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Goomba38 wrote:
> Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 13:25:15 -0600, Janet Wilder wrote:
>>
>>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 09:19:35 -0500, cybercat wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Damn, Steve, how long is it between garbage pickups?
>>>> 7 days. Which is 5 days too many 10 months out of the year in
>>>> Texas.
>>> My pick up is weekly, too, and I'm betting I'm way farther south than
>>> you are (RGV-Harlingen). Closest neighbor has a big family so the
>>> trash company gave him a dumpster that he leaves at the bottom of the
>>> long access road to his house. No birds. No coyotes. No feral dogs or
>>> cats. Jack rabbits can't jump *that* high.

>>
>> Well, I guess you just like the stink that accumulates in your
>> trash can, then. It's a strange fetish, but I can respect that.
>>
>> -sw

>
> I live in the hottest, most humid part of Georgia and because we're not
> a big family we opted for once a week trash pick up service. The roll
> can (sort of a big dumpster on wheels) doesn't seem to attract wildlife
> nor do you smell anything with the lid shut. While dumping stuff into it
> you might notice odor but once you shut the lid you don't notice
> anything malodorous. It just isn't an issue.


Exactly the situation here.

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On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 18:18:00 GMT, blake murphy >
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>On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 11:39:09 -0800, sf wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 09:46:46 GMT, "Paul M. Cook" >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>To sum up everything, a compost pile is your best option. You just dump
>>>anything organic, save for meat, into the pile and you are rewarded with a
>>>mulch that is a gift from heaven. You can get these nifty compost bins at
>>>any garden shop.

>>
>>How does that work in a high rise?

>
>in a high-rise you just throw garbage out the window.


That's exactly what they do in the housing projects. Freekin pigs.

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On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 01:04:16 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
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>We used to use Crisco cans before they started making them out of
>cardboard.


Crisco comes in cardboard now???? OH, man... I'm behind the times.

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Oh pshaw, on Fri 21 Dec 2007 09:47:06p, meant to say...

> On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 01:04:16 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
>>We used to use Crisco cans before they started making them out of
>>cardboard.

>
> Crisco comes in cardboard now???? OH, man... I'm behind the times.
>


Way behind the times, Barbara. It's probably been 12-15 years now.

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"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote

> Oh pshaw, on Fri 21 Dec 2007 04:50:01p, cybercat meant to say...


>> <sf> wrote in message ...
>>> On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 09:54:29 -0500, "cybercat" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Little Malice" > wrote
>>>>> I keep old grease in a coffee can and throw it out when it gets
>>>>> full...


>>>>A time-honored tradition of my mom's.
>>>>
>>> I thought everyone did that. I use smaller cans, but they are still
>>> cans.
>>>

>> It might be a Time-honored tradition of EVERYone's mom.


> We used to use Crisco cans before they started making them out of
> cardboard.


In my house it was frozen orange juice cans.

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On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 19:40:22 -0500, Goomba38 >
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>I recall one house when I was growing up the garbage men came way up to
>the house from the street and grabbed the cans, hauled them down to the
>street and then returned them to the house where they sat on the side of
>the garage. The homeowners didn't have to do anything ever but dump
>their trash in. We have to roll our huge cans up to the curb nowadays.


We have 20 feet, then we're charged. The place I keep my "cans" is
just out of the limit. We comply with the rules 99% of the time, so
on days we don't (due to extenuating circumstances), the garbage man
gets it with no extra charge - thank goodness.

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On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 04:54:56 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
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>Oh pshaw, on Fri 21 Dec 2007 09:47:06p, meant to say...
>
>> On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 01:04:16 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>We used to use Crisco cans before they started making them out of
>>>cardboard.

>>
>> Crisco comes in cardboard now???? OH, man... I'm behind the times.
>>

>
>Way behind the times, Barbara. It's probably been 12-15 years now.


ARE YOU KIDDING??? I know I've bought it in the last 5 years or so
and it was in a can. LOL. Does it come in a lard-like container
now? Maybe us Westerners are in the backwaters of commercial
packaging.

