http://s199.photobucket.com/albums/a...ars%20Chicken/


If you haven't done a chook this way......... you hafta!!


I'd forgotten how juicy and tender the flesh comes out like. I've decided
we're having two of them for Christmas Day. That way I'll be able to get
some of the parts *I* want, and not have to come back to the table and see
a skeleton!!

5lt of Heiney, a 2kg chook, a multitude of baked potatos, a bucketload of
steamed fresh veges......... and the stomachs on legs *still* wanted
dessert!! (Which they knew was on the cards anyway!!)

So the double chocolate (dark and milk) mousse was sacrificed.

So now we open the reds that they brought :-)

On Dec 9, 6:37 am, PeterLucas > wrote:
> http://s199.photobucket.com/albums/a...ars%20Chicken/
>
> If you haven't done a chook this way......... you hafta!!
>
> I'd forgotten how juicy and tender the flesh comes out like. I've decided
> we're having two of them for Christmas Day. That way I'll be able to get
> some of the parts *I* want, and not have to come back to the table and see
> a skeleton!!
>
> 5lt of Heiney, a 2kg chook, a multitude of baked potatos, a bucketload of
> steamed fresh veges......... and the stomachs on legs *still* wanted
> dessert!! (Which they knew was on the cards anyway!!)
>
> So the double chocolate (dark and milk) mousse was sacrificed.
>
> So now we open the reds that they brought :-)

Now that looks like a real way to do a chicken. I'm not sure if we
can get the Heiniken keg. Can I substitute a local microbrewery
without affecting the taste of the chicken?
John Kane, Kingston ON Canada

John Kane > wrote in
:

> On Dec 9, 6:37 am, PeterLucas > wrote:
>> http://s199.photobucket.com/albums/a..._2007/Beggars%
20Chicken
>> /
>>
>> If you haven't done a chook this way......... you hafta!!
>>
>> I'd forgotten how juicy and tender the flesh comes out like. I've
>> decided we're having two of them for Christmas Day. That way I'll be
>> able to get some of the parts *I* want, and not have to come back to
>> the table and see a skeleton!!
>>
>> 5lt of Heiney, a 2kg chook, a multitude of baked potatos, a
>> bucketload of steamed fresh veges......... and the stomachs on legs
>> *still* wanted dessert!! (Which they knew was on the cards anyway!!)
>>
>> So the double chocolate (dark and milk) mousse was sacrificed.
>>
>> So now we open the reds that they brought :-)
>
> Now that looks like a real way to do a chicken. I'm not sure if we
> can get the Heiniken keg. Can I substitute a local microbrewery
> without affecting the taste of the chicken?
> John Kane, Kingston ON Canada
>



Just about any old beer will do, methinks :-)



--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


Wars begin where you will...
but they do not end where you please.

Machiavelli

koko wrote in news
> On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 11:37:14 +0000 (UTC), PeterLucas >
> wrote:
>
>>http://s199.photobucket.com/albums/a..._2007/Beggars%
20Chicken/
>>
>>
>>If you haven't done a chook this way......... you hafta!!
>>
>>
>>I'd forgotten how juicy and tender the flesh comes out like. I've
>>decided we're having two of them for Christmas Day. That way I'll be
>>able to get some of the parts *I* want, and not have to come back to
>>the table and see a skeleton!!
>>
>>5lt of Heiney, a 2kg chook, a multitude of baked potatos, a bucketload
>>of steamed fresh veges......... and the stomachs on legs *still*
>>wanted dessert!! (Which they knew was on the cards anyway!!)
>>
>>So the double chocolate (dark and milk) mousse was sacrificed.
>>
>>So now we open the reds that they brought :-)
>>
>>
> Nice series Peter. Looks done to perfection.
>
> Thanks for posting.
>


Thanks :-)

Beggars Chicken is going to be a definite for Christmas Day.



--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


Wars begin where you will...
but they do not end where you please.

