On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:47:53 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>Oh pshaw, on Tue 11 Dec 2007 08:37:24a, Lou Decruss meant to say...
>
>> On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 07:58:18 -0500, Goomba38 >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>FarmI wrote:
>>>
>>>> I had a similar reaction. Spam is real poverty food. One either eats
>>>> it because there simply is nothing else, like the Brits had to do in
>>>> WWII, or because one is so broke that it's all one can afford. It
>>>> certainly isn't something to eat if one appreciates food.
>>>>
>>>I think there is a HUGE group of people who just LIKE it! How else can
>>>you explain Hawaii and Guam being the highest consumers of Spam in the
>>>world?
>>
>> Oh ya!!! Hawaii and Guam have such HUGE populations. I know exactly
>> zero people in real life who eat that stuff.
>>
>> Lou

>
>But how many people do you actually know in real life? :-)

Sometimes I think too many.

Lou

Oh pshaw, on Tue 11 Dec 2007 11:09:42a, Lou Decruss meant to say...

> On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:47:53 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
>>Oh pshaw, on Tue 11 Dec 2007 08:37:24a, Lou Decruss meant to say...
>>
>>> On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 07:58:18 -0500, Goomba38 >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>FarmI wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I had a similar reaction. Spam is real poverty food. One either
eats
>>>>> it because there simply is nothing else, like the Brits had to do in
>>>>> WWII, or because one is so broke that it's all one can afford. It
>>>>> certainly isn't something to eat if one appreciates food.
>>>>>
>>>>I think there is a HUGE group of people who just LIKE it! How else can
>>>>you explain Hawaii and Guam being the highest consumers of Spam in the
>>>>world?
>>>
>>> Oh ya!!! Hawaii and Guam have such HUGE populations. I know exactly
>>> zero people in real life who eat that stuff.
>>>
>>> Lou
>
>>
>>But how many people do you actually know in real life? :-)
>
> Sometimes I think too many.
>
> Lou
>
>

Did you ever consider that some of them might be closet SPAM eaters?

Gawd, I loathe the stuff! :-)

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"Dee.Dee" > wrote

> "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote

>> I had a similar reaction. Spam is real poverty food. One either eats it
>> because there simply is nothing else, like the Brits had to do in WWII,
>> or because one is so broke that it's all one can afford. It certainly
>> isn't something to eat if one appreciates food.

> Hawaiians.

I don't know if this is true or not, but I remember noticing how
much a can of Spam cost and being shocked at how expensive
it was.

nancy

On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:15:37 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>Oh pshaw, on Tue 11 Dec 2007 11:09:42a, Lou Decruss meant to say...
>
>> On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:47:53 GMT, Wayne Boatwright

>>>But how many people do you actually know in real life? :-)
>>
>> Sometimes I think too many.
>>
>> Lou
>>
>>
>
>Did you ever consider that some of them might be closet SPAM eaters?

Please stop Wayne. I've already been having nightmares recently. <g>
>
>Gawd, I loathe the stuff! :-)

I tried it once about 25 years ago. Never again. And some people say
sardines smell bad. <gurrrrrrr>

Lou

"FarmI" wrote
> "Cshenk" > wrote in message

> LOL. Haven't done any breadmaking for a few months but it's soemthing I
> enjoy and, yes, I am scrupulous about my measuring when I do get to do it.

Yes, I use a breadmaker so it's more critical as you dont 'adjust' the same.
I never did get the hang of making it without a machine. I have wrist
problems which makes it harder.

>> Dunno, I never got to ride it. It must be better though as it's cheaper
>> than shipped by truck all the way up there. Now they only have to truck
>> it to the lower end of the rails.
>
> And your estimation of it's freighting is closer to the mark than I was:
> http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/s...22-913,00.html

It was one of the things folks were excited about there on my last trip.

>> Teeter is good for when you need the odder items but their cans of
>> veggies are the same brand as anyone else so paying 1.19 there vice
>> 79cents elsewhere is silly.
>
> Was there a reason why you specifically gave as an example cans of
> veggies? Wouldn't the price of their fresh veggies and fruit be a better
> indicator?

Lowest common denominator was the only reason. Although I do shop at Harris
Teeter and a local Kroger store (Kroger here would be much like your
Woolworths), most of my bulk shopping is at the military commisary.

