I know the physical difference between the two, that nutmeg is the seed and
mace is the lacy covering surrounding it. I use both in recipes as
specified, and I have subbed one for the other when I had run out.

What I'm interested in is your personal perception of the difference in
flavor. The main difference I perceive is that mace has a somewhat
stronger flavor and is, of course, lighter in color.

Anybody?

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On Dec 25, 12:39�pm, Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
> I know the physical difference between the two, that nutmeg is the seed and
> mace is the lacy covering surrounding it. �I use both in recipes as
> specified, and I have subbed one for the other when I had run out.
>
> What I'm interested in is your personal perception of the difference in
> flavor. �The main difference I perceive is that mace has a somewhat
> stronger flavor and is, of course, lighter in color.

Even though from the same fruit and even used together in many of the
same recipes nutmeg and mace (aril) are very different in flavor, as
different as cinnamon and cloves. Even though there is some overlap I
use nutmeg mostly for baking but I use mace mainly for cooking,
usually blade mace in soups and stews.

Oh pshaw, on Tue 25 Dec 2007 10:53:59a, kilikini meant to say...

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> I know the physical difference between the two, that nutmeg is the
>> seed and mace is the lacy covering surrounding it. I use both in
>> recipes as specified, and I have subbed one for the other when I had
>> run out.
>>
>> What I'm interested in is your personal perception of the difference
>> in flavor. The main difference I perceive is that mace has a somewhat
>> stronger flavor and is, of course, lighter in color.
>>
>> Anybody?
>
> I think mace has a stronger flavor, too, which is why I wonder when I'm
> watching a cooking show and the host grates fresh nutmeg into the dish,
> the outside hasn't already been grated. Mace, to me, is almost more of
> a 5-spice/ginger type thing. Does that make sense?
>
> kili
>
>
>

Hmm... I never thought about it having a multi-dimensional flavor. I'll
have to taste test that!

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Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> I know the physical difference between the two, that nutmeg is the seed and
> mace is the lacy covering surrounding it. I use both in recipes as
> specified, and I have subbed one for the other when I had run out.
>
> What I'm interested in is your personal perception of the difference in
> flavor. The main difference I perceive is that mace has a somewhat
> stronger flavor and is, of course, lighter in color.
>
> Anybody?
>

Mace is "spicier" has more bite or kick imo, but i like it so much i use
it as a form of incense, i think i like the aroma better than the flavour.

Nutmeg on the other hand seems mild and "smooth" not spicy to me.
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Oh pshaw, on Tue 25 Dec 2007 11:18:43a, Joseph Littleshoes meant to say...

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> I know the physical difference between the two, that nutmeg is the seed
>> and mace is the lacy covering surrounding it. I use both in recipes as
>> specified, and I have subbed one for the other when I had run out.
>>
>> What I'm interested in is your personal perception of the difference in
>> flavor. The main difference I perceive is that mace has a somewhat
>> stronger flavor and is, of course, lighter in color.
>>
>> Anybody?
>>
>
> Mace is "spicier" has more bite or kick imo, but i like it so much i use
> it as a form of incense, i think i like the aroma better than the
> flavour.

Yes, that's it. It is "spicier". How do you use it as incense, over a
small piece of charcoal?

> Nutmeg on the other hand seems mild and "smooth" not spicy to me.

It does have a nice aromatic quality to it, though. I especially like it
in custards.

> JL
>



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In article 4>,
Wayne Boatwright > wrote:

> I know the physical difference between the two, that nutmeg is the seed and
> mace is the lacy covering surrounding it. I use both in recipes as
> specified, and I have subbed one for the other when I had run out.
>
> What I'm interested in is your personal perception of the difference in
> flavor. The main difference I perceive is that mace has a somewhat
> stronger flavor and is, of course, lighter in color.

Mace is stronger, and to my mind, has sharper edges. Nutmeg is for when
you want delicacy. It makes a good Secret Ingredient for when you want
to drive people nuts guessing what that other flavour is.

Miche

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Miche wrote:
> In article 4>,
> Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
>
>> I know the physical difference between the two, that nutmeg is the seed and
>> mace is the lacy covering surrounding it. I use both in recipes as
>> specified, and I have subbed one for the other when I had run out.
>>
>> What I'm interested in is your personal perception of the difference in
>> flavor. The main difference I perceive is that mace has a somewhat
>> stronger flavor and is, of course, lighter in color.
>
> Mace is stronger, and to my mind, has sharper edges. Nutmeg is for when
> you want delicacy. It makes a good Secret Ingredient for when you want
> to drive people nuts guessing what that other flavour is.

