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Actually, I'm just looking for a source for boysenberries. The DH
loves boysenberry pie, but I cannot find them at any time of the year
at any market that has seen me darken their doorway in Orange County
CA. LA County or San Diego foodies have any sources? Have
Boysenberries Will Travel. TIA.

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Oh pshaw, on Wed 12 Dec 2007 09:14:19p, Terry Pulliam Burd meant to say...

> Actually, I'm just looking for a source for boysenberries. The DH
> loves boysenberry pie, but I cannot find them at any time of the year
> at any market that has seen me darken their doorway in Orange County
> CA. LA County or San Diego foodies have any sources? Have
> Boysenberries Will Travel. TIA.


Terry, I can remember a time when Knott's Berry Farm still sold
boysenberries by the little thin wooden cartons. I don't want to say how
long ago that was! :-)

What I wish I could find, but probably never will, are fresh red currants
and fresh gooseberries.


> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
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> waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner."
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> -- Duncan Hines
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> To reply, replace "meatloaf" with "cox"
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On Dec 12, 8:14 pm, Terry Pulliam Burd > wrote:
> Actually, I'm just looking for a source for boysenberries. The DH
> loves boysenberry pie, but I cannot find them at any time of the year
> at any market that has seen me darken their doorway in Orange County
> CA. LA County or San Diego foodies have any sources? Have
> Boysenberries Will Travel. TIA.
>

In season, which I think is around early June, maybe late May, they
bring them to the various farmers' markets that are all around SoCal.
Out of season, it's jam and preserves and frozen, as far as I
know. -aem
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Young girls picked them, every one.


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On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 04:21:02 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
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>What I wish I could find, but probably never will, are fresh red currants


Oh, yes! I want currants too and I want to find them inexpensive
enough to make a pie. I want *one* more currant pie (preferably more
than one color, like red and white) before I leave this planet.


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Oh pshaw, on Wed 12 Dec 2007 11:21:50p, meant to say...

> On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 04:21:02 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
>>What I wish I could find, but probably never will, are fresh red currants

>
> Oh, yes! I want currants too and I want to find them inexpensive
> enough to make a pie. I want *one* more currant pie (preferably more
> than one color, like red and white) before I leave this planet.
>
>


We share the same desire, although I'd take all red currants.

When I was growing up, we had two gigantic red currant bushes in the back
yard that were so productive we always had more than we could use. Mom
made jelly, I made conserve, pie, kuchen, and a sauce to eat in place of
cranberry sauce for the holidays. How I miss those bushes.

I wuold also love to have a fresh gooseberry pie, at least one last time.
:-) Nothing tastes like that.

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On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:18:50 -0800, Blinky the Shark
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>
>Young girls picked them, every one.


HEY! Don't try to trick me.... they picked flowers, not berries.
LOLOL!

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On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 06:26:15 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>We share the same desire, although I'd take all red currants.
>

Kewl

>When I was growing up, we had two gigantic red currant bushes in the back
>yard that were so productive we always had more than we could use. Mom
>made jelly, I made conserve, pie, kuchen, and a sauce to eat in place of
>cranberry sauce for the holidays. How I miss those bushes.


Me too. Grandpa had all three and they were gigantic... 6 or 8 feet
around, so they had more than enough for whatever purposes they wanted
them for. My memories are built around pies made of red and white
currants. I'm sure I would have been satisfied with only one color.

>
>I wuold also love to have a fresh gooseberry pie, at least one last time.
>:-) Nothing tastes like that.


Gooseberry - meaning "kiwi"? If not that, I have no idea what you
mean. TIA


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Oh pshaw, on Wed 12 Dec 2007 11:58:00p, meant to say...

> On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 06:26:15 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
>>We share the same desire, although I'd take all red currants.
>>

> Kewl
>
>>When I was growing up, we had two gigantic red currant bushes in the back
>>yard that were so productive we always had more than we could use. Mom
>>made jelly, I made conserve, pie, kuchen, and a sauce to eat in place of
>>cranberry sauce for the holidays. How I miss those bushes.

>
> Me too. Grandpa had all three and they were gigantic... 6 or 8 feet
> around, so they had more than enough for whatever purposes they wanted
> them for. My memories are built around pies made of red and white
> currants. I'm sure I would have been satisfied with only one color.
>
>>
>>I wuold also love to have a fresh gooseberry pie, at least one last time.
>>:-) Nothing tastes like that.

