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Lou Decruss > wrote in
: > On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 03:34:01 GMT, Sarah Gray > > wrote: > >>Lou Decruss > wrote in m: >> >>> On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 03:19:08 GMT, Sarah Gray > >>> wrote: >>> >>>>top round is a very versatle cut with >>>>> little waste, it's the cut most likely to be on sale at $5/lb as a >>>>> BOGO. >>>>> >>>> >>>>$5 a pound is too expensive for nearly anything when you are working >>on >>>>a limited budget... >>> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BOGO >>> >>> Lou >>> >> >>I read it that it was $5 a pound after the BOGO thing. Even $2.50 a >>pound is no deal for boneless meat. > > Around here it's usually a bit over 2 bucks for top round. I don't > take Shemton too seriously when it come to comparing food prices > anyway. Actually I don't take him seriously about anything really. > > Lou > > My point is, that, if you are serious about saving money, you buy things (especially meat!) when they are on sale so you can spend less and have variety. |
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"Dan Goodman" > wrote in news:4764a343$0$1117
: > Sarah Gray wrote: > >> Christine Dabney > wrote in >> : >> >> > Heya folks, >> > >> > I know we have had extensive discussions about shopping for food, >> > and getting good deals, and cooking on a strict budget. A budget >> > of about USD $40/week, for instance. I don't know how that amount >> > translates to foreign currencies... >> <snip> >> > Anyone else trying to do this sort of thing? Stick to a strict >> > budget? What are you buying, and are you shopping the specials? >> > What do you plan on making with what you buy? How will you extend >> > your purchases to get the most out of them? >> > >> >> I have been mulling the idea of starting a blog about this type of >> thing. My budget is $300 a month for myself and my daughter. I know I >> can do this, because I used to spend less to feed both of us and her >> father. > > There are already such blogs; for example, > http://www.hillbillyhousewife.com/ > > But there's still room for more, if you can do something the other > bloggers aren't, do something better, or both. > I like to take pictures of the things I cook... Plus, I'm not likely to have ads for Christian ringtones on mine ![]() I don;t expect to have a large audience, it just seems like something fun for me to do. |
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On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 04:10:08 GMT, Sarah Gray >
wrote: >My point is, that, if you are serious about saving money, you buy things >(especially meat!) when they are on sale so you can spend less and have >variety. Gottcha. And don't do all your shopping in one place. I look at sale flyers but I have a pretty good idea where I want to buy different things at. Lou |
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"Sheldon" wrote
> I pay $1.99/lb for center cut loin chops or a center cut bone- > in loin roast and may slice it into chops, same difference... > sometimes boneless center cut loin is $1.99/lb too. But when you buy > the entire loin there's a tremendous amount of waste, bone and fat... > so at $1.89/lb (a dime a pound less) there's is no savings, in fact Actually it depnds on the cookery style but normally there's more than a 10cent difference between bone in and boneless. I do frequent crockpots of beans and things that are enhanced by roasted bones. Hence, I have a use for that bone. >I think it's silly to keep all those dollars worth of food in a >home freezer, not only is your cash tied up interest free but it costs >at least a buck a day to power that freezer plus amortizing the cost I will disagree here. An extra freezer is normally a money saver as you can stock up on 'loss leader' sales items. Also, they do not cost 1$ a day to run. My current one runs about 40$ a year or about 11cents a day. That was Japan electric costs. I havent been here long enough to have worked out the difference but I expect it to be less, though not as radically less as you might think. It wasnt plugged in until roughly 1 DEC so I can match the OCT/NOV bills (all else being just about the same) tot he DEC one when it shows up for a reasonable difference value. |
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Sarah Gray wrote:
> "Dan Goodman" > wrote in news:4764a343$0$1117 > : > > > Sarah Gray wrote: > > > >> Christine Dabney > wrote in > >> : > >> > >> > Heya folks, > >> > > >> > I know we have had extensive discussions about shopping for food, > >> > and getting good deals, and cooking on a strict budget. A budget > >> > of about USD $40/week, for instance. I don't know how that > amount >> > translates to foreign currencies... > >> <snip> > >> > Anyone else trying to do this sort of thing? Stick to a strict > >> > budget? What are you buying, and are you shopping the specials? > >> > What do you plan on making with what you buy? How will you > extend >> > your purchases to get the most out of them? > >> > > >> > >> I have been mulling the idea of starting a blog about this type of > >> thing. My budget is $300 a month for myself and my daughter. I > know I >> can do this, because I used to spend less to feed both of > us and her >> father. > > > > There are already such blogs; for example, > > http://www.hillbillyhousewife.com/ > > > > But there's still room for more, if you can do something the other > > bloggers aren't, do something better, or both. > > > > I like to take pictures of the things I cook... > Plus, I'm not likely to have ads for Christian ringtones on mine ![]() If I had an active blog and someone wanted to pay me for letting them advertise Christian ringtones, I would probably accept the offer. > I don;t expect to have a large audience, it just seems like something > fun for me to do. Then it's worth doing. -- Dan Goodman "I have always depended on the kindness of stranglers.". Tennessee Williams, A Streetcar Named Expire Journal http://dsgood.livejournal.com Futures http://dangoodman.livejournal.com mirror: http://dsgood.insanejournal.com Links http://del.icio.us/dsgood |
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Lou Decruss > wrote in
: > On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 04:10:08 GMT, Sarah Gray > > wrote: > >>My point is, that, if you are serious about saving money, you buy things >>(especially meat!) when they are on sale so you can spend less and have >>variety. > > Gottcha. And don't do all your shopping in one place. I look at sale > flyers but I have a pretty good idea where I want to buy different > things at. > > Lou I make lists and plan stuff out... I've even been doing that while I've lived with my mom, even though she plans stuff here and I just shop according to her list. |
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Lou Decruss > wrote: > On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 04:10:08 GMT, Sarah Gray > > wrote: > > >My point is, that, if you are serious about saving money, you buy things > >(especially meat!) when they are on sale so you can spend less and have > >variety. > > Gottcha. And don't do all your shopping in one place. As long as you don't end up driving hither and yon getting bargains, and costing yourself the "savings" in fuel. Miche -- Electricians do it in three phases |
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Miche > wrote in