Drive people "nuts". Good pun Miche
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Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> Oh pshaw, on Tue 25 Dec 2007 11:18:43a, Joseph Littleshoes meant to say...
>
>
>>Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>
>>>I know the physical difference between the two, that nutmeg is the seed
>>>and mace is the lacy covering surrounding it. I use both in recipes as
>>>specified, and I have subbed one for the other when I had run out.
>>>
>>>What I'm interested in is your personal perception of the difference in
>>>flavor. The main difference I perceive is that mace has a somewhat
>>>stronger flavor and is, of course, lighter in color.
>>>
>>>Anybody?
>>>
>>
>>Mace is "spicier" has more bite or kick imo, but i like it so much i use
>>it as a form of incense, i think i like the aroma better than the
>>flavour.
>
>
> Yes, that's it. It is "spicier". How do you use it as incense, over a
> small piece of charcoal?

No! if necessary, if i am out of the mace incense sold at a local store
i will gently heat without carbonizing the powdered mace. But the
incense i buy, while definitely, top note, mace, has under notes of
cinnamon and i think, bayberry, possibly some clove also.

>
>
>>Nutmeg on the other hand seems mild and "smooth" not spicy to me.
>
>
> It does have a nice aromatic quality to it, though. I especially like it
> in custards.

Im more likely to use nutmeg in cooking than i am mace, i make a very
nice garlic cream sauce with just a hint of nutmeg, though i have done
lamb roasts and stews with mace to good effect. I also like it with
carrots and cauliflower.

I have had various sweets in which mace was used to good effect, a
pumpkin pie especially, but some stewed fruit dishes i have had also. I
have read of people using mace in a chocolate sauce but have never done so.

Combines well with cumin IMO and often goes in my sage and onion bread
stuffing.
--
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>
>
>>JL
>>
>
>
>
>

In article >,
ChattyCathy > wrote:

> Miche wrote:
> > In article 4>,
> > Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
> >
> >> I know the physical difference between the two, that nutmeg is the seed
> >> and
> >> mace is the lacy covering surrounding it. I use both in recipes as
> >> specified, and I have subbed one for the other when I had run out.
> >>
> >> What I'm interested in is your personal perception of the difference in
> >> flavor. The main difference I perceive is that mace has a somewhat
> >> stronger flavor and is, of course, lighter in color.
> >
> > Mace is stronger, and to my mind, has sharper edges. Nutmeg is for when
> > you want delicacy. It makes a good Secret Ingredient for when you want
> > to drive people nuts guessing what that other flavour is.
>
> Drive people "nuts". Good pun Miche

Goodness! That was totally unintentional. No, really!

Miche

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Wayne Boatwright > wrote:

>I know the physical difference between the two, that nutmeg is the seed and
>mace is the lacy covering surrounding it. I use both in recipes as
>specified, and I have subbed one for the other when I had run out.

>What I'm interested in is your personal perception of the difference in
>flavor. The main difference I perceive is that mace has a somewhat
>stronger flavor and is, of course, lighter in color.

I have not figured out how to grind them separately from the
nut, so if either is called for in a recipe and assuming I'm grinding
it myself, I end up with a mixture.

With respect to the pre-ground versions that come in spice jars,
Pre-ground nutmeg has a very characteristic non-fresh-ground
nutmeg flavor that pervades anything it's added to, whereas
mace is a little different, and doesn't have that "sameness"
to it -- probably just because it's a little less familiar of
a flavor.

Steve

"Wayne Boatwright" > schrieb im Newsbeitrag
3.184...
>I know the physical difference between the two, that nutmeg is the seed and
> mace is the lacy covering surrounding it. I use both in recipes as
> specified, and I have subbed one for the other when I had run out.
>
> What I'm interested in is your personal perception of the difference in
> flavor. The main difference I perceive is that mace has a somewhat
> stronger flavor and is, of course, lighter in color.
>
> Anybody?
>
Nutmeg is the nut; mace is the blossom.
It's no surprise that they taste vastly different.

Cheers,

Michael Kuettner

Oh pshaw, on Tue 25 Dec 2007 12:07:16p, Miche meant to say...

