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It was cool, blustery.... a perfect soup day.
In a nostalgic mood, I heated up a few cans of Campbells Cream of Tomato Soup. This doesn't taste like the soup I remember. This stuff is ...SWEET ! Sweeter than tomato soup should taste. Aha.. second item in "ingredients" is Corn Syrup. Why in Gods name would you add corn syrup to Tomato soup ? It doesn't make the soup any "tomato-ier". Do the people at Campbells have any common sense at all ? There's always been "too much salt" in many of their soups. Now, Corn Syrup ?...............Why add these ingredients ? I've gotta find another soup-maker. <rj> |
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On Dec 25, 8:06 pm, "<RJ>" > wrote:
> It was cool, blustery.... a perfect soup day. > In a nostalgic mood, I heated up a few cans of > Campbells Cream of Tomato Soup. > > This doesn't taste like the soup I remember. > This stuff is ...SWEET ! > Sweeter than tomato soup should taste. > Aha.. second item in "ingredients" is Corn Syrup. > > Why in Gods name would you add corn syrup to Tomato soup ? > It doesn't make the soup any "tomato-ier". > > Do the people at Campbells have any common sense at all ? > There's always been "too much salt" in many of their soups. > Now, Corn Syrup ?...............Why add these ingredients ? > > I've gotta find another soup-maker. > > <rj> As a longtime cream of tomato soup lover, I feel your pain. I suspect that Campbell may be using inferior tomatoes, and the corn syrup is added in a failed attempt to make the product taste more like ripe tomatoes. You might try doing what I do: Use regular tomato soup but substitute milk or cream for some or all of the water, although the soup still doesn't taste as good as it used to. If it's available in your area, you might try the Pacific Natural Foods version. It is sold in those aseptic vacuum cartons. Pacific tastes the way Campbell's cream of tomato soup should taste. The brand is based in Oregon. Their website is www.pacificfoods.com. By the way, I have no affiliation with this organization. Cream of tomato soup is really good served with a pat of butter on top and a sprinkle of dill. :-) |
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![]() "<RJ>" > ha scritto nel messaggio ... > It was cool, blustery.... a perfect soup day. > In a nostalgic mood, I heated up a few cans of > Campbells Cream of Tomato Soup. > > This doesn't taste like the soup I remember. > This stuff is ...SWEET ! > Sweeter than tomato soup should taste. > Aha.. second item in "ingredients" is Corn Syrup. > > Why in Gods name would you add corn syrup to Tomato soup ? > It doesn't make the soup any "tomato-ier". > > Do the people at Campbells have any common sense at all ? > There's always been "too much salt" in many of their soups. > Now, Corn Syrup ?...............Why add these ingredients ? > > I've gotta find another soup-maker. > > <rj> Make it yourself. It's very easy and you can either can or freeze it for quick use. I think they use it because they can and it sells to a generation grown up sucking down sugar coated everything. Some people even add sugar to homemade tomato soup "to cut the acid." If you don't like the small amount of acidity in tomatoes, use cabbage or green beans for heaven's sake. -- http://www.judithgreenwood.com -- http://www.judithgreenwood.com |
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"<RJ>" > wrote in
: > It was cool, blustery.... a perfect soup day. > In a nostalgic mood, I heated up a few cans of > Campbells Cream of Tomato Soup. > > This doesn't taste like the soup I remember. > This stuff is ...SWEET ! > Sweeter than tomato soup should taste. > Aha.. second item in "ingredients" is Corn Syrup. > > Why in Gods name would you add corn syrup to Tomato soup ? > It doesn't make the soup any "tomato-ier". > > Do the people at Campbells have any common sense at all ? > There's always been "too much salt" in many of their soups. > Now, Corn Syrup ?...............Why add these ingredients ? > > I've gotta find another soup-maker. cream of tomato is pretty simple. you can control your own levels of sugar at least (& salt if you start with fresh tomatoes). tomato-carrot soup is really good too. the carrots add a bit of sweetness, but nothing like corn syrup ![]() lee <will post recipes if you're interested but i have to hand type with 2 fingers> |
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<RJ> wrote:
> It was cool, blustery.... a perfect soup day. > In a nostalgic mood, I heated up a few cans of > Campbells Cream of Tomato Soup. > > This doesn't taste like the soup I remember. > This stuff is ...SWEET ! > Sweeter than tomato soup should taste. > Aha.. second item in "ingredients" is Corn Syrup. > > Why in Gods name would you add corn syrup to Tomato soup ? > It doesn't make the soup any "tomato-ier". > > Do the people at Campbells have any common sense at all ? > There's always been "too much salt" in many of their soups. > Now, Corn Syrup ?...............Why add these ingredients ? > > I've gotta find another soup-maker. > I think they know, without the sweetener and salt, consumers wouldn't buy it more than once. (the best tomatoes aren't used for soups/juices) I made the 15-bean soup w/ham. Nothing to brag about..bland as usual...thank G for hot sauce. |
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<RJ> wrote:
> Do the people at Campbells have any common sense at all ? > There's always been "too much salt" in many of their soups. > Now, Corn Syrup ?...............Why add these ingredients ? > > I've gotta find another soup-maker. > > <rj> I've often whined about that very thing here. It is ghastly! I've found that store brands are often better tasting for this food, short of making your own. Give them a try. |
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<RJ> wrote:
> It was cool, blustery.... a perfect soup day. > In a nostalgic mood, I heated up a few cans of > Campbells Cream of Tomato Soup. > > This doesn't taste like the soup I remember. > This stuff is ...SWEET ! > Sweeter than tomato soup should taste. > Aha.. second item in "ingredients" is Corn Syrup. > > Why in Gods name would you add corn syrup to Tomato soup ? > It doesn't make the soup any "tomato-ier". > > Do the people at Campbells have any common sense at all ? > There's always been "too much salt" in many of their soups. > Now, Corn Syrup ?...............Why add these ingredients ? > > I've gotta find another soup-maker. > > <rj> Unfortunately all of the industrial food manufacturers have decided that people no longer have any taste and anything made with tomatoes can never ever be savory and must be as sweet as a dessert topping. |
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George wrote:
> > Unfortunately all of the industrial food manufacturers have decided that > people no longer have any taste and anything made with tomatoes can > never ever be savory and must be as sweet as a dessert topping. Maybe they have a good sense of the market segment they're appealing to. I like tomatoes to taste savory, not sweet, so I buy plain canned tomatoes or use fresh. When I want soup, I make it from those ingredients. I don't look for canned soup. Perhaps the manufacturers know they're not going to get my business anyway so they try to appeal to the people who want sweet. --Lia |
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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 12:39:13 +0000 (UTC), enigma >
wrote: > <will post recipes if you're interested but i have to hand >type with 2 fingers> There are so many recipes on the net... you can probably find one that's close enough to yours and just change a couple of things to post. What have you done to yourself? -- See return address to reply by email remove the smiley face first |
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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 09:11:37 -0500, Jon v Leipzig >
wrote: >I made the 15-bean soup w/ham. Nothing to brag about..bland as >usual...thank G for hot sauce. Bland? Why??? You need some onion, son and beans need salt. If the ham didn't do it, you needed to add extra. -- See return address to reply by email remove the smiley face first |
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On Dec 25, 11:06�pm, "<RJ>" > wrote:
> It was cool, blustery.... a perfect soup day. > In a nostalgic mood, �I heated up a few cans of > Campbells Cream of Tomato Soup. > > This doesn't taste like the soup I remember. > This stuff is ...SWEET ! > Sweeter than tomato soup should taste. > Aha.. �second item in "ingredients" is Corn Syrup. > > Why in Gods name would you add corn syrup to Tomato soup ? > It doesn't make the soup any "tomato-ier". > > Do the people at Campbells have any common sense at all ? > There's always been "too much salt" in many of their soups. > Now, Corn Syrup ?...............Why add these ingredients ? > > I've gotta find another soup-maker. Look in the mirror... the only thing easier than tomato soup is boiling water... doesn't get any dumber than buying canned tomato soup and then complaining about it. duh |
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On Dec 25, 11:06�pm, "<RJ>" > wrote:
> It was cool, blustery.... a perfect soup day. > In a nostalgic mood, �I heated up a few cans of > Campbells Cream of Tomato Soup. > > This doesn't taste like the soup I remember. > This stuff is ...SWEET ! > Sweeter than tomato soup should taste. > Aha.. �second item in "ingredients" is Corn Syrup. > > Why in Gods name would you add corn syrup to Tomato soup ? > It doesn't make the soup any "tomato-ier". > > Do the people at Campbells have any common sense at all ? > There's always been "too much salt" in many of their soups. > Now, Corn Syrup ?...............Why add these ingredients ? > > I've gotta find another soup-maker. > > <rj> Look in the mirror... the only thing easier than tomato soup is boiling water... doesn't get any dumber than buying canned tomato soup and then complaining about it. duh Did you ever think that perhaps because you're older your taste has changed, and maybe you're on drugs, really. |
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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 09:11:37 -0500, Jon v Leipzig >
wrote: > >I made the 15-bean soup w/ham. Nothing to brag about..bland as >usual...thank G for hot sauce. did you have black pepper in the recipe? i use a goodly amount in my one-bean with ham soup. a bay leaf might also help. your pal, blake |
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"<RJ>" > wrote in message
... > It was cool, blustery.... a perfect soup day. > In a nostalgic mood, I heated up a few cans of > Campbells Cream of Tomato Soup. > > This doesn't taste like the soup I remember. > This stuff is ...SWEET ! > Sweeter than tomato soup should taste. > Aha.. second item in "ingredients" is Corn Syrup. > > Why in Gods name would you add corn syrup to Tomato soup ? > It doesn't make the soup any "tomato-ier". > > Do the people at Campbells have any common sense at all ? > There's always been "too much salt" in many of their soups. > Now, Corn Syrup ?...............Why add these ingredients ? > > I've gotta find another soup-maker. > > <rj> DO NOT write to Campbell and complain about the product. I repeat: Don't write to them. |
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sf wrote in :
> On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 12:39:13 +0000 (UTC), enigma > > wrote: > >> <will post recipes if you're interested but i have to hand >>type with 2 fingers> > > There are so many recipes on the net... you can probably > find one that's close enough to yours and just change a > couple of things to post. > > What have you done to yourself? i have nerve damage to the ulnar nerve in my left arm. i smashed my elbow against a wall in college, causing a bone bruise. that swelling damaged the nerve. mostly it's just background annoyance, like hitting your funny bone but it never stops feeling like that. it also prevents me from having very good fine muscle control over the pinkie, ring & middle fingers on my left hand. so i type with my forefinger & thumb of my right hand. i can actually type fairly fast unless i'm transcribing. after 30+ years i'm pretty used to it. lee -- Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear. - Thomas Jefferson |
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"JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote in
: > DO NOT write to Campbell and complain about the product. I > repeat: Don't write to them. voice of experience? what happens? do they sell your address to every spam mailer in the world? lee |
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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 20:27:14 +0000 (UTC), enigma >
wrote: >sf wrote in : > >> >> What have you done to yourself? > >i have nerve damage to the ulnar nerve in my left arm. i >smashed my elbow against a wall in college, causing a bone >bruise. that swelling damaged the nerve. mostly it's just >background annoyance, like hitting your funny bone but it >never stops feeling like that. it also prevents me from having >very good fine muscle control over the pinkie, ring & middle >fingers on my left hand. so i type with my forefinger & thumb >of my right hand. i can actually type fairly fast unless i'm >transcribing. > after 30+ years i'm pretty used to it. Ugh! Nerve damage is a terrible thing. I don't know if I could ever get used to it. -- See return address to reply by email remove the smiley face first |
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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 20:29:00 +0000 (UTC), enigma >
