Sorry Wayne lost the thread when the browser had a brain-freeze.

The 'Guardian' site needs an RSS feed to work properly.

Try these sites:

http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news...os+Hi-Res.html

http://robot.watch.impress.co.jp/cda...07/23/570.html (site is
in Japanese but pics are OK)

www.toyota.co.jp/en/news/04/0311.html

Yes computers cannot cook, but maybe they can. The chips in those robots
and the sushi machine could easily be considered computers I suppose.

Anyway who said I could cook LOL!

One time on Usenet, Arri London > said:

> Sorry Wayne lost the thread when the browser had a brain-freeze.
>
> The 'Guardian' site needs an RSS feed to work properly.
>
> Try these sites:

<snip>

I forwarded some of these links to Buddy -- he wants to be a robot
scientist when he grows up. He's on the right track, he loves
computers...

--
Jani in WA

Oh pshaw, on Thu 06 Dec 2007 07:06:28p, Arri London meant to say...

> Sorry Wayne lost the thread when the browser had a brain-freeze.
>
> The 'Guardian' site needs an RSS feed to work properly.
>
> Try these sites:
>
> http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news...the+robots+of+
> the+future!+Video+and+Photos+Hi-Res.html
>
> http://robot.watch.impress.co.jp/cda...07/23/570.html (site is
> in Japanese but pics are OK)
>
> www.toyota.co.jp/en/news/04/0311.html
>
> Yes computers cannot cook, but maybe they can. The chips in those robots
> and the sushi machine could easily be considered computers I suppose.
>
> Anyway who said I could cook LOL!
>

Thanks, Ari, that's fascinating! FWIW, there were mechanically operated
instruments that used punched rolls or cards that were capable of amazing
musical feats in the 19th and early 20th centuries. No electronic logic
involved of course, but still amazing it it's day.

BTW, *I* think you can cook. :-)

--
Wayne Boatwright

Date: Thu, 12(XII)/6(VI)/07(MMVII)

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One time on Usenet, Wayne Boatwright > said:
> Oh pshaw, on Thu 06 Dec 2007 07:06:28p, Arri London meant to say...
>
> > Sorry Wayne lost the thread when the browser had a brain-freeze.
> >
> > The 'Guardian' site needs an RSS feed to work properly.
> >
> > Try these sites:
> >
> > http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news...the+robots+of+
> > the+future!+Video+and+Photos+Hi-Res.html
> >
> > http://robot.watch.impress.co.jp/cda...07/23/570.html (site is
> > in Japanese but pics are OK)
> >
> > www.toyota.co.jp/en/news/04/0311.html
> >
> > Yes computers cannot cook, but maybe they can. The chips in those robots
> > and the sushi machine could easily be considered computers I suppose.
> >
> > Anyway who said I could cook LOL!
> >
>
> Thanks, Ari, that's fascinating! FWIW, there were mechanically operated
> instruments that used punched rolls or cards that were capable of amazing
> musical feats in the 19th and early 20th centuries. No electronic logic
> involved of course, but still amazing it it's day.

As a kid (late 60's) I knew an elderly lady in the neighborhood who
had a player piano that used punched rolls. I always found it utterly
fascinating.

> BTW, *I* think you can cook. :-)

I hope so, I've been taking his advice for years... ;-)

--
Jani in WA

Oh pshaw, on Thu 06 Dec 2007 08:07:17p, Little Malice meant to say...

> One time on Usenet, Wayne Boatwright > said:
>> Oh pshaw, on Thu 06 Dec 2007 07:06:28p, Arri London meant to say...
>>
>> > Sorry Wayne lost the thread when the browser had a brain-freeze.
>> >
>> > The 'Guardian' site needs an RSS feed to work properly.
>> >
>> > Try these sites:
>> >
>> > http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news...ts+the+robots+
>> > of+ the+future!+Video+and+Photos+Hi-Res.html
>> >
>> > http://robot.watch.impress.co.jp/cda...07/23/570.html (site
>> > is in Japanese but pics are OK)
>> >
>> > www.toyota.co.jp/en/news/04/0311.html
>> >
>> > Yes computers cannot cook, but maybe they can. The chips in those
>> > robots and the sushi machine could easily be considered computers I
>> > suppose.
>> >
>> > Anyway who said I could cook LOL!
>> >
>>
>> Thanks, Ari, that's fascinating! FWIW, there were mechanically
>> operated instruments that used punched rolls or cards that were capable
>> of amazing musical feats in the 19th and early 20th centuries. No
>> electronic logic involved of course, but still amazing it it's day.
>
> As a kid (late 60's) I knew an elderly lady in the neighborhood who
> had a player piano that used punched rolls. I always found it utterly
> fascinating.
>
>> BTW, *I* think you can cook. :-)
>
> I hope so, I've been taking his advice for years... ;-)
>

When I was in 9th grade, a church near us was replacing all of its old
pianos and they were free to anyone who could haul them away. I went with
a friend to look a them and discovered that one of them was a player piano
that had not been gutted. My dad had a friend who hauled it to our house
in his truck. It needed extensive restoration inside, so I took it on as a
summer project.

It turned out to be not only a player piano, but a "reproducing piano",
which was more complicated and filled with more features. I won't go into
detail here, but if you're interested, you can read about them at this
site: http://www.pianola.com/rpiano.htm.

Anyway, I spent all summer restoring the tubing, recanvassing the pneumatic
valves, etc., and had one hell of a good time working on it and playing
with it and on it. Later sold it for several thousand dollars, as
reproducing pianos were far more valuable than regular player pianos. Now
I wish I had kept it. :-(

--
Wayne Boatwright

Date: Thursday, December 6th,2007

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On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 04:58:33 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

> Later sold it for several thousand dollars, as
>reproducing pianos were far more valuable than regular player pianos. Now
>I wish I had kept it. :-(

I'm sure most of us have things we wished we kept. Sorry about the
piano.