> In article 4>,
> Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
>
>> I know the physical difference between the two, that nutmeg is the seed
>> and mace is the lacy covering surrounding it. I use both in recipes as
>> specified, and I have subbed one for the other when I had run out.
>>
>> What I'm interested in is your personal perception of the difference in
>> flavor. The main difference I perceive is that mace has a somewhat
>> stronger flavor and is, of course, lighter in color.
>
> Mace is stronger, and to my mind, has sharper edges. Nutmeg is for when
> you want delicacy. It makes a good Secret Ingredient for when you want
> to drive people nuts guessing what that other flavour is.
>
> Miche
>

Good point, Miche. I find I use a little bit of nutmeg in a lot of things
that I probably wouldn't use mace in.

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Oh pshaw, on Tue 25 Dec 2007 01:26:22p, Joseph Littleshoes meant to say...

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>> Oh pshaw, on Tue 25 Dec 2007 11:18:43a, Joseph Littleshoes meant to
>> say...
>>
>>
>>>Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>>
>>>>I know the physical difference between the two, that nutmeg is the
>>>>seed and mace is the lacy covering surrounding it. I use both in
>>>>recipes as specified, and I have subbed one for the other when I had
>>>>run out.
>>>>
>>>>What I'm interested in is your personal perception of the difference
>>>>in flavor. The main difference I perceive is that mace has a somewhat
>>>>stronger flavor and is, of course, lighter in color.
>>>>
>>>>Anybody?
>>>>
>>>
>>>Mace is "spicier" has more bite or kick imo, but i like it so much i
>>>use it as a form of incense, i think i like the aroma better than the
>>>flavour.
>>
>>
>> Yes, that's it. It is "spicier". How do you use it as incense, over a
>> small piece of charcoal?
>
> No! if necessary, if i am out of the mace incense sold at a local store
> i will gently heat without carbonizing the powdered mace. But the
> incense i buy, while definitely, top note, mace, has under notes of
> cinnamon and i think, bayberry, possibly some clove also.

Umm... The incense you buy sounds really nice. I don't think I've ever
see one with that particular combination.

>>>Nutmeg on the other hand seems mild and "smooth" not spicy to me.
>>
>>
>> It does have a nice aromatic quality to it, though. I especially like
>> it in custards.
>
> Im more likely to use nutmeg in cooking than i am mace, i make a very
> nice garlic cream sauce with just a hint of nutmeg, though i have done
> lamb roasts and stews with mace to good effect. I also like it with
> carrots and cauliflower.

All good choices. I often use nutmeg with pork roast, along with garlic
adn pepper.

> I have had various sweets in which mace was used to good effect, a
> pumpkin pie especially, but some stewed fruit dishes i have had also. I
> have read of people using mace in a chocolate sauce but have never done
> so.

I use both netmeg and mace in my pumpkiin pie, and have used mace with
stewed fruit. I don't think I've ever tasted it in combination with
chocolate.

> Combines well with cumin IMO and often goes in my sage and onion bread
> stuffing.

That would be interesting. I wonder how that would work with my cornbread
dressing, which is predominately sage and poultry seasoning flavored, and
onion and celery, of course.


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On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 17:39:12 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>What I'm interested in is your personal perception of the difference in
>flavor. The main difference I perceive is that mace has a somewhat
>stronger flavor and is, of course, lighter in color.

I can't stand nutmeg, even in tiny amounts. Mace is fine.

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Oh pshaw, on Tue 25 Dec 2007 02:58:57p, Michael Kuettner meant to say...

>
> "Wayne Boatwright" > schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> 3.184...
>>I know the physical difference between the two, that nutmeg is the seed
and
>> mace is the lacy covering surrounding it. I use both in recipes as
>> specified, and I have subbed one for the other when I had run out.
>>
>> What I'm interested in is your personal perception of the difference in
>> flavor. The main difference I perceive is that mace has a somewhat
>> stronger flavor and is, of course, lighter in color.
>>
>> Anybody?
>>
> Nutmeg is the nut; mace is the blossom.
> It's no surprise that they taste vastly different.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Michael Kuettner
>
>
>

I already stated that. I wondered what other people felt about the
didfference in flavor, not just that fact that it's different.

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"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
3.184...
>I know the physical difference between the two, that nutmeg is the seed and
> mace is the lacy covering surrounding it. I use both in recipes as
> specified, and I have subbed one for the other when I had run out.
>
> What I'm interested in is your personal perception of the difference in
> flavor. The main difference I perceive is that mace has a somewhat
> stronger flavor and is, of course, lighter in color.
>
> Anybody?