>
> Gooseberry - meaning "kiwi"? If not that, I have no idea what you
> mean. TIA


No, not at all like kiwi. Like these...

http://tinyurl.com/2pjnzm



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On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 07:03:19 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>Oh pshaw, on Wed 12 Dec 2007 11:58:00p, meant to say...
>
>> On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 06:26:15 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>We share the same desire, although I'd take all red currants.
>>>

>> Kewl
>>
>>>When I was growing up, we had two gigantic red currant bushes in the back
>>>yard that were so productive we always had more than we could use. Mom
>>>made jelly, I made conserve, pie, kuchen, and a sauce to eat in place of
>>>cranberry sauce for the holidays. How I miss those bushes.

>>
>> Me too. Grandpa had all three and they were gigantic... 6 or 8 feet
>> around, so they had more than enough for whatever purposes they wanted
>> them for. My memories are built around pies made of red and white
>> currants. I'm sure I would have been satisfied with only one color.
>>
>>>
>>>I wuold also love to have a fresh gooseberry pie, at least one last time.
>>>:-) Nothing tastes like that.

>>
>> Gooseberry - meaning "kiwi"? If not that, I have no idea what you
>> mean. TIA

>
>No, not at all like kiwi. Like these...
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2pjnzm


I think I've seen something like that... is the outside a husk? I'm
wondering if I've actually eaten one and if I did, it was very limited
- one or two. I think they are scarcer than currants. At least I
know currants are sold somewhere in the US. "Gooseberries".... no
clue.

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sf wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 07:03:19 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>>>>
>>>> I wuold also love to have a fresh gooseberry pie, at least one
>>>> last time. :-) Nothing tastes like that.
>>>
>>> Gooseberry - meaning "kiwi"? If not that, I have no idea what you
>>> mean. TIA

>>
>> No, not at all like kiwi. Like these...
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/2pjnzm

>
> I think I've seen something like that... is the outside a husk? I'm
> wondering if I've actually eaten one and if I did, it was very limited
> - one or two. I think they are scarcer than currants. At least I
> know currants are sold somewhere in the US. "Gooseberries".... no
> clue.


Ah, gooseberry pie, or stewed gooseberries and custard sauce. What I
wouldn't give to see a gooseberry without going back to the UK. All
little kiddies in the UK would say (as did I), "Where did I come from,
Mummy?" "Why, we found you under a gooseberry bush!".

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Wayne Boatwright wrote:
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>>> I wuold also love to have a fresh gooseberry pie, at least one last
>>> time. :-) Nothing tastes like that.

>>

I'm curious, Wayne - when did you have gooseberries? If you found them
in the US, I'll waterboard you until I find out where!

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Oh pshaw, on Thu 13 Dec 2007 12:43:06a, meant to say...

> I think I've seen something like that... is the outside a husk? I'm


No, those are most likely "ground cherries"

http://www.culinate.com/hunk/19380

They make delicious jam or preserves. The flavor reminds me of fig jam.

> wondering if I've actually eaten one and if I did, it was very limited
> - one or two. I think they are scarcer than currants. At least I
> know currants are sold somewhere in the US. "Gooseberries".... no
> clue.
>


The type of gooseberries I'm referring to are very common in the UK. I
have seen them grown in the US, but not usually commercially. The last
ones I found for sale were in Kentucky back in 1990. I bought as many as I
could take home to Cleveland and made pies!

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Oh pshaw, on Thu 13 Dec 2007 08:55:57a, limey meant to say...

> sf wrote:
>> On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 07:03:19 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>>>>>
>>>>> I wuold also love to have a fresh gooseberry pie, at least one last
>>>>> time. :-) Nothing tastes like that.
>>>>
>>>> Gooseberry - meaning "kiwi"? If not that, I have no idea what you
>>>> mean. TIA
>>>
>>> No, not at all like kiwi. Like these...
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/2pjnzm

>>
>> I think I've seen something like that... is the outside a husk? I'm
>> wondering if I've actually eaten one and if I did, it was very limited
>> - one or two. I think they are scarcer than currants. At least I
>> know currants are sold somewhere in the US. "Gooseberries".... no
>> clue.

>
> Ah, gooseberry pie, or stewed gooseberries and custard sauce. What I
> wouldn't give to see a gooseberry without going back to the UK. All
> little kiddies in the UK would say (as did I), "Where did I come from,
> Mummy?" "Why, we found you under a gooseberry bush!".
>
> Dora
>
>


Cute! <smile>

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Oh pshaw, on Thu 13 Dec 2007 08:57:20a, limey meant to say...

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I wuold also love to have a fresh gooseberry pie, at least one last
>>>> time. :-) Nothing tastes like that.
>>>

> I'm curious, Wayne - when did you have gooseberries? If you found them
> in the US, I'll waterboard you until I find out where!
>
> Dora
>
>


At a farmer's market in Louisville, Ky. They were beautiful, ranging from
pale green to rosey pink.

