<sf> wrote in message
>>
> Whoa, you tracked it! Did you factor in the cost of your machine into
> the cost of your ice cream? I'd amortize of course, but it's still a
> major factor for the first 200+ batches.
>
>

Sure, but home made is about quality and flavor. You just can't beat a good
fresh fruit ice cream that is very rich.

Oh pshaw, on Sun 16 Dec 2007 06:00:26p, Edwin Pawlowski meant to say...

>
> <sf> wrote in message
>>>
>> Whoa, you tracked it! Did you factor in the cost of your machine into
>> the cost of your ice cream? I'd amortize of course, but it's still a
>> major factor for the first 200+ batches.
>>
>>
>
> Sure, but home made is about quality and flavor. You just can't beat a
> good fresh fruit ice cream that is very rich.
>
>
>

Fresh hoemade peach ice cream is my favorite!

--
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Date: Sunday, December(XII) 16th(XVI),2007(MMVII)

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On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 01:25:59 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>Oh pshaw, on Sun 16 Dec 2007 06:00:26p, Edwin Pawlowski meant to say...

>> Sure, but home made is about quality and flavor. You just can't beat a
>> good fresh fruit ice cream that is very rich.
>>
>>
>>
>
>Fresh hoemade peach ice cream is my favorite!

And this is one of the best, from Kay Hartman, who got it from Cook's
Illustrated. I have made this several times, and it is really not
very expensive to make, especially during peach season when you can
get wonderful ripe flavorful peaches.

My own adaptation is that instead of using vodka, I use rum.

Christine

Fresh Peach Ice Cream


Makes about 1 quart


3 medium-size ripe peaches, peeled, pitted, and cut into 1/2-inch
pieces (about 2 cups)
1/2 teaspoon juice from 1 lemon
Pinch salt
1 cup plus 6 tablespoons sugar
1 1/4 cups whole milk [I only had 2/3 cup of milk in the house so I
used it and made up the difference with half-and-half]
1 1/3 cups heavy cream
6 large egg yolks
1 teaspoon vanilla extract
2 tablespoons vodka


1. Stir peaches, lemon juice, a pinch salt, and 1/2 cup sugar in
medium-size nonreactive saucepan to combine; let stand until a pool
of syrupy liquid accumulates and peaches soften slightly, 1 to 1
1/2 hours.


2. Position sieve over medium bowl set in an ice-water bath; set
aside. Heat milk, cream, and 1/2 cup sugar in medium-size heavy
saucepan over medium heat, stirring occasionally, until steam
appears, 5 to 6 minutes. Turn off heat. Meanwhile, whisk yolks
and remaining 6 tablespoons sugar in medium bowl until pale yellow.
Stir half the warmed milk mixture into beaten yolk mixture until
just blended. Return milk-yolk mixture to saucepan of remaining
warmed milk mixture. Heat milk-yolk mixture over medium-low heat,
stirring constantly with wooden spoon until steam appears, foam
subsides, and mixture just begins to thicken or instant-read
thermometer registers 180 degrees F (mixture must not boil or eggs
will curdle). Remove from heat, and immediately strain custard
into prepared bowl. Cool custard mixture to room temperature, stir
in vanilla, then cover and refrigerate until instant-read
thermometer registers 40 degrees F, at least 2 and up to 24 hours.
[I made the custard the day before I froze it, a good idea
generally, and let it cool in the fridge all night and most of the
next day. I didn't bother to measure the temperature.]


3. Meanwhile, heat softened peaches and their liquid, stirring
occasionally, over medium-high heat until peaches are tender and
flesh has broken down, 3 to 4 minutes. [The idea is to soften the
peaches so they won't be rock hard when the custard is frozen. You
don't want them completely cooked because you want to preserve the
fresh peach flavor.] Transfer to bowl, stir in vodka, and
refrigerate until cold, at least 4 and up to 24 hours. [The
addition of the vodka is again for the texture of the frozen
peaches.]


4. Strain chilled peaches, reserving liquid. Stir reserved peach
liquid into chilled custard mixture; pour into ice cream machine
canister and churn, following manufacturer's instructions, until
mixture is frozen and resembles soft-serve ice cream, 25 to 30
minutes. Add peaches; continue to churn until combined, about 30
seconds longer. Transfer ice cream to airtight container. Freeze
until firm, about 2 hours.

Oh pshaw, on Sun 16 Dec 2007 06:38:14p, Christine Dabney meant to say...