: > In article >, > Lou Decruss > wrote: > >> On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 04:10:08 GMT, Sarah Gray > >> wrote: >> >> >My point is, that, if you are serious about saving money, you buy >> >things (especially meat!) when they are on sale so you can spend >> >less and have variety. >> >> Gottcha. And don't do all your shopping in one place. > > As long as you don't end up driving hither and yon getting bargains, > and costing yourself the "savings" in fuel. > > Miche > True; I live in a suburban area where there are many supermarkets and other food sources within 5 miles, and most of them are on the way to somewhere else I have to be... |
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![]() "Sarah Gray" > ha scritto nel messaggio . 33.102... >>>$5 a pound is too expensive for nearly anything when you are working > on >>>a limited budget... >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BOGO >> >> Lou >> > > I read it that it was $5 a pound after the BOGO thing. Even $2.50 a > pound is no deal for boneless meat. I disagree, I think. I paid about that for boneless pork leg yesterday, and when I cut it up into meal portions and froze it, it was seven meals for ?3.68. It was a members only special at the supermarket. That is about 50 centesimi per meal, or $.75, loosely speaking. There's no waste at all. -- http://www.judithgreenwood.com |
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Lou Decruss wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 03:34:38 GMT, Sarah Gray > > wrote: > >> Lou Decruss > wrote in >> : >> >>> On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 15:54:16 -0700, Christine Dabney >>> > wrote: >>> >>> >>>> One of the things I am finding, at least for the way I cook and >>>> eat, that $40/week buys me almost too much food. If I spend it on >>>> high priced "treats", then it doesn't go far at all. >>> >>> Why don't you take the time you're spending with this silly >>> self-challenge you're undertaking and work a few more hours per >>> month and buy what you really like? According to what you've >>> posted over the years you sure do like your "treats" >>> >> >> Not everyone *can* just work more hours to make more money, Lou. > > She's a specialized nurse. Around here at least they have so much > work they turn down overtime. One of my friends is a surgical nurse > and makes over 40 bucks an hour. One Saturday per month could double > a $40 a month food budget. So far as I can see, Christine makes it a sort of challenge. She doesn't say she can't afford more Anyway, I like my time at home too much to look for overtime ![]() |
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On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:08:04 -0700, Christine Dabney
> wrote: >Heya folks, > >I know we have had extensive discussions about shopping for food, and >getting good deals, and cooking on a strict budget. A budget of about >USD $40/week, for instance. I don't know how that amount translates >to foreign currencies... > >I know there are many among us that think it can't be done.... But >there are those of us that do think it can be done, and done very >well. Even in areas where there are not a lot of resources....or maybe >just one or two supermarkets, etc. > >Anyway, I thought I would start something here..maybe posting what I >buy every week, and what I end up doing with it. And how well I am >doing on staying within my budget. And how creative I might be able >to get with what I find in the markets, on this budget. A disclaimer: >I am only shopping and cooking for myself for the most part, but >occasionally I like to have folks over for dinner. I am still trying >to stay within that budget even when I have folks for dinner. > >I would hope this thread/topic doesn't turn into one that degenerates >into name calling or whatever. However, knowing this group, it >wouldn't surprise me if it did..LOL. > >I thought I would start out by showing what I bought today...a picture >and maybe prices. I started out with $40. I spent about $16 on what I >bought today. I still have about $24 to spend til next payday, which >is a week from today. > >More disclaimers: I still have a well stocked pantry, fridge and >freezer. I am not buying meat right now, as I am trying to use up >what I have in the fridge. But even if I were buying meat/protein >sources, I still would have some money with which to work. I always >look at specials, and try to buy those, if I can. > >Anyone else trying to do this sort of thing? Stick to a strict budget? >What are you buying, and are you shopping the specials? What do you >plan on making with what you buy? How will you extend your purchases >to get the most out of them? > >I might post pics and ads from where I shop occasionally... And maybe >even finished dishes. > >Anyone else interested in playing along with this idea? Show what you >buy, what specials you bought, what is available in your area, what >you cooked, etc..... Maybe contribute ideas of what to fix with such >specials..what I could have bought, and maybe fixed... > >Now..for pics and what I bought, where I shopped, etc. > >I shopped at Sunflower Market today. A new one opened up on this side >of town this week. I went in there this afternoon.. >This is their ad for the week: >http://www.sfmarkets.com/PDFDocs/r/R...EXJER7ET07.PDF > >I bought plum tomatoes, which were not one of the specials. Yeah, I >know, it isn't the season for tomatoes, but these looked decent. I >will use them in a salad, and in a pasta dish. >I also bought Ita lian parsley, red onions, grapefruit and >apples (which were on special). Green peppers and green onions were >also on sale, and I got those for making leftover turkey gumbo on >Sunday. > >I also stopped at one of the local Asian markets to buy some garlic. >They don't have an ad, but I wanted garlic, and some other things. I >bought. I got the peeled garlic there, carrots, and some baby bok >choy. The baby bok choy will be cooked with tofu and oyster sauce in >a stirfry. I already have the tofu. I have oyster sauce. I also have >some slice mushrooms that I bought on sale a week ago. They need to >be used up soon, so I will add them to the stirfry. > >The pictures of what I bought: >http://i6.tinypic.com/8bdzuw0.jpg >http://i5.tinypic.com/8557muw.jpg > >Oh, and tonight, I am fixing sweet and sour chicken, from The Breath >of the Wok... Some of the peppers will be used, as well as the >scallions, and the carrots. > >These dishes, and the fruit will be some of my dinners (work and >otherwise) this next week. I haven't decided on what else to cook yet >for the week ahead. > >Anyone else want to play? > >Christine > > > > Are you trying to shop or eat on $40 per week? There is a big difference when you start out with a well stocked freezer and pantry. I have 2 large freezers and the freezing compartments of 3 refrigerators pretty well stocked. I also have about 50 running feet of shelving in the basement full of home canned goods. Plus more with purchased on sale coffee, soups that my husband likes, dishwasher detergent, etc. So I think that if I worked real hard at it (and kept the DH out of the grocery store) we could both eat for about $20 a week. -- Susan N. "Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral, 48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy." Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974) |
