"Paul M. Cook" > wrote in message
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> I have an In-Sink-Erator, the cheaper one. It doesn't work worth crap.
> It cannot grind up the waste fine enough. The higher end models, that
> cost 7 times as much, do a pretty swell job, though.

Not sure which model I have.
>
> To sum up everything, a compost pile is your best option. You just dump
> anything organic, save for meat, into the pile and you are rewarded with a
> mulch that is a gift from heaven. You can get these nifty compost bins at
> any garden shop.

Got no room in the yard for a compost pile.
>
> As for stuff like the carpets, that is what toilets are for. Never use a
> drain for what a toilet can do when you are in doubt about clogging. I
> have cleaned my carpets and the waste water is mostly solids like cat and
> human hair. Quite disgusting. And easily clogs any drain save for a
> sewer pipe.

Thanks!

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote
>
>> My tub always gets clogged when my daughter uses it. She must shed like
>> crazy. She had super long hair and every time she washed her hair in the
>> tub I would have to use a device to get the hair out of the drain. Never
>> seems to happen when I bathe, but I have shorter hair.
>
> I bought a plastic drain cover from Bed Bath & Beyond, it catches the
> hair while allowing the water to go through. Not the most attractive
> thing
> but it has saved on clogs.
>
> http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/prod...3708878&RN=182

That might work in my shower, but I don't think it would work in my tub. It
has a weird sort of drain.
>
> As far as the disposal goes, I don't use mine for much either. I
> certainly
> don't dump food down there deliberately. I have that little wire mesh
> thing over the hole to catch most stuff and the disposal is for the
> flotsam
> and jetsam that winds up down there anyway. I've had disposals in the
> past that weren't such a problem, but something about my setup doesn't
> work as well as those did. I have wondered if it's because I had them
> install it on the big bowl in the double sink rather than the small one.

Hmmm... I don't know.

"Lou Decruss" > wrote in message
...

>>
>>Believe me, I wish I had a disposal now that I live in AZ. We don't/won't
>>compost. We have no need of it. I have no intention of storing garbage
>>in
>>my freezer until collection day.
>
> I've never heard of anyone storing garbage in the freezer until now.
> <gasp>

I have.

"Dee.Dee" > wrote in message
...

> How I peel veggies, or prep other food without it falling into the garbage
> disposal:
>
> For peeling vegetables: i.e., carrots, potatoes, some broccoli stems,
> fish prep, etc.
>
> Pull off a bounty towel sheet, place it over the garbage disposal hole.
> Run a little water on it. It now becomes wet and water will run right
> through it without a hitch. You can run water if you wish while peeling
> into the sink without the garbage going down the hole. When you are thru,
> grab up the corners of the paper towel, give it a squeeze, and dump it in
> your container.

Thanks! I'll try that.

On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:26:25 GMT, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:06:35 GMT, Lou Decruss wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 10:02:32 -0500, "Dee.Dee" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Lou Decruss" > wrote in message
...
>>>.
>>>>
>>>> I've never heard of anyone storing garbage in the freezer until now.
>>>> <gasp>
>>>
>>>I'd rather put garbage under freezing conditions than put it in an open
>>>container in cupboards.
>>
>> Looks like I'm in the minority here. Oh well. I'm still not going to
>> start doing it.
>
>I don't see a difference between putting cooked pork or cooked,
>empty pork bones in the freezer. It's not like they're rotten -
>I just got done eating them. It's only garbage in the sense that
>I don't want it any more.

I do understand your point. It might be living situations I'm
thinking. It's just not something I've ever needed to do.

Lou

Julie Bove wrote:
> "Dee.Dee" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> How I peel veggies, or prep other food without it falling into the garbage
>> disposal:
>>
>> For peeling vegetables: i.e., carrots, potatoes, some broccoli stems,
>> fish prep, etc.
>>
>> Pull off a bounty towel sheet, place it over the garbage disposal hole.
>> Run a little water on it. It now becomes wet and water will run right
>> through it without a hitch. You can run water if you wish while peeling
>> into the sink without the garbage going down the hole. When you are thru,
>> grab up the corners of the paper towel, give it a squeeze, and dump it in
>> your container.
>
> Thanks! I'll try that.

I love this idea! I just moved to a new apartment without a garbage
disposal and I miss it terribly.