>> fancy premade TV dinners in the cart.
>
> I've never had a TV dinner and I can't even recall seeing one in a shop
> either. I must have a look and see if I can find one next time I go to
> the supermarket but I very much doubt whether I would buy one.

LOL, I do not blame you nor do I recall seeing them in OZ. Thats ok, I
wasnt looking for them either. I do recall fondly a few frozen meat pies
from there. I'm not saying they are haute cuisine, but they were pretty
tasty and we got some boxes of them for the Chiefs mess freezer each trip.
Much better than a USA 'hot pocket' at 2am when you are hungry. Sorry, I do
not recall brand names.

>> Food in the USA is flat out cheaper than most lands when it comes to
>> quality staples.
>> Your A550 for 2 weeks, would be USA250$ for the same stuff probably.
>
> It may be, so lets compare notes on our shopping carts, just for fun..

I will try. So far, I have been adjusting though to use the prices at the
local grocery stores, not the commisary which is cheaper generally. Meats
are where the main commisary savings are. To understand wise shopping at a
commisary you have to add in that they do not have 'store brands'. That
means if I want a can of corn, I have to get Delmonte or Green Giant (common
decent brands). Out in town, I can get a can of corn for less, but it will
be a store brand which may or may not be as good. Think of the black and
white bags there in OZ. Thats a 'storebrand'.

Ok, fresh corn- seasonal prices. Right now, 4 for 1$ but can go as low as
20 for 1$. Like many, I get lots then and freeze it. Its not as good
frozen as fresh, but it's better than canned if wrapped right and can hold
'well enough' for 3 months or so. It's shifting price just now to be
50cents each over the next 2-3 weeks as the last of the pre-winter crops
come in. It will be available year round from soutern parts, but reach 1$
an ear at least. Sheldon lives far enough north, he may be at that price now
(farther shipping costs).

Lets take fresh apples. Sheldon lives closer to the source of the good
ones. I live a bit south of the main growing areas so my prices are higher.
I can get a mixed bag of good lookig ones (8 to a bag roughly but could be 9
smaller or 7 larger). That bag is about 2.50$ in town. 2.00$ at commisary.
I usually pick out individual ones though and am partial to Granny Smiths at
89cents a lb. Apples of the better types are variable seasonal priced
(always there, but prices will swing) and this is the season for them still.
Later they will cost as much as double.

Potatoes. Always cheap in the USA. There is seasonal variation there but
it isnt as noticable. One of the things I noticed at Woolworths was they
are either double the cost where you are, or like Japan, a seasonal product
with a big shift in prices and i was seeing the high price time. It was
mid-winter when I was there last. They should have been cheaper, but I just
recall they were not. It's also hard to compareas some of the more common
USA ones, just were not there. I was looking for Idahos (almost impossible
to find in Japan, very expensive when you do find them even at the commisary
there).
USA Sweet potatoes: 19cents a lb when I got them for Thanksgiving.
Normally they are a bit more, lets fudge and say up to 30cents a lb? Since
i'm normally getting potatoes by the bag, a 5lb bag of regular waxy white or
red skinned ones, 1.50$ is what i recall most. We arent major potato eaters
so a bag can last us 2 months.

Rice: Hard one to catagorize as i refuse to even look at the cheap stuff.
What I get is a calrose medium grain. 5 lbs will last us 2 weeks. Thats
2.26Kg on the bag I have dribbles left of now. The only 'price checking' I
do there is when I have a choice of good brands. I am partial to Hinode.
The current bag is 'Calrose' at 3.59$ but I think I got that at Harris
Teeter (higher price place). Now that I have my chest freezer, I'll get the
next bag at Asian Grocery for 10$ for a 20lb bag. They have a Thailand
brand I like. If i recall it right, my rice prices are not too far off from
yours?

> I don't buy prepared food to any great extent witht he exception of sliced
> ham and ocassional packs of sliced cheese if I know I'll need to make

I do get quite a few cans of various things. It's more a storage issue and
working hours combined with distance to commisary. Contadina brand tomato
products, RoTel tomatoes with green chiles.

> sandwiches. I buy meat and veg and fruit and cook meals from scratch and

I get blocks of cheese and use a cheese slicer for samwiches, but I also get
some deli cheeses and meats if they have something good with a decent sale.

> will buy an ocassional bag of prewashed veg like spinach or sald mixes -

Rare but I've done that at times. Bags normally are between 1.50$ and
2.50$.

