http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/1...food/#more-146

No wonder I'm broke and always hungry just tryin' to stay alive!

Excerpts:

"The survey found that higher-calorie, energy-dense foods are the better
bargain for cash-strapped shoppers. Energy-dense munchies cost on average
$1.76 per 1,000 kcal, compared with $18.16 per 1,000 kcal for low-energy but
nutritious foods.
The survey also showed that low-calorie foods were more likely to increase
in price, surging 19.5 percent over the two-year study period. High-calorie
foods remained a relative bargain, dropping in price by 1.8 percent.

Based on his findings, a 2,000-calorie diet would cost just $3.52 a day if
it consisted of junk food, compared with $36.32 a day for a diet of
low-energy dense foods. However, most people eat a mix of foods. The average
American spends about $7 a day on food, although low-income people spend
about $4, says Dr. Drewnowski."

Dee Dee

"Dee.Dee" > wrote in message
...
> http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/1...food/#more-146
>
> No wonder I'm broke and always hungry just tryin' to stay alive!
>
> Excerpts:
>
> "The survey found that higher-calorie, energy-dense foods are the better
> bargain for cash-strapped shoppers. Energy-dense munchies cost on average
> $1.76 per 1,000 kcal, compared with $18.16 per 1,000 kcal for low-energy
> but nutritious foods.
> The survey also showed that low-calorie foods were more likely to increase
> in price, surging 19.5 percent over the two-year study period.
> High-calorie foods remained a relative bargain, dropping in price by 1.8
> percent.
>
> Based on his findings, a 2,000-calorie diet would cost just $3.52 a day if
> it consisted of junk food, compared with $36.32 a day for a diet of
> low-energy dense foods. However, most people eat a mix of foods. The
> average American spends about $7 a day on food, although low-income people
> spend about $4, says Dr. Drewnowski."
>
> Dee Dee

When I was in college I ate a lot of rice and beans. I learned to cook
soups; navy bean, lentil, split pea.

Mitch

"Dee.Dee" > wrote in message
...
> http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/1...food/#more-146
>
> No wonder I'm broke and always hungry just tryin' to stay alive!

You would be hungry if you eat the junk food mentioned in the article as
it's empty calories - people who eat a lot of junk food are effectively
starving themselves. But as for broke??? Are US food prices really so high
for nutritious food?

The report says that the average American spends $7/day on food and that
surely can't be right as it's a miniscule amount of money. I did a currency
converson and that is about $7.97 in my currency and, if the two of us were
eating meat for an evening meal, I'd spend at least $10 in my currency just
on the meat component of the meal.

It was such a thought provoking post that I have now spent some time
wandering cyberspace. Thank you.

> Excerpts:
>
> "The survey found that higher-calorie, energy-dense foods are the better
> bargain for cash-strapped shoppers. Energy-dense munchies cost on average
> > $1.76 per 1,000 kcal, compared with $18.16 per 1,000 kcal for low-energy
> > but nutritious foods.
>
> The survey also showed that low-calorie foods were more likely to increase
> in price, surging 19.5 percent over the two-year study period.
> High-calorie foods remained a relative bargain, dropping in price by 1.8
> percent.
>
> Based on his findings, a 2,000-calorie diet would cost just $3.52 a day if
> it consisted of junk food, compared with $36.32 a day for a diet of
> low-energy dense foods. However, most people eat a mix of foods. The
> average American spends about $7 a day on food, although low-income people
> spend about $4, says Dr. Drewnowski."
>
> Dee Dee
>
>
>
>

"FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in
:

> "Dee.Dee" > wrote in message
> ...
>> http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/1...r-healthy-food
>> /#more-146
>>
>> No wonder I'm broke and always hungry just tryin' to stay alive!
>
> You would be hungry if you eat the junk food mentioned in the article
> as it's empty calories - people who eat a lot of junk food are
> effectively starving themselves. But as for broke??? Are US food
> prices really so high for nutritious food?
>
> The report says that the average American spends $7/day on food and
> that surely can't be right as it's a miniscule amount of money. I did
> a currency converson and that is about $7.97 in my currency and, if
> the two of us were eating meat for an evening meal, I'd spend at least
> $10 in my currency just on the meat component of the meal.
>

All the meat you eat is $16.00 a pound? Maybe you should shop somewhere
cheaper...

$7 a day per person is $210 a month. Pretty small budget, but do-able,
especially if you are someone who does not cook complicated things. I can
feed myself and my daughter (including buying paper products and other non-
food comestibles) on around $300 easily...

The grocery price situation is not as dire as many make out.. you just have
to know how to cook, be creative about it and be flexible about specific
ingredients; buying things when they are on sale and such.

<snip>

"FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote

> The report says that the average American spends $7/day on food and that
> surely can't be right as it's a miniscule amount of money. I did a
> currency converson and that is about $7.97 in my currency and, if the two
> of us were eating meat for an evening meal, I'd spend at least $10 in my
> currency just on the meat component of the meal.

I wonder how they came up with that number. Do they add up
all grocery food sales/restaurant sales/roadside farm stand sales?
Factor in home grown food? Makes no sense. Having said that,
food in my house could be decent to very good for $14 a day, being
that there are 2 of us.

nancy

"Michael \"Dog3\"" > wrote in
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> Sarah Gray > dropped this
> . 17.102: in
> rec.food.cooking
>>
>> All the meat you eat is $16.00 a pound? Maybe you should shop
>> somewhere cheaper...
>>
>> $7 a day per person is $210 a month. Pretty small budget, but
>> do-able, especially if you are someone who does not cook complicated
>> things. I can feed myself and my daughter (including buying paper
>> products and other non- food comestibles) on around $300 easily...
>>
>> The grocery price situation is not as dire as many make out.. you
>> just have to know how to cook, be creative about it and be flexible
>> about specific ingredients; buying things when they are on sale and
>> such.
>
> Whoosh... over the top of my head. I'm not sure what this whole thread
> was about. Money is not a problem in my household but I'll be damned
> if I'll spend $16.00 a pound for meat. Yes, for a special meal I'll
> spend it but not often. Well, and for my seafood attack Lately we
> have been buying larger packages and freezing. I know some folks have
> limited freezer space. I don't really know what we spend a month on
> grocery items but it's not at all what people might think. I can tell
> you to the penny what the cat,dog and horse food costs though. I do
> know if I had only $7 a day I could make due for the 2 of us. I'd be
> buying a lot of legumes and sale meats for soups and stews. I'd have
> to add funds for the GasX though. Gawd... $16.00 a pound... I'd be
> ****ed.
>
> Michael
>

They said that meat alone for a meal for two would cost them $10 in
their currency... I actually did the math wrong, that would make it
$17.56 per pound in US dollars, assuming a quarter pound per serving.
Even at a half pund per serving, that's more than I'd pay for meat,
unless I had an unlimited budget, or was splurging for some reason.