> On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 01:25:59 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
>>Oh pshaw, on Sun 16 Dec 2007 06:00:26p, Edwin Pawlowski meant to say...
>
>>> Sure, but home made is about quality and flavor. You just can't beat a
>>> good fresh fruit ice cream that is very rich.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Fresh hoemade peach ice cream is my favorite!
>
> And this is one of the best, from Kay Hartman, who got it from Cook's
> Illustrated. I have made this several times, and it is really not
> very expensive to make, especially during peach season when you can
> get wonderful ripe flavorful peaches.
>
> My own adaptation is that instead of using vodka, I use rum.
>
> Christine
>
> Fresh Peach Ice Cream
>
>
> Makes about 1 quart
>
>
> 3 medium-size ripe peaches, peeled, pitted, and cut into 1/2-inch
> pieces (about 2 cups)
> 1/2 teaspoon juice from 1 lemon
> Pinch salt
> 1 cup plus 6 tablespoons sugar
> 1 1/4 cups whole milk [I only had 2/3 cup of milk in the house so I
> used it and made up the difference with half-and-half]
> 1 1/3 cups heavy cream
> 6 large egg yolks
> 1 teaspoon vanilla extract
> 2 tablespoons vodka
>
>
> 1. Stir peaches, lemon juice, a pinch salt, and 1/2 cup sugar in
> medium-size nonreactive saucepan to combine; let stand until a pool
> of syrupy liquid accumulates and peaches soften slightly, 1 to 1
> 1/2 hours.
>
>
> 2. Position sieve over medium bowl set in an ice-water bath; set
> aside. Heat milk, cream, and 1/2 cup sugar in medium-size heavy
> saucepan over medium heat, stirring occasionally, until steam
> appears, 5 to 6 minutes. Turn off heat. Meanwhile, whisk yolks
> and remaining 6 tablespoons sugar in medium bowl until pale yellow.
> Stir half the warmed milk mixture into beaten yolk mixture until
> just blended. Return milk-yolk mixture to saucepan of remaining
> warmed milk mixture. Heat milk-yolk mixture over medium-low heat,
> stirring constantly with wooden spoon until steam appears, foam
> subsides, and mixture just begins to thicken or instant-read
> thermometer registers 180 degrees F (mixture must not boil or eggs
> will curdle). Remove from heat, and immediately strain custard
> into prepared bowl. Cool custard mixture to room temperature, stir
> in vanilla, then cover and refrigerate until instant-read
> thermometer registers 40 degrees F, at least 2 and up to 24 hours.
> [I made the custard the day before I froze it, a good idea
> generally, and let it cool in the fridge all night and most of the
> next day. I didn't bother to measure the temperature.]
>
>
> 3. Meanwhile, heat softened peaches and their liquid, stirring
> occasionally, over medium-high heat until peaches are tender and
> flesh has broken down, 3 to 4 minutes. [The idea is to soften the
> peaches so they won't be rock hard when the custard is frozen. You
> don't want them completely cooked because you want to preserve the
> fresh peach flavor.] Transfer to bowl, stir in vodka, and
> refrigerate until cold, at least 4 and up to 24 hours. [The
> addition of the vodka is again for the texture of the frozen
> peaches.]
>
>
> 4. Strain chilled peaches, reserving liquid. Stir reserved peach
> liquid into chilled custard mixture; pour into ice cream machine
> canister and churn, following manufacturer's instructions, until
> mixture is frozen and resembles soft-serve ice cream, 25 to 30
> minutes. Add peaches; continue to churn until combined, about 30
> seconds longer. Transfer ice cream to airtight container. Freeze
> until firm, about 2 hours.
>
>
>

Thanks, Christine. Somewhere in the deep dark confines of my hard drive I
thihnk I have this, but I'm grateful to have it again where I can put my
fingers on it! My preference would be rum, too. I don't care for vodka.

--
Wayne Boatwright

Date: Sunday, December(XII) 16th(XVI),2007(MMVII)

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1wks 6hrs 6mins 51secs
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On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 02:00:52 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:


>Thanks, Christine. Somewhere in the deep dark confines of my hard drive I
>thihnk I have this, but I'm grateful to have it again where I can put my
>fingers on it! My preference would be rum, too. I don't care for vodka.

The vodka is to help with the texture, not for the flavor. However, I
don't see where adding a complimentary alcoholic flavor hurts. It
will still help the texture. And if the vodka is used, my
understanding is that it is undetectable except as helping with the
texture.

Christine

Oh pshaw, on Sun 16 Dec 2007 07:04:32p, Christine Dabney meant to say...

