On Dec 28, 5:49*pm, sf wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 22:25:15 GMT, jay > wrote:
> >On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 16:45:24 -0600, Sqwertz wrote:
>
> >> Tabasco sauce sucks. *If they'd start using a decent amounf of
> >> mash in it instead of watering it down more and more each year,
> >> then they might have a decent product.
>
> >Quote from website:
>
> >"The pepper sauce that Edmund McIlhenny created in 1868 on Avery Island is
> >much the same TABASCO® Sauce that is produced today, on that very same
> >site. The basic recipe, the process by which itÿs made, and the ingredients
> >remain unchanged."
>
> >So your statement above that they are "watering it down more and more each
> >year" is again.. just more of your invented bull shit?
>
> He's getting older and taste buds dull with age... so he's using
> hotter and hotter sauces. *I like Tabasco; I like the bite and I like
> the faint vinegary undertone. *

"Faint"? Like it or not, how could anyone describe that ninety-some %
vinegar stuff as having a "faint vinegary undertone"?

--Bryan

sf wrote:
>
> >Perhaps they sell more than everyone else, likely more than all others
> >put together...
> >
> >I would highly doubt that
> >
> > out selling the competion is the best indication of being the *best*.
>
> Yes, best seller.
> >
> >Nope. it isn't a good indication at all
> > Heck, isn't Budweiser the leading seller of swill in America? I can
> >walk into any store anywhere and find a much better beer than Budweiser.
> >
> That statement is your opinion and your opinion doesn't prove or
> disprove anything.
> >
> >I haven't bought a bottle of Tabasco in years. Maybe 7 or 8. and I use
> >hot sauce almost every day
> >
> Which proves what? I can tell you what it proves to me: You use hot
> sauce almost daily.

I think that it is a decent example for his point that being the most
popular product does not make it the best. Tabasco sauce has product
recognition. For years, it was the only hot sauce available around here.
It remains popular, but we now have a lot more options. Beer and soft
drinks really heavily on advertising to sales. Wonder Bread has always been
a big seller, but you would have a hard time convincing me and many others
that it is the best bread.

On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 07:36:01 -0800 (PST), "Bobo Bonobo®"
> wrote:

>On Dec 28, 5:49*pm, sf wrote:
>> On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 22:25:15 GMT, jay > wrote:
>> >On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 16:45:24 -0600, Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>> >> Tabasco sauce sucks. *If they'd start using a decent amounf of
>> >> mash in it instead of watering it down more and more each year,
>> >> then they might have a decent product.
>>
>> >Quote from website:
>>
>> >"The pepper sauce that Edmund McIlhenny created in 1868 on Avery Island is
>> >much the same TABASCO® Sauce that is produced today, on that very same
>> >site. The basic recipe, the process by which itÿs made, and the ingredients
>> >remain unchanged."
>>
>> >So your statement above that they are "watering it down more and more each
>> >year" is again.. just more of your invented bull shit?
>>
>> He's getting older and taste buds dull with age... so he's using
>> hotter and hotter sauces. *I like Tabasco; I like the bite and I like
>> the faint vinegary undertone. *
>
>"Faint"? Like it or not, how could anyone describe that ninety-some %
>vinegar stuff as having a "faint vinegary undertone"?
>
Ah. Your opinionated rant continues. Reading comprehension isn't
your strongest trait, is it? I said FAINT.

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On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 12:03:42 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>sf wrote:
>>
>> >Perhaps they sell more than everyone else, likely more than all others
>> >put together...
>> >
>> >I would highly doubt that
>> >
>> > out selling the competion is the best indication of being the *best*.
>>
>> Yes, best seller.
>> >
>> >Nope. it isn't a good indication at all
>> > Heck, isn't Budweiser the leading seller of swill in America? I can
>> >walk into any store anywhere and find a much better beer than Budweiser.
>> >
>> That statement is your opinion and your opinion doesn't prove or
>> disprove anything.
>> >
>> >I haven't bought a bottle of Tabasco in years. Maybe 7 or 8. and I use
>> >hot sauce almost every day
>> >
>> Which proves what? I can tell you what it proves to me: You use hot
>> sauce almost daily.
>
>I think that it is a decent example for his point that being the most
>popular product does not make it the best. Tabasco sauce has product
>recognition. For years, it was the only hot sauce available around here.
>It remains popular, but we now have a lot more options. Beer and soft
>drinks really heavily on advertising to sales. Wonder Bread has always been
>a big seller, but you would have a hard time convincing me and many others
>that it is the best bread.