"Sarah Gray" > wrote in message
. 17.102...
> "Michael \"Dog3\"" > wrote in
> 6.121:
>
>> Sarah Gray > dropped this
>> . 17.102: in
>> rec.food.cooking
>>>
>>> All the meat you eat is $16.00 a pound? Maybe you should shop
>>> somewhere cheaper...
>>>
>>> $7 a day per person is $210 a month. Pretty small budget, but
>>> do-able, especially if you are someone who does not cook complicated
>>> things. I can feed myself and my daughter (including buying paper
>>> products and other non- food comestibles) on around $300 easily...
>>>
>>> The grocery price situation is not as dire as many make out.. you
>>> just have to know how to cook, be creative about it and be flexible
>>> about specific ingredients; buying things when they are on sale and
>>> such.
>>
>> Whoosh... over the top of my head. I'm not sure what this whole thread
>> was about. Money is not a problem in my household but I'll be damned
>> if I'll spend $16.00 a pound for meat. Yes, for a special meal I'll
>> spend it but not often. Well, and for my seafood attack Lately we
>> have been buying larger packages and freezing. I know some folks have
>> limited freezer space. I don't really know what we spend a month on
>> grocery items but it's not at all what people might think. I can tell
>> you to the penny what the cat,dog and horse food costs though. I do
>> know if I had only $7 a day I could make due for the 2 of us. I'd be
>> buying a lot of legumes and sale meats for soups and stews. I'd have
>> to add funds for the GasX though. Gawd... $16.00 a pound... I'd be
>> ****ed.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>
> They said that meat alone for a meal for two would cost them $10 in
> their currency... I actually did the math wrong, that would make it
> $17.56 per pound in US dollars, assuming a quarter pound per serving.
> Even at a half pund per serving, that's more than I'd pay for meat,
> unless I had an unlimited budget, or was splurging for some reason.


Perhaps the NYTimes author assumes that everyone lives in NY -- just as the
political pundits seem to think we all have the D.C. mindset.

I found the 'comments' at the bottom of the article interesting.

Dee Dee

On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 13:21:36 GMT, Sarah Gray >
wrote:

>"FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in
:
>
>> "Dee.Dee" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/1...r-healthy-food
>>> /#more-146
>>>
>>> No wonder I'm broke and always hungry just tryin' to stay alive!
>>
>> You would be hungry if you eat the junk food mentioned in the article
>> as it's empty calories - people who eat a lot of junk food are
>> effectively starving themselves. But as for broke??? Are US food
>> prices really so high for nutritious food?
>>
>> The report says that the average American spends $7/day on food and
>> that surely can't be right as it's a miniscule amount of money. I did
>> a currency converson and that is about $7.97 in my currency and, if
>> the two of us were eating meat for an evening meal, I'd spend at least
>> $10 in my currency just on the meat component of the meal.
>>
>
>All the meat you eat is $16.00 a pound? Maybe you should shop somewhere
>cheaper...

$10 Australian dollars is $8.73 in US dollars.
http://www.x-rates.com/calculator.html





>
>$7 a day per person is $210 a month. Pretty small budget, but do-able,
>especially if you are someone who does not cook complicated things. I can
>feed myself and my daughter (including buying paper products and other non-
>food comestibles) on around $300 easily...
>
>The grocery price situation is not as dire as many make out.. you just have
>to know how to cook, be creative about it and be flexible about specific
>ingredients; buying things when they are on sale and such.
>
><snip>
>
>
--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

Michael "Dog3" wrote:
> Sarah Gray > dropped this
> . 17.102: in
> rec.food.cooking
>>
>> All the meat you eat is $16.00 a pound? Maybe you should shop
>> somewhere cheaper...
>>
>> $7 a day per person is $210 a month. Pretty small budget, but
>> do-able, especially if you are someone who does not cook complicated
>> things. I can feed myself and my daughter (including buying paper
>> products and other non- food comestibles) on around $300 easily...
>>
>> The grocery price situation is not as dire as many make out.. you
>> just have to know how to cook, be creative about it and be flexible
>> about specific ingredients; buying things when they are on sale and
>> such.
>
> Whoosh... over the top of my head. I'm not sure what this whole thread
> was about. Money is not a problem in my household but I'll be damned
> if I'll spend $16.00 a pound for meat. Yes, for a special meal I'll
> spend it but not often. Well, and for my seafood attack Lately we
> have been buying larger packages and freezing. I know some folks have
> limited freezer space. I don't really know what we spend a month on
> grocery items but it's not at all what people might think. I can tell
> you to the penny what the cat,dog and horse food costs though. I do
> know if I had only $7 a day I could make due for the 2 of us. I'd be
> buying a lot of legumes and sale meats for soups and stews. I'd have
> to add funds for the GasX though. Gawd... $16.00 a pound... I'd be
> ****ed.
>
> Michael

I checked with the butcher at Schnuck's about a 7 lb. (granted, it's bone-in
which adds to the weight but those bones make great stock!) standing rib
roast. Even that only costs $11.00/lb right now. I can't imagine paying
$16.00/lb! Shop sales, shop wisely, use coupons.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...

> I checked with the butcher at Schnuck's about a 7 lb. (granted, it's
> bone-in
> which adds to the weight but those bones make great stock!) standing rib
> roast. Even that only costs $11.00/lb right now. I can't imagine paying
> $16.00/lb! Shop sales, shop wisely, use coupons.
>
> Jill

And stay away from Savenor's in Boston, which offers:

Prime rib bone-in at $16.99
Prime rib boneless at $23.99
Prime tenderloin at $45.99

Don't even <ask> about Kobe beef.

Felice

"Nancy Young" wrote:
> "FarmI" wrote
>
> > The report says that the average American spends $7/day on food and that
> > surely can't be right as it's a miniscule amount of money. I did a
> > currency converson and that is about $7.97 in my currency and, if the two
> > of us were eating meat for an evening meal, I'd spend at least $10 in my
> > currency just on the meat component of the meal.
>
> I wonder how they came up with that number. Do they add up
> all grocery food sales/restaurant sales/roadside farm stand sales?
> Factor in home grown food? Makes no sense. Having said that,
> food in my house could be decent to very good for $14 a day, being
> that there are 2 of us.

You can eat "decent" at $14 for two but certainly not much more than
bare essentials... there'd be little fresh produce, not much in way of
beverages except plain tap water, no snacks to speak, certainly no
alcoholic beverages, and you'd need to go real easy on the cheese,
even Velveeta ain't cheap, not much desserts (store brand jello?),
real skimpy on herbs and spices... I can go on. Sure, you can eat
inexpensive meat cuts but even then there wouldn't be much money left
over for accompaniments... and stews and soups every day get old fast,
especilaly if made low cost POW style (very juicy). Even a pound of
balogna costs like $5.... and then you need bread, mustard and maybe
some cheese and lettuce... where's the pickle, slaw, and beer. Yes,
you can subsist on $7 but portions will be small and uninteresting,
pretty much hospital/prison food.

The last I looked decent preground mystery meat from the stupidmarket
cost $4/lb, by the time the fat is cooked off all you'll have is two
servings.. and you still need to add about $4 more to make it a decent
meal... and that's only one meal, what about the rest of the day.

