
> 4
Daily.
> 5
> 6
> 7
> 8
> 9
>
The rest is variable; rxcept for the hand-chopper.

> (I'm a 4 but the only 2 I don't do there is the rice or stock on the stove
> excet for the occasonal adobo-chicken stock which is a byproduct of making my
> tye of adobo chicken)
I read that as "tied adobo chicken". Now I need a bondage cooking book ... ;-)

Cheers,

Michael Kuettner

Oh pshaw, on Thu 06 Dec 2007 11:50:20a, Ophelia meant to say...

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> Oh pshaw, on Thu 06 Dec 2007 09:33:48a, ChattyCathy meant to say...
>>
>>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/
>>>
>>> Thanks go to Terry "Prfesser" for suggesting (some) of this survey.
>>
>> I just check my countertop, and the following are all present and
>> ready for use, but not all plugged in (for safety reasons).
>>
>> countertop microwave
>> over the range microwave
>> coffee maker
>> toaster
>> toaster oven (never used for toast)
>> mini food processor
>> spice grinder
>> blender (standard not stick)
>> malt mixer
>> stand mixer
>> large food processor
>>
>> All of these are used on a regular basis, although not all of them
>> weekly. Some are used daily.
>
> What is a malt mixer please Wayne?
>
>
>

It's for making milkshakes and malted milkshakes, although it makes a mean
pancake batter, too.

The one I have is a vintage one from the 1930s, which were commonlyh found
in drug store soda fountains and luncheonettes.

This one looks exactly like mine:

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=823k6fm&s=0

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Date: Thu, 12(XII)/6(VI)/2007(MMVII)

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Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> Oh pshaw, on Thu 06 Dec 2007 11:41:52a, ChattyCathy meant to say...

>>
>> Which brings me to another "pet peeve" of mine.... Why don't building
>> contractors ever install enough plug-points in a kitchen? This kitchen
>> is the closest I have come to 'almost' enough of them.

> Some do, Cathy. Our current kitchen has 6 double wall outlets at regular
> intervals around the counter. There are an addition 2 double outlets
> installed on the island, one at each end. These were not special order,
> but rather a standard with this house.

Hmm. I just checked the kitchen. I have 3 double outlets + the adapter
block which extends it by another 4 plug-points.... But this house is 19
years old, so I guess in "those days" it was considered more than enough.
>
> What we don't have are wall outlets in any of our rooms that are controlled
> by a wall switch. What we do have is 1 wall switch per room which controls
> a ceiling outlet. Since we opted to install ceiling fans in each room
> (except the dining room and kitchen), there is no way to turn on a lamp in
> those rooms other than going to the lamp itself and using its switch.
> There are some wireless control options I've been looking at to remedy this
> "dark" situation.
>
Funny enough, rest of the house is fine for things like light switches
etc.. In fact there is an abundance of "two-way" switches for lights and
the ceiling fans.... And all the bedrooms have two double outlets each,
so does the dining room.
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

Garlic: the element without which life as we know it would be impossible

Oh pshaw, on Thu 06 Dec 2007 11:57:27a, Michael Kuettner meant to say...

>
> Cshenk schrieb :
> <snip>
>> Grin, next survey suggestion? What manual items which could be
>> electric, do you use most?
>>
>> Possible answers:
>> Can Opener
> Yes.
>> Hand chopper (Various types) Yes.
>> Whisk and/or manual beater Yes.
>> Stovetop tea or coffee pot Nope. Espresso-machine needed for survival
>> ;-) Pot on stove for rice Yes.
>> Charcol grill (as opposed to propane or electric) Hard to operate in
>> the kitchen; but outside, yes ;-) Vegetable peeler
> Yes.
>> meat grinder
> Yes.
>> Stovetop Stockpot (as opposed to crockpot) Yes.
>>
>> Second question: Of the above, how many get used at least twice a week?
>> 1
>> 2
>> 3
>> 4
> Daily.
>> 5
>> 6
>> 7
>> 8
>> 9
>>
> The rest is variable; rxcept for the hand-chopper.
>
>> (I'm a 4 but the only 2 I don't do there is the rice or stock on the
>> stove excet for the occasonal adobo-chicken stock which is a byproduct
>> of making my tye of adobo chicken)
> I read that as "tied adobo chicken". Now I need a bondage cooking book
> ... ;-)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Michael Kuettner
>
>
>
>

Or perhaps it's tie-dyed adobo chicken, a very colorful variation?

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Date: Thu, 12(XII)/6(VI)/2007(MMVII)

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Felice wrote:
> "Nancy Young" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "ChattyCathy" > wrote
>>
>>> Nancy Young wrote:
>>>> "ChattyCathy" > wrote
>>>>
>>>>> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks go to Terry "Prfesser" for suggesting (some) of this
>>>>> survey.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, baby, hit me with a hat!
>>
>>> Consider yourself "hit" LOL!
>>
>> (laugh) Thanks!
>>
>>> Mine is the teakettle - big surprise....
>>
>> I would think that if you drink coffee or tea, those appliances
>> will be the most often used. The only appliances I have on
>> the counter, plugged in (and even then they are in an appliance
>> garage) are the coffee maker and a toaster. Everything else
>> is put away.
>>
>> nancy
>
> A competition? OK, on the counters and ready to go: microwave,
> toaster oven, coffeemaker, breadmaker, standing/hand/wand mixers,
> blender, large/small food processors.
>
> I'm ashamed of myself.
>
> Felice

No competition here! Plugged in and ready to go: microwave, bread toaster.
Any other small appliance is tucked away when not in use.

Jill

Oh pshaw, on Thu 06 Dec 2007 12:03:31p, ChattyCathy meant to say...

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> Oh pshaw, on Thu 06 Dec 2007 11:41:52a, ChattyCathy meant to say...
>
>>>
>>> Which brings me to another "pet peeve" of mine.... Why don't building
>>> contractors ever install enough plug-points in a kitchen? This kitchen
>>> is the closest I have come to 'almost' enough of them.
>
>> Some do, Cathy. Our current kitchen has 6 double wall outlets at
>> regular intervals around the counter. There are an addition 2 double
>> outlets installed on the island, one at each end. These were not
>> special order, but rather a standard with this house.
>
> Hmm. I just checked the kitchen. I have 3 double outlets + the adapter
> block which extends it by another 4 plug-points.... But this house is 19
> years old, so I guess in "those days" it was considered more than
> enough.