"Best" is an opinion - not fact. Create industry standards to measure
"best", then get back to me.

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<sf> wrote in message ...
> On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 12:03:42 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>>sf wrote:
>>>
>>> >Perhaps they sell more than everyone else, likely more than all others
>>> >put together...
>>> >
>>> >I would highly doubt that
>>> >
>>> > out selling the competion is the best indication of being the *best*.
>>>
>>> Yes, best seller.
>>> >
>>> >Nope. it isn't a good indication at all
>>> > Heck, isn't Budweiser the leading seller of swill in America? I
>>> > can
>>> >walk into any store anywhere and find a much better beer than
>>> >Budweiser.
>>> >
>>> That statement is your opinion and your opinion doesn't prove or
>>> disprove anything.
>>> >
>>> >I haven't bought a bottle of Tabasco in years. Maybe 7 or 8. and I
>>> >use
>>> >hot sauce almost every day
>>> >
>>> Which proves what? I can tell you what it proves to me: You use hot
>>> sauce almost daily.
>>
>>I think that it is a decent example for his point that being the most
>>popular product does not make it the best. Tabasco sauce has product
>>recognition. For years, it was the only hot sauce available around here.
>>It remains popular, but we now have a lot more options. Beer and soft
>>drinks really heavily on advertising to sales. Wonder Bread has always
>>been
>>a big seller, but you would have a hard time convincing me and many others
>>that it is the best bread.
>
> "Best" is an opinion - not fact. Create industry standards to measure
> "best", then get back to me.
>
Wasnt it you that said it was best? The onus should be on you


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Sqwertz > wrote:

>I've tried one of Mikes sauces ("Who's Your Daddy" sauce - did
>you have to change the label for that one?) and it was quite
>tasty. Better than Tabasco, fer sure.

Is this sauce made from Tabasco peppers? There are lots of
hot sauces but if there's a Tabasco one that's better than
Tabasco brand, I haven't come across it.

Steve

sf wrote:
>
> >I think that it is a decent example for his point that being the most
> >popular product does not make it the best. Tabasco sauce has product
> >recognition. For years, it was the only hot sauce available around here.
> >It remains popular, but we now have a lot more options. Beer and soft
> >drinks really heavily on advertising to sales. Wonder Bread has always been
> >a big seller, but you would have a hard time convincing me and many others
> >that it is the best bread.
>
> "Best" is an opinion - not fact. Create industry standards to measure
> "best", then get back to me.

Industry standards are pretty well restricted to what sells the most, which
is often affected by advertising, price and availability. Selling the most
does not mean it is the best.

Sqwertz > wrote:

>On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 01:08:37 +0000 (UTC), Steve Pope wrote:

>> Sqwertz > wrote:

>>>I've tried one of Mikes sauces ("Who's Your Daddy" sauce - did
>>>you have to change the label for that one?) and it was quite
>>>tasty. Better than Tabasco, fer sure.

>> Is this sauce made from Tabasco peppers? There are lots of
>> hot sauces but if there's a Tabasco one that's better than
>> Tabasco brand, I haven't come across it.

>This was a jalapeno/chipotle based sauce.

Thanks. Going from memory (I decline to check Wikipedia every
time I post something...), tabasco peppers are their own
species, different from common hot chili peppers, and there's
something in the Tabasco sauce flavor that I like, even
though I agree on an overall basis it's not a really excellent sauce.

Maybe I should try to hunt down some fresh or frozen ones.