I don't think I've ever used mace, but I don't like the flavor of nutmeg
very much. I hadn't really noticed before until my dad brought home this
apple pie from work. It was from a Christmas buffet. He said the woman
made a ton of them and nobody was eating them. Apparently she had an
accident with the nutmeg when adding it to the filling. Why she didn't try
to take some of it out was beyond me. The filling was a dark brown and I
recall it making my tongue go numb. Now if I have a recipe that calls for
it, I can only put a pinch of it in. Any more than that is overkill to me.

Oh pshaw, on Tue 25 Dec 2007 03:15:34p, meant to say...

> On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 17:39:12 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
>>What I'm interested in is your personal perception of the difference in
>>flavor. The main difference I perceive is that mace has a somewhat
>>stronger flavor and is, of course, lighter in color.
>
> I can't stand nutmeg, even in tiny amounts. Mace is fine.
>

Interesting... Nutmeg contains an oil that I don't believe is in mace.
Mace is generally thought to be a stronger, sharper flavor. Can you
determine what makes the difference to you?

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Oh pshaw, on Tue 25 Dec 2007 03:25:14p, Julie Bove meant to say...

>
> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
> 3.184...
>>I know the physical difference between the two, that nutmeg is the seed
>>and
>> mace is the lacy covering surrounding it. I use both in recipes as
>> specified, and I have subbed one for the other when I had run out.
>>
>> What I'm interested in is your personal perception of the difference in
>> flavor. The main difference I perceive is that mace has a somewhat
>> stronger flavor and is, of course, lighter in color.
>>
>> Anybody?
>
> I don't think I've ever used mace, but I don't like the flavor of nutmeg
> very much. I hadn't really noticed before until my dad brought home
> this apple pie from work. It was from a Christmas buffet. He said the
> woman made a ton of them and nobody was eating them. Apparently she had
> an accident with the nutmeg when adding it to the filling. Why she
> didn't try to take some of it out was beyond me. The filling was a dark
> brown and I recall it making my tongue go numb. Now if I have a recipe
> that calls for it, I can only put a pinch of it in. Any more than that
> is overkill to me.
>
>
>

Oh, that would be extreme. Some spices are quite powerful in large
amounts. I recall getting a serious burn in my mouth when a school nurse
swabbed it heavily with oil of clove. I can only cloves in very tiny
amounts now.

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On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 22:26:23 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>Oh pshaw, on Tue 25 Dec 2007 03:15:34p, meant to say...
>
>> On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 17:39:12 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>What I'm interested in is your personal perception of the difference in
>>>flavor. The main difference I perceive is that mace has a somewhat
>>>stronger flavor and is, of course, lighter in color.
>>
>> I can't stand nutmeg, even in tiny amounts. Mace is fine.
>>
>
>Interesting... Nutmeg contains an oil that I don't believe is in mace.
>Mace is generally thought to be a stronger, sharper flavor. Can you
>determine what makes the difference to you?

I don't know. I just know I can't stand even a hint of nutmeg, but
mace is fine as is allspice.

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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 07:49:49 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>Years ago I used to love tarragon. Today I
>can barely stand the smell or taste of it.

That means no bernaise sauce for you! I love tarragon, but my use
of it has always been in moderation.... thyme and garlic are a
different story though (much more versatile IMO).

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Oh pshaw, on Wed 26 Dec 2007 09:13:32a, meant to say...

> On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 07:49:49 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
>>Years ago I used to love tarragon. Today I can barely stand the smell
>>or taste of it.
>
> That means no bernaise sauce for you! I love tarragon, but my use
> of it has always been in moderation.... thyme and garlic are a
> different story though (much more versatile IMO).
>

Agreed, and I use thyme and garlic a lot. I could barely manage to cook an
entire meal with some garlic in something. :-)

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Wayne Boatwright schrieb :
> Oh pshaw, on Tue 25 Dec 2007 02:58:57p, Michael Kuettner meant to say...
>
>>
>> Wayne Boatwright schrieb :
>>>I know the physical difference between the two, that nutmeg is the seed
> and
>>> mace is the lacy covering surrounding it. I use both in recipes as
>>> specified, and I have subbed one for the other when I had run out.
>>>
>>> What I'm interested in is your personal perception of the difference in
>>> flavor. The main difference I perceive is that mace has a somewhat
>>> stronger flavor and is, of course, lighter in color.
>>>
>>> Anybody?
>>>
>> Nutmeg is the nut; mace is the blossom.
>> It's no surprise that they taste vastly different.
>>
>
> I already stated that. I wondered what other people felt about the
> didfference in flavor, not just that fact that it's different.
>
There's a saying (to which I also subscribe) :
"You can always replace nutmeg with mace, but never mace with nutmeg."
Sums it up rather well, I think.