-Tracy

Julie Bove wrote:
> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 20:57:30 -0500, Goomba38 wrote:
>>
>>> Why would you *want* to put corn cobs and bones in the disposal though?
>> If the trash pickup just came for the week and there's no room
>> left in the freezer (to freeze the trash until next trash
>> pickup). Corncobs, maybe I can let those slide, but no meat
>> products will stay in my trash for more than a 36 hours.
>>
>> And I don't generate enough trash to justify trowing out a 1/6th
>> full trash bag where the raccoons will get it.
>
> We have raccoons here. Which is one reason I'd rather put the food down the
> sink. They eat enough of my fresh garden produce. I don't need them
> getting in the trash as well!
>
>
If you have a garden, why not compost the vegetable-based trash?

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Sqwertz > wrote:

>On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 05:14:48 +0000 (UTC), Steve Pope wrote:

>> The Berkeley City Code specifically allows garbage disposals.
>> In fact, the only two things you can legally do with your
>> household garbage is put it in the city-provided garbage can
>> to be collected by the city; or put it down a garbage disposal
>> in accordance with the city Plumbing Code.

>Option #3 Put it in your compost container.

Yes, I should have added that the household garbage is sorted
into normal garbage, compostables, glass, metal, plastic and paper
recyclables, and also yard debris. There are a total of four types
of city-provided containers.

Steve

Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> Actually, In-Sink-Erator has a newer model specifically designed for use
> with septic systems. It has an additional component, a small reservoir,
> that pumps a special enzyme into the grinding chamber while the machine is
> running. It's supposed to aid in the "digestion" of whatever one might put
> down the disposal. We have been considering this, but haven't made a
> decision yet.
>

I'm on septic, too, but the house (brand new-built on spec) came with an
Insinkerator (not the septic version) I never put food into it, but some
small things get in there from rinsing dishes and washing pots as DH
never uses the side of the sink where the screen-like strainer is. I
faithfully put a bacteria and enzyme product into my septic every month.
We only use white-single-ply septic rated TP and I hardly ever use
bleach or strong chemicals for cleaning.

Having lived in an RV for 9 years and "carried" my septic tank with me,
I have an appreciation for how waste products are degraded. I try to
treat the bacteria and enzymes living in my septic with respect.<g>

My neighbor grows a huge garden. I keep a covered bucket for peelings
and such and take it over to them as compost. Since we are in the
semi-tropics, he has a use for it all year long.

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Oh pshaw, on Thu 20 Dec 2007 10:58:05a, Janet Wilder meant to say...

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>> Actually, In-Sink-Erator has a newer model specifically designed for
>> use with septic systems. It has an additional component, a small
>> reservoir, that pumps a special enzyme into the grinding chamber while
>> the machine is running. It's supposed to aid in the "digestion" of
>> whatever one might put down the disposal. We have been considering
>> this, but haven't made a decision yet.
>>
>
> I'm on septic, too, but the house (brand new-built on spec) came with an
> Insinkerator (not the septic version) I never put food into it, but some
> small things get in there from rinsing dishes and washing pots as DH
> never uses the side of the sink where the screen-like strainer is. I
> faithfully put a bacteria and enzyme product into my septic every month.
> We only use white-single-ply septic rated TP and I hardly ever use
> bleach or strong chemicals for cleaning.
>
> Having lived in an RV for 9 years and "carried" my septic tank with me,
> I have an appreciation for how waste products are degraded. I try to
> treat the bacteria and enzymes living in my septic with respect.<g>
>
> My neighbor grows a huge garden. I keep a covered bucket for peelings
> and such and take it over to them as compost. Since we are in the
> semi-tropics, he has a use for it all year long.
>

You speak from good experience, Janet.

Thanks...

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Wayne Boatwright wrote:
Yes, there are powdered enqyme products meant for flushing down the
toilet.
> They are supposed to aid in the processing of waste in the septic tank. I
> have heard both pros and cons about using this over in the alt.home.repair
> group.
>

We used bacteria and enzyme products in our RV's black-water holding
tank for many years. It was the most effective (and "earth-friendly) way
to digest human waste. That's why I still use it in the septic system.
So it does work, but you have to be careful not to kill the critters by
using too much bleach or strong cleaning chemicals.

I was careful to not let any food particles get into the kitchen gray
water tank and used a screen in the sink to catch small particles. The
regular strainer baskets are useless.

