Oh pshaw, on Thu 20 Dec 2007 04:34:05p, blake murphy meant to say...

> On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:06:35 GMT, Lou Decruss > wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 10:02:32 -0500, "Dee.Dee" >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Lou Decruss" > wrote in message
... .
>>>>
>>>> I've never heard of anyone storing garbage in the freezer until now.
>>>> <gasp>
>>>>
>>>> Lou
>>>
>>>
>>>I'd rather put garbage under freezing conditions than put it in an open
>>>container in cupboards.
>>
>>Looks like I'm in the minority here. Oh well. I'm still not going to
>>start doing it.
>>
>>Lou
>
> i can see it under some circumstances. but flushing it down the
> toilet still sounds nutty to me.
>
> but then, i live in a large apartment building, so down the chute and
> i don't think about it too much after that.
>
> your pal,
> blake
>
>

You would if you were at the other end of the shute! :-)

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On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 23:34:05 GMT, blake murphy >
wrote:

>On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:06:35 GMT, Lou Decruss > wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 10:02:32 -0500, "Dee.Dee" >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Lou Decruss" > wrote in message
...
>>>.
>>>>
>>>> I've never heard of anyone storing garbage in the freezer until now.
>>>> <gasp>
>>>>
>>>> Lou
>>>
>>>
>>>I'd rather put garbage under freezing conditions than put it in an open
>>>container in cupboards.
>>
>>Looks like I'm in the minority here. Oh well. I'm still not going to
>>start doing it.
>>
>>Lou
>
>i can see it under some circumstances. but flushing it down the
>toilet still sounds nutty to me.

No kidding!!! Chopping up corn cobs to flush them down the toilet
was just a bit over the top.
>
>but then, i live in a large apartment building, so down the chute and
>i don't think about it too much after that.

When I was living in high and mid rise places I never gave it a
thought. I also never used the disposal.


Lou

"Nancy2" > wrote in message
...
>> > best bet was never to put food down it deliberately and to run plenty
>> > of hot
>> > water down it every day.
>
> You should never run the disposal with hot water.
Correct
>
> Disposals: Get at least 3/4 h.p. power, or more if you can afford
> it. Run LOTS of water when you use it. If you're putting down veggie
> bits, etc., use your common sense to parse out the feed, so you aren't
> jamming big chunks of everything at once. Use LOTS of water while the
> disposal is running, and make sure you run it long enough after you're
> done putting stuff in it, to make sure the water is flushing it
> through the sewer line. Use LOTS of water.
snip
> N.
You are not running the water to merely get the foodstuff through the
disposal, but to run it through the line. So, visualize -- how far is it
from your disposal to the place where the water gets into the sewer line?
Run the water long enough to get that far. If you don't, you end up
leaving goop in the plumbing lines where it begins to adhere to the pipe
walls.
Janet

On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:28:59 -0700, "Janet B." >
wrote:

>You are not running the water to merely get the foodstuff through the
>disposal, but to run it through the line. So, visualize -- how far is it
>from your disposal to the place where the water gets into the sewer line?
>Run the water long enough to get that far. If you don't, you end up
>leaving goop in the plu


Tell that to my hubby. We have an ongoing argument about how long to
run the water while grinding in the disposer. He turns it off
immediately after the grinding sounds clear and IMO, he doesn't even
wait that long. He flips it on and off, turns off the water
immediately. I favor letting it run and keeping the water on to
flush. I can't tell you how many times he's rushed into the kitchen
to turn everything off when I'm on garbage duty.

Oh, yes.... he's another "It'll wear out/break" so we shouldn't use it
person. Well, no wonder! What he's doing *will* hasten its demise,
but I'm banging my head against a brick wall with that.

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"cybercat" wrote:
> "jay" wrote
> >>Lou Decruss wrote:
>
> >> I've never heard of anyone storing garbage in the freezer until now.
> >> <gasp>
>
> > I save seafood stinky in the freezer for garbage
> > day in the summer. �We only get a pick up once a week and
> > if it goes in the can outside you can smell it a block away in
> > no time.
>
> I think it's a great idea.