Age is probably the factor. There weren't as many dedicated foodies back
then, nor as many options in portable appliances.

>> What we don't have are wall outlets in any of our rooms that are
>> controlled by a wall switch. What we do have is 1 wall switch per room
>> which controls a ceiling outlet. Since we opted to install ceiling
>> fans in each room (except the dining room and kitchen), there is no way
>> to turn on a lamp in those rooms other than going to the lamp itself
>> and using its switch. There are some wireless control options I've
>> been looking at to remedy this "dark" situation.
>>
> Funny enough, rest of the house is fine for things like light switches
> etc.. In fact there is an abundance of "two-way" switches for lights and
> the ceiling fans.... And all the bedrooms have two double outlets each,
> so does the dining room.

We have lots of wall outlets in all the rooms, just none controlled by a
switch. I should have specified this with the builder. They probably
assumed that I would be installing ceiling lights. :-(

--
Wayne Boatwright

Date: Thu, 12(XII)/6(VI)/2007(MMVII)

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"Michael Kuettner" wrote
> Cshenk schrieb :
> <snip>
>> Grin, next survey suggestion? What manual items which could be electric,
>> do you use most?
>>
>> Possible answers:
>> Can Opener
> Yes.
Me too - Daily

>> Hand chopper (Various types)
> Yes.
Daily also

>> Whisk and/or manual beater
> Yes.
At least 2 times a week

>> Stovetop tea or coffee pot
> Nope. Espresso-machine needed for survival ;-)
Hehehehe daily, we do hot tea at home but I do coffee at work. fancy vanila
bean etc types

>> Pot on stove for rice
> Yes.
Nope, we eat rice at least once a day here so a ricemaker is needed for
survival <grin>.

>> Charcol grill (as opposed to propane or electric)
> Hard to operate in the kitchen; but outside, yes ;-)
Have built in grill out in the backyard. Used 3-4 times a month except in
winter.

>> Vegetable peeler
> Yes.
Same here. Electric ones only make sense in a restraunt. I dont peel
potatoes (I like the skin) but enough other stuff crops up to make this a 1
time a week item

>> meat grinder
> Yes.
A rare use item for us but a toy we love. I am very happy with the manual
one. It took a long time to find one just right for our needs. We like to
grind our own ground beef at times and feel it is safer for 'steak tartar'
if we do that from a whole chunk.

>> Stovetop Stockpot (as opposed to crockpot)
> Yes.
Nope, except the Adobo-chicken. I had to when waiting for my stuff, but now
have the crockpots.


>> Second question: Of the above, how many get used at least twice a week?
>> 1
>> 2
>> 3
>> 4
> Daily.
4 for me too

>> 5
>> 6
>> 7
>> 8
>> 9
>>
> The rest is variable; rxcept for the hand-chopper.
>
>> (I'm a 4 but the only 2 I don't do there is the rice or stock on the
>> stove excet for the occasonal adobo-chicken stock which is a byproduct of
>> making my tye of adobo chicken)
> I read that as "tied adobo chicken". Now I need a bondage cooking book ...
> ;-)

Grin, oops.

On Dec 6, 1:52�pm, Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
> Oh pshaw, on Thu 06 Dec 2007 11:41:52a, ChattyCathy meant to say...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Terry wrote:
>
> >> My coffeemaker is plugged in constantly and used every morning,
> >> sometimes in the afternoon. �We have two microwaves; one is near the
> >> table so that food that's gotten cold can be reheated conveniently.
> >> Were it not for those two items, my food processor would get the
> >> thumbs-up for most use. �Lately it's made two large batches of hummus
> >> each week, plus it's used to make banana bread, grind breadcrumbs and
> >> other odds and ends.
>
> >> The Kitchen Aid stand mixer is also on the counter, ready for use at a
> >> moment's notice, as it has been for the last fifteen years or
> >> thereabouts. �It's used less these days as I'm eating fewer carbs...
>
> > Had to check which ones were "plugged in" all the time - 6 outta 7. I
> > swap the juicer with the blender when required (got an adapter block)
>
> > Which brings me to another "pet peeve" of mine.... Why don't building
> > contractors ever install enough plug-points in a kitchen? This kitchen
> > is the closest I have come to 'almost' enough of them.
>
> > Thanks for the cool survey BTW
>
> Some do, Cathy. �Our current kitchen has 6 double wall outlets at regular
> intervals around the counter. �There are an addition 2 double outlets
> installed on the island, one at each end. �These were not special order,
> but rather a standard with this house.
>
> What we don't have are wall outlets in any of our rooms that are controlled
> by a wall switch. �What we do have is 1 wall switch per room which controls
> a ceiling outlet. �Since we opted to install ceiling fans in each room
> (except the dining room and kitchen), there is no way to turn on a lamp in
> those rooms other than going to the lamp itself and using its switch. �
> There are some wireless control options I've been looking at to remedy this
> "dark" situation.

They're called night lights that come on at dusk and go off at dawn...
I have like 8 of them at stratigic points, even two in the basement so
the cats can find the mice... actually there's a light switch at the
foot of the stairs but it only controlls two lights, one at the top of
the stairs and one at the bottom of the stairs. But it's a large
basement and it's dark near where the other lights are located. Just
have to remember to turn those lights off, many times I've had to make
another trip back down and up again,16 steps each way. I like those
night lights, only needs a 4w bulb so costs only pennies a year to
operate.

Every room in my house has a switch operated ceiling light, even the
hallways, but with the night lights I don't need to flip all those
switches on just to go to the other end of the house. Newly built
houses have the switch operated outlet rather than a ceiling light..
costs less.

But anyone having a house built can sit down with the electrician and
specify all the electicals, there is no end to what one can have
beyond "to code".

If you really need to have a lamp come on when you enter a room there
are motion detector switches you can install between the lamp and bulb
that operate exactly like outdoor spots... as soon as you enter a room
the lamp turns on (if it's dark), when you leave the lamp turns off
when it detects no motion for a preset time... if you usually don't
return in a short time set it for 15 seconds, if you go back and forth
constantly set it for 15 minutes, or any increment inbetween. Of
course you can also get The Clapper.