> On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 02:00:52 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
>
>>Thanks, Christine. Somewhere in the deep dark confines of my hard drive
I
>>thihnk I have this, but I'm grateful to have it again where I can put my
>>fingers on it! My preference would be rum, too. I don't care for vodka.
>
> The vodka is to help with the texture, not for the flavor. However, I
> don't see where adding a complimentary alcoholic flavor hurts. It
> will still help the texture. And if the vodka is used, my
> understanding is that it is undetectable except as helping with the
> texture.
>
> Christine
>

Oh, I understand that, but for some reason I can detect vodka in something,
no matter how small an amount. I can just barely tolerate it in a very
spicy bloody mary, but nothing else. :-) Plus, I love the falvor of rum.

--
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Date: Sunday, December(XII) 16th(XVI),2007(MMVII)

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"Ms P" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Tracy R." > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 11:15:25 -0600, "Ms P" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>
>> Texas, I bet. My parents lived on the family ranch in the hill country
>> (Katarina, to be exact) and yeah, it's really that far to anything.
>> Mom made a seventy mile trip (one way) to the grocery every month or
>> so...
>>
>> Regards,
>> Tracy R.
>
> I've been to the hill country of Texas. Gorgeous. I'm north of Texas but
> still in that largely empty middle section of the country.
>
> Ms P


So, Ms P, you are from Oklahoma, unless my geography knowledge is wrong?
That is a nice state.
Dee Dee

<sf> wrote in message ...
> On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 18:11:33 -0500, "Dee.Dee" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>><sf> wrote in message ...
>>> On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 17:32:20 -0500, "Dee.Dee" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I got my new compressor ice cream maker,
>>>
>>> What brand did you get?
>>>
>>
>>I bought the larger Lello Gelato 4090. 2 qts., I believe. Now I will
>>have
>>to adjust my ice cream recipe ;-))
>>
>>I just looked and I think it is now currently unavailable.
>>
>>Was I ever lucky. I saw it jump to $354; then one day I looked at it was
>>$239.00 Made my order right away, with an extra bucket, being optimistic.
>>
> Whoa, you tracked it! Did you factor in the cost of your machine into
> the cost of your ice cream? I'd amortize of course, but it's still a
> major factor for the first 200+ batches.
>
>

Lord only knows if it will last 200 or even 100. I wanted one so badly made
in Italy, but alas it is China.

I'll bet Wayne's is made in Italy. I've been so jealous that he's had one
because I wanted one so badly in the 70's when he bought his (I think) they
were popular, but the price in dollars then compared to now was tremendous.
I'm glad his has lasted so well.

Amortizing machines is out -- I figure my appliances are the cost of wasted
dinners out that I don't bother with anymore. :-))

Dee Dee

"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
>>>
>>>Was I ever lucky. I saw it jump to $354; then one day I looked at it
>>>was $239.00 Made my order right away, with an extra bucket, being
>>>optimistic.
>>>
>> Whoa, you tracked it! Did you factor in the cost of your machine into
>> the cost of your ice cream? I'd amortize of course, but it's still a
>> major factor for the first 200+ batches.
>>
>>
>>
>
> OR, you could list the ice cream maker as a toy and not count it at all!
>
> That's what I did when I bought mine in 1975. IIRC, I paid ~$300 back
> then, which was a whopping amount at the time for such a device.
>
> --
> Wayne Boatwright

Yes, they were very popular, but I recall when I looked at them that there
were other things I wanted/needed at the time, and as you say, it was a
tremendous amount, but it seems that most appliances -- food processors and
mixers were high, too -- but nothing like the ice cream maker.

Dee Dee

"Christine Dabney" > wrote in message
...


Thanks Christine for the nice peach ice cream recipe.
Saved.
Dee Dee

"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message >
> I bought an Il Gelataio compressor unit back in 1975 and it's still going
> strong. It make 1-1/2 quarts. I also have a White Mountain 6 quart
> electric with wooden bucket, but we never use it. I guess I should sell
> it. I would never make 6 quarts of ice cream again.
>
> --
> Wayne Boatwright
>


I should've bought the Il Gelataio when I didn't splurge for the compressor
ice cream maker in the 70's, but I recall now buying the White Mountain. I
can't even recall what ever happened to it. But they are selling for a
'good' price nowadays.
Dee Dee

"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message >
> Thanks for posting this one, too, Barbara. They both look good!
>
> --
> Wayne Boatwright


sf, you are Barbara? I've not heard this before.
May I address you as Barbara?