To stop the stink... that's why someone oughta shove you in the
freezer... or at least shove a block of dry ice in your crotch. LOL

SHELDON

sf wrote:
> jay wrote:
> >Plumbers love the things. �They are pretty much installed in every sink in
> >this part of the country if the construction is as recent as about 1975. �I
> > also have a septic system that does not like sludge. �
> > The septic guy loves sludge. �$$$
>
> My parents had one in their house as early as the '50s. �They were on
> septic and I don't remember the garbage disposal being a
> problem. �We used it as much as we needed to.


Sure... Cybercrap's garbage disposal:
http://www.flushmate.com/Supercharged%20Poster.pdf

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahaha. . . .


SHELDON

Sheldon wrote:
> "cybercat" wrote:
>> "jay" wrote
>>>> Lou Decruss wrote:
>>>> I've never heard of anyone storing garbage in the freezer until now.
>>>> <gasp>
>>> I save seafood stinky in the freezer for garbage
>>> day in the summer. �We only get a pick up once a week and
>>> if it goes in the can outside you can smell it a block away in
>>> no time.
>> I think it's a great idea.
>
> To stop the stink... that's why someone oughta shove you in the
> freezer... or at least shove a block of dry ice in your crotch. LOL
>
> SHELDON

You don't *have* to be an asshole, Shelly.

"Lou Decruss" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:47:43 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
>>This is especially true if your plumbing itself is suspect.
>
> All plumbing is suspect if it's abused. A sink is not a garbage can.
> The things I'm reading people put down there amaze me. And yes, I
> have one. It's fine for rinsing dishes, but that's about it. I even
> have oversized waste pipes and I still won't use the thing as a trash
> can
>
> Lou

"Lou Decruss" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:47:43 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
>>This is especially true if your plumbing itself is suspect.
>
> All plumbing is suspect if it's abused. A sink is not a garbage can.
> The things I'm reading people put down there amaze me. And yes, I
> have one. It's fine for rinsing dishes, but that's about it. I even
> have oversized waste pipes and I still won't use the thing as a trash
> can
>
> Lou

Were the oversized waste pipes there when you bought the house? A new
house -- a re-modeled kitchen?
I've never heard about ones being oversized, so am curious.
Thanks.
Dee Dee

"Janet Wilder" > wrote
> A good drain cleaner that doesn't hurt anything is some baking soda in the
> drain followed by some white vinegar. It foams up. When the foaming stops,
> run the hot water for a while.
>

I never heard of this, I'll try it. Thanks!

On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:57:08 -0800 (PST), Sheldon >
wrote:

>http://www.flushmate.com/Supercharged%20Poster.pdf

Turbo charged? That's a toilet for a man's man.... not a delicate
southern flower like cybercat.

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Sqwertz wrote:

>
> You just don't throw away food 3-7 days early in the Texas heat.
> Plain and simple.

I do. The can is outside and the lid is closed. We don't smell it. It's
the trash company's can. I let them worry about it.

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<sf> wrote in message ...

> You can buy wire mesh sink strainers that fit in the hole. They come
> in different sizes for different needs... shower drain, bathroom sink,
> kitchen sink.
> https://www.kitchenworksinc.com/intr.../thumb4199.jpg

I have them.

"Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
...

> If you have a garden, why not compost the vegetable-based trash?

Because I have no place for a compost heap.

"Pennyaline" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote:
> > It's a brand new Insinkerator. Not sure how much power it has. The
>> disposal itself rarely stops and has to be reset. I had one in one
>> military apartment that did this all the time. Took me next to forever
>> to get it replaced. What happens with this one is, I will try to put the
>> food down, but water just starts backing up into the sink. The disposal
>> grinds, but the food just doesn't go down.
>
> Does this happen when you try to run a high volume of water down the sink
> (ie emptying a dishpan, drain a large pot of pasta, etc.) and you're not
> running the disposal?

No.

"Pennyaline" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>> Got no room in the yard for a compost pile.
>
> You don't need one. Just put food waste into household garbage and take it
> outside. I used a disposal for ages and thought is was the greatest thing
> on earth. I wondered how I ever lived without one. Then someone clued me
> in about what a disposal sends down the drain and where disposal waste
> water goes.