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>> sf wrote:
>>> On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 07:03:19 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wuold also love to have a fresh gooseberry pie, at least one
>>>>>> last time. :-) Nothing tastes like that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gooseberry - meaning "kiwi"? If not that, I have no idea what you
>>>>> mean. TIA
>>>>
>>>> No, not at all like kiwi. Like these...
>>>>
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/2pjnzm
>>>
>>> I think I've seen something like that... is the outside a husk? I'm
>>> wondering if I've actually eaten one and if I did, it was very
>>> limited - one or two. I think they are scarcer than currants. At
>>> least I know currants are sold somewhere in the US.
>>> "Gooseberries".... no clue.

>
>> Ah, gooseberry pie, or stewed gooseberries and custard sauce.

>
> Have you tasted gooseberry fool? Creamy-acid palest green,
> delectable.
>
> Janet.


Yes, Janet - but gooseberries are virtually unobtainable here in the US
unless you're lucky enough to live near a farm which grows them. I've
never seen them shipped to stores. I really miss them.

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On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:41:26 -0800, sf wrote:

>On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:18:50 -0800, Blinky the Shark
> wrote:
>
>>
>>Young girls picked them, every one.

>
>HEY! Don't try to trick me.... they picked flowers, not berries.
>LOLOL!


the picked berries first, before they went into show business with the
flowers.

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Wayne Boatwright schrieb :
> Oh pshaw, on Thu 13 Dec 2007 08:57:20a, limey meant to say...
>
>> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I wuold also love to have a fresh gooseberry pie, at least one last
>>>>> time. :-) Nothing tastes like that.
>>>>

>> I'm curious, Wayne - when did you have gooseberries? If you found them
>> in the US, I'll waterboard you until I find out where!
>>

>
> At a farmer's market in Louisville, Ky. They were beautiful, ranging from
> pale green to rosey pink.
>

If you do a search for "Stachelbeere" (the German name for gooseberry),
you'll find
http://www.germandeli.com/schwartau.html
They're in Texas and you'll get at least gooseberry jam.

In my garden I have red and black currant bushes; they yield enough
for jams, sauces and baking (go on, hate me ;-))

Cheers,

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Michael Kuettner wrote:
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> If you do a search for "Stachelbeere" (the German name for
> gooseberry), you'll find
> http://www.germandeli.com/schwartau.html
> They're in Texas and you'll get at least gooseberry jam.
>
> In my garden I have red and black currant bushes; they yield enough
> for jams, sauces and baking (go on, hate me ;-))
>
> Cheers,
>
> Michael Kuettner


Thank you! It's an interesting site.
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Oh pshaw, on Thu 13 Dec 2007 02:59:11p, Michael Kuettner meant to say...

>
> Wayne Boatwright schrieb :
>> Oh pshaw, on Thu 13 Dec 2007 08:57:20a, limey meant to say...
>>
>>> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wuold also love to have a fresh gooseberry pie, at least one last
>>>>>> time. :-) Nothing tastes like that.
>>>>>
>>> I'm curious, Wayne - when did you have gooseberries? If you found them
>>> in the US, I'll waterboard you until I find out where!
>>>

>>
>> At a farmer's market in Louisville, Ky. They were beautiful, ranging

from
>> pale green to rosey pink.
>>

> If you do a search for "Stachelbeere" (the German name for gooseberry),
> you'll find
> http://www.germandeli.com/schwartau.html
> They're in Texas and you'll get at least gooseberry jam.
>
> In my garden I have red and black currant bushes; they yield enough
> for jams, sauces and baking (go on, hate me ;-))
>
> Cheers,
>
> Michael Kuettner
>
>
>
>


Thanks, Michael!

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Oh pshaw, on Thu 13 Dec 2007 05:56:09p, Janet Baraclough meant to say...

> The message >
> from "limey" > contains these words:
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>> Janet Baraclough wrote:
>> > The message >
>> > from "limey" > contains these words:
>> >
>> >> sf wrote:
>> >>> On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 07:03:19 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I wuold also love to have a fresh gooseberry pie, at least one
>> >>>>>> last time. :-) Nothing tastes like that.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Gooseberry - meaning "kiwi"? If not that, I have no idea what you
>> >>>>> mean. TIA
>> >>>>
>> >>>> No, not at all like kiwi. Like these...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> http://tinyurl.com/2pjnzm
>> >>>
>> >>> I think I've seen something like that... is the outside a husk? I'm
>> >>> wondering if I've actually eaten one and if I did, it was very
>> >>> limited - one or two. I think they are scarcer than currants. At
>> >>> least I know currants are sold somewhere in the US.
>> >>> "Gooseberries".... no clue.
>> >
>> >> Ah, gooseberry pie, or stewed gooseberries and custard sauce.
>> >
>> > Have you tasted gooseberry fool? Creamy-acid palest green,
>> > delectable.
>> >
>> > Janet.