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Oh pshaw, on Fri 21 Dec 2007 10:10:52p, meant to say...

> On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 04:54:56 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
>>Oh pshaw, on Fri 21 Dec 2007 09:47:06p, meant to say...
>>
>>> On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 01:04:16 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>We used to use Crisco cans before they started making them out of
>>>>cardboard.
>>>
>>> Crisco comes in cardboard now???? OH, man... I'm behind the times.
>>>

>>
>>Way behind the times, Barbara. It's probably been 12-15 years now.

>
> ARE YOU KIDDING??? I know I've bought it in the last 5 years or so
> and it was in a can. LOL. Does it come in a lard-like container
> now? Maybe us Westerners are in the backwaters of commercial
> packaging.
>


No, it's still a cannister with a thin metal bottom and a metal rim at the
top, but the cannister itself is cardboard. Externally they look pretty
much the same. There's even a small warning on the outside not to put hot
oil in it.

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On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 16:06:36 -0500, "Nancy Young" >
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>
>"Little Malice" > wrote
>
>> One time on Usenet, "Nancy Young" > said:
>>>
>>> "Little Malice" > wrote

>
>>> > We had tenants in our old house who did just that, although this was a
>>> > single story place, not a high rise. The pile outside of the kitchen
>>> > window was amazing. I cried...
>>>
>>> You and your landlord mentality, tsk tsk.
>>>
>>> (laugh) nancy (not interested in being one, too much work)

>>
>> I should have been clearer, but I'm always trying not to be verbose.

>
>Oh, I was just making a joke about an earlier post. I'm sorry if
>I came across wrong.
>
>> It was my childhood home, and Mom wound up being a landlord because
>> the person who bought it from us when we left defaulted on the loan.
>> I cried because I remembered how clean and tidy Mom kept the place
>> when we lived there -- childhood memories...

>
>What a shame. Some people have no pride.
>


I actually do understand Shemptons disgust with renters. I'm not a
landlord, but some of my friends and family are. Some of the
apartments are amazing when they get them back. The stoves are
sometimes so bad it's easier to replace them. Carpeting with burn
holes, ink stains, and wax. Cigarette burns on counter tops and
vanities. Huge holes kicked in walls. Doors destroyed. Crayon marks
on walls. etc. etc. One renter of a house didn't pay the gas bill and
when the pipes froze the hot water heating system cracked and flooded
the house. With the damage that caused, and with all the other things
they had ruined the owner wrecked the house and sold the land. Most
of these idiots are the type that want their security deposit back. I
could go on, but I won't. I'll never buy rental property.

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On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 05:17:08 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
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>No, it's still a cannister with a thin metal bottom and a metal rim at the
>top, but the cannister itself is cardboard. Externally they look pretty
>much the same. There's even a small warning on the outside not to put hot
>oil in it.


ahhh, ok. Now I feel better about my power of observation.



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"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
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> Another thing we don't see in too many areas these days is home delivery
> of
> dairy products, bread, chips and pretzels, etc.


We still have dairy delivery here. They deliver some other things as well,
like cookie dough, soup mixes, coffee and laundry soap. They had the best
cottage cheese with no modified food starch. But I had to quit taking
delivery because of our dairy allergies. Husband couldn't eat/drink enough
in a week to warrant delivery.


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<sf> wrote in message ...
> On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 09:54:29 -0500, "cybercat" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Little Malice" > wrote
>>> I keep old grease in a coffee can and throw it out when it gets
>>> full...
>>>

>>
>>A time-honored tradition of my mom's.
>>

> I thought everyone did that. I use smaller cans, but they are still
> cans.


I have so little grease I don't to worry about it. If I do have it, I just
use a soup can, vegetable can, or sometimes even a soda can if I haven't
anything else. My mom uses a jar.


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Julie Bove wrote:


> We still have dairy delivery here. They deliver some other things as well,
> like cookie dough, soup mixes, coffee and laundry soap. They had the best
> cottage cheese with no modified food starch. But I had to quit taking
> delivery because of our dairy allergies. Husband couldn't eat/drink enough
> in a week to warrant delivery.