The problem is, they don't want food in the garbage. And it tends to fill
up the can. My parent's garbage company will not allow food in the trash.
It must go in with the yard waste. I put some food in our yard waste. They
will take excess produce.
>
> Head slap!!
>
> I had my disposal taken out.
>
> I'm fortunate that I have a garage to keep my garbage cans in. Animals
> can't get it and so don't disturb in in there. But that wasn't always the
> case and I've done my share of garbage raiding prevention. The bottom line
> is that if neighborhood dogs and wild life get to your garbage, then they
> get into it. That's life, and cleaning up some strewn trash is better than
> overtaxing sewage lines and water purification plants. Ordinary critters
> like raccoons don't chew through garbage containers so they can't get to
> it that way. In the winter, garbage will freeze outside but the odor is
> still perceptible to wild life. If you can't garage your cans, chain/rope
> them in place or enclose them in makeshift fencing (had to do that one
> place we lived about a decade ago because the wind was so fond of blowing
> them away, even when full!!). If the cans are secured upright it's hard
> for critters to push them over.

We have a garage but I'm not sure I'd want to keep the garbage cans in
there. I'd think that would stink.

Oh pshaw, on Thu 20 Dec 2007 10:15:00p, Julie Bove meant to say...

>
> "Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> If you have a garden, why not compost the vegetable-based trash?
>
> Because I have no place for a compost heap.
>
>
>

Unused corner of a bedroom closet? :-))

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"cybercat" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Janet Wilder" > wrote
>> A good drain cleaner that doesn't hurt anything is some baking soda in
>> the drain followed by some white vinegar. It foams up. When the foaming
>> stops, run the hot water for a while.
>>
>
> I never heard of this, I'll try it. Thanks!

I tried it. Worked once but then didn't work at all.

"Little Malice" > wrote in message
...
> One time on Usenet, "Julie Bove" > said:
>
>> Do you have one? Do you use it?
>
> Yup, use it every couple of days. And I don't fret about where it goes
> because I have my own septic system.

> I've had disposals in my last two homes and it's true that there are
> certain things one can't grind up well -- artichoke leaves come to
> mind. But I've put whole apples and potatoes in mine and it chews them
> right up. My sink doesn't clog unless I do something stupid (dumping
> an old canister of fiber powder, now that's stupid!).
>
They did say there was something wrong with the way the plumbing went in but
I couldn't quite follow it. I've learned I can't put in whole apples,
oranges, pears, etc. They get stuck in there and then I have to ram a fork
down, try to spear them and bring them back up. It does seem to work if
they are cut in pieces, but I try not to put them down, just in case.

> Honestly, I'm thinking there is something wrong with your plumbing
> set up -- it can't handle the disposal. Reminds me of my old house;
> the toilet would back up for no apparent reason. Turned out we had
> a bend in a line and once it was fixed, no more backups. Which was
> good because the bathroom was carpeted (don't ask me)...

Aha! I have carpet in part of my bathroom. Just inside the door. Luckily
not near the toilet. I've never had it flood the floor. I just have to be
careful.

"Nancy2" > wrote in message
...
>> > best bet was never to put food down it deliberately and to run plenty
>> > of hot
>> > water down it every day.
>
> You should never run the disposal with hot water.

No, no. Just run the hot water down the sink.
>
>>
>> My garbage disposal manual says I can put chicken bones in it.
>> If it can't handle egg shells, then it has a serious problem.
>>
>
> Not necessarily - every plumber says not to put egg shells down -
> because of the membranes that line the shells. How hard is it to wrap
> them in a paper towel and toss them in with the stuff that the garbage
> man picks up? Conversely, they are really good in compost, so start a
> compost container.

I once tried making fertilzer out of coffee grounds, tea bags and egg
shells. Killed all my house plants!
>
> Disposals: Get at least 3/4 h.p. power, or more if you can afford
> it. Run LOTS of water when you use it. If you're putting down veggie
> bits, etc., use your common sense to parse out the feed, so you aren't
> jamming big chunks of everything at once. Use LOTS of water while the
> disposal is running, and make sure you run it long enough after you're
> done putting stuff in it, to make sure the water is flushing it
> through the sewer line. Use LOTS of water. If you're peeling a bunch
> of potatoes, or carrots, or anything, put the holey stopper over the
> disposal hole in the sink, and when you're done, wrap those things in
> a big bunch and put them out with the garbage, or in a compost heap.