Cheers,

Michael Kuettner

Janet wrote:
> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
> 3.184...
>> I know the physical difference between the two, that nutmeg is the seed and
>> mace is the lacy covering surrounding it. I use both in recipes as
>> specified, and I have subbed one for the other when I had run out.
>>
>> What I'm interested in is your personal perception of the difference in
>> flavor. The main difference I perceive is that mace has a somewhat
>> stronger flavor and is, of course, lighter in color.
>>
>> Anybody?
>>
>> --
>> Wayne Boatwright
>
> I always think of mace as being lighter and sweeter.
>
>
.... to me it also has a hint of citrus.

Oh pshaw, on Wed 26 Dec 2007 10:56:22a, Michael Kuettner meant to say...

>
> Wayne Boatwright schrieb :
>> Oh pshaw, on Tue 25 Dec 2007 02:58:57p, Michael Kuettner meant to say...
>>
>>>
>>> Wayne Boatwright schrieb :
>>>>I know the physical difference between the two, that nutmeg is the seed
>>>>and
>>>> mace is the lacy covering surrounding it. I use both in recipes as
>>>> specified, and I have subbed one for the other when I had run out.
>>>>
>>>> What I'm interested in is your personal perception of the difference
in
>>>> flavor. The main difference I perceive is that mace has a somewhat
>>>> stronger flavor and is, of course, lighter in color.
>>>>
>>>> Anybody?
>>>>
>>> Nutmeg is the nut; mace is the blossom.
>>> It's no surprise that they taste vastly different.
>>>
>>
>> I already stated that. I wondered what other people felt about the
>> didfference in flavor, not just that fact that it's different.
>>
> There's a saying (to which I also subscribe) :
> "You can always replace nutmeg with mace, but never mace with nutmeg."
> Sums it up rather well, I think.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Michael Kuettner

I think I would generally agree with that; however, I ran out of nutmeg
last night and sprinkled mace on my eggnog. In that case it tasted fine.

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Wayne Boatwright schrieb :
> Oh pshaw, on Wed 26 Dec 2007 10:56:22a, Michael Kuettner meant to say...
>
>>
>> Wayne Boatwright schrieb :
>>> Oh pshaw, on Tue 25 Dec 2007 02:58:57p, Michael Kuettner meant to say...
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Wayne Boatwright schrieb :
>>>>>I know the physical difference between the two, that nutmeg is the seed
>>>>>and
>>>>> mace is the lacy covering surrounding it. I use both in recipes as
>>>>> specified, and I have subbed one for the other when I had run out.
>>>>>
>>>>> What I'm interested in is your personal perception of the difference
> in
>>>>> flavor. The main difference I perceive is that mace has a somewhat
>>>>> stronger flavor and is, of course, lighter in color.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anybody?
>>>>>
>>>> Nutmeg is the nut; mace is the blossom.
>>>> It's no surprise that they taste vastly different.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I already stated that. I wondered what other people felt about the
>>> didfference in flavor, not just that fact that it's different.
>>>
>> There's a saying (to which I also subscribe) :
>> "You can always replace nutmeg with mace, but never mace with nutmeg."
>> Sums it up rather well, I think.
>>
>
> I think I would generally agree with that; however, I ran out of nutmeg
> last night and sprinkled mace on my eggnog. In that case it tasted fine.
>
Err, why "however" ? You've just proven that the rule above is true.

Cheers,

Michael Kuettner

On Wed 26 Dec 2007 01:19:39p, Michael Kuettner told us...

>
> Wayne Boatwright schrieb :
>> Oh pshaw, on Wed 26 Dec 2007 10:56:22a, Michael Kuettner meant to say...
>>
>>>
>>> Wayne Boatwright schrieb :
>>>> Oh pshaw, on Tue 25 Dec 2007 02:58:57p, Michael Kuettner meant to
say...
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Wayne Boatwright schrieb :
>>>>>>I know the physical difference between the two, that nutmeg is the
seed
>>>>>>and
>>>>>> mace is the lacy covering surrounding it. I use both in recipes as
>>>>>> specified, and I have subbed one for the other when I had run out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What I'm interested in is your personal perception of the difference
>>>>>> in flavor. The main difference I perceive is that mace has a
somewhat
>>>>>> stronger flavor and is, of course, lighter in color.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anybody?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Nutmeg is the nut; mace is the blossom.
>>>>> It's no surprise that they taste vastly different.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I already stated that. I wondered what other people felt about the
>>>> didfference in flavor, not just that fact that it's different.
>>>>
>>> There's a saying (to which I also subscribe) :
>>> "You can always replace nutmeg with mace, but never mace with nutmeg."
>>> Sums it up rather well, I think.
>>>
>>
>> I think I would generally agree with that; however, I ran out of nutmeg
>> last night and sprinkled mace on my eggnog. In that case it tasted
fine.
>>
> Err, why "however" ? You've just proven that the rule above is true.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Michael Kuettner
>
>
>