Dee Dee

"Dee.Dee" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Ms P" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Tracy R." > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> I've been to the hill country of Texas. Gorgeous. I'm north of Texas
>> but still in that largely empty middle section of the country.
>>
>> Ms P
>
>
> So, Ms P, you are from Oklahoma, unless my geography knowledge is wrong?
> That is a nice state.
> Dee Dee
>

The empty middle of the country states include parts of Texas, Oklahoma,
Kansas, Nebraska, South Dakota, North Dakota, Wyoming and parts of eastern
Colorado and eastern New Mexico.

Big states, sparsely populated.

Ms P

On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 23:53:51 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>We have plenty of freezer space, as our refrigerator freezer is a good
>size, and we also have a separate freezer in the utility room/pantry
>adjacent to the kitchen.

Lucky you!

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"Ms P" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Dee.Dee" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Ms P" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "Tracy R." > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>> I've been to the hill country of Texas. Gorgeous. I'm north of Texas
>>> but still in that largely empty middle section of the country.
>>>
>>> Ms P
>>
>>
>> So, Ms P, you are from Oklahoma, unless my geography knowledge is wrong?
>> That is a nice state.
>> Dee Dee
>>
>
> The empty middle of the country states include parts of Texas, Oklahoma,
> Kansas, Nebraska, South Dakota, North Dakota, Wyoming and parts of eastern
> Colorado and eastern New Mexico.
>
> Big states, sparsely populated.
>
> Ms P


Ok, Ms P -- one more guess -- then that's it. I'll take Wyoming. ;-))
You'd better come out with it!
Dee Dee

On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 00:10:55 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>OR, you could list the ice cream maker as a toy and not count it at all!

Nope, I amortize clothing.... so why wouldn't I amortize something
like that?
>
>That's what I did when I bought mine in 1975. IIRC, I paid ~$300 back
>then, which was a whopping amount at the time for such a device.

It sure was, but that was your other lifetime and money didn't mean
what it does now to you.


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Lou Decruss > wrote in
:

> On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 07:21:19 GMT, Sarah Gray >
> wrote:
>
>>Miche > wrote in
:
>>
>>> In article >,
>>> Lou Decruss > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 04:10:08 GMT, Sarah Gray
>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >My point is, that, if you are serious about saving money, you buy
>>>> >things (especially meat!) when they are on sale so you can spend
>>>> >less and have variety.
>>>>
>>>> Gottcha. And don't do all your shopping in one place.
>>>
>>> As long as you don't end up driving hither and yon getting bargains,
>>> and costing yourself the "savings" in fuel.
>>>
>>> Miche
>>>
>>
>>True; I live in a suburban area where there are many supermarkets and
>>other food sources within 5 miles, and most of them are on the way to
>>somewhere else I have to be...
>
> We're in the city, but not the "inner" city. Most of our friends are
> in the suburbs and we shop when we visit. So gas is not really an
> issue. I know one family who lives out in "ruralville." They've got
> one store locally. For more choice they need to drive about 25 miles.
> That would suck.

If I were in that situation, I think getting a standalone freezer to
take advantage of cyclical sales and having a plan according to everyday
prices, as opposed to shopping around, would be in order.

On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 03:52:17 GMT, Sarah Gray >
wrote:


>If I were in that situation, I think getting a standalone freezer to
>take advantage of cyclical sales and having a plan according to everyday
>prices, as opposed to shopping around, would be in order.

That's what I do, even though I live in a city. I shop the sales and
thus have a well stocked freezer. If I bought all this stuff at
regular prices, I am sure it would have cost a fortune.

I took the remains of the Thanksgiving turkey out of the freezer this
afternoon, plus the Andouille sausage I got a few weeks ago. Gumbo is
in the works!

Also, I took out a package of boneless chicken thighs that were on
sale a few months ago. I am thinking of making some sort of curry
with them, unless I spy another good recipe for them that utilizes the
ingredients I already have here.