Okay.
>
> Once a month, fill your disposal side of the sink up with cold water
> and then pull the plug and let it drain all at once. This helps keep
> the line clear. When you use it, use LOTS of water.

I didn't know that.
>
> Once in a while, throw some ice cubes in it while it's running, and
> they will help keep the blades sharp.

That's what I thought, but the plumber told me it wasn't true.
>
> I used to have lots of clogs in my kitchen disposal side of the sink,
> but no more. And I put almost everything in it, except coffee
> grounds, egg shells and anything fibrous, like gobs of celery, etc.

Interesting.

"Steve Pope" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove > wrote:
>
>>"Steve Pope" > wrote in message
>
>>> You must have a build-up somewhere in your drain system if
>>> problems develop this readily. Have a plumber look at your
>>> lateral pipe. Also, query your neighbors to find if they
>>> also have drainage problems -- once, the city sewage line
>>> that runs down my street was itself clogged. It turned out
>>> some individual was routinely flushing disposable diapers
>>> in large numbers. That pipe is over a foot in diameter
>>> and still it clogged.
>
>>Only one tub clogs. The toilet in that same bathroom clogs. Not the
>>other
>>one. Hmmm...
>
> As I learned, a clogged lateral pipe doesn't necessarily affect
> all drains equally. The drains in the bathroom closest to
> the lateral pipe may back up, but other drains further away
> might appear to drain okay because there is a longer drainpipe
> between them and the lateral and it takes longer for this
> drainpipe to back up.
>
> So if the bathroom that clogs is closest to the lateral, then
> the lateral is suspect. Whereas if the drains with the
> shortest run to the lateral drain okay, then the lateral is
> probably okay.

Aha. Well, our house was remodeled and the clogging toilet is the newer
one.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
news:53Iaj.9727$L91.9250@trndny05...
>
> "> We have a garage but I'm not sure I'd want to keep the garbage cans in
> there. I'd think that would stink.


When we moved to Marin County and lived in Kentfield - which is considered
upscale by some -- I wasn't there a week before a neighbor put a note on my
garbage can, "We live in a nice neighborhood, we don't leave garbage cans
out where our neighbors can see them."

Meanwhile this Dr. Jerk who lived next door has the old classic "wreck of a"
car parks behind my garage and swears it's his property (my driveway) and
he would never move it for 8 years. His son, who said his friend could
leave a car jacked up so that I couldn't get out of the garage when I asked
him to move the extra car said I should back my car in so I could drive out
forward; when I said that I wouldn't do that, he said, "You're just like
all the rest of the Americans." When we sold our house to an attorney, I
noticed that the car was gone, but damned fast!

When I hear about garbage cans being left in garages, versus outdoors, that
still gets my dander up. Some people think their ... doesn't/don't stink!

Dee Dee

Oh pshaw, on Thu 20 Dec 2007 10:36:25p, Dee.Dee meant to say...

>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> news:53Iaj.9727$L91.9250@trndny05...
>>
>> "> We have a garage but I'm not sure I'd want to keep the garbage cans
>> in there. I'd think that would stink.
>
>
> When we moved to Marin County and lived in Kentfield - which is
> considered upscale by some -- I wasn't there a week before a neighbor
> put a note on my garbage can, "We live in a nice neighborhood, we don't
> leave garbage cans out where our neighbors can see them."
>
> Meanwhile this Dr. Jerk who lived next door has the old classic "wreck
> of a" car parks behind my garage and swears it's his property (my
> driveway) and he would never move it for 8 years. His son, who said his
> friend could leave a car jacked up so that I couldn't get out of the
> garage when I asked him to move the extra car said I should back my car
> in so I could drive out forward; when I said that I wouldn't do that, he
> said, "You're just like all the rest of the Americans." When we sold
> our house to an attorney, I noticed that the car was gone, but damned
> fast!
>
> When I hear about garbage cans being left in garages, versus outdoors,
> that still gets my dander up. Some people think their ... doesn't/don't
> stink!
>
> Dee Dee
>
>
>

It is against city code to leave refuse containers where they are visible
from the front of the property. Neighbors have nothing to do with it.