We,, yes, you're quite right. :-)

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On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 17:39:12 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>What I'm interested in is your personal perception of the difference in
>flavor. The main difference I perceive is that mace has a somewhat
>stronger flavor and is, of course, lighter in color.

Mace will nutmeg you sick...
<ducking and running> :-)

Terry

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
> I know the physical difference between the two, that nutmeg is the seed and
> mace is the lacy covering surrounding it. I use both in recipes as
> specified, and I have subbed one for the other when I had run out.
>
> What I'm interested in is your personal perception of the difference in
> flavor. The main difference I perceive is that mace has a somewhat
> stronger flavor and is, of course, lighter in color.
>
> Anybody?
>
> --
> Wayne Boatwright

Two completely different flavours for me. One wouldn't be a substitute
for the other.

On Wed 26 Dec 2007 04:48:57p, Terry told us...

> On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 17:39:12 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
>>What I'm interested in is your personal perception of the difference in
>>flavor. The main difference I perceive is that mace has a somewhat
>>stronger flavor and is, of course, lighter in color.
>
> Mace will nutmeg you sick...
> <ducking and running> :-)
>
> Terry

LOL! Too clever!

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On Wed 26 Dec 2007 06:40:06p, Arri London told us...

>
>
> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>
>> I know the physical difference between the two, that nutmeg is the seed
>> and mace is the lacy covering surrounding it. I use both in recipes as
>> specified, and I have subbed one for the other when I had run out.
>>
>> What I'm interested in is your personal perception of the difference in
>> flavor. The main difference I perceive is that mace has a somewhat
>> stronger flavor and is, of course, lighter in color.
>>
>> Anybody?
>>
>> --
>> Wayne Boatwright
>
> Two completely different flavours for me. One wouldn't be a substitute
> for the other.

I think it depends on what the use is. I agree that the flavors are
different, but also think there's enough similarity that subbing wouldn't
be a disaster in some dishes.

--
Wayne Boatwright

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On Thu 27 Dec 2007 10:43:10a, Janet Baraclough told us...

> The message >
> from "Michael Kuettner" > contains these words:
>
>> Nutmeg is the nut; mace is the blossom.
>
> It's not the blossom. Mace is a lacy layer covering the nutmeg , both
> are contained within an outer layer.
>
> see a pic of how they fit together at
>
> http://www.picturescolourlibrary.co....go/2166366.jpg
>
> Janet
>

Yes, I knew that, but apparently Michael did not. I use blades of mace
with certain pickles that I make. A couple of times I have bought the
nutmeg with the mace still surrounding it.

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"Janet Baraclough" > wrote

> from "Michael Kuettner" > contains these words:
>
>> Nutmeg is the nut; mace is the blossom.
>
> It's not the blossom. Mace is a lacy layer covering the nutmeg , both
> are contained within an outer layer.

I was wondering how that could be called a blossom. Not being
a biologist, I figured maybe it's technically a blossom, somehow.

Unrelated, I watched an episode of a show a couple of weeks ago.
Thought of it with this mace/blossom business. Without going into
details, the story was these people were super-sniffers and they
were sniffing some jerk chicken and decifering what was in it. The
mother ended with Ground nutmeg, not minced! I know it's for laughs,
but I thought ... minced nutmeg? Good luck with that!

nancy

"Wayne Boatwright" > schrieb im Newsbeitrag
3.184...
> On Thu 27 Dec 2007 10:43:10a, Janet Baraclough told us...
>
>> The message >
>> from "Michael Kuettner" > contains these words:
>>
>>> Nutmeg is the nut; mace is the blossom.
>>
>> It's not the blossom. Mace is a lacy layer covering the nutmeg , both
>> are contained within an outer layer.
>>
>> see a pic of how they fit together at
>>
>> http://www.picturescolourlibrary.co....go/2166366.jpg
>>
>> Janet
>>
>
> Yes, I knew that, but apparently Michael did not. I use blades of mace
> with certain pickles that I make. A couple of times I have bought the
> nutmeg with the mace still surrounding it.
>
Since I don't know the English name of the thingy covering the seed
(the Arillus), I just called it blossom.
What's the English word for Arillus ?