>
>> Yes, Janet - but gooseberries are virtually unobtainable here in the US
>> unless you're lucky enough to live near a farm which grows them.

>
> If you have a garden and live in an area with a cool damp climate ,
> they are very easy to grow.
>
> Janet
>


Well, that lets me out. I live in the desert.

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"Terry Pulliam Burd" > wrote in message
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> Actually, I'm just looking for a source for boysenberries. The DH
> loves boysenberry pie, but I cannot find them at any time of the year
> at any market that has seen me darken their doorway in Orange County
> CA. LA County or San Diego foodies have any sources? Have
> Boysenberries Will Travel. TIA.
>
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> --


I have no idea where to find them at this time of year. Have you thought about using
frozen? Trader Joe's may have them frozen, I think.

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Janet Baraclough wrote:
>>>
>>> Have you tasted gooseberry fool? Creamy-acid palest green,
>>> delectable.
>>>
>>> Janet.

>
>> Yes, Janet - but gooseberries are virtually unobtainable here in the
>> US unless you're lucky enough to live near a farm which grows them.

>
> If you have a garden and live in an area with a cool damp climate ,
> they are very easy to grow.
>
> Janet


Unfortunately, that's why they are so hard to raise. They are probably
suited to a climate such as in Oregon or Washington (state), but so much
of the US, including where I live, suffers through very hot and dry
summers. Gooseberry bushes wouldn't survive our usual dry summertime
temperatures of around 90 degrees F., with other states much hotter and
drier than that.

Since we enjoy raspberries, blackberries, blueberries, etc., at the
perfect stage of ripeness and flown in from Chile at this time of year,
it's surprising gooseberries couldn't be flown in from Europe. It
could be lack of demand, since so many people here are unfamiliar with
the gooseberry. Just my thought.

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Oh pshaw, on Fri 14 Dec 2007 07:21:30a, Dora Crawford meant to say...

> Janet Baraclough wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Have you tasted gooseberry fool? Creamy-acid palest green,
>>>> delectable.
>>>>
>>>> Janet.

>>
>>> Yes, Janet - but gooseberries are virtually unobtainable here in the
>>> US unless you're lucky enough to live near a farm which grows them.

>>
>> If you have a garden and live in an area with a cool damp climate ,
>> they are very easy to grow.
>>
>> Janet

>
> Unfortunately, that's why they are so hard to raise. They are probably
> suited to a climate such as in Oregon or Washington (state), but so much
> of the US, including where I live, suffers through very hot and dry
> summers. Gooseberry bushes wouldn't survive our usual dry summertime
> temperatures of around 90 degrees F., with other states much hotter and
> drier than that.
>
> Since we enjoy raspberries, blackberries, blueberries, etc., at the
> perfect stage of ripeness and flown in from Chile at this time of year,
> it's surprising gooseberries couldn't be flown in from Europe. It
> could be lack of demand, since so many people here are unfamiliar with
> the gooseberry. Just my thought.
>
> Dora
>
>


Dora, they seem to be equally unfamiliar with red, balck, and white
currants, too.

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limey wrote:
> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I wuold also love to have a fresh gooseberry pie, at least one last
>>>> time. :-) Nothing tastes like that.
>>>

> I'm curious, Wayne - when did you have gooseberries? If you found them
> in the US, I'll waterboard you until I find out where!


If you guys are hot and bothered for currants and gooseberries, why
don't you grow them?

<for USians: it's pronounced "goosbreez">


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Pennyaline wrote:
> If you guys are hot and bothered for currants and gooseberries, why
> don't you grow them?
>
> <for USians: it's pronounced "goosbreez">


Wrong climate. Anyway, it's goozbrizz.
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limey wrote:
> Pennyaline wrote:
>> If you guys are hot and bothered for currants and gooseberries, why
>> don't you grow them?
>>
>> <for USians: it's pronounced "goosbreez">

>
> Wrong climate. Anyway, it's goozbrizz.


Wrong climate? Where are you?

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Pennyaline wrote:
> limey wrote:
>> Pennyaline wrote:
>>> If you guys are hot and bothered for currants and gooseberries, why
>>> don't you grow them?
>>>
>>> <for USians: it's pronounced "goosbreez">

>>
>> Wrong climate. Anyway, it's goozbrizz.