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Date: Thursday, December 20th,2007

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"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
3.184...
> Oh pshaw, on Thu 20 Dec 2007 10:36:25p, Dee.Dee meant to say...
>
>>
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> news:53Iaj.9727$L91.9250@trndny05...
>>>
>>> "> We have a garage but I'm not sure I'd want to keep the garbage cans
>>> in there. I'd think that would stink.
>>
>>
>> When we moved to Marin County and lived in Kentfield - which is
>> considered upscale by some -- I wasn't there a week before a neighbor
>> put a note on my garbage can, "We live in a nice neighborhood, we don't
>> leave garbage cans out where our neighbors can see them."
>>
>> Meanwhile this Dr. Jerk who lived next door has the old classic "wreck
>> of a" car parks behind my garage and swears it's his property (my
>> driveway) and he would never move it for 8 years. His son, who said his
>> friend could leave a car jacked up so that I couldn't get out of the
>> garage when I asked him to move the extra car said I should back my car
>> in so I could drive out forward; when I said that I wouldn't do that, he
>> said, "You're just like all the rest of the Americans." When we sold
>> our house to an attorney, I noticed that the car was gone, but damned
>> fast!
>>
>> When I hear about garbage cans being left in garages, versus outdoors,
>> that still gets my dander up. Some people think their ... doesn't/don't
>> stink!
>>
>> Dee Dee
>>
>>
>>
>
> It is against city code to leave refuse containers where they are visible
> from the front of the property. Neighbors have nothing to do with it.
>
> --
> Wayne Boatwright



The neighbors had plenty to do with it in this case.

It would have been a nice welcome to say hello; advising me of the code,
instead of leaving me a note on my garbage can.
Yes, you might say that I should have known the code! Give me a break!

That I realized was more than I could expect from this particular uppity
neighborhood. They did invite me to a party the first week even before I
got settled, and it turned out be a special party for a quite well-know
politician -- picture even in the news today.

We were all professionals, so we didn't have to have much to do with each
other we were so busy, so I guess it wasn't too bad. Our houses were very
private. (other than the garbage cans).

Dee Dee

Oh pshaw, on Thu 20 Dec 2007 11:07:31p, Dee.Dee meant to say...

>
> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message

>>
>> It is against city code to leave refuse containers where they are
>> visible from the front of the property. Neighbors have nothing to do
>> with it.
>>
>> --
>> Wayne Boatwright
>
>
>
> The neighbors had plenty to do with it in this case.
>
> It would have been a nice welcome to say hello; advising me of the
> code,
> instead of leaving me a note on my garbage can.
> Yes, you might say that I should have known the code! Give me a break!

Your case may have had nothing to do with a code, just the neighbors.

> That I realized was more than I could expect from this particular uppity
> neighborhood. They did invite me to a party the first week even before
> I got settled, and it turned out be a special party for a quite
> well-know politician -- picture even in the news today.
>
> We were all professionals, so we didn't have to have much to do with
> each other we were so busy, so I guess it wasn't too bad. Our houses
> were very private. (other than the garbage cans).

Sometimes that's better!

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Date: Thursday, December 20th,2007

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"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
3.184...
> Oh pshaw, on Thu 20 Dec 2007 10:15:00p, Julie Bove meant to say...
>
>>
>> "Janet Wilder" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> If you have a garden, why not compost the vegetable-based trash?
>>
>> Because I have no place for a compost heap.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Unused corner of a bedroom closet? :-))

I don't even have that. Whoever designed my closets was an idiot. They are
about 2" deeper than a clothes hanger.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 05:22:03 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>> Oh pshaw, on Thu 20 Dec 2007 10:15:00p, Julie Bove meant to say...
>>
>>> Because I have no place for a compost heap.
>>
>> Unused corner of a bedroom closet? :-))
>
> How about earthworm composting. It's become a new fad at
> feel-good offices where workers keep a bin of worms in the
> breakroom, by the water cooler, or even under their desks.
>
> http://www.wormdigest.org/content/view/326/2/

Eeeeeeeeew.