I use the screen in our house, too.
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Oh pshaw, on Thu 20 Dec 2007 11:07:51a, Janet Wilder meant to say...

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> Yes, there are powdered enqyme products meant for flushing down the
> toilet.
>> They are supposed to aid in the processing of waste in the septic tank.
>> I have heard both pros and cons about using this over in the
>> alt.home.repair group.
>>
>
> We used bacteria and enzyme products in our RV's black-water holding
> tank for many years. It was the most effective (and "earth-friendly) way
> to digest human waste. That's why I still use it in the septic system.
> So it does work, but you have to be careful not to kill the critters by
> using too much bleach or strong cleaning chemicals.
>
> I was careful to not let any food particles get into the kitchen gray
> water tank and used a screen in the sink to catch small particles. The
> regular strainer baskets are useless.
>
> I use the screen in our house, too.

I have screens in both sides of the kitchen sink drains. We don't use much
bleach. I think we will start using the bacteria/enzyme addition in the
near future. Package recommendation is once a month.

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Julie Bove wrote:
> It's a brand new Insinkerator. Not sure how much power it has. The
> disposal itself rarely stops and has to be reset. I had one in one military
> apartment that did this all the time. Took me next to forever to get it
> replaced. What happens with this one is, I will try to put the food down,
> but water just starts backing up into the sink. The disposal grinds, but
> the food just doesn't go down.

Does this happen when you try to run a high volume of water down the
sink (ie emptying a dishpan, drain a large pot of pasta, etc.) and
you're not running the disposal?

On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 13:16:26 GMT, jay > wrote:

>Plumbers love the things. They are pretty much installed in every sink in
>this part of the country if the construction is as recent as about 1975. I
>also have a septic system that does not like sludge. The septic guy loves
>sludge. $$$

My parents had one in their house as early as the '50s. They were on
septic and I don't remember the garbage disposal being a problem. We
used it as much as we needed to.

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Julie Bove wrote:
> Got no room in the yard for a compost pile.

You don't need one. Just put food waste into household garbage and take
it outside. I used a disposal for ages and thought is was the greatest
thing on earth. I wondered how I ever lived without one. Then someone
clued me in about what a disposal sends down the drain and where
disposal waste water goes.

Head slap!!

I had my disposal taken out.

I'm fortunate that I have a garage to keep my garbage cans in. Animals
can't get it and so don't disturb in in there. But that wasn't always
the case and I've done my share of garbage raiding prevention. The
bottom line is that if neighborhood dogs and wild life get to your
garbage, then they get into it. That's life, and cleaning up some strewn
trash is better than overtaxing sewage lines and water purification
plants. Ordinary critters like raccoons don't chew through garbage
containers so they can't get to it that way. In the winter, garbage will
freeze outside but the odor is still perceptible to wild life. If you
can't garage your cans, chain/rope them in place or enclose them in
makeshift fencing (had to do that one place we lived about a decade ago
because the wind was so fond of blowing them away, even when full!!). If
the cans are secured upright it's hard for critters to push them over.

On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 01:32:48 GMT, "Julie Bove" >
wrote:

>Do you have one? Do you use it?

Never had one, never want one... they seem kind of gross to me! Not to
mention a huge waste of water and energy... all that stuff that goes
down the disposal just has to be filtered out again at the waste
disposal center - might as well just put it in the landfill and save
the water and power!

A compost heap is the best answer to disposing of organic waste if
you've got room for it...

Sheldon wrote:
> On Dec 20, 12:00?am, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>> "Mark Thorson" > wrote in message
>>
>> ...
>>
>>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>>>> If the trash pickup just came for the week and there's no room
>>>> left in the freezer (to freeze the trash until next trash
>>>> pickup). ?Corncobs, maybe I can let those slide, but no meat
>>>> products will stay in my trash for more than a 36 hours.
>>
>>> If it were not very much, you can cut it into
>>> little pieces and flush it down the toilet.
>>> I'm so clever! ?:-)
>>
>> In the old days we used to put the food down the toilet.
>> ?Unfortunately, my toilet clogs more frequently than the sink.
>
> Typical renters.

How to win friends and influence people eh Smelly?