Lou

Oh pshaw, on Thu 06 Dec 2007 10:15:27p, Lou Decruss meant to say...

> On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 04:58:33 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
>> Later sold it for several thousand dollars, as
>>reproducing pianos were far more valuable than regular player pianos.
Now
>>I wish I had kept it. :-(
>
> I'm sure most of us have things we wished we kept. Sorry about the
> piano.
>
> Lou
>
>

Thanks, Lou. I had a bad habit of doing things like that when I was
younger. It's too bad that wisdom comes so much later. :-)

--
Wayne Boatwright

Date: Thursday, December 6th,2007

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"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message >
> Anyway, I spent all summer restoring the tubing, recanvassing the
> pneumatic
> valves, etc., and had one hell of a good time working on it and playing
> with it and on it. Later sold it for several thousand dollars, as
> reproducing pianos were far more valuable than regular player pianos. Now
> I wish I had kept it. :-(
>
> --
> Wayne Boatwright


There was a player piano in our household until at least the 60's until the
folks moved. My paternal great-grandfather & family were musical; the
Victorola and player-piano were probably from my great-grandfather in the
decade of 1900 up until 1910.

It worked well in the early 50's as I recall. Someone got a bargain at an
auction. I can hardly believe that the roller paper was still in decent
shape enough to play. They certainly weren't kept in any special way.

Yes, they are a delight to see. I use to see them in old tourist
restaurant-type saloons.

Dee Dee

> When I was in 9th grade, a church near us was replacing all of its old
> pianos and they were free to anyone who could haul them away. I went with
> a friend to look a them and discovered that one of them was a player piano
> that had not been gutted. My dad had a friend who hauled it to our house
> in his truck. It needed extensive restoration inside, so I took it on as
> a
> summer project.
>
> It turned out to be not only a player piano, but a "reproducing piano",
> which was more complicated and filled with more features. I won't go into
> detail here, but if you're interested, you can read about them at this
> site: http://www.pianola.com/rpiano.htm.
>
> Anyway, I spent all summer restoring the tubing, recanvassing the
> pneumatic
> valves, etc., and had one hell of a good time working on it and playing
> with it and on it. Later sold it for several thousand dollars, as
> reproducing pianos were far more valuable than regular player pianos. Now
> I wish I had kept it. :-(
> --
> Wayne Boatwright

Very cool, Wayne. Wasn't aware that such a thing existed.

Years ago I dated a woman who owned an instrument she had inherited from her
grandmother that looked like a old Victrolla, but played punched brass
platters that were ~15" in diameter. They sounded pretty nice though a bit
monochromatic.

Jon

One time on Usenet, Lou Decruss > said:
> On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 04:58:33 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
> > Later sold it for several thousand dollars, as
> >reproducing pianos were far more valuable than regular player pianos.

Thanks for the info on pianos, Wayne. :-)

> >Now I wish I had kept it. :-(

> I'm sure most of us have things we wished we kept. Sorry about the
> piano.

Oh yeah! When I first discovered eBay back in the 90's, I sold several
things that I wish I hadn't...

--
Jani in WA

Oh pshaw, on Fri 07 Dec 2007 07:36:25a, Dee.Dee meant to say...

>
> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message >
>> Anyway, I spent all summer restoring the tubing, recanvassing the
>> pneumatic valves, etc., and had one hell of a good time working on it
>> and playing with it and on it. Later sold it for several thousand
>> dollars, as reproducing pianos were far more valuable than regular
>> player pianos. Now I wish I had kept it. :-(
>>
>> --
>> Wayne Boatwright
>
>
> There was a player piano in our household until at least the 60's until
> the folks moved. My paternal great-grandfather & family were musical;
> the Victorola and player-piano were probably from my great-grandfather
> in the decade of 1900 up until 1910.
>
> It worked well in the early 50's as I recall. Someone got a bargain at
> an auction. I can hardly believe that the roller paper was still in
> decent shape enough to play. They certainly weren't kept in any special
> way.
>
> Yes, they are a delight to see. I use to see them in old tourist
> restaurant-type saloons.
>
> Dee Dee
>
>
>
>

Indeed, they are a delight!

--
Wayne Boatwright

Date: Friday, December 7th,2007

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Oh pshaw, on Fri 07 Dec 2007 11:53:02a, Zeppo meant to say...

>> When I was in 9th grade, a church near us was replacing all of its old
>> pianos and they were free to anyone who could haul them away. I went
>> with a friend to look a them and discovered that one of them was a
>> player piano that had not been gutted. My dad had a friend who hauled
>> it to our house in his truck. It needed extensive restoration inside,
>> so I took it on as a summer project.
>>
>> It turned out to be not only a player piano, but a "reproducing piano",
>> which was more complicated and filled with more features. I won't go
>> into detail here, but if you're interested, you can read about them at
>> this site: http://www.pianola.com/rpiano.htm.
>>
>> Anyway, I spent all summer restoring the tubing, recanvassing the
>> pneumatic valves, etc., and had one hell of a good time working on it
>> and playing with it and on it. Later sold it for several thousand
>> dollars, as reproducing pianos were far more valuable than regular
>> player pianos. Now I wish I had kept it. :-( --
>> Wayne Boatwright
>
> Very cool, Wayne. Wasn't aware that such a thing existed.
>
> Years ago I dated a woman who owned an instrument she had inherited from
> her grandmother that looked like a old Victrolla, but played punched
> brass platters that were ~15" in diameter. They sounded pretty nice
> though a bit monochromatic.
>
> Jon
>
>
>

They were very popular at turn of the century and somewhat beyond. I can't
remember the exact name for it, but essentially they were music boxes. The
holes in the disk tripped little levers that virbrated a metal reed. At
least most of them worked that way. My babysitter and her sisters, who
were all in their 80s in 1949-1950 had one in their parlor.