"ChattyCathy" wrote
> Wayne Boatwright wrote:

>>> contractors ever install enough plug-points in a kitchen? This kitchen
>>> is the closest I have come to 'almost' enough of them.
>
>> Some do, Cathy. Our current kitchen has 6 double wall outlets at regular

> Hmm. I just checked the kitchen. I have 3 double outlets + the adapter
> block which extends it by another 4 plug-points.... But this house is 19
> years old, so I guess in "those days" it was considered more than enough.

I have 4 doubles and a single on the stove itself. One of the doubles has a
surge suppressing 8 outlet plug-in but we no longer have the type of kitchen
equipment to need that. It used to be for a rechargable hand mixer (Black
and decker wand), an electric can opener, and the breadmaker. One of the
outlets is a GFCI we had added as part of a package when we had the place
wired to add a disposal and a dishwasher.

House built 1962.

No outlets in either bathroom :-(

>> What we don't have are wall outlets in any of our rooms that are
>> controlled by a wall switch. What we do have is 1 wall switch per room
>> which controls a ceiling outlet. Since we opted to install ceiling fans
>> in each room

> Funny enough, rest of the house is fine for things like light switches
> etc.. In fact there is an abundance of "two-way" switches for lights and
> the ceiling fans.... And all the bedrooms have two double outlets each, so
> does the dining room.

I have one outlet per wall and some have 2 or more. My back porch has 19
double outlets and one 240v (grin). My built in bar has a 240v near the
ceiling (used to have an AC unit up there some long ago time) and 3 double
outlets. We plan to convert that to a computer kiosk.

My biggest problem is quite a few outlets in the bedrooms are still 2 prong
types.

Nancy Young wrote:
>
>
>
> > Mine is the teakettle - big surprise....
>
> I would think that if you drink coffee or tea, those appliances
> will be the most often used. The only appliances I have on
> the counter, plugged in (and even then they are in an appliance
> garage) are the coffee maker and a toaster. Everything else
> is put away.

Mine would be the espresso maker, followed by the toaster and kettle. I
don't usually make coffee in the drip machine unless I am making a whole
pot. If I am only making one or two cups of coffee it is espresso or I use
the French press. My counter is home to the drip coffee machine, the
espresso machine, the coffee grinder, microwave and toaster. I have mixed
feelings about the microwave. If it were to die I would probably never miss
it. The only time I have used it in the last month or two was to warm up a
cup of coffee. I would probably be better off having the extra counter
space.

"Wayne Boatwright" wrote

>>> (I'm a 4 but the only 2 I don't do there is the rice or stock on the
>>> stove excet for the occasonal adobo-chicken stock which is a byproduct
>>> of making my tye of adobo chicken)
>> I read that as "tied adobo chicken". Now I need a bondage cooking book

> Or perhaps it's tie-dyed adobo chicken, a very colorful variation?

Mommie, Wayne's picking on me! Make him stop! ;-)

Actually it's a real simple recipe. It's 2-3 TB Goya adobo seasoning in a
quart or near it of water and chicken. Just boil til the chicken starts
almost falling off the bones.

It's a homecomfort food from Carribean (sorry, cant spell that one,
dyslexia).

Oh pshaw, on Thu 06 Dec 2007 01:09:48p, Cshenk meant to say...

> "Wayne Boatwright" wrote
>
>>>> (I'm a 4 but the only 2 I don't do there is the rice or stock on the
>>>> stove excet for the occasonal adobo-chicken stock which is a byproduct
>>>> of making my tye of adobo chicken)
>>> I read that as "tied adobo chicken". Now I need a bondage cooking book
>
>> Or perhaps it's tie-dyed adobo chicken, a very colorful variation?
>
> Mommie, Wayne's picking on me! Make him stop! ;-)

Aw, poor baby!

> Actually it's a real simple recipe. It's 2-3 TB Goya adobo seasoning in
a
> quart or near it of water and chicken. Just boil til the chicken starts
> almost falling off the bones.
>
> It's a homecomfort food from Carribean (sorry, cant spell that one,
> dyslexia).
>
>
>

That sounds good, Carol. How do you serve it? What with usually?

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"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> Nancy Young wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > Mine is the teakettle - big surprise....
>>
>> I would think that if you drink coffee or tea, those appliances
>> will be the most often used. The only appliances I have on
>> the counter, plugged in (and even then they are in an appliance
>> garage) are the coffee maker and a toaster. Everything else
>> is put away.
>
> Mine would be the espresso maker, followed by the toaster and kettle. I
> don't usually make coffee in the drip machine unless I am making a whole
> pot. If I am only making one or two cups of coffee it is espresso or I use
> the French press. My counter is home to the drip coffee machine, the
> espresso machine, the coffee grinder, microwave and toaster. I have mixed
> feelings about the microwave. If it were to die I would probably never
> miss
> it. The only time I have used it in the last month or two was to warm up a
> cup of coffee. I would probably be better off having the extra counter
> space.


That is the way I felt about the toaster -- at last -- free from that
toaster on my counter! I 'do' use it everyday, but I find that I do not
need it to sit there 24/7. I don't like crumbs inside of closets and
pantries, etc., so what to do, what to do!

Finally, I decided to put it on a tray with edges to keep the crumbs from
falling off, on the bottom rack of a stainless steel prep table. It's easy
to pick up with the handled-tray and put onto the counter any time.

I really dislike having the microwave on the counter. Today, I've made
bread and soup is on its way and I've not used it today. What a waste of
space. I don't want one over the stove, so I don't know what choice there
really is. Bummer! At least it's not a huge microwave.

Dee Dee

Felice wrote:
>
> A competition? OK, on the counters and ready to go: microwave,
> toaster oven, coffeemaker, breadmaker, standing/hand/wand mixers,
> blender, large/small food processors.
>
> I'm ashamed of myself.
>
Felice

Oh, geez - my total clutter is: four canisters, food processor, bowl
with Splenda, liquid hand soap, French press, knife block w/knives,
mixer, toaster, three crocks full of wooden spoons, spatulas, etc.,
etc., two chopping blocks and (all sing now) a partridge in a pear tree,
somewhere, I'm sure.