On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:23:59 GMT, "Julie Bove" >
wrote:

>
>"Dee.Dee" > wrote in message
...
>
>> How I peel veggies, or prep other food without it falling into the garbage
>> disposal:
>>
>> For peeling vegetables: i.e., carrots, potatoes, some broccoli stems,
>> fish prep, etc.
>>
>> Pull off a bounty towel sheet, place it over the garbage disposal hole.
>> Run a little water on it. It now becomes wet and water will run right
>> through it without a hitch. You can run water if you wish while peeling
>> into the sink without the garbage going down the hole. When you are thru,
>> grab up the corners of the paper towel, give it a squeeze, and dump it in
>> your container.
>
>Thanks! I'll try that.
>
You can buy wire mesh sink strainers that fit in the hole. They come
in different sizes for different needs... shower drain, bathroom sink,
kitchen sink.
https://www.kitchenworksinc.com/intr.../thumb4199.jpg

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On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 09:46:46 GMT, "Paul M. Cook" >
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>
>To sum up everything, a compost pile is your best option. You just dump
>anything organic, save for meat, into the pile and you are rewarded with a
>mulch that is a gift from heaven. You can get these nifty compost bins at
>any garden shop.

How does that work in a high rise?

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On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 04:34:51 -0600, "Andy <q>" <q> wrote:

>Oils get funneled
>from pans, etc., into used gallon water bottles. The rest is wiped up with
>paper towels and tossed into the trash.

Never, ever dispose of oil down a sink unless you love plumbers and
their bills. The first bill I paid after moving into my house was to
have the kitchen sink snaked out.... there was a greasy build up on
the pipes that caused the sink to back up. I installed my garbage
disposal a short time later, never pour grease down the sink and have
lived happily ever after.

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One time on Usenet, "Julie Bove" > said:

> Do you have one? Do you use it?

Yup, use it every couple of days. And I don't fret about where it goes
because I have my own septic system.

> I ask because I have one that I very rarely use. My sink has a tendency to
> clog and every time I use the disposal, I fear that it will clog again.

<snip>

> But I find this hard to believe that I can never use the disposal. I've
> lived in plenty of places and most of them had disposals. I've never had
> problems like this. Except for the time I tried to put the daisies down the
> disposal. I figured they were kind of like salad. But I've also been told
> salad should never go down the disposal either. In fact I tried looking it
> up and found all sorts of conflicting advice on what I should or should not
> put down it.
>
> Any thoughts?

I've had disposals in my last two homes and it's true that there are
certain things one can't grind up well -- artichoke leaves come to
mind. But I've put whole apples and potatoes in mine and it chews them
right up. My sink doesn't clog unless I do something stupid (dumping
an old canister of fiber powder, now that's stupid!).

Honestly, I'm thinking there is something wrong with your plumbing
set up -- it can't handle the disposal. Reminds me of my old house;
the toilet would back up for no apparent reason. Turned out we had
a bend in a line and once it was fixed, no more backups. Which was
good because the bathroom was carpeted (don't ask me)...

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One time on Usenet, said:
> On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 04:34:51 -0600, "Andy <q>" <q> wrote:
>
> >Oils get funneled
> >from pans, etc., into used gallon water bottles. The rest is wiped up with
> >paper towels and tossed into the trash.
>
> Never, ever dispose of oil down a sink unless you love plumbers and
> their bills. The first bill I paid after moving into my house was to
> have the kitchen sink snaked out.... there was a greasy build up on
> the pipes that caused the sink to back up. I installed my garbage
> disposal a short time later, never pour grease down the sink and have
> lived happily ever after.

I keep old grease in a coffee can and throw it out when it gets
full...

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> > best bet was never to put food down it deliberately and to run plenty of hot
> > water down it every day.

You should never run the disposal with hot water.

>
> My garbage disposal manual says I can put chicken bones in it.
> If it can't handle egg shells, then it has a serious problem.
>

Not necessarily - every plumber says not to put egg shells down -
because of the membranes that line the shells. How hard is it to wrap
them in a paper towel and toss them in with the stuff that the garbage
man picks up? Conversely, they are really good in compost, so start a
compost container.

Disposals: Get at least 3/4 h.p. power, or more if you can afford
it. Run LOTS of water when you use it. If you're putting down veggie
bits, etc., use your common sense to parse out the feed, so you aren't
jamming big chunks of everything at once. Use LOTS of water while the
disposal is running, and make sure you run it long enough after you're
done putting stuff in it, to make sure the water is flushing it
through the sewer line. Use LOTS of water. If you're peeling a bunch
of potatoes, or carrots, or anything, put the holey stopper over the
disposal hole in the sink, and when you're done, wrap those things in
a big bunch and put them out with the garbage, or in a compost heap.