$14 a day feeds my six cats.

$14 a day is my average food bill for just me... Holiday meals are
probably the least expensive, turkey and ham is cheap. To be
perfectly honest I can easily fix a chef's salad for just me and it
will cost about $14... a measly can of decent sardines costs $3, and I
will usually use two (they're small).... but if I use one I add a can
of premium red salmon, costs $5... by the time I add all the produce,
a bunch of olives, a can of sliced beets, a couple sliced eggs, maybe
a fistful of walnuts, and some dressing I'm sure I got $14 on the
plate. I eat a lot of tinned fish, it's very healthful but definitely
not cheap... and I can't open just enough for me unless I want to try
to eat around six cat noses in my plate.

I spend a bit more than $100 a week on just food to feed just me,
purrrty close to another $100 a week to feed my six cats.
And I don't consider my usual diet very oppulent, it's mustly just
ordinary foods, but I don't skimp on the accompaniments just so I can
eat lobster and prime rib, in fact I probably haven't eaten lobster in
more than 10 years, shrimp neither, it's not something I crave, in
fact I think it's highly over rated, I'd much rather my sardines. But
me and my guys like our steak, so two small porterhouse ($14 worth) is
a dinner for us, and then there are veggies (cat's eat veggies too),
and my guys drink water but I drink a few 2nis. And I don't always
drink Crystal Palace... my booze bill is about $100 a week, and I
really don't drink a lot, maybe two drinks a day... mostly a tall
glass filled with ice, grapefruit juice, and a double shot of vodka...
the grapefruit juice costs as much if not more than the vodka but
juice is pasrt of the drink so itsprice counts, ice ain't free
either. But I'll also splurge on good scotch, Champagne, and my
favorite Ruffino dago red.

I've no idea how yoose eat for $7/day.... must be a lot of pasta with
two grape meata balles.

Oranges cost a buck a piece, I just ate two as an appetizer for
breakfast, supposed to eat "5 A Day", I eat more fresh produce than
what's considered a serving (btw, 5 a day is the minimum), apples cost
a buck a piece too, you're not gonna be eating much fresh produce on
$7/day, even a small crummy head of iceberg costs $2. Not sure what
else yet but I'm thinking my 1 quart bowl of raisin bran... need lots
of room for milk, yoose know why... my cats polish off a can of evap
first thing every morning. Dried cereal is expensive, milk ain't
cheap anymore, even one banana costs 30 cents. A lot of people feed
their pets crap foods, the cheapest brands they can find and no
variety... a high quality diet costs a whole lot less than vet bills.
Same with people too, eat cheap now pay big medical bills later.

Yesterday I picked up a plain cheese pie from the local pizzaria, just
happened to cost $13.95... $14 by my math. They make pizzas much
smaller than the 18" they used to years ago, and now they're very
stingy with the topping, this was 14", I finished it for lunch and
wasn't even full... years ago 3 slices and I was busting. A 14" pie
is actually about half the size of an 18" pie. When I was a kid the
corner pizzeria made 20" pies, so loaded with real mozz you could
barely handle a slice, and the entire pie cost 75 cents... then one
slice cost 10 cents and was enough for lunch. But today's food prices
are much different... back than an oversized hot corned beef on rye at
the kosher deli cost 35 cents... a full meal on real linen soup to
dessert with all the trimmings with impeccable service cost 35cents at
the Chinese.

I'm sorry, but unless you're in prison you can't eat a proper diet in
the US on $7/day, no way, no how, anyone claims they can doesn't have
the foggiest concept of a decent proper healthful diet, or they choose
not to remember what all they consume. And food costs in the US are
probably the lowest on the planet, but still, $7 barely buys a couple
ham n' cheese sammiches... a friggin' can of Spam, 4 slices of rye, a
few Kraft singles, mustard, pickle, slaw and a quart of milk costs
about ten bucks, and that's a do it yerself at home lunch for two, and
it sure ain't decent, more lurid. Anyone tells me on average they eat
decent on $7 an entire day I say is a pinnochio nosed fibber, or
weighs in at less than my six cats... but then your idea of decent
ain't mine.

Sheldon

Sheldon wrote:
> "Nancy Young" wrote:
>> "FarmI" wrote
>>
>>> The report says that the average American spends $7/day on food and
>>> that surely can't be right as it's a miniscule amount of money. I
>>> did a currency converson and that is about $7.97 in my currency
>>> and, if the two of us were eating meat for an evening meal, I'd
>>> spend at least $10 in my currency just on the meat component of the
>>> meal.
>>
>> I wonder how they came up with that number. Do they add up
>> all grocery food sales/restaurant sales/roadside farm stand sales?
>> Factor in home grown food? Makes no sense. Having said that,
>> food in my house could be decent to very good for $14 a day, being
>> that there are 2 of us.
>
> The last I looked decent preground mystery meat from the stupidmarket
> cost $4/lb, by the time the fat is cooked off all you'll have is two
> servings.. and you still need to add about $4 more to make it a decent
> meal... and that's only one meal, what about the rest of the day.
>
You seem to think everyone lives in New York. Produce where I live is the
least expensive thing you can buy even if you don't take the farmers market
(closes October - March or so) and roadside produce stands into
consideration. As for the rest of it, there's a good reason to live down
south. We have a longer growing season, hence cheaper produce for locally
grown items. Even with the imports, from the examples you gave (which I
snipped) everything costs less. I cannot fathom $4/lb for what you call
pre-ground "mystery meat" - ground chuck is $1.59/lb here. Even
flash-frozen seafood is cheap.

Jill

Janet Baraclough > wrote:
> > from "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> contains these words:
>
> > The report says that the average American spends $7/day on food and that
> > surely can't be right as it's a miniscule amount of money. �I did a
> > currency
> > converson and that is about $7.97 in my currency and, if the two of us were
> > eating meat for an evening meal, I'd spend at least $10 in my currency just
> > on the meat component of the meal.
>
> � Going by the prices quoted by Americans here, the cost of their
> supermarket basic supplies �are jaw-droppingly cheap compared with the
> UK, especially their meat prices.
>
> � �Take a look here for examples of UK prices in ASDA. ASDA is owned by
> Walmart, and roughly 30% cheaper than my local supermarket.
>
> https://www.mysupermarket.co.uk/Firs...rd/Step1.aspx?

Seems an account is necessary to enter that site... why don't you
simply list some basic foods with average prices, I have no reason not
to believe you, I know food costs substantially less in the US.