Christine

On Dec 14, 11:08 pm, Christine Dabney > wrote:
> Heya folks,
>
> I know we have had extensive discussions about shopping for food, and
> getting good deals, and cooking on a strict budget. A budget of about
> USD $40/week, for instance. I don't know how that amount translates
> to foreign currencies...
>
> I know there are many among us that think it can't be done.... But
> there are those of us that do think it can be done, and done very
> well. Even in areas where there are not a lot of resources....or maybe
> just one or two supermarkets, etc.
>
> Anyway, I thought I would start something here..maybe posting what I
> buy every week, and what I end up doing with it. And how well I am
> doing on staying within my budget. And how creative I might be able
> to get with what I find in the markets, on this budget. A disclaimer:
> I am only shopping and cooking for myself for the most part, but
> occasionally I like to have folks over for dinner. I am still trying
> to stay within that budget even when I have folks for dinner.
>
> I would hope this thread/topic doesn't turn into one that degenerates
> into name calling or whatever. However, knowing this group, it
> wouldn't surprise me if it did..LOL.
>
> I thought I would start out by showing what I bought today...a picture
> and maybe prices. I started out with $40. I spent about $16 on what I
> bought today. I still have about $24 to spend til next payday, which
> is a week from today.
>
> More disclaimers: I still have a well stocked pantry, fridge and
> freezer. I am not buying meat right now, as I am trying to use up
> what I have in the fridge. But even if I were buying meat/protein
> sources, I still would have some money with which to work. I always
> look at specials, and try to buy those, if I can.
>
> Anyone else trying to do this sort of thing? Stick to a strict budget?
> What are you buying, and are you shopping the specials? What do you
> plan on making with what you buy? How will you extend your purchases
> to get the most out of them?
>
> I might post pics and ads from where I shop occasionally... And maybe
> even finished dishes.
>
> Anyone else interested in playing along with this idea? Show what you
> buy, what specials you bought, what is available in your area, what
> you cooked, etc..... Maybe contribute ideas of what to fix with such
> specials..what I could have bought, and maybe fixed...
>
> Now..for pics and what I bought, where I shopped, etc.
>
> I shopped at Sunflower Market today. A new one opened up on this side
> of town this week. I went in there this afternoon..
> This is their ad for the week:http://www.sfmarkets.com/PDFDocs/r/R...EXJER7ET07.PDF
>
> I bought plum tomatoes, which were not one of the specials. Yeah, I
> know, it isn't the season for tomatoes, but these looked decent. I
> will use them in a salad, and in a pasta dish.
> I also bought Ita lian parsley, red onions, grapefruit and
> apples (which were on special). Green peppers and green onions were
> also on sale, and I got those for making leftover turkey gumbo on
> Sunday.
>
> I also stopped at one of the local Asian markets to buy some garlic.
> They don't have an ad, but I wanted garlic, and some other things. I
> bought. I got the peeled garlic there, carrots, and some baby bok
> choy. The baby bok choy will be cooked with tofu and oyster sauce in
> a stirfry. I already have the tofu. I have oyster sauce. I also have
> some slice mushrooms that I bought on sale a week ago. They need to
> be used up soon, so I will add them to the stirfry.
>
> The pictures of what I bought:http://i6.tinypic.com/8bdzuw0.jpghtt...om/8557muw.jpg
>
> Oh, and tonight, I am fixing sweet and sour chicken, from The Breath
> of the Wok... Some of the peppers will be used, as well as the
> scallions, and the carrots.
>
> These dishes, and the fruit will be some of my dinners (work and
> otherwise) this next week. I haven't decided on what else to cook yet
> for the week ahead.
>
> Anyone else want to play?
>
> Christine

I think it would be very interesting to find out how others manage to
spend money for food. We do it for calories all the time. However, I
dont see any specifics here. And of course, cooking for one is a
different kettle of fish isnt it. Here is a very interesting story in
news week about an obese woman with very little money.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/76929

Oh pshaw, on Sun 16 Dec 2007 08:12:42p, Dee.Dee meant to say...

>
> <sf> wrote in message ...
>> On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 18:11:33 -0500, "Dee.Dee" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>><sf> wrote in message
...
>>>> On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 17:32:20 -0500, "Dee.Dee" >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I got my new compressor ice cream maker,
>>>>
>>>> What brand did you get?
>>>>
>>>
>>>I bought the larger Lello Gelato 4090. 2 qts., I believe. Now I will
>>>have to adjust my ice cream recipe ;-))
>>>
>>>I just looked and I think it is now currently unavailable.
>>>
>>>Was I ever lucky. I saw it jump to $354; then one day I looked at it
>>>was $239.00 Made my order right away, with an extra bucket, being
>>>optimistic.
>>>
>> Whoa, you tracked it! Did you factor in the cost of your machine into
>> the cost of your ice cream? I'd amortize of course, but it's still a
>> major factor for the first 200+ batches.
>>
>>
>
> Lord only knows if it will last 200 or even 100. I wanted one so badly
> made in Italy, but alas it is China.

It's hard to say, but yours seems like a good brand, regardless of origin.