--
Wayne Boatwright

Date: Friday, December 7th,2007

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Oh pshaw, on Fri 07 Dec 2007 12:56:19p, Little Malice meant to say...

> One time on Usenet, Lou Decruss > said:
>> On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 04:58:33 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>> > wrote:
>>
>> > Later sold it for several thousand dollars, as reproducing pianos
>> > were far more valuable than regular player pianos.
>
> Thanks for the info on pianos, Wayne. :-)
>
>> >Now I wish I had kept it. :-(
>
>> I'm sure most of us have things we wished we kept. Sorry about the
>> piano.
>
> Oh yeah! When I first discovered eBay back in the 90's, I sold several
> things that I wish I hadn't...
>

Been there and done that, too. Most recently, 12 place settings of
Wedgewood Queensware and many accessory and serving pieces, about 250 in
all. I have regrets, but I got a great price. I didn't sell it through
eBay, however. I found a china buyer who would pay top dollar. for mint
condition pieces.

--
Wayne Boatwright

Date: Friday, December 7th,2007

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"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
>
> They were very popular at turn of the century and somewhat beyond.

> Wayne Boatwright




Hmmm -- Wayne, what upcoming year should we get out of the habit of saying
'at the turn of the century.' ;-)))

Dee Dee

Oh pshaw, on Fri 07 Dec 2007 07:38:16p, Dee.Dee meant to say...

>
> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
>>
>> They were very popular at turn of the century and somewhat beyond.
>
>> Wayne Boatwright
>
>
>
>
> Hmmm -- Wayne, what upcoming year should we get out of the habit of
saying
> 'at the turn of the century.' ;-)))
>
> Dee Dee
>
>
>
>

That'a a very good questions. I suppose we should be specifying which one.
:-)

--
Wayne Boatwright

Date: Fri, 12(XII)/7(VII)/07(MMVII)

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One time on Usenet, Wayne Boatwright > said:
> Oh pshaw, on Fri 07 Dec 2007 12:56:19p, Little Malice meant to say...
>
> > One time on Usenet, Lou Decruss > said:
> >> On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 04:58:33 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> > Later sold it for several thousand dollars, as reproducing pianos
> >> > were far more valuable than regular player pianos.
> >
> > Thanks for the info on pianos, Wayne. :-)
> >
> >> >Now I wish I had kept it. :-(
> >
> >> I'm sure most of us have things we wished we kept. Sorry about the
> >> piano.
> >
> > Oh yeah! When I first discovered eBay back in the 90's, I sold several
> > things that I wish I hadn't...
> >
>
> Been there and done that, too. Most recently, 12 place settings of
> Wedgewood Queensware and many accessory and serving pieces, about 250 in
> all. I have regrets, but I got a great price. I didn't sell it through
> eBay, however. I found a china buyer who would pay top dollar. for mint
> condition pieces.

Yeah, I wouldn't sell something like that on eBay, myself. I have 16
settings of a lovely china my dad picked up in Japan during the 50's.
I'm NOT getting rid of that any time soon... :-)

--
Jani in WA

Oh pshaw, on Fri 07 Dec 2007 07:53:06p, Little Malice meant to say...

> One time on Usenet, Wayne Boatwright > said:
>> Oh pshaw, on Fri 07 Dec 2007 12:56:19p, Little Malice meant to say...
>>
>> > One time on Usenet, Lou Decruss > said:
>> >> On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 04:58:33 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Later sold it for several thousand dollars, as reproducing pianos
>> >> > were far more valuable than regular player pianos.
>> >
>> > Thanks for the info on pianos, Wayne. :-)
>> >
>> >> >Now I wish I had kept it. :-(
>> >
>> >> I'm sure most of us have things we wished we kept. Sorry about the
>> >> piano.
>> >
>> > Oh yeah! When I first discovered eBay back in the 90's, I sold several
>> > things that I wish I hadn't...
>> >
>>
>> Been there and done that, too. Most recently, 12 place settings of
>> Wedgewood Queensware and many accessory and serving pieces, about 250 in
>> all. I have regrets, but I got a great price. I didn't sell it through
>> eBay, however. I found a china buyer who would pay top dollar. for mint
>> condition pieces.
>
> Yeah, I wouldn't sell something like that on eBay, myself. I have 16
> settings of a lovely china my dad picked up in Japan during the 50's.
> I'm NOT getting rid of that any time soon... :-)
>

That's to cherish. I have one more set that I plan to sell, 8 place
settings and serving pieces of Chinese export ware.

The one set I'm keeping is a 12 place settings and many serving pieces that
was my mothers English bone china.

No one needs as much china as I had! :-) (Especially since we rarely
entertain.)

--
Wayne Boatwright

Date: Friday, December 7th,2007

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Late last night and the night before
Tommyknockers, Tommyknockers, knocking
on my door.

On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 03:21:19 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>No one needs as much china as I had! :-) (Especially since we rarely
>entertain.)
ah... there's another level where we connect. I absolutely love china
and crystal. I'd have a separate set for every time of day, every
season, every mood.... if I had the room to store them. LOL

--
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Oh pshaw, on Fri 07 Dec 2007 11:19:50p, meant to say...