Sheldon

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> Sheldon wrote:
>> "Nancy Young" wrote:
>>> "FarmI" wrote
>>>
>>>> The report says that the average American spends $7/day on food and
>>>> that surely can't be right as it's a miniscule amount of money. I
>>>> did a currency converson and that is about $7.97 in my currency
>>>> and, if the two of us were eating meat for an evening meal, I'd
>>>> spend at least $10 in my currency just on the meat component of the
>>>> meal.
>>>
>>> I wonder how they came up with that number. Do they add up
>>> all grocery food sales/restaurant sales/roadside farm stand sales?
>>> Factor in home grown food? Makes no sense. Having said that,
>>> food in my house could be decent to very good for $14 a day, being
>>> that there are 2 of us.
>>
>> The last I looked decent preground mystery meat from the stupidmarket
>> cost $4/lb, by the time the fat is cooked off all you'll have is two
>> servings.. and you still need to add about $4 more to make it a decent
>> meal... and that's only one meal, what about the rest of the day.
>>

> You seem to think everyone lives in New York. Produce where I live is the
> least expensive thing you can buy even if you don't take the farmers
> market
> (closes October - March or so) and roadside produce stands into
> consideration. As for the rest of it, there's a good reason to live down
> south. We have a longer growing season, hence cheaper produce for locally
> grown items. Even with the imports, from the examples you gave (which I
> snipped) everything costs less. I cannot fathom $4/lb for what you call
> pre-ground "mystery meat" - ground chuck is $1.59/lb here. Even
> flash-frozen seafood is cheap.
>
> Jill
>
>

Although Sheldon lives in the state of New York, he lives in the sticks, so
he's not exposed to NY City prices. His supermarket's pretty average, too.
If he's spending more than you are for food, it's because he chooses to, not
because he's a prisoner of high prices.

Here in Rochester, Wegmans sells several kinds of ground beef. The price
ranges from $1.79 to $3.99 per pound. So, both your price range and his
example are valid, assuming his store (Price Chopper) sells what they
consider to be a better grade worth four bucks a pound.

On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 18:29:58 +1100, "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given>
wrote:

>"Dee.Dee" > wrote in message
...
>> http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/1...food/#more-146
>>
>> No wonder I'm broke and always hungry just tryin' to stay alive!
>
>You would be hungry if you eat the junk food mentioned in the article as
>it's empty calories - people who eat a lot of junk food are effectively
>starving themselves. But as for broke??? Are US food prices really so high
>for nutritious food?
>
>The report says that the average American spends $7/day on food and that
>surely can't be right as it's a miniscule amount of money. I did a currency
>converson and that is about $7.97 in my currency and, if the two of us were
>eating meat for an evening meal, I'd spend at least $10 in my currency just
>on the meat component of the meal.
>
>It was such a thought provoking post that I have now spent some time
>wandering cyberspace. Thank you.
>

The exchange rate is not the best way to determine the relative price
of an item. How long it takes the average person to earn enough money
to buy the same item in each country.













--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

The Cook wrote:

>
> The exchange rate is not the best way to determine the relative price
> of an item. How long it takes the average person to earn enough money
> to buy the same item in each country.

True. I've often read that the US spends much less on food compared to
percentage of income on the whole than many other countries.
I believe this helps contribute to the obesity issues we're
experiencing, lower end restaurant huge portion sizes, waste of
resources....
We are blessed by bounty, yet it curses us also.

jmcquown" wrote:

> examples you gave (which I snipped).

Ain't snipping fun. LOL

> I cannot fathom $4/lb for what you call pre-ground "mystery meat" -
> ground chuck is $1.59/lb here.

You braggin' or complainin'?

You can't fathom $4/lb preground mystery meat (the best of the worst)
is because you eat that $1.59/lb hog slop I wouldn't feed to a dog
because it's lower quality than the cheapest canned pet food. The NY
soup kitchens serve better than you eat to Bowery winos. Maybe if you
got a J O B you could afford to eat better than those southern food
stamp vittles... can't your starving artist "man" afford to treat his
kept woman better? Hey, you're the one always making it personal
with your Noo Yawk Cidy digs, so reap what you sow, red neck. You
wouldn't know what food costs, you always manage to get some guy to
stuff your panty, I mean pantry.

Sheldon

On Dec 7, 1:05�pm, Goomba38 > wrote:
> The Cook wrote:
>
> > The exchange rate is not the best way to determine the relative price
> > of an item. �How long it takes the average person to earn enough money
> > to buy the same item in each country.
>
> I've often read that the US spends much less on food compared to
> percentage of income on the whole than many other countries.

This is true, in fact many Americans pay nothing for food..

> I believe this helps contribute to the obesity issues we're
> experiencing.

This is false, and ridiculous... then by your fercocktah theory we'd
be able to tell people's wealth just by appearance, the more money
they have the fatter.

The US has the greatest proportion of sedentary jobs, even farmers no
longer sweat, machines do everything. And the US has recently
undergone a population explosion consisting primarilly of folks from
certain ethnic groups who are generally over weight due to genetics.
Obese people tend to gravitate to other obese people same as any other
unique group, so when obese people produce offspring the genetics
almost gaurantees obese children.

Most obese people actually consume less calories than normal weight
people but their genetic make up keeps them obese even if they diet to
death... many will lose weight by starving themselves but most gain it
right back plus more

Due to genetics obese people in general have no more control over
changing their size than one has over changing their race. Only the
same kind of bigots who harbor racist prejudice accuse obese people of
over eating.

Right now great strides are being made in science that will totally
obliterate obesity, and many other inherited maladies... genetic
repair is coming... stem cell rehab is coming, very soon cancer will
be as obsolete as polio

Sheldon

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
>
> Although Sheldon lives in the state of New York, he lives in the sticks, so
> he's not exposed to NY City prices. His supermarket's pretty average, too.
> If he's spending more than you are for food, it's because he chooses to, not
> because he's a prisoner of high prices.
>
> Here in Rochester, Wegmans sells several kinds of ground beef. The price
> ranges from $1.79 to $3.99 per pound. So, both your price range and his
> example are valid, assuming his store (Price Chopper) sells what they
> consider to be a better grade worth four bucks a pound


As usual JSB is talking out his ass.

I spent most of my life living downstate so I know NYC food prices
very well, better than you, better than most... food prices are
actually lower there than up here in hillybilly NY, quality is
substantially better there too... because there's more competition
down there, much more. And I don't buy preground mystery meat ever, I
grind my own... but I have eyes and I peruse the meat aisle, I
wouldn't eat that buck and a half range priced crap if they gave it to
me for free.... I wouldn't eat the $4 mystery meat either. My
grandparents ground their own, my parents ground their own, and I've
always ground my own... I remember my ex buying preground mystery meat
twice... both times as soon as I unwrapped the plastic the stench was
overwhelming, it went right in the trash. I don't know, maybe I'm
spoiled but when I grind meat it doesn't stink like maggoty roadkill,
nor is it all black in the center either. blech

My ground meat can be eaten raw, in fact I often do, only needs a
little s n' p, and maybe a dash of tobasco... most every time I make
meat loaf I load up a hard roll with the raw mixture to eat as cook's
treat.

Every bit of preground mystery meat is scraps/trimmings and expired,
contains lots of gristle.... the higher priced is better scraps and
trimmings is all, and contains a greater ratio of the better cuts of
the expired packaged meat. Very little gets thrown out at the meat
dept; first week it was a roast, second week it was rewrapped as
steaks, third week it's made into stew meat, fourth week it's added to
the scraps and made into premium preground mystery meat, fifth week
the expired premium is pressed to remove its blood and fresh blood is
mixed in before regrinding and made into three pound family packs on
sale at that buck and a half range... if the meat clerk hawked up a
lunger into the scraps and trimmings you will eat it with great relish
and go yum. Hey, the grinder is working, they are suited up with
plastic gloves and have no tissues anyway... you think they're gonna
expel their snot on their nice coats where everyone can see.. and you
think they're gona reach into the grinder hopper to yank out that
speedy cockroach, just more protein.