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On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 07:21:19 GMT, Sarah Gray >
wrote: >Miche > wrote in : > >> In article >, >> Lou Decruss > wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 04:10:08 GMT, Sarah Gray > >>> wrote: >>> >>> >My point is, that, if you are serious about saving money, you buy >>> >things (especially meat!) when they are on sale so you can spend >>> >less and have variety. >>> >>> Gottcha. And don't do all your shopping in one place. >> >> As long as you don't end up driving hither and yon getting bargains, >> and costing yourself the "savings" in fuel. >> >> Miche >> > >True; I live in a suburban area where there are many supermarkets and >other food sources within 5 miles, and most of them are on the way to >somewhere else I have to be... We're in the city, but not the "inner" city. Most of our friends are in the suburbs and we shop when we visit. So gas is not really an issue. I know one family who lives out in "ruralville." They've got one store locally. For more choice they need to drive about 25 miles. That would suck. Lou |
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"Gregory Morrow" wrote
> Veg and lotsa other stuff is almost laughably cheap at the Asian stores I > I can buy three or four big bags of stuff for well under $20.00...the same > goes for Mexican places, especially produce. > I could go on, but these places are a wonderful boon for the budget... I agree. I might make a fast drive out to my local one. They are one of the only 2 places nearby with decent seafood and that it is also a very good price, is a major bonus. I'm sure 2 bags of 'stuff' will follow me home after leaping in my cart. I'm also sure it will be 20$ or less unless I see something really special and stock up. Actually, come to think of it, make that closer to 30$ as I need some of the better rices. Asian trained gal here <g>. I can't IMAGINE minute rice or 'boil-in-bag' !$@#$%!#@% in imy home. |
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Ophelia wrote:
> Lou Decruss wrote: >> On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 03:34:38 GMT, Sarah Gray > >> wrote: >> >>> Lou Decruss > wrote in >>> : >>> >>>> On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 15:54:16 -0700, Christine Dabney >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> One of the things I am finding, at least for the way I cook and >>>>> eat, that $40/week buys me almost too much food. If I spend it on >>>>> high priced "treats", then it doesn't go far at all. >>>> Why don't you take the time you're spending with this silly >>>> self-challenge you're undertaking and work a few more hours per >>>> month and buy what you really like? According to what you've >>>> posted over the years you sure do like your "treats" >>>> >>> Not everyone *can* just work more hours to make more money, Lou. >> She's a specialized nurse. Around here at least they have so much >> work they turn down overtime. One of my friends is a surgical nurse >> and makes over 40 bucks an hour. One Saturday per month could double >> a $40 a month food budget. > > So far as I can see, Christine makes it a sort of challenge. She doesn't > say she can't afford more > Anyway, I like my time at home too much to look for overtime ![]() > There used to be a joke about "Refigerator Nurses" who only worked when they needed to buy a new refrigerator. For me it isn't far from the truth. I don't walk in the door for less than $43/hour and if I work weekends (which I do) I get an extra $5/hour, and anything over my work commitment (24 hours a week) gets me another $10/hour extra on top of all that. I'd get that on top of OT pay too assuming I ever broke 40 hours in a week. So I do sign up for extra time now and then when "Momma needs a new....<fill in the blank>" It isn't easy work, requires a certain type of personality and some brute strength at times and is risky to my own health at times, but considering tht I started out making only 13.44/hour 10 years ago when I first graduated from my university program, I reckon I'm doing pretty damn well. |
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![]() "Lou Decruss" > wrote in message >>How many people are you feeding on that $100 a week? > > LOL.. Technically it's supposed to be only two. But we make and sent > goodies to two of the kids and the other is here all the time and he > eats all the leftovers. Which is fine because I'm not big on > leftovers so very little gets thrown out around here. I hate throwing > food away. OK, so you are eating on about $40 a week per person. > I'm sure I "could" eat for $40 a week myself. But there is no way I'd > call it "amazingly well". I like too many things like steak, shrimp, > brie, nice condiments, shark steaks, salmon, pine and macadamia nuts, > kalamata olives, and the list goes on. > > I have no doubt a person can eat well, and even healthy for $40 a > week. But not "amazingly," and certainly not the way a foodie > claiming to have over a 1000 cookbooks would be content with. You say that you can't, but do the math. $100 a week divided amonst two people plus a fairly regular guest works out to $40 a week, maybe even a little less. I like, and buy, much of the same items you do. I don't pay full price at the supermarket though, as I can get big saving using a food warehouse (BJ's in our area). Why pay $4.99 a pound for pork loin when I can buy it and cut it myself for $1.89 a pound? Sheldon oftem mentions the cost of stocking a freezer since your money is tied up in inventory. He makes a good point, but you can save much more that you can make in a bank or money market with careful shopping. Why pay $4.99 for a container of ice cream when I can buy it on sale for $1.99? If it sits in my freezer for four weeks, the ROI is better than bonds. Thank you for re-inforcing what I stated, you can eat "amazinly well" on $40 a week. YOu just have to know how to shop. -- Ed http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/ |
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"Christine Dabney" wrote
>>If I were in that situation, I think getting a standalone freezer to >>take advantage of cyclical sales and having a plan according to everyday >>prices, as opposed to shopping around, would be in order. > > That's what I do, even though I live in a city. I shop the sales and > thus have a well stocked freezer. If I bought all this stuff at > regular prices, I am sure it would have cost a fortune. Yup. Even a small standalone extra freezer in a small house of 1-2 people pays for itself. Examples in use he 3 small chicken carcasses- waiting for me to want to make stock. I call this 'free' as we ate the chickens. 2 medium fish carcasses- ok, so most of you all arent into Dashi or 'fish stock' but it's a mainstay here. 10 lbs rice- bugs dead if had any 10 lbs various flours for breadmaking- bugs dead if had any 7lbs frozen whole calimari- small ones, not but 6 inch body, 2 if fried per person, 1 if stuffed (only place with good calimari is 10mile round trip and not on the way to anything else so stocking up makes sense), repackaged to 3 to a bag for our uses. 1 gindai and 2 milkfish (same place as the calimari) 4oz miso (odd how miso doesnt really freeze but stays pliable) 12oz of tofu (same place as the fish, 25cents a block) 1 ham bone (saved for a bean pot) I havent had the freezer back in Virginia for long so that's a minimal stock over the last 2 weeks. Later, it grows as sales items accrue, and stock accrues (meaning I wont have to get stocks but make my own). I need one more small cornish hen carcass to make a good stock batch. My main kitchen freezer holds the chicken thighs, pork loin, and some leftovers we garnered in the 1.5 months while waiting for the big freezer to arrive. |