wrote: >"JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote in : > >> DO NOT write to Campbell and complain about the product. I >> repeat: Don't write to them. > >voice of experience? what happens? do they sell your address to >every spam mailer in the world? I think it was his attempt at reverse psychology. -- See return address to reply by email remove the smiley face first |
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enigma wrote:
> "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote in > : > >> DO NOT write to Campbell and complain about the product. I >> repeat: Don't write to them. > > voice of experience? what happens? do they sell your address to > every spam mailer in the world? > lee I think Joe is being sarcastic, implying that the OP should write to Campbell and not to rfc for remedy. gloria p |
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"Puester" > wrote in message
... > enigma wrote: >> "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote in >> : >>> DO NOT write to Campbell and complain about the product. I >>> repeat: Don't write to them. >> >> voice of experience? what happens? do they sell your address to every >> spam mailer in the world? >> lee > > > I think Joe is being sarcastic, implying that the OP should write to > Campbell and not to rfc for remedy. > > gloria p You win the prize. I don't know for sure what goes on in other people's homes, but I'd bet $100 that the OP won't even call the toll free number on the soup can's label, much less mail a letter to the manufacturer. Were you around for the million message Breyers ice cream shrinking package debate a year or two ago? Funny. |
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> "Puester" > wrote in message >> I think Joe is being sarcastic, implying that the OP should write to >> Campbell and not to rfc for remedy. >> >> gloria p > > > You win the prize. I don't know for sure what goes on in other people's > homes, but I'd bet $100 that the OP won't even call the toll free number on > the soup can's label, much less mail a letter to the manufacturer. > > Were you around for the million message Breyers ice cream shrinking package > debate a year or two ago? Funny. > I've been online since 1994 or 95 and rfc is one of the first sites I subscribed to. I think many people are hesitant to complain to mfgs. because they think no one will pay any attention to their complaint or that they are the only ones who dislike the product. I usually don't complain, I just buy a different product. gloria p |
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"Puester" > wrote in message
... > JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >> "Puester" > wrote in message > >>> I think Joe is being sarcastic, implying that the OP should write to >>> Campbell and not to rfc for remedy. >>> >>> gloria p >> >> >> You win the prize. I don't know for sure what goes on in other people's >> homes, but I'd bet $100 that the OP won't even call the toll free number >> on the soup can's label, much less mail a letter to the manufacturer. >> >> Were you around for the million message Breyers ice cream shrinking >> package debate a year or two ago? Funny. > > I've been online since 1994 or 95 and rfc is one of the first sites I > subscribed to. > > I think many people are hesitant to complain to mfgs. because they think > no one will pay any attention to their complaint or that they are the only > ones who dislike the product. I usually don't complain, I just buy a > different product. > > gloria p > I think many people have some sort of actual fear of speaking to corporations. It's bizarre. But, corporations do listen sometimes. Back in November, I found I could no longer get Arnold Jewish rye at Wegman's. While that's not the be-all and end-all of rye bread, it was the best they had in their stores. Actually, in the mutant neighborhoods, that was the ONLY rye bread they had, so when it was gone, there was no rye at all. When I wrote to them, they said "it was discontinued". No kidding? I pointed out in a second email that I *never* shop at two different stores. If I had to go to their competitor for a couple of unique items, my entire shopping list would go with me, and they'd lose much more than the $3.00 for a loaf of bread. So, either give us product that equal or better than the one they discontinued, or bye bye money. A lot of other people must've bitched, too, because Arnold rye is back. |
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JoeSpareBedroom > wrote in message
... [snip] > A lot of other people must've bitched, too, because > Arnold rye is back. "A Letter is equal to 1000 customers' voices. Corporations listen when you write." - Prof. Emeritus Lawrence Laury, SJSU 1988 |