> On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 03:21:19 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
>>No one needs as much china as I had! :-) (Especially since we rarely
>>entertain.)
> ah... there's another level where we connect. I absolutely love china
> and crystal. I'd have a separate set for every time of day, every
> season, every mood.... if I had the room to store them. LOL
>

Oh, I understand, and space (or the lack thereof) is my main problem. I
have also sold two full sets of crystal within the last year, retaining
only that which I inherited from my grandmother.

Like you, if I had the room, I could go on collecting it endlessly.

--
Wayne Boatwright

Date: Fri, 12(XII)/7(VII)/2007(MMVII)

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On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 19:56:19 GMT, (Little
Malice) wrote:

>One time on Usenet, Lou Decruss > said:
>> On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 04:58:33 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>> > wrote:
>>
>> > Later sold it for several thousand dollars, as
>> >reproducing pianos were far more valuable than regular player pianos.
>
>Thanks for the info on pianos, Wayne. :-)
>
>> >Now I wish I had kept it. :-(
>
>> I'm sure most of us have things we wished we kept. Sorry about the
>> piano.
>
>Oh yeah! When I first discovered eBay back in the 90's, I sold several
>things that I wish I hadn't...

I got rid of all my vinyl LP's in the mid 80's after I started
collecting CD's. The actual record isn't worth much but the jackets
are. Louise still has hers. Well over 500. Every once in awhile
we'll listen to a few. Last summer we ran across a box sale. 5 bucks
for anything you could get in a 24 pack beer bottle box. And they
didn't care how high you stacked the box. They had 1000's of LP's.
We got quite a haul just in LP's. I got a big stack of cookbooks and
some cooking stuff. A nice cleaver and an interesting meat saw.
We've sold a lot of what we got on eBay and already covered what we
spent, so basically what we got was free. Actually one Christmas
ornament paid for the trip. People buy some weird stuff.

Lou

On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 02:53:06 GMT, (Little
Malice) wrote:

>One time on Usenet, Wayne Boatwright > said:
>> Oh pshaw, on Fri 07 Dec 2007 12:56:19p, Little Malice meant to say...
>>
>> > One time on Usenet, Lou Decruss > said:
>> >> On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 04:58:33 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Later sold it for several thousand dollars, as reproducing pianos
>> >> > were far more valuable than regular player pianos.
>> >
>> > Thanks for the info on pianos, Wayne. :-)
>> >
>> >> >Now I wish I had kept it. :-(
>> >
>> >> I'm sure most of us have things we wished we kept. Sorry about the
>> >> piano.
>> >
>> > Oh yeah! When I first discovered eBay back in the 90's, I sold several
>> > things that I wish I hadn't...
>> >
>>
>> Been there and done that, too. Most recently, 12 place settings of
>> Wedgewood Queensware and many accessory and serving pieces, about 250 in
>> all. I have regrets, but I got a great price. I didn't sell it through
>> eBay, however. I found a china buyer who would pay top dollar. for mint
>> condition pieces.
>
>Yeah, I wouldn't sell something like that on eBay, myself.

Shipping china is a nightmare. We tried it once and about half of it
got broke.

Lou

On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 03:21:19 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>No one needs as much china as I had! :-) (Especially since we rarely
>entertain.)

Our china in boxed up and in the basement. <g>

Lou

"Lou Decruss" > wrote in message
news
> On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 03:21:19 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
>>No one needs as much china as I had! :-) (Especially since we rarely
>>entertain.)
>
> Our china in boxed up and in the basement. <g>
>
> Lou


Watch out! One day there might be a flood, the boxes will get wet, then dry
out, then you'll pick them up - then BAM! they're smashed!

Dee Dee

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
> Oh pshaw, on Thu 06 Dec 2007 07:06:28p, Arri London meant to say...
>
> > Sorry Wayne lost the thread when the browser had a brain-freeze.
> >
> > The 'Guardian' site needs an RSS feed to work properly.
> >
> > Try these sites:
> >
> > http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news...the+robots+of+
> > the+future!+Video+and+Photos+Hi-Res.html
> >
> > http://robot.watch.impress.co.jp/cda...07/23/570.html (site is
> > in Japanese but pics are OK)
> >
> > www.toyota.co.jp/en/news/04/0311.html
> >
> > Yes computers cannot cook, but maybe they can. The chips in those robots
> > and the sushi machine could easily be considered computers I suppose.
> >
> > Anyway who said I could cook LOL!
> >
>
> Thanks, Ari, that's fascinating! FWIW, there were mechanically operated
> instruments that used punched rolls or cards that were capable of amazing
> musical feats in the 19th and early 20th centuries. No electronic logic
> involved of course, but still amazing it it's day.

Yes...the computer age could be said to have started with Jacquard, who
invented punch cards for weaving in the Industrial Revolution.
>
> BTW, *I* think you can cook. :-)

Ah ty! Nicely said, without ever having eaten anything I've made LOL!
>
> --
> Wayne Boatwright
>