Once a month, fill your disposal side of the sink up with cold water
and then pull the plug and let it drain all at once. This helps keep
the line clear. When you use it, use LOTS of water.

Once in a while, throw some ice cubes in it while it's running, and
they will help keep the blades sharp.

I used to have lots of clogs in my kitchen disposal side of the sink,
but no more. And I put almost everything in it, except coffee
grounds, egg shells and anything fibrous, like gobs of celery, etc.

N.

On Dec 19, 8:22 pm, Sqwertz > wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 20:57:30 -0500, Goomba38 wrote:
> > Why would you *want* to put corn cobs and bones in the disposal though?
>
> If the trash pickup just came for the week and there's no room
> left in the freezer (to freeze the trash until next trash
> pickup). Corncobs, maybe I can let those slide, but no meat
> products will stay in my trash for more than a 36 hours.
>
> And I don't generate enough trash to justify trowing out a 1/6th
> full trash bag where the raccoons will get it.
>
> -sw

Don't you have a container outside somewhere to hold stuff until it's
time for a pickup? Even raccoons can be stymied with the properly-
lidded trashcan.

N.

Julie Bove > wrote:

>"Steve Pope" > wrote in message

>> You must have a build-up somewhere in your drain system if
>> problems develop this readily. Have a plumber look at your
>> lateral pipe. Also, query your neighbors to find if they
>> also have drainage problems -- once, the city sewage line
>> that runs down my street was itself clogged. It turned out
>> some individual was routinely flushing disposable diapers
>> in large numbers. That pipe is over a foot in diameter
>> and still it clogged.

>Only one tub clogs. The toilet in that same bathroom clogs. Not the other
>one. Hmmm...

As I learned, a clogged lateral pipe doesn't necessarily affect
all drains equally. The drains in the bathroom closest to
the lateral pipe may back up, but other drains further away
might appear to drain okay because there is a longer drainpipe
between them and the lateral and it takes longer for this
drainpipe to back up.

So if the bathroom that clogs is closest to the lateral, then
the lateral is suspect. Whereas if the drains with the
shortest run to the lateral drain okay, then the lateral is
probably okay.

Steve

On Dec 20, 8:58�am, "Bobo Bonobo(R)" > wrote:
> On Dec 19, 11:00 pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > > On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 20:57:30 -0500, Goomba38 wrote:
>
> > >> Why would you *want* to put corn cobs and bones in the disposal though?
>
> > > If the trash pickup just came for the week and there's no room
> > > left in the freezer (to freeze the trash until next trash
> > > pickup). �Corncobs, maybe I can let those slide, but no meat
> > > products will stay in my trash for more than a 36 hours.
>
> > > And I don't generate enough trash to justify trowing out a 1/6th
> > > full trash bag where the raccoons will get it.
>
> > We have raccoons here. �Which is one reason I'd rather put the food down the
> > sink. �They eat enough of my fresh garden produce. �I don't need them
> > getting in the trash as well!
>
> You have a good opportunity to poison them. �

Too bad your momma missed the opportunity to fish you out with a coat
hanger.

On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 12:49:23 -0800 (PST), Nancy2
> wrote:

>Not necessarily - every plumber says not to put egg shells down -
>because of the membranes that line the shells. How hard is it to wrap
>them in a paper towel and toss them in with the stuff that the garbage
>man picks up?

Are you the kind of person who has a dishwasher, but doesn't use it
because it will wear out? Why bother with a garbage disposal if you
can't even grind up egg shells in it? I've ground up eggshells in
garbage disposals all my life and it has never been a problem.

>Conversely, they are really good in compost, so start a compost container.

I live in a big city and I don't want compost heap.