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![]() "<RJ>" > wrote in message ... > It was cool, blustery.... a perfect soup day. > In a nostalgic mood, I heated up a few cans of > Campbells Cream of Tomato Soup. > > This doesn't taste like the soup I remember. > This stuff is ...SWEET ! > Sweeter than tomato soup should taste. > Aha.. second item in "ingredients" is Corn Syrup. > > Why in Gods name would you add corn syrup to Tomato soup ? > It doesn't make the soup any "tomato-ier". > > Do the people at Campbells have any common sense at all ? > There's always been "too much salt" in many of their soups. > Now, Corn Syrup ?...............Why add these ingredients ? > > I've gotta find another soup-maker. > > <rj> It's not only corn syrup...it's high fructose corn syrup, which is sweeter even than corn syrup! I never liked canned soup, except for Campbell's tomato...and now I can't stand that. It makes me so sad that I'll never have the real stuff again. It was part of every cold when I was a kid, tomato soup and grilled cheese. kimberly |
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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 23:07:13 -0800, "Nexis" > wrote:
>It was part >of every cold when I was a kid, tomato soup and grilled cheese. Oh, I *do* remember that.... and Jello was part of every "throwing up" type flu. -- See return address to reply by email remove the smiley face first |
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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 20:29:00 +0000 (UTC), enigma >
wrote: >"JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote in : > >> DO NOT write to Campbell and complain about the product. I >> repeat: Don't write to them. > >voice of experience? what happens? do they sell your address to >every spam mailer in the world? >lee the campbell's kids came over and kneecapped his ass. your pal, blake |
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The Ranger wrote:
> JoeSpareBedroom > wrote in message > ... > [snip] >> A lot of other people must've bitched, too, because >> Arnold rye is back. > > "A Letter is equal to 1000 customers' voices. Corporations listen > when you write." > - Prof. Emeritus Lawrence Laury, SJSU 1988 > > Not with megacorps. I had an issue with wachovia. I had numerous people shaking their heads when I related the story. I wrote a polite letter to the ceo/presidents/chairman's (same guy) office explaining that their actions defied any logic and none of their people who could be reached by phone did anything more than give me the "we are megacorp and you are a little meaningless piece of crap so just go away" line. A literate and polite woman called back and I explained the scenario and she very, very politely told me that thats the way they do things at megabank. |
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George > wrote in message
. .. > The Ranger wrote: >> JoeSpareBedroom > wrote in message >> ... >> [snip] >>> A lot of other people must've bitched, too, because >>> Arnold rye is back. >>> >> "A Letter is equal to 1000 customers' voices. Corporations >> listen when you write." >> - Prof. Emeritus Lawrence Laury, SJSU 1988 > Not with megacorps. I had an issue with wachovia. I > had numerous people shaking their heads when I > related the story. > I wrote a polite letter to the ceo/presidents/chairman's > (same guy) office explaining that their actions defied > any logic and none of their people who could be > reached by phone did anything more than give me the "we are > megacorp and you are a little meaningless > piece of crap so just go away" line. A literate and > polite woman called back and I explained the > scenario and she very, very politely told me that > thats the way they do things at megabank. I've also run into that with WAMU (another 'institutional' bank that has systems in place to confound and disrupt customer service.) But... I still write my Letters and have enjoyed many more successes than failures. For those, like WAMU, that are clearly unwilling to listen to my complaint, I post warnings everywhere I can. My favorite electronic source is the BBB.org. Many will not use them (coincidently, the same that bitch-and-moan aloud but won't write A Letter or post a warning) and consider them impotent but, again, my experiences are often vastly different. Please keep writing your Letters! ObFood: Fire Fighter's Omelet; habanero, jalapeño, and Serraño chopped together with Monterey Jack. The Ranger |
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Could we draw a distinction between complaints and complaints?