> moastly we grow salad veg. I buy ingredients for cakes and baking and
> bake from scratch. I buy some canned goods (pineapple, canned tomatoes if
> I don't have any preserved ones, creamed corn, sardines, tuna, salmon,
> baked beans). I buy some frozen veg (peas and corn if we haven't grown
> any

Ok, I make most of our bread. Baking products a given. a 2lb loaf will
cost me about 50cents in materials.
Creamed corn and other veggies, 50-70cents a can.
Tuna varies with type, I tend to the cheaper ones as my recipes that use it
take just fine to that.
Salmon, fresh, 2.99$ a lb. Can be as high as 4.99lb.
Some frozen 'mixed stirfry vegetables' for fast meal needs (add a little
chicken or some shrimp and off you go).

> recently). I buy ice cream about once a year as we don't really eat it
> much. I buy lots of dairy products (milk, cream, sour cream, kilo blocks
> of

I dont get ice cream often either. Family isnt into sweets much.
Milk, yes. 2.59gallon here

> domestic cheese, and specialty cheese like Stilton, Camembert and Blue

Domerstic cheese, usually 2.50$ or so a lb? Very brand and type dependant.
Specialty cheeses as well, muenster, brie, gouda- generally think 7.99lb and
can be more- Commisary mostly for this one and meats

> Aaah - juice - I buy orange and mango juices and carbonated drinks.

Pepsi for Don, he's happy with the big bottles so a bit over 1$
Juices- price-shop, depends on what is on sale. Might be grapefruit one
week, grape another, orange a third etc. I'm usually getting 3$ or so worth
of juice a week.

>
>> mustard .09 (a tenth of a bottle?)
>
> Meaningless without knowing the brand and size. I make my own
> mustard. But when I do buy mustard it's Gulden's spicy brown, I don't
> remember the exact size right now and I'm not going down to the
> basement fridge right now where I keep it but it's the big jar, like
> 24 ounces I think.
>

Ever try the Beaverton Foods Inglehoffer Creamy Dill mustard?
Tasty on corned beef and fresh ham.

blake murphy > wrote in
:

> On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 05:49:37 GMT, Sarah Gray >
> wrote:

>>I like good mustards, too, but if the choice is good mustard or meat for
>>dinner, I'm going for the cheap stuff, as long as it's not *gross*.
>
> yeah, but you're not eating a whole jar of the stuff. on a
> per-serving basis, you're not spending that much more.
>

True, but on the other hand, I'd rather not buy a condiment that adds an
extra 2 or 3 dollars to my grocery bill the week I buy it.

"FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message
>
> I had a similar reaction. Spam is real poverty food. One either eats it
> because there simply is nothing else, like the Brits had to do in WWII, or
> because one is so broke that it's all one can afford. It certainly isn't
> something to eat if one appreciates food.

Sorry to disappoint you but I do appreciate and buy some rather expensive
foods, but I like Spam every now and again.

My cheese and olive oil are hand carried from Italy, my bread comes fresh
from a bakery, our favorite steak is rib eye, but you'll also find a can of
Spam in the cupboard. I like scrapple too.
--
Ed
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/

"Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote in message
et...
>
> "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message
>>
>> I had a similar reaction. Spam is real poverty food. One either eats it
>> because there simply is nothing else, like the Brits had to do in WWII,
>> or because one is so broke that it's all one can afford. It certainly
>> isn't something to eat if one appreciates food.
>
> Sorry to disappoint you but I do appreciate and buy some rather expensive
> foods, but I like Spam every now and again.
>
> My cheese and olive oil are hand carried from Italy, my bread comes fresh
> from a bakery, our favorite steak is rib eye, but you'll also find a can
> of Spam in the cupboard. I like scrapple too.
> --
> Ed
> http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/
>

Applause!
Dee Dee

Oh pshaw, on Tue 11 Dec 2007 08:23:13p, Edwin Pawlowski meant to say...

>
> "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message
>>
>> I had a similar reaction. Spam is real poverty food. One either eats
>> it because there simply is nothing else, like the Brits had to do in
>> WWII, or because one is so broke that it's all one can afford. It
>> certainly isn't something to eat if one appreciates food.
>
> Sorry to disappoint you but I do appreciate and buy some rather
> expensive foods, but I like Spam every now and again.
>
> My cheese and olive oil are hand carried from Italy, my bread comes
> fresh from a bakery, our favorite steak is rib eye, but you'll also find
> a can of Spam in the cupboard. I like scrapple too.