"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
3.184...
> Oh pshaw, on Thu 20 Dec 2007 10:36:25p, Dee.Dee meant to say...
>
>>
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> news:53Iaj.9727$L91.9250@trndny05...
>>>
>>> "> We have a garage but I'm not sure I'd want to keep the garbage cans
>>> in there. I'd think that would stink.
>>
>>
>> When we moved to Marin County and lived in Kentfield - which is
>> considered upscale by some -- I wasn't there a week before a neighbor
>> put a note on my garbage can, "We live in a nice neighborhood, we don't
>> leave garbage cans out where our neighbors can see them."
>>
>> Meanwhile this Dr. Jerk who lived next door has the old classic "wreck
>> of a" car parks behind my garage and swears it's his property (my
>> driveway) and he would never move it for 8 years. His son, who said his
>> friend could leave a car jacked up so that I couldn't get out of the
>> garage when I asked him to move the extra car said I should back my car
>> in so I could drive out forward; when I said that I wouldn't do that, he
>> said, "You're just like all the rest of the Americans." When we sold
>> our house to an attorney, I noticed that the car was gone, but damned
>> fast!
>>
>> When I hear about garbage cans being left in garages, versus outdoors,
>> that still gets my dander up. Some people think their ... doesn't/don't
>> stink!
>>
>> Dee Dee
>>
>>
>>
>
> It is against city code to leave refuse containers where they are visible
> from the front of the property. Neighbors have nothing to do with it.

My next door neighbor always leaves his cans by the street. We have an area
for them behind our fence but they are usually not there. We tend to keep
them in the driveway, right in front of the garage door. Since one of our
vehicles is usually parked there, they're not highly visible from the
street.

One time on Usenet, Sqwertz > said:
> On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:42:22 GMT, Little Malice wrote:
>
> > My sink doesn't clog unless I do something stupid (dumping
> > an old canister of fiber powder, now that's stupid!).
>
> <snork> That WOULD be stupid. Psyllium husks swell up and acts
> like glue. Great for intestines, but not for pipes.

I know, I know. I really don't know what I was thinking. It took DH an
hour to clear it out. And IIRC, it was right before Christmas...

--
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Dee.Dee wrote:
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>> sf wrote:
>>>> Are you the kind of person who has a dishwasher, but doesn't use
>>>> it because it will wear out?
>>
>> I love my dishwasher and it is used a lot
>>
>> Why bother with a garbage disposal if you
>>> can't even grind up egg shells in it? I've ground up eggshells in
>>> garbage disposals all my life and it has never been a problem.
>>
>> took mine out cos it was useless.
>>
>>>> Conversely, they are really good in compost, so start a compost
>>>> container.
>>>
>>> I live in a big city and I don't want compost heap.
>>
>> Oh but I lovvvvvvvvve my compost
>> bins................................... <G>
>
> When you sell the house, will they go with the house?
> That should be a check-off in the listing.
> "Compost bins in progress." ;-))

LOL I never thought of that

Mark Thorson wrote:
> Sheldon wrote:
>>
>> On Dec 20, 12:00�am, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>>> "Mark Thorson" > wrote in message
>>>
>>>> If it were not very much, you can cut it into
>>>> little pieces and flush it down the toilet.
>>>> I'm so clever! :-)
>>>
>>> In the old days we used to put the food down the toilet.
>>> Unfortunately, my toilet clogs more frequently than the sink.
>>
>> Typical renters.
>
> Typical landlord attitude.

<G>

"Dee.Dee" > wrote

> When we moved to Marin County and lived in Kentfield - which is considered
> upscale by some -- I wasn't there a week before a neighbor put a note on
> my garbage can, "We live in a nice neighborhood, we don't leave garbage
> cans out where our neighbors can see them."

Haha, that's funny. We keep our garbage cans out of sight, too. They
aren't exactly decorative. I didn't put a sign on your garbage cans,
though.
If I was going to do that, I'd put a sign on the cans across the street.
Bring in your friggin garbage cans once they're empty! So annoying,
they leave them out for days sometimes.