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![]() "Lou Decruss" > wrote > We're in the city, but not the "inner" city. Most of our friends are > in the suburbs and we shop when we visit. So gas is not really an > issue. I know one family who lives out in "ruralville." They've got > one store locally. For more choice they need to drive about 25 miles. > That would suck. That's tough. You'd just have to get yourself organized so you don't have to make a run to the store at the drop of a hat. Where I live, in the middle of everywhere and nowhere, there used to be just one supermarket convenient. It was awful, I bitched about it all the time. Grubby store with no selection and surly employees. Someone said Why don't you just shop somewhere else? There really is nowhere else convenient. The only other store within 8-10 miles was a huge hassle to get to and I didn't like that store either. Then Stop and Shop opened a couple miles away, and coincidentally my usual store was bought out by Albertsons and there was happiness and peace in the land. Fast forward 10 years or so, I pulled into the new Stop and Shop and ... it's gone! Brand new building, empty. Damn. So the past few weeks I've gone back to being 'stuck' with one local store, but today, I see another chain has taken over the Stop and Shop building. I had forgotten how nice it was to have a choice. I can't imagine having to drive 25 miles would be a fun situation. Maybe it would be worth it to have chickens and goats. Heh. nancy |
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![]() "Lou Decruss" > wrote in message ... I know one family who lives out in "ruralville." They've got > one store locally. For more choice they need to drive about 25 miles. > That would suck. > > Lou Sucking at about 28-30 miles. We go once a week and combine it with our trip to the farm to pick up milk. Before then,we would try to make it every 10 days. I hate shopping, mainly because it takes a whole day because we have a long shopping list and DH will not get started early. I am finally free from shopping at Walmart. Now there is a Walgreen's in the last couple of months (on the way to town, and Costco Pharmacy, of course), but whereas I went to Walmart to buy distilled water, now my distiller has been purchased and I'm distilling everyday. My glass wine jugs for containing water will be arriving tomorrow. Today there is ice everywhere, but we have no choice. Pick-up days for milk is Fri, Sat, Sun, so there is no choice. I hope to get DH to do the trip alone. Good Sunday morning, Dee Dee |
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![]() "The Cook" > wrote in message ... > > Are you trying to shop or eat on $40 per week? There is a big > difference when you start out with a well stocked freezer and pantry. > I have 2 large freezers and the freezing compartments of 3 > refrigerators pretty well stocked. I also have about 50 running feet > of shelving in the basement full of home canned goods. Plus more with > purchased on sale coffee, soups that my husband likes, dishwasher > detergent, etc. So I think that if I worked real hard at it (and kept > the DH out of the grocery store) we could both eat for about $20 a > week. > -- > Susan N. I like your style. You and Ed give sound advice. Dee Dee |
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"Wayne Boatwright" wrote
> It seems we've always had a freezer. My parents always had two chest > freezers. Even when I lived in apartments and condos I had an upright > freezer tucked away somewhere. We left our old one in Ohio when we moved > to AZ, but bought a new one almost immediately. It's not large, only 16 > cu. ft., but we got a really good buy on it at Lowe's. I've had one for 15 years now. The old unit (left with the tenants when we were in Sasebo Japan) was a commercial monster unit we never filled, but it is now happy with a local church that has a soup kitchen. The newer unit, gotten in Sasebo, is smaller but still a 24cubic if I added it right 3x2x5 internal dimensions. Modern and energy efficient I can estimate food savings with it. Roughly 25$ a month directly due to being able to take advantage of sales in quantity and store stock making stuff til there is enough to make a 4Gallon batch in the crockpot. Add the savings of not buying stock <g> and we seem to figure about 25$ a month. Figure it costs me a 10 mile round trip (nothing else that direction we go to) just for seafood so thats about 1.10$ for my car and i have cholestrol problems (beaten back to 220 only by a seafood diet), I can get in bulk there and without the extra freezer, I'd have to go almost weekly. Call it 3 times a month. |
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![]() "Lou Decruss" > wrote in message ... > On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 07:21:19 GMT, Sarah Gray > > wrote: > >>Miche > wrote in : >> >>> >>> >>> As long as you don't end up driving hither and yon getting bargains, >>> and costing yourself the "savings" in fuel. >>> >>> Miche >>> >> >>True; I live in a suburban area where there are many supermarkets and >>other food sources within 5 miles, and most of them are on the way to >>somewhere else I have to be... > > We're in the city, but not the "inner" city. Most of our friends are > in the suburbs and we shop when we visit. So gas is not really an > issue. I know one family who lives out in "ruralville." They've got > one store locally. For more choice they need to drive about 25 miles. > That would suck. > > Lou To get any choice other than the two I already have I'd have to drive 100 miles west to a much smaller town that has a Safeway. Going east I think it would probably have to be around 200 miles to find a store other than the two choices I already have. Ms P |
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On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 09:23:26 -0500, "Edwin Pawlowski" >
wrote: > >"Lou Decruss" > wrote in message >>>How many people are you feeding on that $100 a week? >> >> LOL.. Technically it's supposed to be only two. But we make and sent >> goodies to two of the kids and the other is here all the time and he >> eats all the leftovers. Which is fine because I'm not big on >> leftovers so very little gets thrown out around here. I hate throwing >> food away. > >OK, so you are eating on about $40 a week per person. > > > >> I'm sure I "could" eat for $40 a week myself. But there is no way I'd >> call it "amazingly well". I like too many things like steak, shrimp, >> brie, nice condiments, shark steaks, salmon, pine and macadamia nuts, >> kalamata olives, and the list goes on. >> >> I have no doubt a person can eat well, and even healthy for $40 a >> week. But not "amazingly," and certainly not the way a foodie >> claiming to have over a 1000 cookbooks would be content with. > >You say that you can't, but do the math. $100 a week divided amonst two >people plus a fairly regular guest works out to $40 a week, maybe even a >little less. I like, and buy, much of the same items you do. I don't pay >full price at the supermarket though, as I can get big saving using a food >warehouse (BJ's in our area). Why pay $4.99 a pound for pork loin when I can >buy it and cut it myself for $1.89 a pound? > >Sheldon oftem mentions the cost of stocking a freezer since your money is >tied up in inventory. He makes a good point, but you can save much more that >you can make in a bank or money market with careful shopping. Why pay $4.99 >for a container of ice cream when I can buy it on sale for $1.99? If it >sits in my freezer for four weeks, the ROI is better than bonds. > >Thank you for re-inforcing what I stated, you can eat "amazinly well" on $40 >a week. YOu just have to know how to shop. If you want to think I re-enforced you that's fine. I did say we spent OVER $100. I don't know exactly and I'm not going to waste my time trying to figure it out. But I do know if we limited out food purchases to 80 bucks a week our lifestyle would decline most weeks. And both of us are wise shoppers. Lou |