Little Malice wrote:
>
> One time on Usenet, Wayne Boatwright > said:
> > Oh pshaw, on Thu 06 Dec 2007 07:06:28p, Arri London meant to say...
> >
> > > Sorry Wayne lost the thread when the browser had a brain-freeze.
> > >
> > > The 'Guardian' site needs an RSS feed to work properly.
> > >
> > > Try these sites:
> > >
> > > http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news...the+robots+of+
> > > the+future!+Video+and+Photos+Hi-Res.html
> > >
> > > http://robot.watch.impress.co.jp/cda...07/23/570.html (site is
> > > in Japanese but pics are OK)
> > >
> > > www.toyota.co.jp/en/news/04/0311.html
> > >
> > > Yes computers cannot cook, but maybe they can. The chips in those robots
> > > and the sushi machine could easily be considered computers I suppose.
> > >
> > > Anyway who said I could cook LOL!
> > >
> >
> > Thanks, Ari, that's fascinating! FWIW, there were mechanically operated
> > instruments that used punched rolls or cards that were capable of amazing
> > musical feats in the 19th and early 20th centuries. No electronic logic
> > involved of course, but still amazing it it's day.
>
> As a kid (late 60's) I knew an elderly lady in the neighborhood who
> had a player piano that used punched rolls. I always found it utterly
> fascinating.
>
> > BTW, *I* think you can cook. :-)
>
> I hope so, I've been taking his advice for years... ;-)
>
> --
> Jani in WA

LOL mine or Wayne's or both???

One time on Usenet, Arri London > said:
>
>
> Little Malice wrote:
> >
> > One time on Usenet, Wayne Boatwright > said:
> > > Oh pshaw, on Thu 06 Dec 2007 07:06:28p, Arri London meant to say...
> > >
> > > > Sorry Wayne lost the thread when the browser had a brain-freeze.
> > > >
> > > > The 'Guardian' site needs an RSS feed to work properly.
> > > >
> > > > Try these sites:
> > > >
> > > >
> http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news...the+robots+of+
> > > > the+future!+Video+and+Photos+Hi-Res.html
> > > >
> > > > http://robot.watch.impress.co.jp/cda...07/23/570.html (site is
> > > > in Japanese but pics are OK)
> > > >
> > > > www.toyota.co.jp/en/news/04/0311.html
> > > >
> > > > Yes computers cannot cook, but maybe they can. The chips in those robots
> > > > and the sushi machine could easily be considered computers I suppose.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway who said I could cook LOL!
> > > >
> > >
> > > Thanks, Ari, that's fascinating! FWIW, there were mechanically operated
> > > instruments that used punched rolls or cards that were capable of amazing
> > > musical feats in the 19th and early 20th centuries. No electronic logic
> > > involved of course, but still amazing it it's day.
> >
> > As a kid (late 60's) I knew an elderly lady in the neighborhood who
> > had a player piano that used punched rolls. I always found it utterly
> > fascinating.
> >
> > > BTW, *I* think you can cook. :-)
> >
> > I hope so, I've been taking his advice for years... ;-)

> LOL mine or Wayne's or both???

I was actually referring to you, but I take Wayne's advice too... :-)

--
Jani in WA

On Sat, 8 Dec 2007 13:00:11 -0500, "Dee.Dee" >
wrote:

>
>"Lou Decruss" > wrote in message
>news
>> On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 03:21:19 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>No one needs as much china as I had! :-) (Especially since we rarely
>>>entertain.)
>>
>> Our china in boxed up and in the basement. <g>
>>
>> Lou
>
>
>Watch out! One day there might be a flood, the boxes will get wet, then dry
>out, then you'll pick them up - then BAM! they're smashed!

They're on shelves. No leaks down there. Wouldn't bother me if they
break. <eg> I'd just say: "See! I told you we should have sold
them"

Lou

"Lou Decruss" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 8 Dec 2007 13:00:11 -0500, "Dee.Dee" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Lou Decruss" > wrote in message
>>news
>>> On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 03:21:19 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>No one needs as much china as I had! :-) (Especially since we rarely
>>>>entertain.)
>>>
>>> Our china in boxed up and in the basement. <g>
>>>
>>> Lou
>>
>>
>>Watch out! One day there might be a flood, the boxes will get wet, then
>>dry
>>out, then you'll pick them up - then BAM! they're smashed!
>
> They're on shelves. No leaks down there. Wouldn't bother me if they
> break. <eg> I'd just say: "See! I told you we should have sold
> them"
>
> Lou

Who would you say that to? Dear Wife? Could it be anything like this
scenario at our house?

Dee: I would love to get rid of that.
DH: Well, I'll put it on Ebay.
Dee: You've been saying that. When are you going to do it?
Silence.


Months, if not years later:

DH: Why are you putting these in the trash?
Dee: They've been hanging around here too long.
DH: I thought they were going to go onto Ebay.
Dee: You've been saying that. When are you going to do it?
Silence.


Dee Dee

Oh pshaw, on Sat 08 Dec 2007 11:38:46a, Arri London meant to say...

>
>
> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>
>> Oh pshaw, on Thu 06 Dec 2007 07:06:28p, Arri London meant to say...
>>
>> > Sorry Wayne lost the thread when the browser had a brain-freeze.
>> >
>> > The 'Guardian' site needs an RSS feed to work properly.
>> >
>> > Try these sites:
>> >
>> > http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news...ts+the+robots+
>> > of+ the+future!+Video+and+Photos+Hi-Res.html
>> >
>> > http://robot.watch.impress.co.jp/cda...07/23/570.html (site
>> > is in Japanese but pics are OK)
>> >
>> > www.toyota.co.jp/en/news/04/0311.html
>> >
>> > Yes computers cannot cook, but maybe they can. The chips in those
>> > robots and the sushi machine could easily be considered computers I
>> > suppose.
>> >
>> > Anyway who said I could cook LOL!
>> >
>>
>> Thanks, Ari, that's fascinating! FWIW, there were mechanically
>> operated instruments that used punched rolls or cards that were capable
>> of amazing musical feats in the 19th and early 20th centuries. No
>> electronic logic involved of course, but still amazing it it's day.
>
> Yes...the computer age could be said to have started with Jacquard, who
> invented punch cards for weaving in the Industrial Revolution.