Cheers,

Michael Kuettner

Michael Kuettner wrote:

>>
> Since I don't know the English name of the thingy covering the seed
> (the Arillus), I just called it blossom.
> What's the English word for Arillus ?
>


I think it's the aril.

gloria p

On Thu 27 Dec 2007 04:03:41p, Michael Kuettner told us...

>
> "Wayne Boatwright" > schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> 3.184...
>> On Thu 27 Dec 2007 10:43:10a, Janet Baraclough told us...
>>
>>> The message >
>>> from "Michael Kuettner" > contains these words:
>>>
>>>> Nutmeg is the nut; mace is the blossom.
>>>
>>> It's not the blossom. Mace is a lacy layer covering the nutmeg ,
both
>>> are contained within an outer layer.
>>>
>>> see a pic of how they fit together at
>>>
>>> http://www.picturescolourlibrary.co....go/2166366.jpg
>>>
>>> Janet
>>>
>>
>> Yes, I knew that, but apparently Michael did not. I use blades of mace
>> with certain pickles that I make. A couple of times I have bought the
>> nutmeg with the mace still surrounding it.
>>
> Since I don't know the English name of the thingy covering the seed
> (the Arillus), I just called it blossom.
> What's the English word for Arillus ?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Michael Kuettner
>
>
>
>

Michael, I was forgetting that English is not your native language. I
apologize. I don't think there is really one English word that is the
equivalent. Here is a definitiona;

n.) A exterior covering, forming a false coat or appendage to a seed, as
the loose, transparent bag inclosing the seed or the white water lily. The
mace of the nutmeg is also an aril.

Arillus: words in the definition
A, Also, An, Appendage, Aril, As, Bag, Coat, Covering, Exterior, False,
Forming, Inclosing, Is, Lily, Loose, Mace, Nutmeg, Of, Or, Seed, The, To,
Transparent, Water, White,


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Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
> On Wed 26 Dec 2007 06:40:06p, Arri London told us...
>

> >> Wayne Boatwright
> >
> > Two completely different flavours for me. One wouldn't be a substitute
> > for the other.
>
> I think it depends on what the use is. I agree that the flavors are
> different, but also think there's enough similarity that subbing wouldn't
> be a disaster in some dishes.
>
> --
> Wayne Boatwright

True enough. We always have both in the house so subbing is never an
issue. Rather like subbing anise seeds for fennel seeds; lots of people
do that but the two tastes are totally different to me.

"Wayne Boatwright" schrieb :
> On Thu 27 Dec 2007 04:03:41p, Michael Kuettner told us...
>
>>
>> "Wayne Boatwright" schrieb :
>>> On Thu 27 Dec 2007 10:43:10a, Janet Baraclough told us...
>>>
>>>> The message from "Michael Kuettner" contains these words:
>>>>
>>>>> Nutmeg is the nut; mace is the blossom.
>>>>
>>>> It's not the blossom. Mace is a lacy layer covering the nutmeg ,
> both
>>>> are contained within an outer layer.
>>>>
>>>> see a pic of how they fit together at
>>>>
>>>> http://www.picturescolourlibrary.co....go/2166366.jpg
>>>>
>>>> Janet
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, I knew that, but apparently Michael did not. I use blades of mace
>>> with certain pickles that I make. A couple of times I have bought the
>>> nutmeg with the mace still surrounding it.
>>>
>> Since I don't know the English name of the thingy covering the seed
>> (the Arillus), I just called it blossom.
>> What's the English word for Arillus ?
>>
>
> Michael, I was forgetting that English is not your native language. I
> apologize.

No worries. Aril or arillus isn't a word in everyday use.
And since my big dic is 400 km away ...

> I don't think there is really one English word that is the
> equivalent. Here is a definitiona;
>
> n.) A exterior covering, forming a false coat or appendage to a seed, as
> the loose, transparent bag inclosing the seed or the white water lily. The
> mace of the nutmeg is also an aril.
>
> Arillus: words in the definition
> A, Also, An, Appendage, Aril, As, Bag, Coat, Covering, Exterior, False,
> Forming, Inclosing, Is, Lily, Loose, Mace, Nutmeg, Of, Or, Seed, The, To,
> Transparent, Water, White,
>
Arillus: words in the definition
An appendage forming a false coat to bag Aril's exterior, inclosing Lily's
seed. Loose mace as nutmeg to the transparent white water.