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On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 09:31:19 -0500, "Nancy Young" >
wrote: > >"Lou Decruss" > wrote > >> We're in the city, but not the "inner" city. Most of our friends are >> in the suburbs and we shop when we visit. So gas is not really an >> issue. I know one family who lives out in "ruralville." They've got >> one store locally. For more choice they need to drive about 25 miles. >> That would suck. > >That's tough. You'd just have to get yourself organized so you don't >have to make a run to the store at the drop of a hat. > >Where I live, in the middle of everywhere and nowhere, there used to >be just one supermarket convenient. It was awful, I bitched about it >all the time. Grubby store with no selection and surly employees. >Someone said Why don't you just shop somewhere else? There really >is nowhere else convenient. The only other store within 8-10 miles >was a huge hassle to get to and I didn't like that store either. > >Then Stop and Shop opened a couple miles away, and coincidentally >my usual store was bought out by Albertsons and there was happiness >and peace in the land. Fast forward 10 years or so, I pulled into the >new Stop and Shop and ... it's gone! Brand new building, empty. > >Damn. So the past few weeks I've gone back to being 'stuck' with >one local store, but today, I see another chain has taken over the >Stop and Shop building. I had forgotten how nice it was to have a >choice. I can't imagine having to drive 25 miles would be a fun >situation. Maybe it would be worth it to have chickens and goats. >Heh. Keep the chickens and goats. Glad you got another store. I'd be sad to just have two. Lou |
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On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 09:45:45 -0500, "Dee.Dee" >
wrote: > >"Lou Decruss" > wrote in message .. . > I know one family who lives out in "ruralville." They've got >> one store locally. For more choice they need to drive about 25 miles. >> That would suck. >> >> Lou > > >Sucking at about 28-30 miles. We go once a week and combine it with our >trip to the farm to pick up milk. Before then,we would try to make it every >10 days. I hate shopping, mainly because it takes a whole day because we >have a long shopping list and DH will not get started early. > >I am finally free from shopping at Walmart. Now there is a Walgreen's in >the last couple of months (on the way to town, and Costco Pharmacy, of >course), but whereas I went to Walmart to buy distilled water, now my >distiller has been purchased and I'm distilling everyday. My glass wine jugs >for containing water will be arriving tomorrow. > > Today there is ice everywhere, but we have no choice. Pick-up days for >milk is Fri, Sat, Sun, so there is no choice. I hope to get DH to do the >trip alone. > >Good Sunday morning, >Dee Dee Sorry to hear about the long drive Dee Dee. But I'm glad you're free from WM. If I believed in god I'd say WM was owned by satan. Lou |
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On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 08:56:01 -0600, "Ms P" >
wrote: >> We're in the city, but not the "inner" city. Most of our friends are >> in the suburbs and we shop when we visit. So gas is not really an >> issue. I know one family who lives out in "ruralville." They've got >> one store locally. For more choice they need to drive about 25 miles. >> That would suck. >> >> Lou > >To get any choice other than the two I already have I'd have to drive 100 >miles west to a much smaller town that has a Safeway. Going east I think it >would probably have to be around 200 miles to find a store other than the >two choices I already have. > >Ms P Good Lard!!! I hope you really like living where you do. I'm a city peoples. I'd die living that far from things. Lou |
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![]() "Lou Decruss" > ha scritto nel messaggio ... > On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 09:31:19 -0500, "Nancy Young" > > wrote: > >> >>"Lou Decruss" > wrote >> >>> We're in the city, but not the "inner" city. Most of our friends are >>> in the suburbs and we shop when we visit. So gas is not really an >>> issue. I know one family who lives out in "ruralville." They've got >>> one store locally. For more choice they need to drive about 25 miles. >>> That would suck. >>Where I live, in the middle of everywhere and nowhere, there used to >>be just one supermarket convenient. It was awful, I bitched about it >>all the time. Grubby store with no selection and surly employees. >>Someone said Why don't you just shop somewhere else? There really >>is nowhere else convenient. The only other store within 8-10 miles >>was a huge hassle to get to and I didn't like that store either. >> >>Then Stop and Shop opened a couple miles away, and coincidentally >>my usual store was bought out by Albertsons and there was happiness >>and peace in the land. Fast forward 10 years or so, I pulled into the >>new Stop and Shop and ... it's gone! Brand new building, empty. >> Glad you got another store. I'd be sad > to just have two. > > Lou Surely that would depend on what you got in the trade off? Two or more supermarkets would sort of preclude brilliant wilderness landscapes or silent mountaintops, or many other things that might be found appealing. -- http://www.judithgreenwood.com |
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On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 02:25:29 GMT, Lou Decruss > wrote:
>I'm sure I "could" eat for $40 a week myself. But there is no way I'd >call it "amazingly well". I like too many things like steak, shrimp, >brie, nice condiments, shark steaks, salmon, pine and macadamia nuts, >kalamata olives, and the list goes on. > >I have no doubt a person can eat well, and even healthy for $40 a >week. But not "amazingly," and certainly not the way a foodie >claiming to have over a 1000 cookbooks would be content with. You would be very surprised at how amazingly well one can eat for that little amount. The cookbook library enables me to search for recipes for great food, and often times it is pretty amazing for the little amount I spend. As someone said, how much you spend doesn't correlate with how well you can eat, nor how amazingly good it can be. Peasant food can be extremely good, and even amazingly good if done well. Christine |
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Oh pshaw, on Sun 16 Dec 2007 08:20:12a, Lou Decruss meant to say...