I'm more in line with you, Ed, and I absolutely love scrapple if it's
homemade. Still, I somehow just can't get past the flavor and texture ofr
Spam.

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"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
3.184...
> Oh pshaw, on Tue 11 Dec 2007 08:23:13p, Edwin Pawlowski meant to say...
>
>>
>> "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message
>>>
>>> I had a similar reaction. Spam is real poverty food. One either eats
>>> it because there simply is nothing else, like the Brits had to do in
>>> WWII, or because one is so broke that it's all one can afford. It
>>> certainly isn't something to eat if one appreciates food.
>>
>> Sorry to disappoint you but I do appreciate and buy some rather
>> expensive foods, but I like Spam every now and again.
>>
>> My cheese and olive oil are hand carried from Italy, my bread comes
>> fresh from a bakery, our favorite steak is rib eye, but you'll also find
>> a can of Spam in the cupboard. I like scrapple too.
>
> I'm more in line with you, Ed, and I absolutely love scrapple if it's
> homemade. Still, I somehow just can't get past the flavor and texture ofr
> Spam.
>
> --
> Wayne Boatwright



Same here - but I have to confess that I've eaten in a restaurant in Hawaii
that served Hawaiian food, spam and cabbage -- hey, not bad! But I couldn't
prepare it, nor would I try to duplicate it -- I can't get past opening the
can.

But DH always keeps a pack of 3 on the shelf. (I won't take a picture of
them, Wayne. -- I am so ashamed ;-)) because they are right beside the 3
pack of chipped beef. The LOWER shelf.

Dee Dee

Oh pshaw, on Tue 11 Dec 2007 08:52:12p, Dee.Dee meant to say...

>
> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
> 3.184...
>> Oh pshaw, on Tue 11 Dec 2007 08:23:13p, Edwin Pawlowski meant to say...
>>
>>>
>>> "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> I had a similar reaction. Spam is real poverty food. One either
>>>> eats it because there simply is nothing else, like the Brits had to
>>>> do in WWII, or because one is so broke that it's all one can afford.
>>>> It certainly isn't something to eat if one appreciates food.
>>>
>>> Sorry to disappoint you but I do appreciate and buy some rather
>>> expensive foods, but I like Spam every now and again.
>>>
>>> My cheese and olive oil are hand carried from Italy, my bread comes
>>> fresh from a bakery, our favorite steak is rib eye, but you'll also
>>> find a can of Spam in the cupboard. I like scrapple too.
>>
>> I'm more in line with you, Ed, and I absolutely love scrapple if it's
>> homemade. Still, I somehow just can't get past the flavor and texture
>> ofr Spam.
>>
>> --
>> Wayne Boatwright
>
>
>
> Same here - but I have to confess that I've eaten in a restaurant in
> Hawaii that served Hawaiian food, spam and cabbage -- hey, not bad! But
> I couldn't prepare it, nor would I try to duplicate it -- I can't get
> past opening the can.
>
> But DH always keeps a pack of 3 on the shelf. (I won't take a picture
> of
> them, Wayne. -- I am so ashamed ;-)) because they are right beside the 3
> pack of chipped beef. The LOWER shelf.
>
> Dee Dee
>
>
>
>
>

LOL! As "they" say, there's no accounting for taste. :-)

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On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 03:23:13 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote:

>
>"FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message
>>
>> I had a similar reaction. Spam is real poverty food. One either eats it
>> because there simply is nothing else, like the Brits had to do in WWII, or
>> because one is so broke that it's all one can afford. It certainly isn't
>> something to eat if one appreciates food.
>
>Sorry to disappoint you but I do appreciate and buy some rather expensive
>foods, but I like Spam every now and again.
>
>My cheese and olive oil are hand carried from Italy, my bread comes fresh
>from a bakery, our favorite steak is rib eye, but you'll also find a can of
>Spam in the cupboard. I like scrapple too.


SPAM on vienna bread with tomato, mayo, and lettuce......