We haven't had dairy deliver here for along time. We had it almost 30 years
ago when we first moved here, but with the two of us working it didn't work
out very well to have the milk delivered after we left for work in the
morning and have it sitting out all day until we got home. When I was a
kid all the houses had milk boxes right in to the walls. Back then we also
had bread delivery.
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On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 10:31:34 -0800, sf wrote:

>On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 18:18:00 GMT, blake murphy >
>wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 11:39:09 -0800, sf wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 09:46:46 GMT, "Paul M. Cook" >
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>To sum up everything, a compost pile is your best option. You just dump
>>>>anything organic, save for meat, into the pile and you are rewarded with a
>>>>mulch that is a gift from heaven. You can get these nifty compost bins at
>>>>any garden shop.
>>>
>>>How does that work in a high rise?

>>
>>in a high-rise you just throw garbage out the window.
>>

>In the hope that flying rats will catch it midair?


it's quite entertaining when they do.

your pal,
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On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 01:50:07 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
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>Oh pshaw, on Fri 21 Dec 2007 05:40:22p, Goomba38 meant to say...
>
>> Nancy Young wrote:
>>
>>> Haha, that's funny. We keep our garbage cans out of sight, too. They
>>> aren't exactly decorative. I didn't put a sign on your garbage cans,
>>> though. If I was going to do that, I'd put a sign on the cans across the
>>> street. Bring in your friggin garbage cans once they're empty! So
>>> annoying, they leave them out for days sometimes.
>>>

>> Ooooh.. that drives me nuts but just as much as that is that in my
>> county, we have a choice of garbage pick up companies (3 or 4) and they
>> all use different days for pick ups. So it sometimes seems as if there
>> are cans somewhere on the street almost 3 days a week. Very annoying
>> when you think of it. I wish they'd organize it so that the entire
>> neighborhood used the same day (days) only.

>
>That's the way it is in our neighborhood. There are at least 3 different
>companies and they each pick up twice a week. Seems like there's hardly a
>day of the week (except Sunday) that there aren't trash barrels at the curb
>somewhere.
>


embrace it, wayne. it's all part of life's rich tapestry.

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Sqwertz wrote:

>
> I live at edge of a large wilderness park. I have problems with
> animals and smell getting into my trash.


The animals put the "smell" into the trash??????????
>
> Trust me.
>
> I'll continue to keep my small amount of wet trash in the
> freezer, thank you. That is, if it's OK with everyone who
> doesn't have this problem...


I was killing some fire ants this morning and walked by my large,
wheeled trash bin and stopped to sniff. It has been in the 80's here for
several days and the can is in the sun. Collection was on Tuesday so
there is a bag of trash in there already. No odor.

I don't know if you can consider this empirical data because I can't
sniff other people's trash bins in other places, but I have done the
experiment and FWIW, my trash bin is vindicated from the smelly and my
garbage will not have to be frozen. <vbg>

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Oh pshaw, on Sat 22 Dec 2007 09:38:19a, blake murphy meant to say...

> On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 01:50:07 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
>>Oh pshaw, on Fri 21 Dec 2007 05:40:22p, Goomba38 meant to say...
>>
>>> Nancy Young wrote:
>>>
>>>> Haha, that's funny. We keep our garbage cans out of sight, too.
>>>> They aren't exactly decorative. I didn't put a sign on your garbage
>>>> cans, though. If I was going to do that, I'd put a sign on the cans
>>>> across the street. Bring in your friggin garbage cans once they're
>>>> empty! So annoying, they leave them out for days sometimes.
>>>>
>>> Ooooh.. that drives me nuts but just as much as that is that in my
>>> county, we have a choice of garbage pick up companies (3 or 4) and
>>> they all use different days for pick ups. So it sometimes seems as if
>>> there are cans somewhere on the street almost 3 days a week. Very
>>> annoying when you think of it. I wish they'd organize it so that the
>>> entire neighborhood used the same day (days) only.