> I'll bet Wayne's is made in Italy. I've been so jealous that he's had
> one because I wanted one so badly in the 70's when he bought his (I
> think) they were popular, but the price in dollars then compared to now
> was tremendous. I'm glad his has lasted so well.

Yes, made in Italy, purchased in 1975. At that time the only machine
easily available for home users were made by Simac. The model I bought, Il
Gelataio, was their top model. The onlyu down side is that the bowl isn't
removable, but it's not a big deal. It's seen a lot of use over the years.

> Amortizing machines is out -- I figure my appliances are the cost of
> wasted dinners out that I don't bother with anymore. :-))

Heh, I wouldn't bother!

> Dee Dee
>
>
>
>



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Date: Sunday, December(XII) 16th(XVI),2007(MMVII)

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"Dee.Dee" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Ms P" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> The empty middle of the country states include parts of Texas, Oklahoma,
>> Kansas, Nebraska, South Dakota, North Dakota, Wyoming and parts of
>> eastern Colorado and eastern New Mexico.
>>
>> Big states, sparsely populated.
>>
>> Ms P
>
>
> Ok, Ms P -- one more guess -- then that's it. I'll take Wyoming. ;-))
> You'd better come out with it!
> Dee Dee
>

Right now I'm in far western Kansas. My mom lives over in Colorado.

Ms P

Oh pshaw, on Sun 16 Dec 2007 08:16:29p, Dee.Dee meant to say...

>
> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
>>>>
>>>>Was I ever lucky. I saw it jump to $354; then one day I looked at it
>>>>was $239.00 Made my order right away, with an extra bucket, being
>>>>optimistic.
>>>>
>>> Whoa, you tracked it! Did you factor in the cost of your machine into
>>> the cost of your ice cream? I'd amortize of course, but it's still a
>>> major factor for the first 200+ batches.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> OR, you could list the ice cream maker as a toy and not count it at
>> all!
>>
>> That's what I did when I bought mine in 1975. IIRC, I paid ~$300 back
>> then, which was a whopping amount at the time for such a device.
>>
>> --
>> Wayne Boatwright
>
> Yes, they were very popular, but I recall when I looked at them that
> there were other things I wanted/needed at the time, and as you say, it
> was a tremendous amount, but it seems that most appliances -- food
> processors and mixers were high, too -- but nothing like the ice cream
> maker.
>
> Dee Dee

Yes, that was about the same that I bought my first Cuisinart (made by
Robot Coupé). It was expensive, made of solid metal, and heavier than
hell. Unfortunately, as models changed, the bowls were no longer available
and I couldn't replace mine when it finally cracked.

I also bought my KA K5 about within the same year. Seems like that was the
year for expensive appliances. :-)

--
Wayne Boatwright

Date: Sunday, December(XII) 16th(XVI),2007(MMVII)

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Oh pshaw, on Sun 16 Dec 2007 08:22:42p, Dee.Dee meant to say...

>
> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message >
>> I bought an Il Gelataio compressor unit back in 1975 and it's still
>> going strong. It make 1-1/2 quarts. I also have a White Mountain 6
>> quart electric with wooden bucket, but we never use it. I guess I
>> should sell it. I would never make 6 quarts of ice cream again.
>>
>> --
>> Wayne Boatwright
>>
>
>
> I should've bought the Il Gelataio when I didn't splurge for the
> compressor ice cream maker in the 70's, but I recall now buying the
> White Mountain. I can't even recall what ever happened to it. But they
> are selling for a 'good' price nowadays.
> Dee Dee
>
>
>

I had the White Mountain first, but I should have bought a smaller one. 6
quarts is a lot of ice cream for just a couple of people and the work best
when filled near capacity. Plus, it was all the mess with the ice and
salt, and it was awkward to use in the house.

--
Wayne Boatwright

Date: Sunday, December(XII) 16th(XVI),2007(MMVII)

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Oh pshaw, on Sun 16 Dec 2007 08:48:46p, meant to say...

> On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 00:10:55 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
>>OR, you could list the ice cream maker as a toy and not count it at all!
>
> Nope, I amortize clothing.... so why wouldn't I amortize something
> like that?
>>
>>That's what I did when I bought mine in 1975. IIRC, I paid ~$300 back
>>then, which was a whopping amount at the time for such a device.
>
> It sure was, but that was your other lifetime and money didn't mean
> what it does now to you.
>
>

Yes, you remember correctly, my friend.

--
Wayne Boatwright

Date: Sunday, December(XII) 16th(XVI),2007(MMVII)

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Oh pshaw, on Sun 16 Dec 2007 08:46:23p, meant to say...