I've post-modernized your poem for you ;-)

Cheers,

Michael Kuettner

PS : Thanks also to Gloria and Janet !

On Fri 28 Dec 2007 08:43:33a, Arri London told us...

>
>
> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>
>> On Wed 26 Dec 2007 06:40:06p, Arri London told us...
>>
>
>> >> Wayne Boatwright
>> >
>> > Two completely different flavours for me. One wouldn't be a substitute
>> > for the other.
>>
>> I think it depends on what the use is. I agree that the flavors are
>> different, but also think there's enough similarity that subbing
wouldn't
>> be a disaster in some dishes.
>>
>> --
>> Wayne Boatwright
>
> True enough. We always have both in the house so subbing is never an
> issue. Rather like subbing anise seeds for fennel seeds; lots of people
> do that but the two tastes are totally different to me.
>

Yep, you're right, and I usually have all of those in the house. There
have been a few times when I've run out of something and didn't know it.
Subbing was the only alternative. Now, if I were making Springerle, I
would definitely NOT substitute fennel seed for anise seed. :-)

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On Fri 28 Dec 2007 10:41:59a, Michael Kuettner told us...

>
> "Wayne Boatwright" schrieb :
>> On Thu 27 Dec 2007 04:03:41p, Michael Kuettner told us...
>>
>>>
>>> "Wayne Boatwright" schrieb :
>>>> On Thu 27 Dec 2007 10:43:10a, Janet Baraclough told us...
>>>>
>>>>> The message from "Michael Kuettner" contains these words:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Nutmeg is the nut; mace is the blossom.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's not the blossom. Mace is a lacy layer covering the nutmeg ,
>>>>> both
>>>>> are contained within an outer layer.
>>>>>
>>>>> see a pic of how they fit together at
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.picturescolourlibrary.co....go/2166366.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> Janet
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I knew that, but apparently Michael did not. I use blades of
mace
>>>> with certain pickles that I make. A couple of times I have bought the
>>>> nutmeg with the mace still surrounding it.
>>>>
>>> Since I don't know the English name of the thingy covering the seed
>>> (the Arillus), I just called it blossom.
>>> What's the English word for Arillus ?
>>>
>>
>> Michael, I was forgetting that English is not your native language. I
>> apologize.
>
> No worries. Aril or arillus isn't a word in everyday use.
> And since my big dic is 400 km away ...
>
>> I don't think there is really one English word that is the
>> equivalent. Here is a definitiona;
>>
>> n.) A exterior covering, forming a false coat or appendage to a seed, as
>> the loose, transparent bag inclosing the seed or the white water lily.
The
>> mace of the nutmeg is also an aril.
>>
>> Arillus: words in the definition
>> A, Also, An, Appendage, Aril, As, Bag, Coat, Covering, Exterior, False,
>> Forming, Inclosing, Is, Lily, Loose, Mace, Nutmeg, Of, Or, Seed, The,
To,
>> Transparent, Water, White,
>>
> Arillus: words in the definition
> An appendage forming a false coat to bag Aril's exterior, inclosing
Lily's
> seed. Loose mace as nutmeg to the transparent white water.
>
> I've post-modernized your poem for you ;-)

I like that!

> Cheers,
>
> Michael Kuettner
>
> PS : Thanks also to Gloria and Janet !
>
>
>
>
>



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On Fri 28 Dec 2007 12:13:05p, Janet Baraclough told us...

> The message >
> from "Michael Kuettner" > contains these words:
>
>
>> "Wayne Boatwright" schrieb :
>> > On Thu 27 Dec 2007 04:03:41p, Michael Kuettner told us...
>> >
>> >>
>> >> "Wayne Boatwright" schrieb :
>> >>> On Thu 27 Dec 2007 10:43:10a, Janet Baraclough told us...
>
>> > Michael, I was forgetting that English is not your native language. I
>> > apologize.
>
>> No worries. Aril or arillus isn't a word in everyday use.
>> And since my big dic is 400 km away ...
>
> Ohmigod. I do hope not....
>
> Janet.
>

Now that *would* cause separation anxiety <of another thread>. :-)

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