> On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 09:31:19 -0500, "Nancy Young" > > wrote: > >> >>"Lou Decruss" > wrote >> >>> We're in the city, but not the "inner" city. Most of our friends are >>> in the suburbs and we shop when we visit. So gas is not really an >>> issue. I know one family who lives out in "ruralville." They've got >>> one store locally. For more choice they need to drive about 25 miles. >>> That would suck. >> >>That's tough. You'd just have to get yourself organized so you don't >>have to make a run to the store at the drop of a hat. >> >>Where I live, in the middle of everywhere and nowhere, there used to >>be just one supermarket convenient. It was awful, I bitched about it >>all the time. Grubby store with no selection and surly employees. >>Someone said Why don't you just shop somewhere else? There really >>is nowhere else convenient. The only other store within 8-10 miles >>was a huge hassle to get to and I didn't like that store either. >> >>Then Stop and Shop opened a couple miles away, and coincidentally >>my usual store was bought out by Albertsons and there was happiness >>and peace in the land. Fast forward 10 years or so, I pulled into the >>new Stop and Shop and ... it's gone! Brand new building, empty. >> >>Damn. So the past few weeks I've gone back to being 'stuck' with >>one local store, but today, I see another chain has taken over the >>Stop and Shop building. I had forgotten how nice it was to have a >>choice. I can't imagine having to drive 25 miles would be a fun >>situation. Maybe it would be worth it to have chickens and goats. >>Heh. > > Keep the chickens and goats. Glad you got another store. I'd be sad > to just have two. > > Lou > For a few years we lived in an area where the closest store was 23 miles away, and it was the only store. The next closest was 40 miles away. That really sucked big time, since we had been used to any number of stores where we lived previously. Now we live in an area where there are stores of 4 major chains as well as a Wal-Mart all within a 3 mile radius. The only places I have to drive slightly farther for are TJ's, Sprouts, and Whole Foods. As far as what we spend, we are on a fairly tight budget, so we buy what we can when we can for as little as we can. It can vary radically from week to week. We put things in the freezer when there are the best prices. I always make large batches of spaghetti sauce, chili, soups, etc., and freeze them in dinner sized portions. We certainly don't go hungry, but I can't say that we always have what we want to eat at any given time. -- Wayne Boatwright Date: Dec 13,2007 ******************************************* Countdown 'til Christmas 1wks 2dys 5hrs 45mins 41secs ******************************************* Did you really expect mere proof to sway my opinion? HA! ******************************************* |
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Oh pshaw, on Sun 16 Dec 2007 07:56:01a, Ms P meant to say...
> > "Lou Decruss" > wrote in message > ... >> On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 07:21:19 GMT, Sarah Gray > >> wrote: >> >>>Miche > wrote in : >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> As long as you don't end up driving hither and yon getting bargains, >>>> and costing yourself the "savings" in fuel. >>>> >>>> Miche >>>> >>> >>>True; I live in a suburban area where there are many supermarkets and >>>other food sources within 5 miles, and most of them are on the way to >>>somewhere else I have to be... >> >> We're in the city, but not the "inner" city. Most of our friends are >> in the suburbs and we shop when we visit. So gas is not really an >> issue. I know one family who lives out in "ruralville." They've got >> one store locally. For more choice they need to drive about 25 miles. >> That would suck. >> >> Lou > > To get any choice other than the two I already have I'd have to drive > 100 miles west to a much smaller town that has a Safeway. Going east I > think it would probably have to be around 200 miles to find a store > other than the two choices I already have. > > Ms P > > You must live in the middle of nowhere! -- Wayne Boatwright Date: Dec 13,2007 ******************************************* Countdown 'til Christmas 1wks 2dys 5hrs 45mins 41secs ******************************************* Did you really expect mere proof to sway my opinion? HA! ******************************************* |
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On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 10:34:36 -0000, "Ophelia" > wrote:
>>>> Why don't you take the time you're spending with this silly >>>> self-challenge you're undertaking and work a few more hours per >>>> month and buy what you really like? According to what you've >>>> posted over the years you sure do like your "treats" >>>> >>> >>> Not everyone *can* just work more hours to make more money, Lou. >> >> She's a specialized nurse. Around here at least they have so much >> work they turn down overtime. One of my friends is a surgical nurse >> and makes over 40 bucks an hour. One Saturday per month could double >> a $40 a month food budget. > >So far as I can see, Christine makes it a sort of challenge. She doesn't >say she can't afford more >Anyway, I like my time at home too much to look for overtime ![]() > Exactly, Ophelia. This challenge is a game to me...and yes, I am saving money for specific things. I can afford more, but if I want to save money I will cut back. And no, it is not really a silly challenge, at least to me. Maybe to others of you, but not to me. And I am not sure which treats you are speaking of...it is very rare that I spend money on special treats, other than to get the ingredients to make them myself. ANd as it is, I work 12 hour shifts..and some of those shifts are brutal. Sometimes, it is all I can do to work the ones I have scheduled. I come home exhausted many days... There is a reason many nurses burn out early and often... Christine |
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On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 09:23:26 -0500, "Edwin Pawlowski" >
wrote: Why pay $4.99 >for a container of ice cream when I can buy it on sale for $1.99? If it >sits in my freezer for four weeks, the ROI is better than bonds. Or you can get the ingredients for it, and make some of the best ice cream that you have ever had, in amazing flavors and combinations, for not more than you pay for the cheaper brands. And the quality is much better. Christine |