The original poster wrote to say that he preferred Campbell's old recipe for canned tomato soup. The new one is too sweet for his tastes. I agree that I probably wouldn't like the product if I tried it, but I'm not sure Campbell's has really done anything wrong here. The ingredients are listed. The contents are what's listed as advertised. Tastes will always differ, and it's a safe bet that the folks at Campbell's know that. Writing a letter to the company probably would do no harm, but I wouldn't count on the company changing their product, and if they don't listen to the consumer in this instance, that's a good reason not to buy a product that you don't like, but I wouldn't malign the company. They haven't done anything worse than making a product that you don't like. Contrast that with some of the horror stories we all have of companies or stores advertising one thing and then not coming through with even the basics of delivering what was promised or what one could reasonably expect in the way of service, situations where you end feeling like you could win a court case if it were worth the trouble. I'll bet some of us have been in situations where we have a sudden and disturbing sympathy with the people who go berserk and start shooting at people who work in offices. Different story there. Write the letter. Make some noise. (And resist the urge to shoot people.) --Lia |
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t: > JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >> "Puester" > wrote in message > >>> I think Joe is being sarcastic, implying that the OP >>> should write to Campbell and not to rfc for remedy. >>> >>> gloria p >> >> >> You win the prize. I don't know for sure what goes on in >> other people's homes, but I'd bet $100 that the OP won't >> even call the toll free number on the soup can's label, >> much less mail a letter to the manufacturer. >> >> Were you around for the million message Breyers ice cream >> shrinking package debate a year or two ago? Funny. >> > > I've been online since 1994 or 95 and rfc is one of the > first sites I subscribed to. > > I think many people are hesitant to complain to mfgs. > because they think no one will pay any attention to their > complaint or that they are the only ones who dislike the > product. I usually don't complain, I just buy a different > product. i complain if i have a complaint. how else would they know i hate their product or the packaging or...? ![]() i also call & tell them if they actually do something really good too. most companies are quite responsive to criticism & try to 'make things right' if they can. some companies will inundate you with coupons forever... lee |
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![]() <sf> wrote in message ... > On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 23:07:13 -0800, "Nexis" > wrote: > >>It was part >>of every cold when I was a kid, tomato soup and grilled cheese. > > Oh, I *do* remember that.... and Jello was part of every "throwing up" > type flu. > Yes!! Jell-o and chicken broth. kimberly |
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On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 03:20:01 GMT, Puester > wrote:
>I think many people are hesitant to complain to mfgs. because they think >no one will pay any attention to their complaint or that they are the >only ones who dislike the product. I usually don't complain, I just buy >a different product. > >gloria p I am the original plaintiff. ( L&O jargon ) I guess I posted my plaint here for some opinion of "why they'd screw up their soups". Internet makes it easier to complain direct to the manufacturer, and I have in several instances. I've received denials, a couple "we're TERRIBLY sorry"s, and a few coupons for a replacement product...... But I'm not dumb enough to think I can change the way Campbells makes soup. One other poster was right.... look for a different product. <rj> |
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![]() enigma wrote: > Puester > wrote in > > t: > > > JoeSpareBedroom wrote: > >> "Puester" > wrote in message > > > >>> I think Joe is being sarcastic, implying that the OP > >>> should write to Campbell and not to rfc for remedy. > >>> > >>> gloria p > >> > >> > >> You win the prize. I don't know for sure what goes on in > >> other people's homes, but I'd bet $100 that the OP won't > >> even call the toll free number on the soup can's label, > >> much less mail a letter to the manufacturer. > >> > >> Were you around for the million message Breyers ice cream > >> shrinking package debate a year or two ago? Funny. > >> > > > > I've been online since 1994 or 95 and rfc is one of the > > first sites I subscribed to. > > > > I think many people are hesitant to complain to mfgs. > > because they think no one will pay any attention to their > > complaint or that they are the only ones who dislike the > > product. I usually don't complain, I just buy a different > > product. > > i complain if i have a complaint. how else would they know i > hate their product or the packaging or...? ![]() > i also call & tell them if they actually do something really > good too. > most companies are quite responsive to criticism & try to > 'make things right' if they can. some companies will inundate > you with coupons forever... Yup...it's true...remember last year or so when someone here mentioned that Heinz 57 Sauce was unavailable/in short supply. They mentioned that they wrote Heinz and were sent a coupon good for a free bottle of the product. I wrote and got a coupon too, others here did the same... -- Best Greg |
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