Machiavelli

One time on Usenet, PeterLucas > said:
> http://s199.photobucket.com/albums/a...ars%20Chicken/
>
>
> If you haven't done a chook this way......... you hafta!!
>
>
> I'd forgotten how juicy and tender the flesh comes out like. I've decided
> we're having two of them for Christmas Day. That way I'll be able to get
> some of the parts *I* want, and not have to come back to the table and see
> a skeleton!!

DS & I enjoyed your photos, but we couldn't figure out why there was
paper between the biscuit crust and the chicken. Then we figured out
the story behind Beggar's Chicken and it made sense. :-)

> 5lt of Heiney, a 2kg chook, a multitude of baked potatos, a bucketload of
> steamed fresh veges......... and the stomachs on legs *still* wanted
> dessert!! (Which they knew was on the cards anyway!!)
>
> So the double chocolate (dark and milk) mousse was sacrificed.

Oh, yum!

> So now we open the reds that they brought :-)

That must mean something different in Australia than it does in the
U.S. -- wine, perhaps..?

--
Jani in WA

(Little Malice) wrote in
:

> One time on Usenet, PeterLucas > said:
>> http://s199.photobucket.com/albums/a..._2007/Beggars%
20Chicken
>> /
>>
>>
>> If you haven't done a chook this way......... you hafta!!
>>
>>
>> I'd forgotten how juicy and tender the flesh comes out like. I've
>> decided we're having two of them for Christmas Day. That way I'll be
>> able to get some of the parts *I* want, and not have to come back to
>> the table and see a skeleton!!
>
> DS & I enjoyed your photos, but we couldn't figure out why there was
> paper between the biscuit crust and the chicken. Then we figured out
> the story behind Beggar's Chicken and it made sense. :-)



If you look at the captions, it says use Baking paper if you don't have
Lotus leaves on hand.

My local Chinese place doesn't stock Lotus leaves or Lotus root (as
yet!!), but as soon as it does......... :-)


Back before I discovered the delights of Baking Paper, I would have used
aluminium foil.


(From the website.........)

Beggar’s chicken is said to be a thief’s delicacy. According to Asian
folklore, the beggar stole a chicken from a feudal lord. To stop the
cooking smells attracting attention, the beggar first wrapped the bird
in a lotus leaf and mud from the lotus pond. Fact or fiction, this is
still a legendary dish for your dinner table.



>
>> 5lt of Heiney, a 2kg chook, a multitude of baked potatos, a
>> bucketload of steamed fresh veges......... and the stomachs on legs
>> *still* wanted dessert!! (Which they knew was on the cards anyway!!)
>>
>> So the double chocolate (dark and milk) mousse was sacrificed.
>
> Oh, yum!


Stupid me........ now the SO likes *that* as well :-(



>
>> So now we open the reds that they brought :-)
>
> That must mean something different in Australia than it does in the
> U.S. -- wine, perhaps..?
>



Reds here mean 'bottles of red wine'.

What does it mean over there?




--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


Wars begin where you will...
but they do not end where you please.

Machiavelli

In article > , PeterLucas > wrote:
(Little Malice) wrote in
[snip]
>>> So now we open the reds that they brought :-)
>>
>> That must mean something different in Australia than it does in the
>> U.S. -- wine, perhaps..?
>
>Reds here mean 'bottles of red wine'.
>
>What does it mean over there?

Nasty surprises under their beds, perhaps? :-)

Cheers, Phred.

--
LID

(Little Malice) wrote in
:

> One time on Usenet, PeterLucas > said:
>> http://s199.photobucket.com/albums/a..._2007/Beggars%
20Chicken
>> /
>>
>>
>> If you haven't done a chook this way......... you hafta!!
>>
>>
>> I'd forgotten how juicy and tender the flesh comes out like. I've
>> decided we're having two of them for Christmas Day. That way I'll be
>> able to get some of the parts *I* want, and not have to come back to
>> the table and see a skeleton!!
>
> DS & I enjoyed your photos, but we couldn't figure out why there was
> paper between the biscuit crust and the chicken.



Sorry..... missed this in the first reply.


It's *not* a biscuit crust.

It's a salt dough.


Flour+water+salt = dough....... just like a bread dough, but no yeast.