> On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 23:53:51 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
>>We have plenty of freezer space, as our refrigerator freezer is a good
>>size, and we also have a separate freezer in the utility room/pantry
>>adjacent to the kitchen.
>
> Lucky you!
>

It seems we've always had a freezer. My parents always had two chest
freezers. Even when I lived in apartments and condos I had an upright
freezer tucked away somewhere. We left our old one in Ohio when we moved
to AZ, but bought a new one almost immediately. It's not large, only 16
cu. ft., but we got a really good buy on it at Lowe's. It's a Frigidaire
commercial unit.

--
Wayne Boatwright

Date: Sunday, December(XII) 16th(XVI),2007(MMVII)

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"Ms P" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Dee.Dee" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Ms P" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> The empty middle of the country states include parts of Texas, Oklahoma,
>>> Kansas, Nebraska, South Dakota, North Dakota, Wyoming and parts of
>>> eastern Colorado and eastern New Mexico.
>>>
>>> Big states, sparsely populated.
>>>
>>> Ms P
>>
>>
>> Ok, Ms P -- one more guess -- then that's it. I'll take Wyoming. ;-))
>> You'd better come out with it!
>> Dee Dee
>>
>
> Right now I'm in far western Kansas. My mom lives over in Colorado.
>
> Ms P


I recall visiting in Lewis, Kansas, in the 50's having to drive the 7 miles
to Kinsley -- which seemed an eternity in a big Chrysler which was taken out
of the garage for the long drive for groceries. I was about 20 years old
and this was HELL!
Dee Dee

Oh pshaw, on Sun 16 Dec 2007 10:08:30p, Dee.Dee meant to say...

>
> "Ms P" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Dee.Dee" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "Ms P" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> The empty middle of the country states include parts of Texas,
>>>> Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, South Dakota, North Dakota, Wyoming and
>>>> parts of eastern Colorado and eastern New Mexico.
>>>>
>>>> Big states, sparsely populated.
>>>>
>>>> Ms P
>>>
>>>
>>> Ok, Ms P -- one more guess -- then that's it. I'll take Wyoming. ;-))
>>> You'd better come out with it!
>>> Dee Dee
>>>
>>
>> Right now I'm in far western Kansas. My mom lives over in Colorado.
>>
>> Ms P
>
>
> I recall visiting in Lewis, Kansas, in the 50's having to drive the 7
> miles to Kinsley -- which seemed an eternity in a big Chrysler which was
> taken out of the garage for the long drive for groceries. I was about
> 20 years old and this was HELL!
> Dee Dee
>
>
>

"7" miles? An eternity? LOL!

--
Wayne Boatwright

Date: Sunday, December(XII) 16th(XVI),2007(MMVII)

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"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message >> I recall
visiting in Lewis, Kansas, in the 50's having to drive the 7
>> miles to Kinsley -- which seemed an eternity in a big Chrysler which was
>> taken out of the garage for the long drive for groceries. I was about
>> 20 years old and this was HELL!
>> Dee Dee
>>
>>
>>
>
> "7" miles? An eternity? LOL!

> Wayne Boatwright


No hyperbole there! I thought I was going to die on that ride ;-))
Dee Dee

"Dee.Dee" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Ms P" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> Right now I'm in far western Kansas. My mom lives over in Colorado.
>>
>> Ms P
>
>
> I recall visiting in Lewis, Kansas, in the 50's having to drive the 7
> miles to Kinsley -- which seemed an eternity in a big Chrysler which was
> taken out of the garage for the long drive for groceries. I was about 20
> years old and this was HELL!
> Dee Dee

When I was 20 I lived on a farm in eastern Colorado. It was 20 miles to the
nearest store of any kind. We drove another 30 miles on to the bigger town
to get groceries. And that was a small town of less than 10K.

I still miss that farm. You could see for miles around. It was quiet and
we had a huge garden, three milk cows and a whole bunch of chickens. We
also had a four body freezer in the basement always full of beef and
chicken.

7 miles is not hell.

Ms P

"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message >
> "7" miles? An eternity? LOL!
>
> --
> Wayne Boatwright


Yes, I think we were not allowed to drive that monster car more than 40 mph.
Might get some splash/mud on it. LOL.
Dee Dee

Oh pshaw, on Sun 16 Dec 2007 10:24:44p, Dee.Dee meant to say...

