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A few developments with regard to the food
I'm planning to bring to a New Year's Day party. 1. A friend who wanted to go, for whom I obtained an invitation, has dropped out. My original plan was to make gnudi, then the plan changed to him and his wife making the gnudi, and I would make wonton. After he dropped out, I thought I would make the gnudi AND two kinds of wonton. 2. The eBay seller of the silver basket I was going to use to serve the wonton has informed me this morning that she forgot all about it, and will send it today. She could have sent it a week ago, in which case I'd have it already, but now there's no chance I'll have it in time for the party. Maybe that's for the best -- it may have been too ambitious to plan simultaneous landings on the Moon and Mars. One is difficult enough. By the way, the silver serving tray with glass insert did arrive. It's never been used before, as evidenced by the sealed cellophane envelope containing the handle for the lid and the attachment screw, and the little bit of tape with a little piece of gift wrap attached to the outside of the original box. Probably a wedding present. Hope the divorce went well! :-) 3. Lidia had a program on TV this morning in which she made gnudi. I made copious notes, as well as visiting her web site: http://recipes.lidiasitaly.com/Produ...?productID=623 I note some variances between the program on TV and the on-line recipe. No chicken stock was used on TV -- only the gnudi water was used for making the sauce. The TV show didn't explain anything about how to prep the spinach, but the on-line recipe goes into great detail. On TV, she only once mentioned the herb used in the sauce, and I missed it. The on-line recipe is explicit that it is sage. Variances from the recipe sf posted from Giada De Laurentiis include the latter using frozen spinach, not draining the ricotta before use, and using a prepared marinara sauce. For sure, I do not want to use any tomato-based sauce on my gnudi. Lidia used a sage-butter sauce, and that's exactly what I was looking for (but did not know it until a few minutes ago). Thank you, Lidia! |
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![]() "Mark Thorson" > ha scritto nel messaggio ... > Variances from the recipe sf posted from Giada De > Laurentiis include the latter using frozen spinach, > not draining the ricotta before use, and using a > prepared marinara sauce. For sure, I do not want > to use any tomato-based sauce on my gnudi. Lidia > used a sage-butter sauce, and that's exactly what > I was looking for (but did not know it until a few > minutes ago). Thank you, Lidia! Lidia is a great resource. I often find her more authentic or usable than Hazan, who is also very good, however. I find the little I've read of Giada to be very Americanized. -- http://www.judithgreenwood.com |
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Mark Thorson wrote:
> > Lidia had a program on TV this morning in which > she made gnudi. I made copious notes, as well as > visiting her web site: > > http://recipes.lidiasitaly.com/Produ...?productID=623 > > I note some variances between the program on TV > and the on-line recipe. No chicken stock was used > on TV -- only the gnudi water was used for making > the sauce. The TV show didn't explain anything > about how to prep the spinach, but the on-line > recipe goes into great detail. On TV, she only > once mentioned the herb used in the sauce, and > I missed it. The on-line recipe is explicit that > it is sage. 24 hours ago (a little more, actually), I cut up a nice baguette into slices which have been drying ever since, to be used in the "bread crumbs" role. Today, I spent much of the afternoon inspecting and de-stemming five bunches of spinach ($1.49/bunch from the Chinese food store, but more if I bought it elsewhere). Each bunch was cleansed in a washing-machine-like motion in my salad spinner with three changes of water, spun dry, and blanched in a big pot of boiling salted water for 60 seconds. I thoroughly shook off the water when removing the spinach from the boiling water, and set aside to cool. Additional liquid exuded during cooling which I collected and drank. It was very good, not bitter like you might expect. Very savory. Wow. This might be a discovery of merit. The spinach is now cooling in the fridge. I had to get this part done this afternoon, so I could use my salad spinner as a colander for draining the ricotta. A variance from Lidia's recipe is that I am not using cheesecloth to drain the ricotta. I'm using Viva Ultra paper towels, which are paper towels so strong that you can rinse them out, dry them, and re-use them, though I seldom do that anymore. You can even use them as coffee filters, if you run out of filters due to poor, incompetent planning on your part. Three pounds of ricotta are currently draining on paper towel in my salad spinner in my fridge. That may be more than I need, but I wasn't prepared to take any chances. I'll be spending not less than $100 worth of my time making this gnudi, so taking a chance on saving $4.99 on an extra pound of ricotta I might not need makes no sense. The current plan is to follow Lidia's recipe, except with regard to the chicken stock. The sage-butter sauce will be made as seen on TV, not as described on the web site (i.e. using the gnudi water rather than chicken broth). The question which is tormenting me right now is whether to use my chunk of Pecorino Romano cheese in the gnudi. The recipe only calls for ricotta and Parmasean, which I have in the form of an American ricotta (Calabro brand) and an Italian Parmigiano Reggiano cheese. My concern is that the romano could be too overpowering for these other cheeses (mildly overpowering would be acceptable, but I don't have a metric for testing that). My current feeling is that ricotta and parmasean should be enough, and the risk of ruining everything with a powerful sheep's milk cheese just isn't worth the gamble. Now that I'm not doing wonton anymore or fooling with cream cheese, I look askance at the block of Romano, like it was a piece of plutonium. The safe thing to do is follow Lidia's recipe with no significant variances. |
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