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<sf> wrote in message ...
> On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 12:49:23 -0800 (PST), Nancy2
> > wrote:
>
>>Not necessarily - every plumber says not to put egg shells down -
>>because of the membranes that line the shells. How hard is it to wrap
>>them in a paper towel and toss them in with the stuff that the garbage
>>man picks up?
>
> Are you the kind of person who has a dishwasher, but doesn't use it
> because it will wear out? Why bother with a garbage disposal if you
> can't even grind up egg shells in it? I've ground up eggshells in
> garbage disposals all my life and it has never been a problem.
>
>>Conversely, they are really good in compost, so start a compost container.
>
> I live in a big city and I don't want compost heap.
>
>
I live rurally; I no want compost heap neither.
;-))
Dee Dee

On Dec 20, 9:12�am, Lou Decruss > wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 05:31:40 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>
>
>
>
>
> > wrote:
> >Oh pshaw, on Wed 19 Dec 2007 06:57:30p, Goomba38 meant to say...
>
> >> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
> >>> Poor Julie! �What a mess to deal with. �We don't currently have a
> >>> garbage disposal because we're on a septic system and having one is ill
> >>> advised. �However, I have had In-Sink-Erator units in the last 4 houses
> >>> I've lived in and never had a clogging problem. �There was very little
> >>> we didn't grind up in it, including small bones, corn cobs...really
> >>> tough stuff. �In 3 of those houses the plumbing was new, the 4th house
> >>> was older. �However, I attribute it to the particular units we had. �If
> >>> the grinding mechanism is doing a good job, there's no really good
> >>> reason for the drain to clog. �Unless, of couse, the drains have a lot
> >>> of build up in them and it makes passing anything but liquid difficult
> >>> to get through.
>
> >> Why would you *want* to put corn cobs and bones in the disposal though?
> >> Tossing them into the garbage would be a lot easier and use less water
> >> and energy (and save that noise) than using the disposal for them.
> >> I have a heavy duty InSink-Erator and yet when it makes more sense to
> >> just scrape things into the trash or composter, that is what I do. And I
> >> do use my disposal often enough. I am just stunned by the things you and
> >> Julie write about here...?
>
> >Believe me, I wish I had a disposal now that I live in AZ. �We don't/won't
> >compost. �We have no need of it. �I have no intention of storing garbage in
> >my freezer until collection day. �
>
> I've never heard of anyone storing garbage in the freezer until now.
> <gasp>

Now you've learned something... freezing is a good way to keep garbage
from stinking until trash pick up day... maybe you only eat fully
prepared foods, haven't you ever cleaned a chicken or fish.

sf wrote:
> > Are you the kind of person who has a dishwasher, but doesn't use it
> because it will wear out?

I love my dishwasher and it is used a lot

Why bother with a garbage disposal if you
> can't even grind up egg shells in it? I've ground up eggshells in
> garbage disposals all my life and it has never been a problem.

took mine out cos it was useless.

>> Conversely, they are really good in compost, so start a compost
>> container.
>
> I live in a big city and I don't want compost heap.

Oh but I lovvvvvvvvve my compost bins................................... <G>

On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 13:35:52 -0800 (PST), Sheldon >
wrote:

>> I've never heard of anyone storing garbage in the freezer until now.
>> <gasp>
>
>Now you've learned something... freezing is a good way to keep garbage
>from stinking until trash pick up day... maybe you only eat fully
>prepared foods, haven't you ever cleaned a chicken or fish.

Yes I've learned something. Hopefully I'll never have to do it. I
have no idea why I find it so odd, but I'll get over it soon.

Lou

On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 11:39:09 -0800, sf wrote:

>On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 09:46:46 GMT, "Paul M. Cook" >
>wrote:
>
>>
>>To sum up everything, a compost pile is your best option. You just dump
>>anything organic, save for meat, into the pile and you are rewarded with a
>>mulch that is a gift from heaven. You can get these nifty compost bins at
>>any garden shop.
>
>How does that work in a high rise?

The last high rise I lived in had a compost bin in the closet next to
the elevator. You open a stainless steel door and dump the material
down a big tube. Somebody else takes care of it from there. <eg>

Lou

On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:47:43 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>This is especially true if your plumbing itself is suspect.