Sheldon

"Sheldon" > wrote in message
...
> "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
>>
>> Although Sheldon lives in the state of New York, he lives in the sticks,
>> so
>> he's not exposed to NY City prices. His supermarket's pretty average,
>> too.
>> If he's spending more than you are for food, it's because he chooses to,
>> not
>> because he's a prisoner of high prices.
>>
>> Here in Rochester, Wegmans sells several kinds of ground beef. The price
>> ranges from $1.79 to $3.99 per pound. So, both your price range and his
>> example are valid, assuming his store (Price Chopper) sells what they
>> consider to be a better grade worth four bucks a pound
>
>
> As usual JSB is talking out his ass.
>
> I spent most of my life living downstate so I know NYC food prices
> very well, better than you, better than most...


.....which bears absolutely no relationship to what you can buy NOW, in the
town where you live NOW.

> Excerpts:
>
> "The survey found that higher-calorie, energy-dense foods are the better
> bargain for cash-strapped shoppers. Energy-dense munchies cost on average
> $1.76 per 1,000 kcal, compared with $18.16 per 1,000 kcal for low-energy but
> nutritious foods.

Anyone with eyes could have "discovered" this fact 30 years ago, when
the largest proportion of obese children and adults were those at the
bottom of the economic rung. Pasta, bread and other forms of starches
and carbs are much cheaper than vegetables, fruit and good-quality
proteins.

N.

"Cshenk" > wrote in message
...
>
> Just because you do not know how to eat well for less than 100$ a week for
> one person, doesnt make that an average. Most of us are more savvy.
>

I would say that most of us can feed two people for less than 100$ a week.
He thinks it's some kind of brag to spend that much on groceries.

Sometimes we eat real cheap just because we like it.

Ms P

One time on Usenet, "JoeSpareBedroom" > said:
> "Sheldon" > wrote in message
> ...
> > "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
> >>
> >> Although Sheldon lives in the state of New York, he lives in the sticks,
> >> so
> >> he's not exposed to NY City prices. His supermarket's pretty average,
> >> too.
> >> If he's spending more than you are for food, it's because he chooses to,
> >> not
> >> because he's a prisoner of high prices.
> >>
> >> Here in Rochester, Wegmans sells several kinds of ground beef. The price
> >> ranges from $1.79 to $3.99 per pound. So, both your price range and his
> >> example are valid, assuming his store (Price Chopper) sells what they
> >> consider to be a better grade worth four bucks a pound
> >
> >
> > As usual JSB is talking out his ass.
> >
> > I spent most of my life living downstate so I know NYC food prices
> > very well, better than you, better than most...
>
>
> .....which bears absolutely no relationship to what you can buy NOW, in the
> town where you live NOW.

I'd be more interested in what Margaret has to say about the subject;
she actually lives there...

--
Jani in WA

On Dec 7, 2:56�pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
> "Sheldon" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
>
>
> > "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
>
> >> Although Sheldon lives in the state of New York, he lives in the sticks,
> >> so
> >> he's not exposed to NY City prices. His supermarket's pretty average,
> >> too.
> >> If he's spending more than you are for food, it's because he chooses to,
> >> not
> >> because he's a prisoner of high prices.
>
> >> Here in Rochester, Wegmans sells several kinds of ground beef. The price
> >> ranges from $1.79 to $3.99 per pound. So, both your price range and his
> >> example are valid, assuming his store (Price Chopper) sells what they
> >> consider to be a better grade worth four bucks a pound
>
> > As usual JSB is talking out his ass.
>
> > I spent most of my life living downstate so I know NYC food prices
> > very well, better than you, better than most...
>
> ....which bears absolutely no relationship to what you can buy NOW, in the
> town where you live NOW

The ****ing mind reader knows where I get all my food... why don't you
make another attack, LOSER... show the entire world what a ****ing
moron you are. I'm only 2 1/2 hours from NYC, I have friends and
relatives who visit often and they fill my shopping list with the best
foods NYC has to offer... Just last weekend I was brought among other
items three dozen bagels from Port Washington's Bagel Boss, too many,
had to freeze most, unfortunately, but even when frozen they are much
better than any I can get around the capital district. Soon as ski
season gets rolling I'll have guests from NYC most every weekend, I'll
have more fancy viands then I'll know what to do with... It's snowing
pretty heavy right now, I bet Windham will be open this weekend.

And pea brained JSB still hasn't figured out that anyone with access
to the internet can find out the prices at most any supermarket on the
planet, and at many other types of food emporiums. I even buy a lot
of food on line. I still read NY Newsday on line every day, and all
the NYC food ads are right there. JSB, you lose one more IQ point
(drop below 50) and they will incarcerate you in a high security
sanitarium for the mentally deficient... really, padded cell. straight
jacket, anal plug... you think they will tolerate all your shit like
you dump here... it ain't even funny how dumb you are, see me joking.

Sheldon

Sheldon wrote:

>> I've often read that the US spends much less on food compared to
>> percentage of income on the whole than many other countries.
>
> This is true, in fact many Americans pay nothing for food..
>
>> I believe this helps contribute to the obesity issues we're
>> experiencing.
>
> This is false, and ridiculous... then by your fercocktah theory we'd
> be able to tell people's wealth just by appearance, the more money
> they have the fatter.

I said "contributes" not the sole reason. Fast food is cheap, fattening
and available around the clock. Meat is cheap compared to other
countries and we eat a lot of it. All-You-Can-Stand buffets (the hog
trough) abound. The list could go on, but I think you can get the idea.

"Sheldon" > wrote in message
...
On Dec 7, 2:56?pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
> "Sheldon" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
>
>
> > "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
>
> >> Although Sheldon lives in the state of New York, he lives in the
> >> sticks,
> >> so
> >> he's not exposed to NY City prices. His supermarket's pretty average,
> >> too.
> >> If he's spending more than you are for food, it's because he chooses
> >> to,
> >> not
> >> because he's a prisoner of high prices.
>
> >> Here in Rochester, Wegmans sells several kinds of ground beef. The
> >> price
> >> ranges from $1.79 to $3.99 per pound. So, both your price range and his
> >> example are valid, assuming his store (Price Chopper) sells what they
> >> consider to be a better grade worth four bucks a pound
>
> > As usual JSB is talking out his ass.
>
> > I spent most of my life living downstate so I know NYC food prices
> > very well, better than you, better than most...
>
> ....which bears absolutely no relationship to what you can buy NOW, in the
> town where you live NOW

The ****ing mind reader knows where I get all my food... why don't you
make another attack, LOSER... show the entire world what a ****ing
moron you are. I'm only 2 1/2 hours from NYC, I have friends and
relatives who visit often and they fill my shopping list with the best
foods NYC has to offer... Just last weekend I was brought among other
items three dozen bagels from Port Washington's Bagel Boss, too many,
had to freeze most, unfortunately, but even when frozen they are much
better than any I can get around the capital district. Soon as ski
season gets rolling I'll have guests from NYC most every weekend, I'll
have more fancy viands then I'll know what to do with... It's snowing
pretty heavy right now, I bet Windham will be open this weekend.