Oh pshaw, on Thu 06 Dec 2007 01:50:03p, Dee.Dee meant to say...

> That is the way I felt about the toaster -- at last -- free from that
> toaster on my counter! I 'do' use it everyday, but I find that I do not
> need it to sit there 24/7. I don't like crumbs inside of closets and
> pantries, etc., so what to do, what to do!
>
> Finally, I decided to put it on a tray with edges to keep the crumbs
> from falling off, on the bottom rack of a stainless steel prep table.
> It's easy to pick up with the handled-tray and put onto the counter any
> time.

What a great idea!

> I really dislike having the microwave on the counter. Today, I've made
> bread and soup is on its way and I've not used it today. What a waste
> of space. I don't want one over the stove, so I don't know what choice
> there really is. Bummer! At least it's not a huge microwave.
>
> Dee Dee

You could have a built-in microwave. Many people do.

I use both of mine a great deal. Not to cook a meal in, mind you, but for
warming, melting, thawing, popcorn, etc. I do use it to cook veggies,
which works quite well for me. I like most veggies barely cooked and quite
crisp, so in go the veggies with a couple of spoons of water and they're
steamed quickly to perfection.

Both of mine have an adjustable and reliable "keep warm" setting, which I
often use since I don't have a warming drawer.

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Wayne Boatwright

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Oh pshaw, on Thu 06 Dec 2007 02:07:38p, Dora Crawford meant to say...

> Felice wrote:
>>
>> A competition? OK, on the counters and ready to go: microwave, toaster
>> oven, coffeemaker, breadmaker, standing/hand/wand mixers, blender,
>> large/small food processors.
>>
>> I'm ashamed of myself.
>>
> Felice
>
> Oh, geez - my total clutter is: four canisters, food processor, bowl
> with Splenda, liquid hand soap, French press, knife block w/knives,
> mixer, toaster, three crocks full of wooden spoons, spatulas, etc.,
> etc., two chopping blocks and (all sing now) a partridge in a pear tree,
> somewhere, I'm sure.
>
>

You win! :-)

--
Wayne Boatwright

Date: 12(XII)/6(VI)/07(MMVII)

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"Wayne Boatwright" wrote

>>> Or perhaps it's tie-dyed adobo chicken, a very colorful variation?
>>
>> Mommie, Wayne's picking on me! Make him stop! ;-)
>
> Aw, poor baby!

WHAAA! sniffle.

>> Actually it's a real simple recipe. It's 2-3 TB Goya adobo seasoning in
> a
>> quart or near it of water and chicken. Just boil til the chicken starts
>> almost falling off the bones.
>>
>> It's a homecomfort food from Carribean (sorry, cant spell that one,
>> dyslexia).

> That sounds good, Carol. How do you serve it? What with usually?

Rice and bok choy normally but can vary with my mood and what's in the
kitchen.

The Adobo Chicken is not a pretty dish made this way but it tastes like a
bit of heaven. I actually cook it with the skin on the chicken then grab
that hot right off the bird-bits in the pot. Disgusting dietary habit
revealed <grin>. It makes a better 'soup' thoiugh if you pull the skin off
first.

It's actually a lower-fat cookery trick as most of the fat will end in the
broth and you can then defat that. It also almost melts some of the
cartilage into a drinkable form (consomme looking 'soup' once chilled).
This is very good for you and is essentially the same as the osteo-flex type
stuff people buy but natural.

If you are on a sodium restricted diet, this is not a good dish for you. If
you are however not needing to restrict sodium, try it. Don't expect
'pretty' and do expect the leftovers to jellify in the 'soup'. They are
excellent cold. The 'soup' is very useful for stock. I've even used the
'soup' to boil pasta in and it was really good though an overload if at the
same meal with the chicken.

Ok, other things that match well as side dishes? Braised buttered cabbage,
potatoes (fixed many ways), carrots simmered with a little butter, peas,
green salads and a thousand islands dressing or a ranch one (vinegar ones
work too), yeast or soda breads, pasta/noodles/udon, seaweed salads, olive
salads, corn on the cob or canned corn, stewed tomatoes.

Charlotte adds: Koolaide ROCKS! Personally I think unsweet tea is better
this time!

On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 13:21:06 -0500, "Felice" >
wrote:


>A competition? OK, on the counters and ready to go: microwave, toaster oven,
>coffeemaker, breadmaker, standing/hand/wand mixers, blender, large/small
>food processors.
>
>I'm ashamed of myself.
>
>Felice
>

Don't be ashamed.

On my counter are 2 large food processors, a mini food processor, a
stand mixer, a blender that also has a food processor attachment, 2
coffee makers. Next to the countertop (sort of an extension, on a
cart) is the microwave, and a toaster oven, plus a bread warmer
(electric).

In the shelves behind the counter is an ice cream maker, an electric
frying pan, a deep fryer, a waffle iron, a crockpot, an electric
warming "tray", and a coffee warmer.

In the drawers under the window seat, I have two stick blenders, 2
coffee grinders (one is specifically for spices) and 2 hand mixers.
Oh, and a Chef's Choice knife sharpener.

And a breadmaker in another cabinet next to my counterspace.

Christine, running from Koko

"Dee.Dee" wrote:


> That is the way I felt about the toaster -- at last -- free from that
> toaster on my counter! I 'do' use it everyday, but I find that I do not
> need it to sit there 24/7. I don't like crumbs inside of closets and
> pantries, etc., so what to do, what to do!

I use my toaster almost every every day.... for one piece of toast. After
posting that I had a brain wave.... the next time I am cooking for a crowd
I am going to stash the microwave somewhere in the basement for the
duration. Then a few months later when I need <?> it I can go down and get
it, or possibly just use some other method.


> Finally, I decided to put it on a tray with edges to keep the crumbs from
> falling off, on the bottom rack of a stainless steel prep table. It's easy
> to pick up with the handled-tray and put onto the counter any time.

My mother used to keep her toaster in a large drawer. I was always afraid
that she would close the drawer while toasting something and burn down the
building.