>>
>>That's the way it is in our neighborhood. There are at least 3 different
>>companies and they each pick up twice a week. Seems like there's hardly
>>a day of the week (except Sunday) that there aren't trash barrels at the
>>curb somewhere.
>>

>
> embrace it, wayne. it's all part of life's rich tapestry.
>
> your pal,
> blake


It actually doesn't bother me. I was just writing an observation of what
happens in our neighborhood. I am glad, however, that everyone on our
street retrieves their barrel within the day of pickup and puts it where it
belongs.

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"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
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> Oh pshaw, on Sat 22 Dec 2007 09:38:19a, blake murphy meant to say...
>
>> On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 01:50:07 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>Oh pshaw, on Fri 21 Dec 2007 05:40:22p, Goomba38 meant to say...
>>>
>>>> Nancy Young wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Haha, that's funny. We keep our garbage cans out of sight, too.
>>>>> They aren't exactly decorative. I didn't put a sign on your garbage
>>>>> cans, though. If I was going to do that, I'd put a sign on the cans
>>>>> across the street. Bring in your friggin garbage cans once they're
>>>>> empty! So annoying, they leave them out for days sometimes.
>>>>>
>>>> Ooooh.. that drives me nuts but just as much as that is that in my
>>>> county, we have a choice of garbage pick up companies (3 or 4) and
>>>> they all use different days for pick ups. So it sometimes seems as if
>>>> there are cans somewhere on the street almost 3 days a week. Very
>>>> annoying when you think of it. I wish they'd organize it so that the
>>>> entire neighborhood used the same day (days) only.
>>>
>>>That's the way it is in our neighborhood. There are at least 3 different
>>>companies and they each pick up twice a week. Seems like there's hardly
>>>a day of the week (except Sunday) that there aren't trash barrels at the
>>>curb somewhere.
>>>

>>
>> embrace it, wayne. it's all part of life's rich tapestry.
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake

>
> It actually doesn't bother me. I was just writing an observation of what
> happens in our neighborhood. I am glad, however, that everyone on our
> street retrieves their barrel within the day of pickup and puts it where
> it
> belongs.
>


I never notice anyone's garbage cans unless they are rolling down the middle
of the road. This happens after pickup some days, I live on a hill.


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On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 06:46:59 GMT, "Julie Bove" >
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>"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
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>
>> Another thing we don't see in too many areas these days is home delivery
>> of
>> dairy products, bread, chips and pretzels, etc.

>
>We still have dairy delivery here. They deliver some other things as well,
>like cookie dough, soup mixes, coffee and laundry soap. They had the best
>cottage cheese with no modified food starch. But I had to quit taking
>delivery because of our dairy allergies. Husband couldn't eat/drink enough
>in a week to warrant delivery.
>

Wow! I thought home delivery ceased 40-50 years ago.

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I can't help you with your clogged drain - but might I suggest that you
compost those peels and cores rather than throwing them down the drain?



On 2007-12-19 17:32:48 -0800, "Julie Bove" > said:

> Do you have one? Do you use it?
>
> I ask because I have one that I very rarely use. My sink has a tendency to
> clog and every time I use the disposal, I fear that it will clog again.
>
> When we bought this house about 3 years ago, the sink was clogged. I knew
> this. The plumber came out and snaked out the main line. Fine. Until I
> began canning all those apples and pears. I put tons of peels and cores
> down the sink. There is no doubt in my mind I overworked the poor disposal.
>
> Called the plumber again. Was told never to put peels of any kind down the
> sink. Or cores. Or seeds. Fine.
>
> Left the house one day while husband was steam cleaning the carpets. I
> begged him not to put the dirty water down the kitchen sink because I was
> tired of it clogging. Told him instead to put it down the sink in the
> garage. Why do we have a sink in there? I don't know, but we do. So what
> did he do? Put it down the kitchen sink.
>
> I came home to a clogged sink. Couldn't manage to unclog it myself which I
> sometimes could by bailing and plunging and running the disposal until it
> released whatever was the problem.
>
> Called the plumber again. He said this time the problem was paint chips.
> White paint chips. I finally determined that it wasn't paint chips but egg
> shells. Or egg peels. Yes, peels. What I was told before never to put
> down there. He also told me that all I needed to do in the case of a clog
> was remove some little piece underneath the sink and clean it out. I was
> kind of afraid to do this for fear of not getting it back on right.
>
> About two weeks went by and yes indeedy I had to call the plumber again!
> This time I have no clue what the cause was, but I was told I needed a new
> disposal. Fine. Also had him put in a new faucet because that was starting
> to leak. And he had to replace some pipes because he said those were
> leaking. Whatever.
>
> So he did all this work and then told me never to USE the disposal. I was
> like... Say what? Why do I have it then? He told me a disposal was only
> meant to handle the lone bite of meat, bit of gravy or couple of peas left
> on a plate. It could handle that just fine, but it could not handle large
> amounts of food and would get clogged if I put too much down it. Said my
> best bet was never to put food down it deliberately and to run plenty of hot
> water down it every day.
>
> Oddly, each time the plumbers came, they commented that there was no grease
> in the trap. They said most clogs were caused by grease but mine never
> were. My parents told me years ago never to put grease down the sink and I
> never did.
>
> But I find this hard to believe that I can never use the disposal. I've
> lived in plenty of places and most of them had disposals. I've never had
> problems like this. Except for the time I tried to put the daisies down the
> disposal. I figured they were kind of like salad. But I've also been told
> salad should never go down the disposal either. In fact I tried looking it
> up and found all sorts of conflicting advice on what I should or should not
> put down it.
>
> Any thoughts?





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On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 18:07:01 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>
>It actually doesn't bother me. I was just writing an observation of what
>happens in our neighborhood. I am glad, however, that everyone on our
>street retrieves their barrel within the day of pickup and puts it where it
>belongs.


We have what amounts to a monopoly here and never thought about anyone
actually having a choice of garbage collectors before this.

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<sf> wrote in message ...
> On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 18:07:01 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>>
>>It actually doesn't bother me. I was just writing an observation of what
>>happens in our neighborhood. I am glad, however, that everyone on our
>>street retrieves their barrel within the day of pickup and puts it where
>>it
>>belongs.

>
> We have what amounts to a monopoly here and never thought about anyone
> actually having a choice of garbage collectors before this.
>


Here too. But, until maybe five years ago, the trash guys went behind or
beside the house
to get the cans and returned them, too.


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<sf> wrote in message ...
> On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:20:41 -0500, "Dee.Dee" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Lou Decruss" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:47:43 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>This is especially true if your plumbing itself is suspect.
>>>
>>> All plumbing is suspect if it's abused. A sink is not a garbage can.
>>> The things I'm reading people put down there amaze me. And yes, I
>>> have one. It's fine for rinsing dishes, but that's about it. I even
>>> have oversized waste pipes and I still won't use the thing as a trash
>>> can
>>>
>>> Lou

>>
>>Were the oversized waste pipes there when you bought the house? A new
>>house -- a re-modeled kitchen?
>>I've never heard about ones being oversized, so am curious.
>>Thanks.

>
> SIL in NYC says garbage disposals are illegal, at least where she
> lives in MidTown. However she says the pipes are so big you could put
> human body parts down the drain.... which has probably happened at
> least once in NY. <shudder>


We had a disposal on Staten Island.


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On Dec 19, 8:32*pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> Do you have one? *Do you use it?


> Any thoughts?


Did I catch whether you were on sewer or septic?

We are on septic and NO garbage disposal. NO grease in sink either.

Any other "garbage", i.e., peels, coffee grounds, egg shells are found
treasures for compost!


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> On Dec 19, 8:32*pm, "Julie Bove" >
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>> Do you have one? *Do you use it?

>
>> Any thoughts?