And pea brained JSB still hasn't figured out that anyone with access
to the internet can find out the prices at most any supermarket on the
planet, and at many other types of food emporiums. I even buy a lot
of food on line. I still read NY Newsday on line every day, and all
the NYC food ads are right there. JSB, you lose one more IQ point
(drop below 50) and they will incarcerate you in a high security
sanitarium for the mentally deficient... really, padded cell. straight
jacket, anal plug... you think they will tolerate all your shit like
you dump here... it ain't even funny how dumb you are, see me joking.

Sheldon

+++++++++++++++++++++++++


Aren't you something.

Now, go find the nurse and tell her you're becoming unstable again. Time to
up your thorazine dosage.

"Little Malice" > wrote in message
...
> One time on Usenet, "JoeSpareBedroom" > said:
>> "Sheldon" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Although Sheldon lives in the state of New York, he lives in the
>> >> sticks,
>> >> so
>> >> he's not exposed to NY City prices. His supermarket's pretty average,
>> >> too.
>> >> If he's spending more than you are for food, it's because he chooses
>> >> to,
>> >> not
>> >> because he's a prisoner of high prices.
>> >>
>> >> Here in Rochester, Wegmans sells several kinds of ground beef. The
>> >> price
>> >> ranges from $1.79 to $3.99 per pound. So, both your price range and
>> >> his
>> >> example are valid, assuming his store (Price Chopper) sells what they
>> >> consider to be a better grade worth four bucks a pound
>> >
>> >
>> > As usual JSB is talking out his ass.
>> >
>> > I spent most of my life living downstate so I know NYC food prices
>> > very well, better than you, better than most...
>>
>>
>> .....which bears absolutely no relationship to what you can buy NOW, in
>> the
>> town where you live NOW.
>
> I'd be more interested in what Margaret has to say about the subject;
> she actually lives there...
>
> --
> Jani in WA

On Dec 7, 12:11 pm, Sheldon > wrote:
> "Nancy Young" wrote:
> > "FarmI" wrote
>
> > > The report says that the average American spends $7/day on food and that
> > > surely can't be right as it's a miniscule amount of money. I did a
> > > currency converson and that is about $7.97 in my currency and, if the two
> > > of us were eating meat for an evening meal, I'd spend at least $10 in my
> > > currency just on the meat component of the meal.
>
> > I wonder how they came up with that number. Do they add up
> > all grocery food sales/restaurant sales/roadside farm stand sales?
> > Factor in home grown food? Makes no sense. Having said that,
> > food in my house could be decent to very good for $14 a day, being
> > that there are 2 of us.
>
> You can eat "decent" at $14 for two but certainly not much more than
> bare essentials... there'd be little fresh produce, not much in way of
> beverages except plain tap water, no snacks to speak, certainly no
> alcoholic beverages, and you'd need to go real easy on the cheese,
> even Velveeta ain't cheap, not much desserts (store brand jello?),
> real skimpy on herbs and spices... I can go on. Sure, you can eat
> inexpensive meat cuts but even then there wouldn't be much money left
> over for accompaniments... and stews and soups every day get old fast,
> especilaly if made low cost POW style (very juicy). Even a pound of
> balogna costs like $5.... and then you need bread, mustard and maybe
> some cheese and lettuce... where's the pickle, slaw, and beer. Yes,
> you can subsist on $7 but portions will be small and uninteresting,
> pretty much hospital/prison food.
>
> The last I looked decent preground mystery meat from the stupidmarket
> cost $4/lb, by the time the fat is cooked off all you'll have is two
> servings.. and you still need to add about $4 more to make it a decent
> meal... and that's only one meal, what about the rest of the day.
>
> $14 a day feeds my six cats.
>
> $14 a day is my average food bill for just me... Holiday meals are
> probably the least expensive, turkey and ham is cheap. To be
> perfectly honest I can easily fix a chef's salad for just me and it
> will cost about $14... a measly can of decent sardines costs $3, and I
> will usually use two (they're small).... but if I use one I add a can
> of premium red salmon, costs $5... by the time I add all the produce,
> a bunch of olives, a can of sliced beets, a couple sliced eggs, maybe
> a fistful of walnuts, and some dressing I'm sure I got $14 on the
> plate. I eat a lot of tinned fish, it's very healthful but definitely
> not cheap... and I can't open just enough for me unless I want to try
> to eat around six cat noses in my plate.
>
> I spend a bit more than $100 a week on just food to feed just me,
> purrrty close to another $100 a week to feed my six cats.
> And I don't consider my usual diet very oppulent, it's mustly just
> ordinary foods, but I don't skimp on the accompaniments just so I can
> eat lobster and prime rib, in fact I probably haven't eaten lobster in
> more than 10 years, shrimp neither, it's not something I crave, in
> fact I think it's highly over rated, I'd much rather my sardines. But
> me and my guys like our steak, so two small porterhouse ($14 worth) is
> a dinner for us, and then there are veggies (cat's eat veggies too),
> and my guys drink water but I drink a few 2nis. And I don't always
> drink Crystal Palace... my booze bill is about $100 a week, and I
> really don't drink a lot, maybe two drinks a day... mostly a tall
> glass filled with ice, grapefruit juice, and a double shot of vodka...
> the grapefruit juice costs as much if not more than the vodka but
> juice is pasrt of the drink so itsprice counts, ice ain't free
> either. But I'll also splurge on good scotch, Champagne, and my
> favorite Ruffino dago red.
>
> I've no idea how yoose eat for $7/day.... must be a lot of pasta with
> two grape meata balles.
>
> Oranges cost a buck a piece, I just ate two as an appetizer for
> breakfast, supposed to eat "5 A Day", I eat more fresh produce than
> what's considered a serving (btw, 5 a day is the minimum), apples cost
> a buck a piece too, you're not gonna be eating much fresh produce on
> $7/day, even a small crummy head of iceberg costs $2. Not sure what
> else yet but I'm thinking my 1 quart bowl of raisin bran... need lots
> of room for milk, yoose know why... my cats polish off a can of evap
> first thing every morning. Dried cereal is expensive, milk ain't
> cheap anymore, even one banana costs 30 cents. A lot of people feed
> their pets crap foods, the cheapest brands they can find and no
> variety... a high quality diet costs a whole lot less than vet bills.
> Same with people too, eat cheap now pay big medical bills later.
>
> Yesterday I picked up a plain cheese pie from the local pizzaria, just
> happened to cost $13.95... $14 by my math. They make pizzas much
> smaller than the 18" they used to years ago, and now they're very
> stingy with the topping, this was 14", I finished it for lunch and
> wasn't even full... years ago 3 slices and I was busting. A 14" pie
> is actually about half the size of an 18" pie. When I was a kid the
> corner pizzeria made 20" pies, so loaded with real mozz you could
> barely handle a slice, and the entire pie cost 75 cents... then one
> slice cost 10 cents and was enough for lunch. But today's food prices
> are much different... back than an oversized hot corned beef on rye at
> the kosher deli cost 35 cents... a full meal on real linen soup to
> dessert with all the trimmings with impeccable service cost 35cents at
> the Chinese.
>
> I'm sorry, but unless you're in prison you can't eat a proper diet in
> the US on $7/day, no way, no how, anyone claims they can doesn't have
> the foggiest concept of a decent proper healthful diet, or they choose
> not to remember what all they consume. And food costs in the US are
> probably the lowest on the planet, but still, $7 barely buys a couple
> ham n' cheese sammiches... a friggin' can of Spam, 4 slices of rye, a
> few Kraft singles, mustard, pickle, slaw and a quart of milk costs
> about ten bucks, and that's a do it yerself at home lunch for two, and
> it sure ain't decent, more lurid. Anyone tells me on average they eat
> decent on $7 an entire day I say is a pinnochio nosed fibber, or
> weighs in at less than my six cats... but then your idea of decent
> ain't mine.
>
> Sheldon