>
> Wrong climate? Where are you?
>
> <goosbreez>


Maryland, with hot, dry summers. Formerly the UK.
<gooz(as in took)brizz. Short, clipped. At least in London.
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limey wrote:
> Pennyaline wrote:
>> limey wrote:
>>> Pennyaline wrote:
>>>> If you guys are hot and bothered for currants and gooseberries, why
>>>> don't you grow them?
>>>>
>>>> <for USians: it's pronounced "goosbreez">
>>>
>>> Wrong climate. Anyway, it's goozbrizz.

>>
>> Wrong climate? Where are you?
>>
>> <goosbreez>

>
> Maryland, with hot, dry summers. Formerly the UK.
> <gooz(as in took)brizz. Short, clipped. At least in London.


Ah, Mary-land. My Londoner ex pronounces it that way, even after nearly
30 years in the US. He says "goosbreez" too.

Until 1999, I had lived in places that had short, humid but cool
summers. When I was a kid, we had currant bushes growing against an old
barn foundation, and red current jelly was a staple in our house. My
great-grandmother grew gooseberries, but I was a stupid child and didn't
try them because I thought they looked funny. Now that I live in the
arid West, I can grow berries only under controlled conditions and they
are invariably smaller and less flavorful than what I'm used to, as are
all the locally grown fruit.

Supermarkets will supply only what they think will sell. Year after
year, all I see are the basic cherries, grapes, blueberries,
raspberries, blackberries and strawberries. Currants and gooseberries
are not big hits in the retail market. Nor are a few other good berries.
Chances are those low demand items will never grace the shelves of
supermarkets.

This week our supermarkets still have strawberries for sale. Yes,
they're brought in from the Southern Hemisphere at this time of year,
but they may as well be local leftovers considering how miserable they
look. They are clearly not selling. Still, they are marked at the same
price as at the height of summer. Bleccch!
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Oh pshaw, on Sat 15 Dec 2007 10:53:24a, Pennyaline meant to say...

> limey wrote:
>> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I wuold also love to have a fresh gooseberry pie, at least one last
>>>>> time. :-) Nothing tastes like that.
>>>>

>> I'm curious, Wayne - when did you have gooseberries? If you found them
>> in the US, I'll waterboard you until I find out where!

>
> If you guys are hot and bothered for currants and gooseberries, why
> don't you grow them?
>
> <for USians: it's pronounced "goosbreez">


I live in the Arizona desert, clearly not the climate for growing either
gooseberries or currants, although we do grow many other fruits. Citrus
fruit, of course, and peaches, and some tropical fruits. Or course, this
requires tremendous irrigation.

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On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 19:20:22 -0700, Pennyaline
> wrote:

>Supermarkets will supply only what they think will sell. Year after
>year, all I see are the basic cherries, grapes, blueberries,
>raspberries, blackberries and strawberries. Currants and gooseberries
>are not big hits in the retail market. Nor are a few other good berries.
>Chances are those low demand items will never grace the shelves of
>supermarkets.


A good part of the reason for low demand is that prices are high if
they ever show up. I'd probably have to spend more (way more) than
$20 just to make a currant pie, if I ever saw them for sale. You can
only imagine what it would cost to make jam or jelly. So $20+ pies
are out and we can buy jars of currant jams/jellies for just a couple
of $, so there is no incentive to buy them at inflated prices.

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Pennyaline wrote:
> limey wrote:
>>>> Wrong climate. Anyway, it's goozbrizz.
>>>
>>> Wrong climate? Where are you?
>>>
>>> <goosbreez>

>>
>> Maryland, with hot, dry summers. Formerly the UK.
>> <gooz(as in took)brizz. Short, clipped. At least in London.

>
> Ah, Mary-land. My Londoner ex pronounces it that way, even after
> nearly 30 years in the US. He says "goosbreez" too.


Laugh! Corrupting that very old song, "You say tomaytoes an I say
tomahtoes, you say potaytoes and I say potahtoes":

"You say goosbreez and I say goozbrizz - let's
call the whole thing off!"

I agree with the rest of your post, Pennyline.

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On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 10:53:24 -0700, Pennyaline
> wrote:

>limey wrote:
>> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I wuold also love to have a fresh gooseberry pie, at least one last
>>>>> time. :-) Nothing tastes like that.
>>>>

>> I'm curious, Wayne - when did you have gooseberries? If you found them
>> in the US, I'll waterboard you until I find out where!

>
>If you guys are hot and bothered for currants and gooseberries, why
>don't you grow them?
>
><for USians: it's pronounced "goosbreez">


in frostbite falls, it's 'mooseberries.'

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