MMMMmmmmm.........
<rj>

"cybercat" > wrote in message
.. .
>
> "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote
>>
>> I had a similar reaction. Spam is real poverty food. One either eats it
>> because there simply is nothing else, like the Brits had to do in WWII,
>> or because one is so broke that it's all one can afford. It certainly
>> isn't something to eat if one appreciates food.
>
> While I do think Spam is disgusting, I think it's going too far to say
> that
> everyone should find it disgusting. I absolutely agree that it is no less
> disgusting than hot dogs due to what it is made of.
>
> I think caviar is disgusting, but I would never say that it or spam or
> anything else is not "something to eat if one appreciates food."
>
> There's just no accounting for taste. One can have a deep
> appreciation for bad food, kind of like Greg Morrow has
> a deep appreciation for puerile potty humor.

My husband actually likes the stuff and complained that I never served it to
him. Eeek!

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
news:bmK7j.3951$xd.3055@trndny03...
> My husband actually likes the stuff and complained that I never served it
> to him. Eeek!

The can used to have a key that you wound up and around, and it opened.
One could almost open it oneself ;-))

Dee Dee

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
>
> My cheese and olive oil are hand carried from Italy,

it might be easier in a bag

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>> My cheese and olive oil are hand carried from Italy,
>
> it might be easier in a bag
>
>

lol



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On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:07:19 -0600, Lou Decruss >
wrote:

>On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:16:48 GMT, blake murphy >
>wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:10:21 GMT, Lou Decruss > wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 05:54:30 GMT, Sarah Gray >
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>I'll give him that boar's head deli stuff is very good. But I don't
>>>>think my life is lacking because I buy the store brand or the packaged
>>>>stuff.
>>>
>>>Boars Head is very good, but so are many others in my part of the
>>>world. The price difference isn't worth it to me. Except for
>>>pepperoni. I can buy it at a butcher 1 block away for $6.68 a pound.
>>>Far more than other brands, but for me it's worth it.
>>>
>>>Lou
>>
>>they switched over to boar's head almost exclusively at my local giant
>>(md). at least a dollar or two more per pound than some other brands
>>they used to stock, with no appreciable increase in quality. i'm not
>>very impressed.
>
>The Italian deli's in my area seem to have stopped carrying BH.
>There's other stuff just as good but cheaper. Here BH was more than a
>dollar or two more. It was usually double.
>
>Lou

you may be right. let's just say there was sticker shock involved.

your pal,
blake

On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 03:36:02 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>Oh pshaw, on Tue 11 Dec 2007 08:23:13p, Edwin Pawlowski meant to say...
>
>>
>> "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message
>>>
>>> I had a similar reaction. Spam is real poverty food. One either eats
>>> it because there simply is nothing else, like the Brits had to do in
>>> WWII, or because one is so broke that it's all one can afford. It
>>> certainly isn't something to eat if one appreciates food.
>>
>> Sorry to disappoint you but I do appreciate and buy some rather
>> expensive foods, but I like Spam every now and again.
>>
>> My cheese and olive oil are hand carried from Italy, my bread comes
>> fresh from a bakery, our favorite steak is rib eye, but you'll also find
>> a can of Spam in the cupboard. I like scrapple too.
>
>I'm more in line with you, Ed, and I absolutely love scrapple if it's
>homemade. Still, I somehow just can't get past the flavor and texture ofr
>Spam.

there's no getting around the fact that it looks like dog food when
you open the can.

your pal,
blake

Oh pshaw, on Wed 12 Dec 2007 10:39:44a, blake murphy meant to say...

> On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 03:36:02 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
>>Oh pshaw, on Tue 11 Dec 2007 08:23:13p, Edwin Pawlowski meant to say...
>>
>>>
>>> "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> I had a similar reaction. Spam is real poverty food. One either eats
>>>> it because there simply is nothing else, like the Brits had to do in
>>>> WWII, or because one is so broke that it's all one can afford. It
>>>> certainly isn't something to eat if one appreciates food.
>>>
>>> Sorry to disappoint you but I do appreciate and buy some rather
>>> expensive foods, but I like Spam every now and again.
>>>
>>> My cheese and olive oil are hand carried from Italy, my bread comes
>>> fresh from a bakery, our favorite steak is rib eye, but you'll also
find
>>> a can of Spam in the cupboard. I like scrapple too.
>>
>>I'm more in line with you, Ed, and I absolutely love scrapple if it's
>>homemade. Still, I somehow just can't get past the flavor and texture
ofr
>>Spam.
>
> there's no getting around the fact that it looks like dog food when
> you open the can.
>
> your pal,
> blake
>

It also smells like it to me.

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