I'm always amazed when you report the quantities that you eat,
Sheldon.
My breakfast is 1 ounce of cheerios, 8 ounces of milk, and a banana or
about 3 ounces of defrosted frozen raspberries.

Today, lunch was one flour tortilla (about 12" in diameter) with a
couple
of ounces of cheese melted onto it, a couple of tablespoons of salsa,
a tablespoon or so of sour cream, and 1 or 1.5 cups of shredded
iceberg lettuce (I'm out of romaine).

I'm not sure what dinner will be tonight, but last night it was two
cups of
torn romaine, a sliced carrot, six grape tomatoes, about an inch of
cucumber, dressed with 1/2 tsp balsamic vinegar in 1/2 tbsp olive oil;
about four ounces of skinless, boneless chicken breast dusted with
flour and sauteed in butter, with a pan sauce of beef broth and
lemon juice; and half a cup of rice.

I rarely eat dessert, and drink about one beer per month.

Often, one piece of pizza is sufficient if I've had salad (which
almost
always do). I probably eat for $7 per day quite frequently. But I
probably
weigh more than you and all your cats put together.

Yesterday, though, I spent $27 on lunch at an Asian-fusion restaurant.
It was delicious, but I couldn't afford that very often.

Cindy Hamilton

"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
news:8da88be2-9ce9-4b48-a75f-

> I rarely eat dessert, and drink about one beer per month.


That's really bad. :-)

Sheldon wrote:
> jmcquown" wrote:
>
>> examples you gave (which I snipped).
>
> Ain't snipping fun. LOL
>
>> I cannot fathom $4/lb for what you call pre-ground "mystery meat" -
>> ground chuck is $1.59/lb here.
>
> You braggin' or complainin'?
>
I'm certainly not complaining. You're the one complaining.

> You can't fathom $4/lb preground mystery meat (the best of the worst)
> is because you eat that $1.59/lb hog slop I wouldn't feed to a dog

You don't have a dog. And as I've said before, I can take a nice chuck
roast to the butcher counter and have them grind it for me, free of charge.
In fact, they'll do that with any cut I request.

> because it's lower quality than the cheapest canned pet food. The NY
> soup kitchens serve better than you eat to Bowery winos.

Once again you have no idea what you're talking about. You disparage "dego
red" and then in the same post say you drink it .

> got a J O B you could afford to eat better than those southern food
> stamp vittles

You're the one who puts southern food down, when southern food is nothing
more than exactly what you eat at a lesser cost.

Jill

On Dec 7, 3:42�pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
> "Sheldon" > wrote in message
>
> ...
> On Dec 7, 2:56?pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Sheldon" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > > "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
>
> > >> Although Sheldon lives in the state of New York, he lives in the
> > >> sticks,
> > >> so
> > >> he's not exposed to NY City prices. His supermarket's pretty average,
> > >> too.
> > >> If he's spending more than you are for food, it's because he chooses
> > >> to,
> > >> not
> > >> because he's a prisoner of high prices.
>
> > >> Here in Rochester, Wegmans sells several kinds of ground beef. The
> > >> price
> > >> ranges from $1.79 to $3.99 per pound. So, both your price range and his
> > >> example are valid, assuming his store (Price Chopper) sells what they
> > >> consider to be a better grade worth four bucks a pound
>
> > > As usual JSB is talking out his ass.
>
> > > I spent most of my life living downstate so I know NYC food prices
> > > very well, better than you, better than most...
>
> > ....which bears absolutely no relationship to what you can buy NOW, in the
> > town where you live NOW
>
> The ****ing mind reader knows where I get all my food... why don't you
> make another attack, LOSER... show the entire world what a ****ing
> moron you are. �I'm only 2 1/2 hours from NYC, I have friends and
> relatives who visit often and they fill my shopping list with the best
> foods NYC has to offer... Just last weekend I was brought among other
> items three dozen bagels from Port Washington's Bagel Boss, too many,
> had to freeze most, unfortunately, but even when frozen they are much
> better than any I can get around the capital district. �Soon as ski
> season gets rolling I'll have guests from NYC most every weekend, I'll
> have more fancy viands then I'll know what to do with... It's snowing
> pretty heavy right now, I bet Windham will be open this weekend.
>
> And pea brained JSB still hasn't figured out that anyone with access
> to the internet can find out the prices at most any supermarket on the
> planet, and at many other types of food emporiums. �I even buy a lot
> of food on line. �I still read NY Newsday on line every day, and all
> the NYC food ads are right there. �JSB, you lose one more IQ point
> (drop below 50) and they will incarcerate you in a high security
> sanitarium for the mentally deficient... really, padded cell. straight
> jacket, anal plug... you think they will tolerate all your shit like
> you dump here... it ain't even funny how dumb you are, see me joking.
>
> Sheldon
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> Aren't you something.

Loser.

On Dec 7, 4:20�pm, Cindy Hamilton
>
>�I probably eat for $7 per day quite frequently. �But I
> probably weigh more than you and all your cats put together.

Perhaps you need to learn how to cook with more imagination and choose
more healthful foods... but still it's very difficult to eat properly
on $7 a day as a steady diet. Sure you can fill your tank, $7 buys a
lot of starchy fatty foods but very little fresh produce and lean meats

"Cshenk" wrote:
>
> Every price you listed was HIGHLY inflated. �

Your opinion of yourself is what's HIGHLY inflated.

In case you didnt notice it,
> the folks oversease from us looked up our prices on simple web searches. �I
> am sure they can find the price of ground beef at my local food lion etc is
> far less nd if they look at BJ's even the 93% lean is less than 3$.

You functionally illterate *******.. where did I say I buy ground meat
at any price... I didn't... I grind my own, always. And on average I
pay $2-$3 a pound for the meat I grind.