There's no biscuit in it anywhere.


--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


Wars begin where you will...
but they do not end where you please.

Machiavelli

(Phred) wrote in
:

> In article > ,
> PeterLucas > wrote:
(Little Malice) wrote in
> [snip]
>>>> So now we open the reds that they brought :-)
>>>
>>> That must mean something different in Australia than it does in the
>>> U.S. -- wine, perhaps..?
>>
>>Reds here mean 'bottles of red wine'.
>>
>>What does it mean over there?
>
> Nasty surprises under their beds, perhaps? :-)
>




Like 'Better dead than red'?



--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


Wars begin where you will...
but they do not end where you please.

Machiavelli

In article > , PeterLucas > wrote:
(Phred) wrote in
:
>
>> In article > ,
>> PeterLucas > wrote:
(Little Malice) wrote in
>> [snip]
>>>>> So now we open the reds that they brought :-)
>>>>
>>>> That must mean something different in Australia than it does in the
>>>> U.S. -- wine, perhaps..?
>>>
>>>Reds here mean 'bottles of red wine'.
>>>
>>>What does it mean over there?
>>
>> Nasty surprises under their beds, perhaps? :-)
>
>Like 'Better dead than red'?

Yep. As the silver bodgie said (IIRC): "But you can't hide your money
under the bed; that's where the commos are."

Cheers, Phred.

--
LID

One time on Usenet, PeterLucas > said:
> (Little Malice) wrote in
> :
>
> > One time on Usenet, PeterLucas > said:
> >> http://s199.photobucket.com/albums/a..._2007/Beggars%
> 20Chicken
> >> /
> >>
> >>
> >> If you haven't done a chook this way......... you hafta!!
> >>
> >>
> >> I'd forgotten how juicy and tender the flesh comes out like. I've
> >> decided we're having two of them for Christmas Day. That way I'll be
> >> able to get some of the parts *I* want, and not have to come back to
> >> the table and see a skeleton!!
> >
> > DS & I enjoyed your photos, but we couldn't figure out why there was
> > paper between the biscuit crust and the chicken. Then we figured out
> > the story behind Beggar's Chicken and it made sense. :-)
>
>
>
> If you look at the captions, it says use Baking paper if you don't have
> Lotus leaves on hand.
>
> My local Chinese place doesn't stock Lotus leaves or Lotus root (as
> yet!!), but as soon as it does......... :-)
>
>
> Back before I discovered the delights of Baking Paper, I would have used
> aluminium foil.
>
>
> (From the website.........)
>
> Beggar’s chicken is said to be a thief’s delicacy. According to Asian
> folklore, the beggar stole a chicken from a feudal lord. To stop the
> cooking smells attracting attention, the beggar first wrapped the bird
> in a lotus leaf and mud from the lotus pond. Fact or fiction, this is
> still a legendary dish for your dinner table.

Yeah, this was the part we read. :-)

> >> 5lt of Heiney, a 2kg chook, a multitude of baked potatos, a
> >> bucketload of steamed fresh veges......... and the stomachs on legs
> >> *still* wanted dessert!! (Which they knew was on the cards anyway!!)
> >>
> >> So the double chocolate (dark and milk) mousse was sacrificed.
> >
> > Oh, yum!
>
>
> Stupid me........ now the SO likes *that* as well :-(

Heh!

> >> So now we open the reds that they brought :-)
> >
> > That must mean something different in Australia than it does in the
> > U.S. -- wine, perhaps..?
> >
>
>
>
> Reds here mean 'bottles of red wine'.
>
> What does it mean over there?

Maybe I'm just flashing on the 70's, but I think Seconal:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reds

Scroll down a bit...