>
> Did I catch whether you were on sewer or septic?
>
> We are on septic and NO garbage disposal. NO grease in
> sink either.
>
> Any other "garbage", i.e., peels, coffee grounds, egg
> shells are found treasures for compost!


there *are* septic safe garbage disposals, however i'd be
inclined to have the tank pumped more frequently if i had such
a thing...
in one of the homestead type mags (maybe MEN) a few years ago
there were plans for a garbage disposal that emptied into a
bucket outside the house, rather than into the drainline.
once/day or so the outside bucket was toted to the compost
pile, where the nicely ground stuff broke down even quicker
than regular scraps.
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On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 10:29:57 GMT, "Michael \"Dog3\""
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>For the kids we're giving cash this year. Let 'em buy what they
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My kids are getting gift cards - to Lowe's, Linen & Things...

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>> On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:20:41 -0500, "Dee.Dee" >
>> wrote:
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>>> "Lou Decruss" > wrote in message
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>>>> On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:47:43 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This is especially true if your plumbing itself is suspect.
>>>> All plumbing is suspect if it's abused. A sink is not a garbage can.
>>>> The things I'm reading people put down there amaze me. And yes, I
>>>> have one. It's fine for rinsing dishes, but that's about it. I even
>>>> have oversized waste pipes and I still won't use the thing as a trash
>>>> can
>>>>
>>>> Lou
>>> Were the oversized waste pipes there when you bought the house? A new
>>> house -- a re-modeled kitchen?
>>> I've never heard about ones being oversized, so am curious.
>>> Thanks.

>> SIL in NYC says garbage disposals are illegal, at least where she
>> lives in MidTown. However she says the pipes are so big you could put
>> human body parts down the drain.... which has probably happened at
>> least once in NY. <shudder>

>
> We had a disposal on Staten Island.
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My DH used to teach on Staten Island. 32 years in a Middle School.
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There was an ad from InSinkErator this morning on DYI or HGTV and they
showed several of them including one that had a little bottle that
injected enzymes into the waste before sending it to the septic. They
also showed a few that could grind corn cobs!

One would think that the local sewerage treatment plant wouldn't be too
happy with all of that.


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On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 13:52:39 -0600, Janet Wilder
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>There was an ad from InSinkErator this morning on DYI or HGTV and they
>showed several of them including one that had a little bottle that
>injected enzymes into the waste before sending it to the septic. They
>also showed a few that could grind corn cobs!
>
>One would think that the local sewerage treatment plant wouldn't be too
>happy with all of that.


Sewage plants have more pressing problems than a little ground up food
to contend with. They have to filter out human waste, chemicals,
pharmaceuticals, hormones, personal care products, motor oil and all
the other crud that storm drains carry off after rainwater washes the
streets.

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"cybercat" > wrote in message
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>
> "Nancy2" > wrote in message
> ...
>>> > best bet was never to put food down it deliberately and to run plenty
>>> > of hot
>>> > water down it every day.

>>
>> You should never run the disposal with hot water.

>
> Why?


Cold water keeps the motor from overheating.




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"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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> "cybercat" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Nancy2" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>> > best bet was never to put food down it deliberately and to run plenty
>>>> > of hot
>>>> > water down it every day.
>>>
>>> You should never run the disposal with hot water.

>>
>> Why?

>
> Cold water keeps the motor from overheating.


More important, it congeals grease.
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Oh pshaw, on Sun 23 Dec 2007 10:57:39p, Sqwertz meant to say...

> On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 05:28:44 GMT, Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
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>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "cybercat" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> "Nancy2" > wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>>>> > best bet was never to put food down it deliberately and to run
>>>>>> > plenty of hot
>>>>>> > water down it every day.
>>>>>
>>>>> You should never run the disposal with hot water.
>>>>
>>>> Why?
>>>
>>> Cold water keeps the motor from overheating.

>>
>> More important, it congeals grease.

>
> Wouldn't that be bad for the pipes?
>
> -sw
>


No, congealed grease will be "ground up" like other pieces of food and flow
through the plumbing rather than cooling gradually as it goes through teh
pies and adhering to the walls of the pies. All disposal manufacturers
recommend cold water for this reason. The only exception is when putting
the unit through a cleaning cycle w/o food. Certain disposal cleaners
specifically call for hot water.

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