Yes, I remember studying that in detail in design school.

>> BTW, *I* think you can cook. :-)
>
> Ah ty! Nicely said, without ever having eaten anything I've made LOL!

You're welcome. I can "taste" between the lines. :-)

--
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Date: Sat, 12/8/07

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Oh pshaw, on Sat 08 Dec 2007 01:12:25p, Little Malice meant to say...

> One time on Usenet, Arri London > said:
>>
>>
>> Little Malice wrote:
>> >
>> > One time on Usenet, Wayne Boatwright > said:
>> > > Oh pshaw, on Thu 06 Dec 2007 07:06:28p, Arri London meant to say...
>> > >
>> > > > Sorry Wayne lost the thread when the browser had a brain-freeze.
>> > > >
>> > > > The 'Guardian' site needs an RSS feed to work properly.
>> > > >
>> > > > Try these sites:
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news...s+the+robots+o
>> f+
>> > > > the+future!+Video+and+Photos+Hi-Res.html
>> > > >
>> > > > http://robot.watch.impress.co.jp/cda...07/23/570.html
>> > > > (site is in Japanese but pics are OK)
>> > > >
>> > > > www.toyota.co.jp/en/news/04/0311.html
>> > > >
>> > > > Yes computers cannot cook, but maybe they can. The chips in those
>> > > > robots and the sushi machine could easily be considered computers
>> > > > I suppose.
>> > > >
>> > > > Anyway who said I could cook LOL!
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > Thanks, Ari, that's fascinating! FWIW, there were mechanically
>> > > operated instruments that used punched rolls or cards that were
>> > > capable of amazing musical feats in the 19th and early 20th
>> > > centuries. No electronic logic involved of course, but still
>> > > amazing it it's day.
>> >
>> > As a kid (late 60's) I knew an elderly lady in the neighborhood who
>> > had a player piano that used punched rolls. I always found it utterly
>> > fascinating.
>> >
>> > > BTW, *I* think you can cook. :-)
>> >
>> > I hope so, I've been taking his advice for years... ;-)
>
>> LOL mine or Wayne's or both???
>
> I was actually referring to you, but I take Wayne's advice too... :-)
>

Thanks, Jani!

--
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Date: Sat, 12/8/07

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On Sat, 8 Dec 2007 19:23:44 -0500, "Dee.Dee" >
wrote:

>
>"Lou Decruss" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sat, 8 Dec 2007 13:00:11 -0500, "Dee.Dee" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Lou Decruss" > wrote in message
>>>news >>>> On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 03:21:19 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>No one needs as much china as I had! :-) (Especially since we rarely
>>>>>entertain.)
>>>>
>>>> Our china in boxed up and in the basement. <g>
>>>>
>>>> Lou
>>>
>>>
>>>Watch out! One day there might be a flood, the boxes will get wet, then
>>>dry
>>>out, then you'll pick them up - then BAM! they're smashed!
>>
>> They're on shelves. No leaks down there. Wouldn't bother me if they
>> break. <eg> I'd just say: "See! I told you we should have sold
>> them"
>>
>> Lou
>
>Who would you say that to? Dear Wife? Could it be anything like this
>scenario at our house?
>
>Dee: I would love to get rid of that.
>DH: Well, I'll put it on Ebay.
>Dee: You've been saying that. When are you going to do it?
>Silence.
>
>
>Months, if not years later:
>
>DH: Why are you putting these in the trash?
>Dee: They've been hanging around here too long.
>DH: I thought they were going to go onto Ebay.
>Dee: You've been saying that. When are you going to do it?
>Silence.
>
>
>Dee Dee
>

so put 'em on ebay yourself, dee dee. be a man! er, woman.

your pal,
blake

"blake murphy" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>Who would you say that to? Dear Wife? Could it be anything like this
>>scenario at our house?
>>
>>Dee: I would love to get rid of that.
>>DH: Well, I'll put it on Ebay.
>>Dee: You've been saying that. When are you going to do it?
>>Silence.
>>
>>
>>Months, if not years later:
>>
>>DH: Why are you putting these in the trash?
>>Dee: They've been hanging around here too long.
>>DH: I thought they were going to go onto Ebay.
>>Dee: You've been saying that. When are you going to do it?
>>Silence.
>>
>>
>>Dee Dee
>>
>
> so put 'em on ebay yourself, dee dee. be a man! er, woman.
>
> your pal,
> blake


I've always been a woman, But keeping that designation intact by putting
something on ebay is not something that proves it. If you think it does,
get another brain.

Besides putting things on ebay is not my style. Buying something on ebay is
no damned party either. I just bought something on ebay and am waiting for
its arrival. Chasing it down, writing emails, getting packages ripped apart
in the mail because of bad packaging, being overcharged for an item, writing
ebay/penpal, getting money back is not something I want to deal with. I'd
rather be poor than chase after money.

If DH choses to do it and keep up with the paper chase, mailing, collecting
the money, that's his business. But obviously he just likes to talk about
it. There is nothing to indicate in that scenario that it is something I
want to do.