--
Jani in WA

One time on Usenet, PeterLucas > said:
> (Little Malice) wrote in
> :
>
> > One time on Usenet, PeterLucas > said:
> >> http://s199.photobucket.com/albums/a..._2007/Beggars%
> 20Chicken
> >> /
> >>
> >>
> >> If you haven't done a chook this way......... you hafta!!
> >>
> >>
> >> I'd forgotten how juicy and tender the flesh comes out like. I've
> >> decided we're having two of them for Christmas Day. That way I'll be
> >> able to get some of the parts *I* want, and not have to come back to
> >> the table and see a skeleton!!
> >
> > DS & I enjoyed your photos, but we couldn't figure out why there was
> > paper between the biscuit crust and the chicken.
>
>
>
> Sorry..... missed this in the first reply.
>
>
> It's *not* a biscuit crust.
>
> It's a salt dough.
>
>
> Flour+water+salt = dough....... just like a bread dough, but no yeast.
>
>
> There's no biscuit in it anywhere.

Yes dear, but at first glance it looked like a biscuit...

--
Jani in WA

(Little Malice) wrote in
:


>
>> >> So now we open the reds that they brought :-)
>> >
>> > That must mean something different in Australia than it does in the
>> > U.S. -- wine, perhaps..?
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> Reds here mean 'bottles of red wine'.
>>
>> What does it mean over there?
>
> Maybe I'm just flashing on the 70's, but I think Seconal:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reds
>
> Scroll down a bit...
>
\


Now we know what *you* were doing in the 60's and 70's!!!



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secobarbital


Looks like it killed a lot of 'famous' people.


My red is *definitely* made of grape juice, nothing more :-)




--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


Wars begin where you will...
but they do not end where you please.

Machiavelli

(Little Malice) wrote in news:fjk8i3$6s0e6_008
@news.avvanta.com:

> One time on Usenet, PeterLucas > said:
>> (Little Malice) wrote in
>> :
>>
>> > One time on Usenet, PeterLucas > said:
>> >> http://s199.photobucket.com/albums/a..._2007/Beggars%
>> 20Chicken
>> >> /
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> If you haven't done a chook this way......... you hafta!!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I'd forgotten how juicy and tender the flesh comes out like. I've
>> >> decided we're having two of them for Christmas Day. That way I'll
be
>> >> able to get some of the parts *I* want, and not have to come back
to
>> >> the table and see a skeleton!!
>> >
>> > DS & I enjoyed your photos, but we couldn't figure out why there
was
>> > paper between the biscuit crust and the chicken.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sorry..... missed this in the first reply.
>>
>>
>> It's *not* a biscuit crust.
>>
>> It's a salt dough.
>>
>>
>> Flour+water+salt = dough....... just like a bread dough, but no
yeast.
>>
>>
>> There's no biscuit in it anywhere.
>
> Yes dear, but at first glance it looked like a biscuit...
>



LOL!! i could start the whole biscuit V dough/cracker thing...... but I
won't.

Here, have a biscuit.......... ;-)


http://www.arnotts.com.au/products/TimTam.aspx



--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


Wars begin where you will...
but they do not end where you please.

Machiavelli

One time on Usenet, PeterLucas > said:
> (Little Malice) wrote in
> :

> >> >> So now we open the reds that they brought :-)
> >> >
> >> > That must mean something different in Australia than it does in the
> >> > U.S. -- wine, perhaps..?

> >> Reds here mean 'bottles of red wine'.
> >>
> >> What does it mean over there?
> >
> > Maybe I'm just flashing on the 70's, but I think Seconal:
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reds
> >
> > Scroll down a bit...

> Now we know what *you* were doing in the 60's and 70's!!!

Heh, not me, pal. I wasn't born until the mid-60's. :-)

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secobarbital
>
>
> Looks like it killed a lot of 'famous' people.
>
>
> My red is *definitely* made of grape juice, nothing more :-)

I sort of figured, but I had to ask...