Anyone who eats preground mystery meat doesn't eat well, just that
simple.

On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 13:20:54 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>I probably eat for $7 per day quite frequently

I eat for less than that, quite often. I have been averaging the
past few weeks, under $30/week. And I am not eating poorly at all. I
have been allotting myself $40/week and I am having money left over
each week. AND that has been allowing for an occasional treat from
Trader Joes.

I am always astounded at the prices that Sheldon quotes for groceries
in his area. A dollar for an apple? I just bought about 2 pounds of
Braeburn apples for $1/pound. Cauliflower has been on sale here for
$0.88/each. Broccoli is about $1/pound. I can get the pink Rio
grapefruits for 5/$1...I didn't get any this week, but I am
contemplating picking up some. Those things are great! Last week I
got 10 smaller navel oranges for $1 at one of the local produce
markets.

Mind you, I haven't been buying any meat lately, as I have a freezer
full of stuff I bought on sale over the last year. I did buy a huge
turkey over Thanksgiving, and that so far has provided me with great
turkey sandwiches, and turkey and root vegetable soup with noodles,
and coming up in the next week, it will get turned into gumbo. I did
buy some andouille sausage last week for it. I have green peppers for
it, which I got for about $0.89/pound last week at one of the local
Asian markets.

Christine

Christine wrote on Fri, 07 Dec 2007 15:01:38 -0700:

??>> I probably eat for $7 per day quite frequently

CD> I eat for less than that, quite often. I have been
CD> averaging the past few weeks, under $30/week. And I am not
CD> eating poorly at all. I have been allotting myself
CD> $40/week and I am having money left over each week. AND
CD> that has been allowing for an occasional treat from Trader
CD> Joes.

CD> I am always astounded at the prices that Sheldon quotes for
CD> groceries in his area. A dollar for an apple? I

Depends on the apple! Quite a lot can weigh a pound each. Some
varieties seem to have increased in size over the years which is
a pity since I think a bite of apple tastes best if it includes
some skin. Fujis are among the best tasting apples, IMHO, but
the stores seem to be selling monsters at the moment :-(


James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 22:09:05 GMT, "James Silverton"
> wrote:

>Depends on the apple! Quite a lot can weigh a pound each. Some
>varieties seem to have increased in size over the years which is
>a pity since I think a bite of apple tastes best if it includes
>some skin. Fujis are among the best tasting apples, IMHO, but
>the stores seem to be selling monsters at the moment :-(

These were just an average sized apple. I got several per pound.

Oh, and I some lovely pears for about $0.88/pound this week as well. I
am thinking of making those into pear sauce, to accompany the latkes I
am making sometime this weekend.

Christine

"Cshenk" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Sheldon" wrote
>
>>Perhaps you need to learn how to cook with more imagination and choose
>>more healthful foods... but still it's very difficult to eat properly
>>on $7 a day as a steady diet. Sure you can fill your tank, $7 buys a
>>lot of starchy fatty foods but very little fresh produce and lean meats
>
> You snipped the wrong text Sheldon and left that of another then replied
> to me.
>
> I do not eat unhealthy starchy foods nor 'junk'. You are the one who
> can't shop so thinks it takes 100$ a week for one person in the USA.
> Obviously you are wrong but eat prepared junk foods like TV dinners and
> such or you cant use that much money up in your area.
>
> I even looked up NY city where you do not live (but in a cheaper area 2.5
> hours away i think you said)and it isnt that much there either.
>
> Meantime, this little family of 3 who eats well for far less than you do
> as a 1 person, is munching on imported brie over stone crackers with genoa
> salami. Bosk pears at the side with drizzle of clover honey.
>
>


Hmm....let's see what's on sale near Sheldon's group home:

http://www.pricechopper.com/WeeklyAd/WeeklyAd_Store_S.las?-token.date=2007-12-07&-token.S=4A2T9R20D691d78P78329E03PknN6L5V945C9F|131 05|0712071715|||||

or

http://tinyurl.com/3xscuc

"Christine Dabney" > wrote

> On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 13:20:54 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
>>I probably eat for $7 per day quite frequently
>
> I eat for less than that, quite often. I have been averaging the
> past few weeks, under $30/week. And I am not eating poorly at all. I
> have been allotting myself $40/week and I am having money left over
> each week. AND that has been allowing for an occasional treat from
> Trader Joes.

A lot of the food I eat makes more than one meal. A pot of sauce
makes a number of meals, and some of it went into last night's
lasagna, and that lasagna will make at least 8 good sized portions.
I have leftover beef stew in the refrigerator, and I'm thawing a
chicken for sometime over the weekend. That chicken will be
dinner along with some vegetables, and will be chicken salad for
lunch after that.

A $10 slice of prime rib will be a meal for 2, no leftovers, but that's
a big meal and we won't eat much the rest of the day. Breakfast is
usually about a dollar's worth of yogurt and cranberries, or maybe
toast and eggs. To average out at spending $15 a day for 2 is
not a hard thing to do, at all. I'm not dedicated to spending a lot for
my food every day, even though I could if I wanted to. I am happy
that I can eat what I like, every day. And I do.

nancy

"Christine Dabney" > wrote in message
news
> I am always astounded at the prices that Sheldon quotes for groceries
> in his area. A dollar for an apple? I just bought about 2 pounds of
> Braeburn apples for $1/pound. Cauliflower has been on sale here for
> $0.88/each. Broccoli is about $1/pound. I can get the pink Rio
> grapefruits for 5/$1...I didn't get any this week, but I am
> contemplating picking up some. Those things are great! Last week I
> got 10 smaller navel oranges for $1 at one of the local produce
> markets.

> > Christine

In Winchester, VA:
I don't have any apples in the house now to see how much a 'regular' or
'normal' apple would way - depending on the type.
But apples here seem to start around $1.29 a lb. now.

Cauliflower - $3.49 ea

Broccoli 2 large stocks $2.99 for 2 stocks

Grapefruits (and oranges) $1 each


I don't dare go to Whole Foods and look at their prices, if these are the
prices in the sticks, so-to-speak.

Dee Dee

Christine wrote on Fri, 07 Dec 2007 15:14:48 -0700:

??>> Depends on the apple! Quite a lot can weigh a pound each.
??>> Some varieties seem to have increased in size over the
??>> years which is a pity since I think a bite of apple tastes
??>> best if it includes some skin. Fujis are among the best
??>> tasting apples, IMHO, but the stores seem to be selling
??>> monsters at the moment :-(

CD> These were just an average sized apple. I got several per
CD> pound.

CD> Oh, and I some lovely pears for about $0.88/pound this week
CD> as well. I am thinking of making those into pear sauce, to
CD> accompany the latkes I am making sometime this weekend.

Pears always seem a chancy thing to me. Unless you get them from
expensive places like Harry and David you can't buy them ready
to eat and they seem to go thro' the best point when I am
looking the other way. The only safe thing is to buy Seckel
pears which are delicious even when quite firm but they don't
seem to be cheap :-(


James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not