All plumbing is suspect if it's abused. A sink is not a garbage can.
The things I'm reading people put down there amaze me. And yes, I
have one. It's fine for rinsing dishes, but that's about it. I even
have oversized waste pipes and I still won't use the thing as a trash
can

Lou

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> sf wrote:
>> > Are you the kind of person who has a dishwasher, but doesn't use it
>> because it will wear out?
>
> I love my dishwasher and it is used a lot
>
> Why bother with a garbage disposal if you
>> can't even grind up egg shells in it? I've ground up eggshells in
>> garbage disposals all my life and it has never been a problem.
>
> took mine out cos it was useless.
>
>>> Conversely, they are really good in compost, so start a compost
>>> container.
>>
>> I live in a big city and I don't want compost heap.
>
> Oh but I lovvvvvvvvve my compost bins...................................
> <G>

When you sell the house, will they go with the house?
That should be a check-off in the listing.
"Compost bins in progress." ;-))
Dee Dee

On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 13:22:21 -0800, sf wrote:

>On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 12:49:23 -0800 (PST), Nancy2
> wrote:
>
>>Not necessarily - every plumber says not to put egg shells down -
>>because of the membranes that line the shells. How hard is it to wrap
>>them in a paper towel and toss them in with the stuff that the garbage
>>man picks up?
>
>Are you the kind of person who has a dishwasher, but doesn't use it
>because it will wear out? Why bother with a garbage disposal if you
>can't even grind up egg shells in it? I've ground up eggshells in
>garbage disposals all my life and it has never been a problem.

Egg shells do not break down well. I can still find large pieces of
egg shell in my compost a couple of years later. You do not want that
in the septic tank. In city sewer lines, go ahead.

>
>>Conversely, they are really good in compost, so start a compost container.
>
>I live in a big city and I don't want compost heap.
--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

sf wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:23:59 GMT, "Julie Bove" >
> wrote:
>
>> "Dee.Dee" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> How I peel veggies, or prep other food without it falling into the garbage
>>> disposal:
>>>
>>> For peeling vegetables: i.e., carrots, potatoes, some broccoli stems,
>>> fish prep, etc.
>>>
>>> Pull off a bounty towel sheet, place it over the garbage disposal hole.
>>> Run a little water on it. It now becomes wet and water will run right
>>> through it without a hitch. You can run water if you wish while peeling
>>> into the sink without the garbage going down the hole. When you are thru,
>>> grab up the corners of the paper towel, give it a squeeze, and dump it in
>>> your container.
>> Thanks! I'll try that.
>>
> You can buy wire mesh sink strainers that fit in the hole. They come
> in different sizes for different needs... shower drain, bathroom sink,
> kitchen sink.
> https://www.kitchenworksinc.com/intr.../thumb4199.jpg
>

Dollar stores have them, too.

--
Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life

Little Malice wrote:

>
> I keep old grease in a coffee can and throw it out when it gets
> full...
>

Same here. DH tapes it with duct tape before putting it in the trash.

A good drain cleaner that doesn't hurt anything is some baking soda in
the drain followed by some white vinegar. It foams up. When the foaming
stops, run the hot water for a while.

--
Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life

"Dave Smith" > wrote

> Plunging usually works well enough. It helps to have someone helping by
> holding a rag or a sponge over the overflow to make sure the pressure and
> suction of the plunger. Otherwise, most of the effort is wasted on pushing
> air back and forth through those openings, not to mention preventing that
> goop that is clogging your lines from spraying out through the openings.

If my tub clog is being especially stubborn, I duct tape over
the overflow thing. A complete seal. Works like a champ.

nancy

On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:06:35 GMT, Lou Decruss > wrote:

>On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 10:02:32 -0500, "Dee.Dee" >
>wrote:
>
>>
>>"Lou Decruss" > wrote in message
. ..
>>.
>>>
>>> I've never heard of anyone storing garbage in the freezer until now.
>>> <gasp>
>>>
>>> Lou
>>
>>
>>I'd rather put garbage under freezing conditions than put it in an open
>>container in cupboards.
>
>Looks like I'm in the minority here. Oh well. I'm still not going to
>start doing it.
>
>Lou

i can see it under some circumstances. but flushing it down the
toilet still sounds nutty to me.

but then, i live in a large apartment building, so down the chute and
i don't think about it too much after that.

your pal,
blake

Sheldon wrote:
>
> On Dec 20, 12:00�am, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> > "Mark Thorson" > wrote in message
> >
> > > If it were not very much, you can cut it into
> > > little pieces and flush it down the toilet.
> > > I'm so clever! :-)
> >
> > In the old days we used to put the food down the toilet.
> > Unfortunately, my toilet clogs more frequently than the sink.
>
> Typical renters.

Typical landlord attitude.