Next quip: My, your defensive! LOL.
No, I've just not had enough coffee yet. Woke at 10am and having a latte.
Dee Dee

Little Malice wrote:
>
> One time on Usenet, Arri London > said:
> >
> >
> > Little Malice wrote:
> > >
> > > One time on Usenet, Wayne Boatwright > said:
> > > > Oh pshaw, on Thu 06 Dec 2007 07:06:28p, Arri London meant to say...
> > > >
> > > > > Sorry Wayne lost the thread when the browser had a brain-freeze.
> > > > >
> > > > > The 'Guardian' site needs an RSS feed to work properly.
> > > > >
> > > > > Try these sites:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news...the+robots+of+
> > > > > the+future!+Video+and+Photos+Hi-Res.html
> > > > >
> > > > > http://robot.watch.impress.co.jp/cda...07/23/570.html (site is
> > > > > in Japanese but pics are OK)
> > > > >
> > > > > www.toyota.co.jp/en/news/04/0311.html
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes computers cannot cook, but maybe they can. The chips in those robots
> > > > > and the sushi machine could easily be considered computers I suppose.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyway who said I could cook LOL!
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks, Ari, that's fascinating! FWIW, there were mechanically operated
> > > > instruments that used punched rolls or cards that were capable of amazing
> > > > musical feats in the 19th and early 20th centuries. No electronic logic
> > > > involved of course, but still amazing it it's day.
> > >
> > > As a kid (late 60's) I knew an elderly lady in the neighborhood who
> > > had a player piano that used punched rolls. I always found it utterly
> > > fascinating.
> > >
> > > > BTW, *I* think you can cook. :-)
> > >
> > > I hope so, I've been taking his advice for years... ;-)
>
> > LOL mine or Wayne's or both???
>
> I was actually referring to you, but I take Wayne's advice too... :-)
>
> --
> Jani in WA

TYVM then. Wayne seems to be a good cook too!

On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 11:04:11 -0500, "Dee.Dee" >
wrote:

>If DH choses to do it and keep up with the paper chase, mailing, collecting
>the money, that's his business. But obviously he just likes to talk about
>it. There is nothing to indicate in that scenario that it is something I
>want to do.

I suggest using Craig's List, if you have a local one. Make pick up
part of the deal. No mailing involved. It's a good place to just
*give* things way too. No mailing or money exchange and you can off
it easily.

Remember how fast it goes is all in the marketing and photography
(you're good with a camera, so that's no problem for you). Son sold
some fabric I'd had in the basement forever by calling it "vintage"...
and got rid of it in a matter of hours. I guess he used the term
because some of those pieces were at least 20 years old. A quilter
bought the fabric, so it went to a decent home and ended up the way it
was intended. LOL

--
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Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
> Oh pshaw, on Sat 08 Dec 2007 11:38:46a, Arri London meant to say...
>
> >
> >
> > Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> >>
> >> Oh pshaw, on Thu 06 Dec 2007 07:06:28p, Arri London meant to say...
> >>
> >> > Sorry Wayne lost the thread when the browser had a brain-freeze.
> >> >
> >> > The 'Guardian' site needs an RSS feed to work properly.
> >> >
> >> > Try these sites:
> >> >
> >> > http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news...ts+the+robots+
> >> > of+ the+future!+Video+and+Photos+Hi-Res.html
> >> >
> >> > http://robot.watch.impress.co.jp/cda...07/23/570.html (site
> >> > is in Japanese but pics are OK)
> >> >
> >> > www.toyota.co.jp/en/news/04/0311.html
> >> >
> >> > Yes computers cannot cook, but maybe they can. The chips in those
> >> > robots and the sushi machine could easily be considered computers I
> >> > suppose.
> >> >
> >> > Anyway who said I could cook LOL!
> >> >
> >>
> >> Thanks, Ari, that's fascinating! FWIW, there were mechanically
> >> operated instruments that used punched rolls or cards that were capable
> >> of amazing musical feats in the 19th and early 20th centuries. No
> >> electronic logic involved of course, but still amazing it it's day.
> >
> > Yes...the computer age could be said to have started with Jacquard, who
> > invented punch cards for weaving in the Industrial Revolution.
>
> Yes, I remember studying that in detail in design school.
>
> >> BTW, *I* think you can cook. :-)
> >
> > Ah ty! Nicely said, without ever having eaten anything I've made LOL!
>
> You're welcome. I can "taste" between the lines. :-)

Fascinating concept really!


Well you sound like a good cook too!

Oh pshaw, on Sun 09 Dec 2007 09:51:19a, Arri London meant to say...

>
>
> Little Malice wrote:
>>
>> One time on Usenet, Arri London > said:
>> >
>> >
>> > Little Malice wrote:
>> > >
>> > > One time on Usenet, Wayne Boatwright >
>> > > said:
>> > > > Oh pshaw, on Thu 06 Dec 2007 07:06:28p, Arri London meant to
>> > > > say...
>> > > >
>> > > > > Sorry Wayne lost the thread when the browser had a
>> > > > > brain-freeze.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > The 'Guardian' site needs an RSS feed to work properly.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Try these sites:
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news...nts+the+robots
>> > +of+
>> > > > > the+future!+Video+and+Photos+Hi-Res.html
>> > > > >
>> > > > > http://robot.watch.impress.co.jp/cda...07/23/570.html
>> > > > > (site is in Japanese but pics are OK)
>> > > > >
>> > > > > www.toyota.co.jp/en/news/04/0311.html
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Yes computers cannot cook, but maybe they can. The chips in
>> > > > > those robots and the sushi machine could easily be considered
>> > > > > computers I suppose.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Anyway who said I could cook LOL!
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks, Ari, that's fascinating! FWIW, there were mechanically
>> > > > operated instruments that used punched rolls or cards that were
>> > > > capable of amazing musical feats in the 19th and early 20th
>> > > > centuries. No electronic logic involved of course, but still
>> > > > amazing it it's day.
>> > >
>> > > As a kid (late 60's) I knew an elderly lady in the neighborhood who
>> > > had a player piano that used punched rolls. I always found it
>> > > utterly fascinating.
>> > >
>> > > > BTW, *I* think you can cook. :-)
>> > >
>> > > I hope so, I've been taking his advice for years... ;-)
>>
>> > LOL mine or Wayne's or both???
>>
>> I was actually referring to you, but I take Wayne's advice too... :-)
>>
>> --
>> Jani in WA
>
> TYVM then. Wayne seems to be a good cook too!
>

Thanks, Ari!