--
Jani in WA

One time on Usenet, PeterLucas > said:
> (Little Malice) wrote in news:fjk8i3$6s0e6_008
> @news.avvanta.com:
>
> > One time on Usenet, PeterLucas > said:
> >> (Little Malice) wrote in
> >> :
> >>
> >> > One time on Usenet, PeterLucas > said:
> >> >> http://s199.photobucket.com/albums/a..._2007/Beggars%
> >> 20Chicken
> >> >> /
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> If you haven't done a chook this way......... you hafta!!
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> I'd forgotten how juicy and tender the flesh comes out like. I've
> >> >> decided we're having two of them for Christmas Day. That way I'll
> be
> >> >> able to get some of the parts *I* want, and not have to come back
> to
> >> >> the table and see a skeleton!!
> >> >
> >> > DS & I enjoyed your photos, but we couldn't figure out why there
> was
> >> > paper between the biscuit crust and the chicken.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Sorry..... missed this in the first reply.
> >>
> >>
> >> It's *not* a biscuit crust.
> >>
> >> It's a salt dough.
> >>
> >>
> >> Flour+water+salt = dough....... just like a bread dough, but no
> yeast.
> >>
> >>
> >> There's no biscuit in it anywhere.
> >
> > Yes dear, but at first glance it looked like a biscuit...
> >
>
>
>
> LOL!! i could start the whole biscuit V dough/cracker thing...... but I
> won't.
>
> Here, have a biscuit.......... ;-)

Sorry, sorry -- I forget I'm talking to an Aussie! No accents on
Usenet.

> http://www.arnotts.com.au/products/TimTam.aspx

I bought some of those once, via the Web. They're wonderful! But too
expensive once you pay for shipping to the U.S...

--
Jani in WA

(Little Malice) wrote in news:fjmagf$80v4_006
@news.avvanta.com:


>
>> Now we know what *you* were doing in the 60's and 70's!!!
>
> Heh, not me, pal. I wasn't born until the mid-60's. :-)





Ahhhhhhhhh, a young pup :-)




>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secobarbital
>>
>>
>> Looks like it killed a lot of 'famous' people.
>>
>>
>> My red is *definitely* made of grape juice, nothing more :-)
>
> I sort of figured, but I had to ask...
>



I used to love eating grapes when I was a kid.

Had a 'toe-dip' into wines in the 70's (when I was trying to impress the
lady I was with)...... and went full blown in '93 with the Wynns
Coonawarra Hermitage.

Haven't looked back since :-)




--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


Wars begin where you will...
but they do not end where you please.

Machiavelli

(Little Malice) wrote in news:fjmalr$80v4_008
@news.avvanta.com:


>>
>> LOL!! i could start the whole biscuit V dough/cracker thing...... but
I
>> won't.
>>
>> Here, have a biscuit.......... ;-)
>
> Sorry, sorry -- I forget I'm talking to an Aussie! No accents on
> Usenet.



Onya ya wombat!!!! ;-P



>
>> http://www.arnotts.com.au/products/TimTam.aspx
>
> I bought some of those once, via the Web. They're wonderful! But too
> expensive once you pay for shipping to the U.S...
>


Welcome to Tim Tam heaven........... :-)


http://www.simplyoz.com/products/aus...cuits/tim_tams


http://www.about-australia-shop.com/timtams.htm



A little TimTam trick.......... get your favourite coffee (or even a
glass of some *really* good Muscat), nibble both ends off the TT and
dunk one end in the liquid and suck up said liquid through the
TimTam.... *YUM*!!!!!!!!!!


TimTam straw :-)



--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


Wars begin where you will...
but they do not end where you please.

Machiavelli

PeterLucas > wrote in
0.25:

> (Little Malice) wrote in news:fjmalr$80v4_
008
> @news.avvanta.com:
>
>
>>>
>>> LOL!! i could start the whole biscuit V dough/cracker thing......
but
> I
>>> won't.
>>>
>>> Here, have a biscuit.......... ;-)
>>
>> Sorry, sorry -- I forget I'm talking to an Aussie! No accents on
>> Usenet.
>
>
>
> Onya ya wombat!!!! ;-P
>
>
>
>>
>>> http://www.arnotts.com.au/products/TimTam.aspx
>>
>> I bought some of those once, via the Web. They're wonderful! But too
>> expensive once you pay for shipping to the U.S...
>>
>
>
> Welcome to Tim Tam heaven........... :-)
>
>
> http://www.simplyoz.com/products/aus...cuits/tim_tams
>
>
> http://www.about-australia-shop.com/timtams.htm
>
>
>
> A little TimTam trick.......... get your favourite coffee (or even a
> glass of some *really* good Muscat), nibble both ends off the TT and
> dunk one end in the liquid and suck up said liquid through the
> TimTam.... *YUM*!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
> TimTam straw :-)
>
>
>




--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


Wars begin where you will...
but they do not end where you please.