>
> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message >> I recall
> visiting in Lewis, Kansas, in the 50's having to drive the 7
>>> miles to Kinsley -- which seemed an eternity in a big Chrysler which
was
>>> taken out of the garage for the long drive for groceries. I was about
>>> 20 years old and this was HELL!
>>> Dee Dee
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> "7" miles? An eternity? LOL!
>
>> Wayne Boatwright
>
>
> No hyperbole there! I thought I was going to die on that ride ;-))
> Dee Dee
>
>
>

Poor Dee Dee! :-(

--
Wayne Boatwright

Date: Sunday, December(XII) 16th(XVI),2007(MMVII)

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Oh pshaw, on Sun 16 Dec 2007 10:26:08p, Dee.Dee meant to say...

>
> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message >
>> "7" miles? An eternity? LOL!
>>
>> --
>> Wayne Boatwright
>
>
> Yes, I think we were not allowed to drive that monster car more than 40
> mph. Might get some splash/mud on it. LOL.
> Dee Dee
>
>

I know what you mean. My dad drove lincolns in those days.

A friend of mine back in the 1960s, when there were still huge cars around,
spoke about maneuvering hers. She always said parking it was like try to
berth the Queen Mary.

--
Wayne Boatwright

Date: Sunday, December(XII) 16th(XVI),2007(MMVII)

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"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
3.184...
>>
>
> I know what you mean. My dad drove lincolns in those days.
>
> A friend of mine back in the 1960s, when there were still huge cars
> around,
> spoke about maneuvering hers. She always said parking it was like try to
> berth the Queen Mary.
>
> --
> Wayne Boatwright
>

My sister had a 1974 4-door Chevy Impala. You could rent the trunk out to a
family of four. We called it the land yacht.

Ms P

In article
>,
honeybunch > wrote:

> I think it would be very interesting to find out how others manage to
> spend money for food. We do it for calories all the time. However, I
> dont see any specifics here. And of course, cooking for one is a
> different kettle of fish isnt it. Here is a very interesting story in
> news week about an obese woman with very little money.
> http://www.newsweek.com/id/76929

It's not a story about one woman and her food choices. It's about a lot
of people making do with what they have available.

Miche

--
Electricians do it in three phases

Dee.Dee wrote:
> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message >> I recall
> visiting in Lewis, Kansas, in the 50's having to drive the 7
>>> miles to Kinsley -- which seemed an eternity in a big Chrysler which was
>>> taken out of the garage for the long drive for groceries. I was about
>>> 20 years old and this was HELL!
>>> Dee Dee
>>
>> "7" miles? An eternity? LOL!

It could be here in Los Angeles. I wouldn't drive that far for food.

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Christine Dabney wrote:

> On 16 Dec 2007 18:26:11 GMT, "Default User" >
> wrote:

> > That's not been my experience. Homemade ice cream is great, but the
> > ingredients are expensive. Heavy cream runs about 4$ a quart (more
> > if bought in smaller containers), vanilla is very expensive. You're
> > paying retail for all the ingredients.
>
> I got cream here this week for $1.69, for a pint. Good stuff, not
> ultra-pasteurized.

Is that the regular price? Cream isn't something you can buy in bulk
and keep in the pantry.



Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

On 17 Dec 2007 07:49:58 GMT, "Default User" >
wrote:


>Is that the regular price? Cream isn't something you can buy in bulk
>and keep in the pantry.

Yes, that is the regular price. It is from a local dairy...

Christine

cybercat blasts us with:

> Wasting resources is unwise and unkind


"Liberalism is like a turd painted gold - it may glitter and look good from
a distance, but close up you'll see that it stinks..."

--
Best
Greg

" I find Greg Morrow lowbrow, witless, and obnoxious. For him to claim that
we are some kind of comedy team turns my stomach."
- "cybercat" to me on rec.food.cooking.

"Lou Decruss" wrote

>>That's kinda "odd", here in Chicawgo pork is just about the cheapest meat
>>going, many times it's cheaper than chicken even...
>
> We got bone in chops yesterday for $..98 a pound.

I'd have stocked up with that price!

"Gregory Morrow" > ha scritto nel
messaggio ...
>
> cybercat blasts us with:
>
>> Wasting resources is unwise and unkind
>
>
> "Liberalism is like a turd painted gold - it may glitter and look good
> from
> a distance, but close up you'll see that it stinks..."
>
> --
> Best
> Greg

How come that people in other rich countries know that resources are finite
and to waste is unethical, but over and over one hears from the US, "I can
afford to throw it out?" Not from everyone, of course, but I hardly ever
hear it from other peoples.
-
http://www.judithgreenwood.com