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![]() -- http://www.judithgreenwood.com "Christine Dabney" > ha scritto nel messaggio ... > On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 02:25:29 GMT, Lou Decruss > wrote: > > >>I'm sure I "could" eat for $40 a week myself. But there is no way I'd >>call it "amazingly well". I like too many things like steak, shrimp, >>brie, nice condiments, shark steaks, salmon, pine and macadamia nuts, >>kalamata olives, and the list goes on. >> >>I have no doubt a person can eat well, and even healthy for $40 a >>week. But not "amazingly," and certainly not the way a foodie >>claiming to have over a 1000 cookbooks would be content with. > > You would be very surprised at how amazingly well one can eat for that > little amount. The cookbook library enables me to search for recipes > for great food, and often times it is pretty amazing for the little > amount I spend. > > As someone said, how much you spend doesn't correlate with how well > you can eat, nor how amazingly good it can be. Peasant food can be > extremely good, and even amazingly good if done well. > > Christine Here is a strictly local dish I wrote up for a recipèe brochure. Cheap and good. You can substitute thick bacon, diced, for the guanciale. Polenta Valsugana is a polenta that cooks in 8 minutes. I have no use for that stuff in tubes. Obviously, ordinary polenta can be used. This serves 4, so it makes 4 meals for me. Preheat the oven to 175°C or 350°F Cook Polenta Valsugana for 4 exactly as in the preceding recipe. a.. 1 etto (100 g) guanciale or pancetta tesa. Ask for it "sottlile ma non troppo" (thin, but not too thin). Cut the slices you get into 1-inch wide pieces. b.. About 100 g (3.5 ounces) of pecorino stagionato, grated coarsely c.. Extra virgin olive oil Oil a baking dish well. Put about 2 tablespoons/cucchiai of the oil into a frying pan and saute the guanciale until well browned and crispish, but not hard. When the polenta is boiled, pour half into the baking dish, then scatter half the guanciale, including the oil, over it, then half the grated pecorino. Pour the rest of the polenta over that, and smooth a bit with a wet spoon. Scatter the rest of the guanciale over it, poking it down a bit, then the rest of the oil, and then scatter the rest of the pecorino over it. Bake for 20 minutes. Best hot, smoking hot. A light tomato sauce can be used as a garnish. This is a traditional dish of the Trasimeno zone, and therefore Trasimeno wines ought to work. It's lovely with cabbage, especially sauteed. |
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![]() "Lou Decruss" > wrote in message ... > On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 08:56:01 -0600, "Ms P" > > wrote: > > >>> We're in the city, but not the "inner" city. Most of our friends are >>> in the suburbs and we shop when we visit. So gas is not really an >>> issue. I know one family who lives out in "ruralville." They've got >>> one store locally. For more choice they need to drive about 25 miles. >>> That would suck. >>> >>> Lou >> >>To get any choice other than the two I already have I'd have to drive 100 >>miles west to a much smaller town that has a Safeway. Going east I think >>it >>would probably have to be around 200 miles to find a store other than the >>two choices I already have. >> >>Ms P > > Good Lard!!! I hope you really like living where you do. I'm a city > peoples. I'd die living that far from things. > > Lou Basically you don't miss what you've never had. I grew up in this area. When you grow up here you're just used to not having things or driving 2 to 4 hours to somewhere. It's just short of 4 hours to the nearest "city" from here. It's perfectly normal for people here to get up, drive to the city, have lunch, shop all afternoon, have supper and drive home all in the same day. You leave at 8am and are home by 10 or 11 pm. You will not get any sympathy from anyone out here when you whine about driving a whole 25 miles to something. There are people out here that live more than 50 miles one way to the nearest Walmart. We used to have 3 choices of grocery stores. Now we have Walmart and Dillon's. Dillon's is owned by Kroger. But I can still feed the two of us on less than 80 bucks a week shopping at Dillon's for the majority of my groceries. There is very little food that I buy at Walmart. The things I buy there are generally non food but Target beats their price on most paper goods now so even the non food I buy at Walmart is getting less all the time. Ms P |
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![]() "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message 3.184... > Oh pshaw, on Sun 16 Dec 2007 07:56:01a, Ms P meant to say... >>> >> To get any choice other than the two I already have I'd have to drive >> 100 miles west to a much smaller town that has a Safeway. Going east I >> think it would probably have to be around 200 miles to find a store >> other than the two choices I already have. >> >> Ms P >> >> > > You must live in the middle of nowhere! > > -- > Wayne Boatwright > LOL, no. I live on the edge of the middle of nowhere. The actual middle is 100 miles to the west of here. From there it's 100 miles to anything east or west. My mom lives over there. She comes over here about every other month and stocks up on staples she can't get at home. Honestly out here 100 miles just doesn't seem all that far. Shoot, I've got to drive at least twice that far in either direction before I feel like I've left home. Ms P |
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![]() "Ms P" > wrote in message ... > > To get any choice other than the two I already have I'd have to drive 100 > miles west to a much smaller town that has a Safeway. Going east I think > it would probably have to be around 200 miles to find a store other than > the two choices I already have. > > Ms P One makes sacrifices to have a certain life-style; that's what we have done. I hope yours is a good trade-off, too. Dee Dee |
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Lou Decruss wrote:
> Sheldon wrote: > > >I can go for a while on $40.week but not too long before replenishing > >staples... > > I'm in the camp that believes two can live for not much more than one. I'm in the camp that believes that food is the one cost two (or more) cannot share... you can have a whole family living under the same roof, sharing the same ride, finding their way by the same lights, watching the same TV, sharing the same PC, cooking with the same heat, even showering together, but no way can two eat the same food unless you both eat half the amount. > We spend over a $100 a week. � Over, how much "over"... that's like asking an alcholic how much they drink each day and they answer, oh, more than one... what they don't say is one at a time until they finish the bottle. When someone answers they spend *over* $XXX they are giving the classic Bubba Clinton response... lying by the sin of ommision... and then I know I'm never going to believe anything you ever say about how much you spend for anything, you'll never tell the truth. Actually I don't think too many ever tell the truth about this topic.. people don't tell their own children their income, they're not going to tell the truth about money on the net. > But we eat out less than once a month. That's a whole nother catagory from grocery bills.. to some a burger, fries and a coke at a fast food joint is eating out, to others a full