> Meanwhile this Dr. Jerk who lived next door has the old classic "wreck of
> a" car parks behind my garage and swears it's his property (my driveway)
> and he would never move it for 8 years. His son, who said his friend
> could leave a car jacked up so that I couldn't get out of the garage when
> I asked him to move the extra car said I should back my car in so I could
> drive out forward; when I said that I wouldn't do that, he said, "You're
> just like all the rest of the Americans." When we sold our house to an
> attorney, I noticed that the car was gone, but damned fast!

That's some story! I'm amazed you let them get away with that.
You're nice.

> When I hear about garbage cans being left in garages, versus outdoors,
> that still gets my dander up. Some people think their ... doesn't/don't
> stink!

My garbage might or might not stink, but no one should get close enough
to it to find out, aside from the garbage man. In some towns, the garbage
is picked up from the back yard because the town doesn't want anyone to
see the cans. I'd like that.

nancy

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:33:36 -0600, Janet Wilder wrote:
>
>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> You just don't throw away food 3-7 days early in the Texas heat.
>>> Plain and simple.
>>
>> I do. The can is outside and the lid is closed. We don't smell it. It's
>> the trash company's can. I let them worry about it.
>
> Until the bags swell up and burst, spreading germs and stinky
> liquid goo all over the inside of the trash can, which the City
> doesn't wash out for you. Not to mention those black turkeys
> flying in circles over the house.
>
> No thanks.
>

Damn, Steve, how long is it between garbage pickups?

"Nancy Young" > wrote :
>
> My garbage might or might not stink, but no one should get close enough
> to it to find out, aside from the garbage man. In some towns, the garbage
> is picked up from the back yard because the town doesn't want anyone to
> see the cans. I'd like that.
>

If you leave them out in Raleigh for over 24 hours after pickup you get
fined.

"Nancy2" > wrote in message
...
>> > best bet was never to put food down it deliberately and to run plenty
>> > of hot
>> > water down it every day.
>
> You should never run the disposal with hot water.

Why?

"Little Malice" > wrote
> I keep old grease in a coffee can and throw it out when it gets
> full...
>

A time-honored tradition of my mom's.

"Pennyaline" > wrote :

> You don't need one. Just put food waste into household garbage and take it
> outside. I used a disposal for ages and thought is was the greatest thing
> on earth. I wondered how I ever lived without one. Then someone clued me
> in about what a disposal sends down the drain and where disposal waste
> water goes.
>
> Head slap!!
>

Yes, this is the thing.

On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:20:41 -0500, "Dee.Dee" >
wrote:

>
>"Lou Decruss" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:47:43 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>This is especially true if your plumbing itself is suspect.
>>
>> All plumbing is suspect if it's abused. A sink is not a garbage can.
>> The things I'm reading people put down there amaze me. And yes, I
>> have one. It's fine for rinsing dishes, but that's about it. I even
>> have oversized waste pipes and I still won't use the thing as a trash
>> can
>>
>> Lou
>
>Were the oversized waste pipes there when you bought the house? A new
>house -- a re-modeled kitchen?
>I've never heard about ones being oversized, so am curious.
>Thanks.
>Dee Dee

It was all there. These are at our cottage. I'm not a plumber but
sink drain sizes are 1 1/4", 1 1/2", and 2" Everything is 2" and
copper. Even the ejector pump is piped in copper. I was amazed when
I saw the plumbing. All the supply lines are 3/4" copper except the
sillcocks which were added later. I've never checked, but you could
probably flush all 3 toilets and not effect someone in the shower.
I'm sure the system could handle some abuse, but there's not way in
hell I'm putting corn cobs in it. I believe if I take care of the
things I have they will take care of me. The easiest way to fix
something is to not break it.

Lou

On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 09:54:29 -0500, "cybercat" >
wrote:

>
>"Little Malice" > wrote
>> I keep old grease in a coffee can and throw it out when it gets
>> full...
>>
>
>A time-honored tradition of my mom's.
>
I thought everyone did that. I use smaller cans, but they are still
cans.

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On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 05:48:45 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>It is against city code to leave refuse containers where they are visible
>from the front of the property. Neighbors have nothing to do with it.

not here

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