> I really dislike having the microwave on the counter. Today, I've made
> bread and soup is on its way and I've not used it today. What a waste of
> space. I don't want one over the stove, so I don't know what choice there
> really is. Bummer! At least it's not a huge microwave.

Ditto. Mine is a fairly small one. I have never been fan of nuked food.
While it does have its uses, the most I usually use it for is to heat up
some coffee or milk for cocoa. There are other ways to do that, and for the
number of times I use it I don't think I would miss it. In fact, I am in
more need of counter space than a microwave. Maybe I could stick it in one
of the upper cupboards and run an extension cord to it once every 6 months.

Oh pshaw, on Thu 06 Dec 2007 02:20:24p, Cshenk meant to say...

>
> "Wayne Boatwright" wrote
>
>>>> Or perhaps it's tie-dyed adobo chicken, a very colorful variation?
>>>
>>> Mommie, Wayne's picking on me! Make him stop! ;-)
>>
>> Aw, poor baby!
>
> WHAAA! sniffle.
>
>>> Actually it's a real simple recipe. It's 2-3 TB Goya adobo seasoning
>>> in a quart or near it of water and chicken. Just boil til the chicken
>>> starts almost falling off the bones.
>>>
>>> It's a homecomfort food from Carribean (sorry, cant spell that one,
>>> dyslexia).
>
>> That sounds good, Carol. How do you serve it? What with usually?
>
> Rice and bok choy normally but can vary with my mood and what's in the
> kitchen.
>
> The Adobo Chicken is not a pretty dish made this way but it tastes like
> a bit of heaven. I actually cook it with the skin on the chicken then
> grab that hot right off the bird-bits in the pot. Disgusting dietary
> habit revealed <grin>. It makes a better 'soup' thoiugh if you pull the
> skin off first.
>
> It's actually a lower-fat cookery trick as most of the fat will end in
> the broth and you can then defat that. It also almost melts some of the
> cartilage into a drinkable form (consomme looking 'soup' once chilled).
> This is very good for you and is essentially the same as the osteo-flex
> type stuff people buy but natural.
>
> If you are on a sodium restricted diet, this is not a good dish for you.
> If you are however not needing to restrict sodium, try it. Don't
> expect 'pretty' and do expect the leftovers to jellify in the 'soup'.
> They are excellent cold. The 'soup' is very useful for stock. I've
> even used the 'soup' to boil pasta in and it was really good though an
> overload if at the same meal with the chicken.
>
> Ok, other things that match well as side dishes? Braised buttered
> cabbage, potatoes (fixed many ways), carrots simmered with a little
> butter, peas, green salads and a thousand islands dressing or a ranch
> one (vinegar ones work too), yeast or soda breads, pasta/noodles/udon,
> seaweed salads, olive salads, corn on the cob or canned corn, stewed
> tomatoes.
>
> Charlotte adds: Koolaide ROCKS! Personally I think unsweet tea is
> better this time!
>
>
>

Thanks, Carol. I do want to try this! I've saved all you comments and
method to follow. (I don't have to be particularly vigilant about sodium.)

I also vote for the unsweetened tea! :-)

--
Wayne Boatwright

Date: Dec 6th,2007

*******************************************
Countdown 'til Christmas
2wks 2dys 9hrs 30mins
*******************************************
Lord give me chastity - but not yet.
(Saint Augustine)
*******************************************

Cshenk schrieb :
> "Michael Kuettner" wrote
>> Cshenk schrieb :
>> <snip>
>>> Grin, next survey suggestion? What manual items which could be electric, do
>>> you use most?
>>>
>>> Possible answers:
>>> Can Opener
>> Yes.
> Me too - Daily
>
Not daily - maybe once a week in summertime.
Now, in winter, it get's used twice a week.


>>> Hand chopper (Various types)
>> Yes.
> Daily also
>
Almost daily.

>>> Whisk and/or manual beater
>> Yes.
> At least 2 times a week
>
Every day now. It's Christmas baking time over here...

>>> Stovetop tea or coffee pot
>> Nope. Espresso-machine needed for survival ;-)
> Hehehehe daily, we do hot tea at home but I do coffee at work. fancy vanila
> bean etc types
>
Ah, preaching water while drinking wine ? ;-)

>>> Pot on stove for rice
>> Yes.
> Nope, we eat rice at least once a day here so a ricemaker is needed for
> survival <grin>.
>
Rice is not often used here; Knödeln, noodles and potatos are the side-dishes

>>> Charcol grill (as opposed to propane or electric)
>> Hard to operate in the kitchen; but outside, yes ;-)
> Have built in grill out in the backyard. Used 3-4 times a month except in
> winter.
>
It's winter here ...

>>> Vegetable peeler
>> Yes.
> Same here. Electric ones only make sense in a restraunt. I dont peel
> potatoes (I like the skin) but enough other stuff crops up to make this a 1
> time a week item
>
Potatoes are always peeled over here. It's kind of an unwritten codex ;-)

>>> meat grinder
>> Yes.
> A rare use item for us but a toy we love. I am very happy with the manual
> one. It took a long time to find one just right for our needs. We like to
> grind our own ground beef at times and feel it is safer for 'steak tartar' if
> we do that from a whole chunk.
>
Mine is from my ur-grandmother. Easy to assemble and clean.
With wheels for bread, nuts, meat, etc.

>>> Stovetop Stockpot (as opposed to crockpot)
>> Yes.
> Nope, except the Adobo-chicken. I had to when waiting for my stuff, but now
> have the crockpots.
>
I was unclear here, sorry. My stockpot is just a big pot I cook stock in.

>
>>> Second question: Of the above, how many get used at least twice a week?
>>> 1
>>> 2
>>> 3
>>> 4
>> Daily.
> 4 for me too
>
See above ;-P
<snip>
>> I read that as "tied adobo chicken". Now I need a bondage cooking book ...
>> ;-)
>
> Grin, oops.
Well, when binding the bird for roasting, I'll just use hand-cuffs instead of
thread ;-)

Cheers,

Michael Kuettner

Nancy Young > wrote:

> "ChattyCathy" > wrote
> > Nancy Young wrote:


> > Mine is the teakettle - big surprise....

> I would think that if you drink coffee or tea, those appliances
> will be the most often used. The only appliances I have on
> the counter, plugged in (and even then they are in an appliance
> garage) are the coffee maker and a toaster. Everything else
> is put away.