soup to nuts porterhouse/lobster dinner with $100/pop vin at Chez-Chez is eating out. My brother spends way less than $40 each week on groceries from the market, his fridge is literally empty except for doggiie bags (that mostly end up in the trash), he eats out every meal, a lot of retireees in Florida do. My brother never cooks, he owns one small sauce pan and one small fry pan, the last time I visited his fry pan 20 years old and still had the label glued on. Again, there is no friggin' way in the US in 2007 one can eat *well* on $40/week... you can subsist... but eat well, no way, no how. I don't call eating from the used meat bin, the used produce bin, the used bread bin, etc, eating *well*... that's eating well in Somalia or Biafra. When folks claim to have well paying jobs... live in their own nice home, and talk about how they spend money on all sorts of non essentials then I'm not going to believe they eat on $40/week (why would they want to), not unless their life is a charade and they don't really live as they portray themselves and so they need to skimp on food (kishka gelt) to keep up the fasade. I don't see too many grocery carts going through the checkout containing under $100 of just food, and then they're only 1/3 full.... mostly I see $300 carts and I can tell it's just a week's worth or less for a family of four by the perishables, not too many buy a month's worth of perishables. If folks really don't have enough money to spend more than $40/week on food there's no shame or need to appologize, but that's a whole lot different from portraying themselves as able to do all sorts of costly things like trips to foreign countries, entertain with huge cookouts, and all kinds of other costly hobbies and endeavers and then expect me to believe they're eating on a poverty and distress budget then there is something terribly wrong with their paint by numbers picture of themselves. There have been times in my life when I had to tighten my belt for a couple three years and if anyone knows how to stretch a food dollar it's me, the last time was 20 years ago when I went a couple of years on $25/wk for food, I lived but there was no way I ate well on that limited budget... stews, soups, and chicken get boring very fast... my best meals were those when I'd surf cast the Lung Guyland waters, free fresh caught fish, but still I'd have to add ingredients to make it a meal. And anyone tells me they buy expensive cuts like rib steaks and lamb chops marked down I call them a liar, the meat department employees take those if they're worthwhile, if not they go into the ground meat. In all my years of shopping I've never seen expensve cuts marked down for quick sale, the store employees get first crack at discounted meats, in fact they purposely plan on discounted meats for themselves by putting the best of them aside until the day before the sale is over... the meat they put out for quick sale isn't even fit for the grinder. SHELDON |
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![]() "Ms P" > wrote in message ... > > "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message > 3.184... >> Oh pshaw, on Sun 16 Dec 2007 07:56:01a, Ms P meant to say... >>>> >>> To get any choice other than the two I already have I'd have to drive >>> 100 miles west to a much smaller town that has a Safeway. Going east I >>> think it would probably have to be around 200 miles to find a store >>> other than the two choices I already have. >>> >>> Ms P >>> >>> >> >> You must live in the middle of nowhere! >> >> -- >> Wayne Boatwright >> > > LOL, no. I live on the edge of the middle of nowhere. The actual middle > is 100 miles to the west of here. From there it's 100 miles to anything > east or west. My mom lives over there. She comes over here about every > other month and stocks up on staples she can't get at home. > > Honestly out here 100 miles just doesn't seem all that far. Shoot, I've > got to drive at least twice that far in either direction before I feel > like I've left home. > > Ms P Sounds like West Virginia to me -- any more guesses? Dee Dee |
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![]() "Christine Dabney" > wrote in message ... > On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 09:23:26 -0500, "Edwin Pawlowski" > > wrote: > > > Why pay $4.99 >>for a container of ice cream when I can buy it on sale for $1.99? If it >>sits in my freezer for four weeks, the ROI is better than bonds. > > Or you can get the ingredients for it, and make some of the best ice > cream that you have ever had, in amazing flavors and combinations, for > not more than you pay for the cheaper brands. And the quality is much > better. > > Christine I saw Ina Garten making ice cream using a Cuisinart ice cream maker which you usually can get for $49.95. She said something like, this is a very ice cream maker. I agree. Dee Dee |
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On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 13:30:14 -0700, Christine Dabney
> wrote: >On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 17:42:38 GMT, blake murphy > >wrote: > > >>is that the peeled garlic in what looks like a sealed plastic bag? >>how well does it keep, and how do you store it after opening the bag? >> >>your pal, >>blake > >Yes, that is the peeled garlic. I got hooked on getting it after >buying it one day in an Asian market. I tend to use a lot of garlic, >and I get really bored with peeling garlic... ![]() >cost me about $1.50. > >It keeps pretty well. I transfer it to a ziplock bag and store it in >the fridge. I am thinking that I might like to use one of those >Handivacs on it though..when I get one. > >Christine i was in a huge korean market that had peeled the cloves in a jar, in what i think was salt water. i'm wondering how those keep as well. your pal, blake |
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On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 03:54:08 GMT, Lou Decruss > wrote:
>On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 03:34:01 GMT, Sarah Gray > >wrote: > >>Lou Decruss > wrote in m: >> >>> On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 03:19:08 GMT, Sarah Gray > >>> wrote: >>> >>>>top round is a very versatle cut with >>>>> little waste, it's the cut most likely to be on sale at $5/lb as a >>>>> BOGO. >>>>> >>>> >>>>$5 a pound is too expensive for nearly anything when you are working >>on >>>>a limited budget... >>> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BOGO >>> >>> Lou >>> >> >>I read it that it was $5 a pound after the BOGO thing. Even $2.50 a >>pound is no deal for boneless meat. > >Around here it's usually a bit over 2 bucks for top round. I don't >take Shemton too seriously when it come to comparing food prices >anyway. Actually I don't take him seriously about anything really. > >Lou he knows his spam, though, and the best kind of cheap vodka to drink with it. yum! your pal, blake |
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