Steve

On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 05:33:24 GMT, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 05:18:19 +0000 (UTC), Steve Pope wrote:
>
>> Thanks. Going from memory (I decline to check Wikipedia every
>> time I post something...), tabasco peppers are their own
>> species, different from common hot chili peppers, and there's
>> something in the Tabasco sauce flavor that I like, even
>> though I agree on an overall basis it's not a really excellent sauce.
>
>There's really nothing special about the tabasco pepper itself.
>Tabasco sauce gets it's flavor from being aged as a mash. It's
>not unlike making kimchi or fermented pickles, just using peppers
>instead of cabbage or cukes.
>
>http://www.fiery-foods.com/dave/hotsauce.html
>
>I really don't think the three years is necessary, as the article
>mentions. And I doubt McIlheny ages for 3 years either - despite
>what the article says. The whole "island" would be filled with
>barrels.
>
>Huy Fong Sriracha, while not advertised, is made from an aged
>jalapeno mash. But not for 3 years.
>
>-sw

interesting site, steve. thanks.

your pal,
blake

Steve Pope wrote:

> Thanks. Going from memory (I decline to check Wikipedia every
> time I post something...), tabasco peppers are their own
> species, different from common hot chili peppers, and there's
> something in the Tabasco sauce flavor that I like, even
> though I agree on an overall basis it's not a really excellent sauce.
>
> Maybe I should try to hunt down some fresh or frozen ones.

We visited the Tabasco factory in Louisiana a few years ago. IIRC, they
have contract farms growing their species of peppers for them so I don't
know how easy it would be to get them fresh or frozen.

We like Cholula sauce. It's made in Mexico and imported. It has a wooden
top on the bottle. It's hot, but it has more flavor than fire.

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On Mon 31 Dec 2007 12:41:10p, Janet Wilder told us...

> Steve Pope wrote:
>
>> Thanks. Going from memory (I decline to check Wikipedia every
>> time I post something...), tabasco peppers are their own
>> species, different from common hot chili peppers, and there's
>> something in the Tabasco sauce flavor that I like, even
>> though I agree on an overall basis it's not a really excellent sauce.
>>
>> Maybe I should try to hunt down some fresh or frozen ones.
>
> We visited the Tabasco factory in Louisiana a few years ago. IIRC, they
> have contract farms growing their species of peppers for them so I don't
> know how easy it would be to get them fresh or frozen.
>
> We like Cholula sauce. It's made in Mexico and imported. It has a wooden
> top on the bottle. It's hot, but it has more flavor than fire.
>

I didn't discover Cholula sauce until we moved to AZ. I really like the
flavor, and it's hot enough for me for most applications.

--
Wayne Boatwright

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On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 14:22:52 -0800, "Mike"
> wrote:

>
><sf> wrote in message ...
>> On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 12:03:42 -0500, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>sf wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >Perhaps they sell more than everyone else, likely more than all others
>>>> >put together...
>>>> >
>>>> >I would highly doubt that
>>>> >
>>>> > out selling the competion is the best indication of being the *best*.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, best seller.
>>>> >
>>>> >Nope. it isn't a good indication at all
>>>> > Heck, isn't Budweiser the leading seller of swill in America? I
>>>> > can
>>>> >walk into any store anywhere and find a much better beer than
>>>> >Budweiser.
>>>> >
>>>> That statement is your opinion and your opinion doesn't prove or
>>>> disprove anything.
>>>> >
>>>> >I haven't bought a bottle of Tabasco in years. Maybe 7 or 8. and I
>>>> >use
>>>> >hot sauce almost every day
>>>> >
>>>> Which proves what? I can tell you what it proves to me: You use hot
>>>> sauce almost daily.
>>>
>>>I think that it is a decent example for his point that being the most
>>>popular product does not make it the best. Tabasco sauce has product
>>>recognition. For years, it was the only hot sauce available around here.
>>>It remains popular, but we now have a lot more options. Beer and soft
>>>drinks really heavily on advertising to sales. Wonder Bread has always
>>>been
>>>a big seller, but you would have a hard time convincing me and many others
>>>that it is the best bread.
>>
>> "Best" is an opinion - not fact. Create industry standards to measure
>> "best", then get back to me.
>>
>Wasnt it you that said it was best? The onus should be on you
>
Nope, not me... I was responding to it.

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