I thought so too, until I thought about the the microwave. It
gets used 2 or 3 times per day in my house, but the coffee
maker usually only once. But, I don't think the microwave
should be considered a "small appliance" anyway. If it's
a built in, or has its own shelf it should have its own
electrical circuit. The code says "fixed appliances" and
the inspectors I've dealt with seem to think if it's
built in then it's a fixed appliance. I pretty much agree
with that, so that sort of kicks the microwave out of the
small appliance category.

I ended up selecting "hard to chose just one" because some
days the coffe maker is the only thing that gets used, and
others the toaster might see more use. It varies.

Bill Ranck
Blacksburg, Va.

ChattyCathy wrote:
>
> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/
>
> Thanks go to Terry "Prfesser" for suggesting (some) of this survey.
> --
> Cheers
> Chatty Cathy
>
> Garlic: the element without which life as we know it would be impossible

Interesting, I don't really think of the microwave as a "small kitchen
appliance", though I guess it is. I just think of it as another oven.
Beyond that the stand mixer probably gets the most use.

Out on the counter I have:

Stand mixer
Blender
Toaster
Coffee pot (perk)
Coffee maker (espresso)
Stick blender

A drink mixer and a Foodsaver are sometimes on the counter as well. The
microwave is on an upper shelf.

"Michael Kuettner" wrote

>>>>Grin, next survey suggestion? What manual items which could be
>>>>electric, do you use most?
>>>>
>>>> Possible answers:
>>>> Can Opener
>>> Yes.
>> Me too - Daily
>>
> Not daily - maybe once a week in summertime.
> Now, in winter, it get's used twice a week.

Ah yes, in Japan I did mostly fresh foods too in summer. I will do lots of
that here too in summer but got here in late fall.

>>>> Stovetop tea or coffee pot
>>> Nope. Espresso-machine needed for survival ;-)
>> Hehehehe daily, we do hot tea at home but I do coffee at work. fancy
>> vanila bean etc types
>>
> Ah, preaching water while drinking wine ? ;-)

Naw, fix big pot at work for all my guys. I drink just one cup or so
myself.

>
>>>> Pot on stove for rice
>>> Yes.
>> Nope, we eat rice at least once a day here so a ricemaker is needed for
>> survival <grin>.
>>
> Rice is not often used here; Knödeln, noodles and potatos are the
> side-dishes

Knodeln? = Noodles?

>>>> Charcol grill (as opposed to propane or electric)
>>> Hard to operate in the kitchen; but outside, yes ;-)
>> Have built in grill out in the backyard. Used 3-4 times a month except
>> in winter.
>>
> It's winter here ...

Same side of the equator as you so yes <g>.

> Potatoes are always peeled over here. It's kind of an unwritten codex ;-)

Hehe ok, I leave them as the great spirit made'em.

>>>> Stovetop Stockpot (as opposed to crockpot)
>>> Yes.
>> Nope, except the Adobo-chicken. I had to when waiting for my stuff, but
>> now have the crockpots.
>>
> I was unclear here, sorry. My stockpot is just a big pot I cook stock in.

Ok, same thing. Stove-top pot for making stoick fits you. Me, i make most
stocks in the crockpot. You'd know that possibly as a slow-cooker. Perhaps
you mght call it a dutch oven but the type with the ceramic removable insert
and a glass lid.


>> Grin, oops.
> Well, when binding the bird for roasting, I'll just use hand-cuffs instead
> of thread ;-)

Sneaky!

On Dec 6, 11:33 am, ChattyCathy > wrote:
> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/
>
Hard to choose. The coffeemaker is used once in the morning, the
microwave is used several times a day, and the toaster oven is used
numerous times daily. The bread machine gets a workout 2-3 times a
week, the yogurt maker once a week, and the mixer once or twice every
other week.

maxine, freezing in Boston

>
>> I really dislike having the microwave on the counter. Today, I've made
>> bread and soup is on its way and I've not used it today. What a waste
>> of space. I don't want one over the stove, so I don't know what choice
>> there really is. Bummer! At least it's not a huge microwave.
>>
>> Dee Dee


>
> You could have a built-in microwave. Many people do.




Our previous one was built in -- it was much larger. We took out the
cabinet it was in. We could build another/smaller one for it, but then we
would be trading a fooprint 'under' the microwave, for a taller 'print'
above the microwave.

Right now the microwave 'top' is used to set tall things on, versus having
the available counterspace underneath the microwave if it were housed
underneath a cabinet.

Indeed it would give a solid/unbroken piece of countertop if it were raised
off the countertop, but the space underneath the microwave would be almost
unusable as it would be so narrow/short. The problem being that I'm not
willing to give up any of my cabinets/space.

And most importantly, physically I cannot lift up or down anything over 2
lbs., which is actually not much. But I can lift them straight out. The
raised microwave previously was a real problem for me. :-((


The next time the microwave will be used will probably tomorrow to reheat
the soup. I think I'm going to keep a log of how many times I do use it.

Thanks for the suggestion; your suggestions always spur me on :-))
Dee Dee

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> "Dee.Dee" wrote:
>
>
>> That is the way I felt about the toaster -- at last -- free from that
>> toaster on my counter! I 'do' use it everyday, but I find that I do not
>> need it to sit there 24/7. I don't like crumbs inside of closets and
>> pantries, etc., so what to do, what to do!
>
> I use my toaster almost every every day.... for one piece of toast. After
> posting that I had a brain wave.... the next time I am cooking for a crowd
> I am going to stash the microwave somewhere in the basement for the
> duration. Then a few months later when I need <?> it I can go down and get
> it, or possibly just use some other method.
>
>
>> Finally, I decided to put it on a tray with edges to keep the crumbs from
>> falling off, on the bottom rack of a stainless steel prep table. It's
>> easy
>> to pick up with the handled-tray and put onto the counter any time.
>
> My mother used to keep her toaster in a large drawer. I was always afraid
> that she would close the drawer while toasting something and burn down the
> building.
>
>
>> I really dislike having the microwave on the counter. Today, I've made
>> bread and soup is on its way and I've not used it today. What a waste of
>> space. I don't want one over the stove, so I don't know what choice there
>> really is. Bummer! At least it's not a huge microwave.
>
> Ditto. Mine is a fairly small one. I have never been fan of nuked food.
> While it does have its uses, the most I usually use it for is to heat up
> some coffee or milk for cocoa. There are other ways to do that, and for
> the
> number of times I use it I don't think I would miss it. In fact, I am in
> more need of counter space than a microwave. Maybe I could stick it in one
> of the upper cupboards and run an extension cord to it once every 6
> months.