Machiavelli

One time on Usenet, PeterLucas > said:
> (Little Malice) wrote in news:fjmagf$80v4_006
> @news.avvanta.com:

> >> Now we know what *you* were doing in the 60's and 70's!!!
> >
> > Heh, not me, pal. I wasn't born until the mid-60's. :-)

> Ahhhhhhhhh, a young pup :-)

Heh, if you say so. DS is only 10, so he thinks I'm old. ;-)

> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secobarbital
> >>
> >>
> >> Looks like it killed a lot of 'famous' people.
> >>
> >>
> >> My red is *definitely* made of grape juice, nothing more :-)
> >
> > I sort of figured, but I had to ask...
> >
>
>
>
> I used to love eating grapes when I was a kid.
>
> Had a 'toe-dip' into wines in the 70's (when I was trying to impress the
> lady I was with)...... and went full blown in '93 with the Wynns
> Coonawarra Hermitage.
>
> Haven't looked back since :-)

I just don't care for wine. Both of my folks did (mom) and still do
(dad), but I just can't get into it. I tend to drink water and tea...

--
Jani in WA

One time on Usenet, PeterLucas > said:
> PeterLucas > wrote in
> 0.25:
>
> > (Little Malice) wrote in news:fjmalr$80v4_
> 008
> > @news.avvanta.com:
> >
> >
> >>>
> >>> LOL!! i could start the whole biscuit V dough/cracker thing......
> but
> > I
> >>> won't.
> >>>
> >>> Here, have a biscuit.......... ;-)
> >>
> >> Sorry, sorry -- I forget I'm talking to an Aussie! No accents on
> >> Usenet.
> >
> >
> >
> > Onya ya wombat!!!! ;-P
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >>> http://www.arnotts.com.au/products/TimTam.aspx
> >>
> >> I bought some of those once, via the Web. They're wonderful! But too
> >> expensive once you pay for shipping to the U.S...
> >>
> >
> >
> > Welcome to Tim Tam heaven........... :-)
> >
> >
> > http://www.simplyoz.com/products/aus...cuits/tim_tams
> >
> >
> > http://www.about-australia-shop.com/timtams.htm
> >
> >
> >
> > A little TimTam trick.......... get your favourite coffee (or even a
> > glass of some *really* good Muscat), nibble both ends off the TT and
> > dunk one end in the liquid and suck up said liquid through the
> > TimTam.... *YUM*!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> >
> > TimTam straw :-)

Thanks for the links, I may have to indulge again... :-)

--
Jani in WA

On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:31:27 GMT, (Little
Malice) wrote:

>One time on Usenet, PeterLucas > said:
>> (Little Malice) wrote in
>> :

snip to my lou
>
>> Now we know what *you* were doing in the 60's and 70's!!!
>
>Heh, not me, pal. I wasn't born until the mid-60's. :-)
>

Oh crap. Now I really feel old ;-(

koko
---
http://www.kokoscorner.typepad.com
updated 11/15

"There is no love more sincere than the love of food"
George Bernard Shaw

On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:57:12 -0800, koko wrote:


>Oh crap. Now I really feel old ;-(
>
>koko

You will never be old.. Especially not if you party like only you can
party!

Christine

koko wrote in :

> On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:31:27 GMT, (Little
> Malice) wrote:
>
>>One time on Usenet, PeterLucas > said:
>>> (Little Malice) wrote in
>>> :
>
> snip to my lou
>>
>>> Now we know what *you* were doing in the 60's and 70's!!!
>>
>>Heh, not me, pal. I wasn't born until the mid-60's. :-)
>>
>
> Oh crap. Now I really feel old ;-(
>


You're only as old as the men you feel ;-P



--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia


Wars begin where you will...
but they do not end where you please.

Machiavelli