--
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Date: Sun, 12/9/2007

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Oh pshaw, on Sun 09 Dec 2007 10:04:06a, Arri London meant to say...

>
>
> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>
>> Oh pshaw, on Sat 08 Dec 2007 11:38:46a, Arri London meant to say...
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Oh pshaw, on Thu 06 Dec 2007 07:06:28p, Arri London meant to say...
>> >>
>> >> > Sorry Wayne lost the thread when the browser had a brain-freeze.
>> >> >
>> >> > The 'Guardian' site needs an RSS feed to work properly.
>> >> >
>> >> > Try these sites:
>> >> >
>> >> > http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news...sents+the+robo
>> >> > ts+ of+ the+future!+Video+and+Photos+Hi-Res.html
>> >> >
>> >> > http://robot.watch.impress.co.jp/cda...07/23/570.html
>> >> > (site is in Japanese but pics are OK)
>> >> >
>> >> > www.toyota.co.jp/en/news/04/0311.html
>> >> >
>> >> > Yes computers cannot cook, but maybe they can. The chips in those
>> >> > robots and the sushi machine could easily be considered computers
>> >> > I suppose.
>> >> >
>> >> > Anyway who said I could cook LOL!
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Thanks, Ari, that's fascinating! FWIW, there were mechanically
>> >> operated instruments that used punched rolls or cards that were
>> >> capable of amazing musical feats in the 19th and early 20th
>> >> centuries. No electronic logic involved of course, but still
>> >> amazing it it's day.
>> >
>> > Yes...the computer age could be said to have started with Jacquard,
>> > who invented punch cards for weaving in the Industrial Revolution.
>>
>> Yes, I remember studying that in detail in design school.
>>
>> >> BTW, *I* think you can cook. :-)
>> >
>> > Ah ty! Nicely said, without ever having eaten anything I've made LOL!
>>
>> You're welcome. I can "taste" between the lines. :-)
>
> Fascinating concept really!

I think that when one cooks, it's not so hard to tell if someone else is a
good cook. Either that, or they're spending a hell of a lot of time
researching and copying things other people wrote.

> Well you sound like a good cook too!
>

Thanks, again!


--
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Date: Sun, 12/9/2007

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On Sat, 8 Dec 2007 19:23:44 -0500, "Dee.Dee" >
wrote:

>> They're on shelves. No leaks down there. Wouldn't bother me if they
>> break. <eg> I'd just say: "See! I told you we should have sold
>> them"
>>
>> Lou
>
>Who would you say that to? Dear Wife?

We're not married or planning on it, so lets call her my better half.

>Could it be anything like this
>scenario at our house?
>
>Dee: I would love to get rid of that.
>DH: Well, I'll put it on Ebay.
>Dee: You've been saying that. When are you going to do it?
>Silence.
>
>
>Months, if not years later:
>
>DH: Why are you putting these in the trash?
>Dee: They've been hanging around here too long.
>DH: I thought they were going to go onto Ebay.
>Dee: You've been saying that. When are you going to do it?
>Silence.

Not really. She's the eBay queen. But she does silence me other ways.

Lou

On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 08:53:25 -0800, sf wrote:

>On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 11:04:11 -0500, "Dee.Dee" >
>wrote:
>
>>If DH choses to do it and keep up with the paper chase, mailing, collecting
>>the money, that's his business. But obviously he just likes to talk about
>>it. There is nothing to indicate in that scenario that it is something I
>>want to do.
>
>I suggest using Craig's List, if you have a local one. Make pick up
>part of the deal. No mailing involved. It's a good place to just
>*give* things way too. No mailing or money exchange and you can off
>it easily.
>
>Remember how fast it goes is all in the marketing and photography
>(you're good with a camera, so that's no problem for you). Son sold
>some fabric I'd had in the basement forever by calling it "vintage"...
>and got rid of it in a matter of hours. I guess he used the term
>because some of those pieces were at least 20 years old. A quilter
>bought the fabric, so it went to a decent home and ended up the way it
>was intended. LOL

We've had horrible luck with Craigs list. We don't bother anymore.

Lou

<sf> wrote in message ...
> On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 11:04:11 -0500, "Dee.Dee" >
> wrote:
>
>>If DH choses to do it and keep up with the paper chase, mailing,
>>collecting
>>the money, that's his business. But obviously he just likes to talk about
>>it. There is nothing to indicate in that scenario that it is something I
>>want to do.
>
> I suggest using Craig's List, if you have a local one. Make pick up
> part of the deal. No mailing involved. It's a good place to just
> *give* things way too. No mailing or money exchange and you can off
> it easily.
>
> Remember how fast it goes is all in the marketing and photography
> (you're good with a camera, so that's no problem for you). Son sold
> some fabric I'd had in the basement forever by calling it "vintage"...
> and got rid of it in a matter of hours. I guess he used the term
> because some of those pieces were at least 20 years old. A quilter
> bought the fabric, so it went to a decent home and ended up the way it
> was intended. LOL
>
> --

Thanks for suggesting Craig's list. I give my 'stuff' to the local county
who sells and donates the money to women's shelters.

But I'm talking about 'stuff' which DH will just not let go of, which I
would have to physically load into the car/truck and am physically incapable
of doing. Obviously, he's the boss in this situation - damn!

Dee Dee