Thanks, Dave for your posting. I enjoyed reading it.
Dee Dee

Oh pshaw, on Thu 06 Dec 2007 07:09:55p, Dee.Dee meant to say...

>
>>
>>> I really dislike having the microwave on the counter. Today, I've
>>> made bread and soup is on its way and I've not used it today. What a
>>> waste of space. I don't want one over the stove, so I don't know what
>>> choice there really is. Bummer! At least it's not a huge microwave.
>>>
>>> Dee Dee
>
>
>>
>> You could have a built-in microwave. Many people do.
>
>
>
>
> Our previous one was built in -- it was much larger. We took out the
> cabinet it was in. We could build another/smaller one for it, but then
> we would be trading a fooprint 'under' the microwave, for a taller
> 'print' above the microwave.
>
> Right now the microwave 'top' is used to set tall things on, versus
> having the available counterspace underneath the microwave if it were
> housed underneath a cabinet.
>
> Indeed it would give a solid/unbroken piece of countertop if it were
> raised off the countertop, but the space underneath the microwave would
> be almost unusable as it would be so narrow/short. The problem being
> that I'm not willing to give up any of my cabinets/space.
>
> And most importantly, physically I cannot lift up or down anything over
> 2 lbs., which is actually not much. But I can lift them straight out.
> The raised microwave previously was a real problem for me. :-((
>
>
> The next time the microwave will be used will probably tomorrow to
> reheat the soup. I think I'm going to keep a log of how many times I do
> use it.
>
> Thanks for the suggestion; your suggestions always spur me on :-))
> Dee Dee
>
>
>

I didn't realize your weight lifting/raising restrictions. The m/w we have
on the counter is quite small but high powered (1300 watts), and I use it
the most often, several times a day. The m/w over the range is 1000 watts,
but I don't use it nearly as often. It was part of the new kitchen
install. I have to admit that it's not as convenient when putting in and
taking out things.

--
Wayne Boatwright

Date: 12(XII)/6(VI)/07(MMVII)

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2wks 2dys 4hrs 30mins
*******************************************
The best substitute for experience is
being sixteen.
*******************************************

ChattyCathy wrote:
> http://www.recfoodcooking.com/
>
> Thanks go to Terry "Prfesser" for suggesting (some) of this survey.

Sitting out ready to use, I always have the toaster oven, the
coffeemaker, the electric kettle, and the coffee grinder. The
coffeemaker/grinder get by far the most use, since we make one or
two pots a day, and there's nothing else that I use every single
day, much less multiple times a day. James is a computer programmer
-- he must have his coffee. MUST! :-)

Other frequently used small appliances in my kitchen are the stick
blender (a few times a week), the bread machine (every day or two),
and the stand mixer/grain grinder (once or twice a week, on average).

Serene

Pete C. wrote:
>
>
> Interesting, I don't really think of the microwave as a "small kitchen
> appliance", though I guess it is. I just think of it as another oven.

Agreed. But I "looked it up" - most stores list MW ovens as "small"
appliances. I think that dishwashers, fridges, freezers etc. are the
"major" appliances...

> Beyond that the stand mixer probably gets the most use.
>
> Out on the counter I have:
>
> Stand mixer
> Blender
> Toaster
> Coffee pot (perk)
> Coffee maker (espresso)
> Stick blender
>
> A drink mixer and a Foodsaver are sometimes on the counter as well. The
> microwave is on an upper shelf.

I have a built-in shelf that is supposed to be used for the MW, but mine
didn't fit in there - it was too big - so it's sitting on the counter
top. I use that shelf for other stuff tho'. Luckily I have plenty of
counter space, so it's not that big a deal.
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

Garlic: the element without which life as we know it would be impossible

"ChattyCathy" > wrote in message
...
> I have a built-in shelf that is supposed to be used for the MW, but mine
> didn't fit in there - it was too big - so it's sitting on the counter top.
> I use that shelf for other stuff tho'. Luckily I have plenty of counter
> space, so it's not that big a deal.
> --
> Cheers
> Chatty Cathy


Cathy, I've heard people say that they have 'plenty' of counter space, but
I've never heard anyone who has said they have all they need. ;-))

I think I'll count the running (linear) feet of counter tops -- just a
minute -- I should know as I had them replaced this Fall.
Ok. here it is: not doubling at the corners - I have 24 ft.

Now I'm wondering what others have. 24 is adequate for me -- but certainly
'not enough.' ;-))

Dee Dee

"Dee.Dee" wrote:
>
> "ChattyCathy" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I have a built-in shelf that is supposed to be used for the MW, but mine
> > didn't fit in there - it was too big - so it's sitting on the counter top.
> > I use that shelf for other stuff tho'. Luckily I have plenty of counter
> > space, so it's not that big a deal.
> > --
> > Cheers
> > Chatty Cathy
>
> Cathy, I've heard people say that they have 'plenty' of counter space, but
> I've never heard anyone who has said they have all they need. ;-))
>
> I think I'll count the running (linear) feet of counter tops -- just a
> minute -- I should know as I had them replaced this Fall.
> Ok. here it is: not doubling at the corners - I have 24 ft.
>
> Now I'm wondering what others have. 24 is adequate for me -- but certainly
> 'not enough.' ;-))
>
> Dee Dee

About 20' here, deducting the sink and stove of course. Generally
sufficient.

Pete C. wrote:

>>
>> I think I'll count the running (linear) feet of counter tops -- just a
>> minute -- I should know as I had them replaced this Fall.
>> Ok. here it is: not doubling at the corners - I have 24 ft.
>>
>> Now I'm wondering what others have. 24 is adequate for me -- but certainly
>> 'not enough.' ;-))
>>
>> Dee Dee
>
> About 20' here, deducting the sink and stove of course. Generally
> sufficient.

I have (linear) 27ft - *excluding* the sink and the stove - however,
that's about 51 square feet, and I could always use more LOL!

--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy - putting her tape measure back in it's drawer...

Garlic: the element without which life as we know it would be impossible

l, not -l wrote:
> On 7-Dec-2007, "Pete C." > wrote:
>
>>> Now I'm wondering what others have. 24 is adequate for me -- but
>>> certainly
>>> 'not enough.' ;-))
>>>
>>> Dee Dee
>> About 20' here, deducting the sink and stove of course. Generally
>> sufficient.
>
> 12', which is generally sufficient; but, never enough when I'm making bread.
> I have supplemented the countertops with a butcher-block topped cart which
> I use when baking. It has two shelves under it which can hold my bread
> machine, proofing boxes and baskets. The butcher-block top provides the
> needed surface to work the dough into whatever shapes (loaves, rolls, flat,
> etc) are needed for the job at hand. When not in use, it is rolled out of
> the way, into a corner of the utility/laundry room.

Why do I feel a survey might be in order here?

--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

Garlic: the element without which life as we know it would be impossible

Cshenk schrieb :
>
> "Michael Kuettner" wrote
>
>>>>>Grin, next survey suggestion? What manual items which could be electric,
>>>>>do you use most?
>>>>>
>>>>> Possible answers:
>>>>> Can Opener
>>>> Yes.
>>> Me too - Daily
>>>
>> Not daily - maybe once a week in summertime.
>> Now, in winter, it get's used twice a week.
>
> Ah yes, in Japan I did mostly fresh foods too in summer. I will do lots of
> that here too in summer but got here in late fall.
>
Fresh vegetables are available year round here.
This started about 10 - 15 years ago, AFAIR.
<snip>
>> Rice is not often used here; Knödeln, noodles and potatos are the side-dishes
>
> Knodeln? = Noodles?
>
No, Knoedeln are usually translated as dumplings.
Since I saw Koko's pictures of dumplings (Thanks for posting them, BTW, Koko),
I'm not so sure anymore.
A Knoedel has the size of a fist, roughly.
There is a wide variety of Knoedeln here ranging from the ones used as
side-dishes for roasts and stews to those made as pastry (filled with
apricots, strawberries, etc).

>>>>> Charcol grill (as opposed to propane or electric)
>>>> Hard to operate in the kitchen; but outside, yes ;-)
>>> Have built in grill out in the backyard. Used 3-4 times a month except in
>>> winter.
>>>
>> It's winter here ...
>
> Same side of the equator as you so yes <g>.
>
Have you checked in which direction the toilet drains ? ;-)

>> Potatoes are always peeled over here. It's kind of an unwritten codex ;-)
>
> Hehe ok, I leave them as the great spirit made'em.
>
I'd like to do that, too(laziness). But I can't get away with it ..

<snip>
>>> Grin, oops.
>> Well, when binding the bird for roasting, I'll just use hand-cuffs instead of
>> thread ;-)
>
> Sneaky!
>
Now I have the mental image of a roast chicken with a butt-plug<shudder>

Cheers,

Michael Kuettner

"ChattyCathy" > wrote in message
...
> Pete C. wrote:
>
>>>
>>> I think I'll count the running (linear) feet of counter tops -- just a
>>> minute -- I should know as I had them replaced this Fall.
>>> Ok. here it is: not doubling at the corners - I have 24 ft.
>>>
>>> Now I'm wondering what others have. 24 is adequate for me -- but
>>> certainly
>>> 'not enough.' ;-))
>>>
>>> Dee Dee
>>
>> About 20' here, deducting the sink and stove of course. Generally
>> sufficient.
>
> I have (linear) 27ft - *excluding* the sink and the stove - however,
> that's about 51 square feet, and I could always use more LOL!
>

That's great! I saw one of those kitchen shows where a cluttered cook had
about 3' of space and they were trying to fix her problem - It was too
discouraging to watch the outcome.

-- I forgot when answering the survey, that 'now' I have a laptop on my
counter top which is what? another appliance? :-))
I just measured the space I use for it, and it's 3', so basically I have 21'
countertop for prep.

But I do use the 4'3" of ss table all the time that I keep in the kitchen
that I move up to the counters, sink, refr or stove -- wherever I need it.
It is really used.

OB Food - just put in the oven a Mango Betty
http://coconutlime.blogspot.com/2006...own-betty.html

But instead of potato bread, I used 5 slices of sour-cherry/walnut/cinnamon
bread.
Haven't had breakfast yet, 12:06pm., so I'm looking forward to something.

Dee Dee

"ChattyCathy" > wrote in message
...
> l, not -l wrote:
>> On 7-Dec-2007, "Pete C." > wrote:
>>
>>>> Now I'm wondering what others have. 24 is adequate for me -- but
>>>> certainly
>>>> 'not enough.' ;-))
>>>>
>>>> Dee Dee
>>> About 20' here, deducting the sink and stove of course. Generally
>>> sufficient.
>>
>> 12', which is generally sufficient; but, never enough when I'm making
>> bread.
>> I have supplemented the countertops with a butcher-block topped cart
>> which
>> I use when baking. It has two shelves under it which can hold my bread
>> machine, proofing boxes and baskets. The butcher-block top provides the
>> needed surface to work the dough into whatever shapes (loaves, rolls,
>> flat,
>> etc) are needed for the job at hand. When not in use, it is rolled out
>> of
>> the way, into a corner of the utility/laundry room.
>
> Why do I feel a survey might be in order here?
>
> --
> Cheers
> Chatty Cathy


I was hoping for one ;-)) But I really don't have a clue as to how it could
be worded.
Dee Dee

Michael Kuettner wrote:
> No, Knoedeln are usually translated as dumplings.
> Since I saw Koko's pictures of dumplings (Thanks for posting them,
> BTW, Koko), I'm not so sure anymore.
> A Knoedel has the size of a fist, roughly.
> There is a wide variety of Knoedeln here ranging from the ones used as
> side-dishes for roasts and stews to those made as pastry (filled with
> apricots, strawberries, etc).

Perhaps you could share some recipes please Michael?