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I was skimming a Better Homes & Gardens Cookbook ca 1962
when I found a recipe suitable for "Mockery & Derision"

"15 Minute Banquet"

Cut Can of SPAM into 12 slices
stud with cloves, brown in fry pan.

Add 1 X 11oz can of yams, drained
sprinkle with salt !

Spoon 1/3 c pineapple jam over meat & yams

Heat uncovered, basting often.

Serves 4

People really ate like that 40 years ago ?
SPAM and a small can of yams to feed four ?

Amazing !

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> I was skimming a Better Homes & Gardens Cookbook ca 1962
> when I found a recipe suitable for "Mockery & Derision"
>
> "15 Minute Banquet"
>
> Cut Can of SPAM into 12 slices
> stud with cloves, brown in fry pan.
>
> Add 1 X 11oz can of yams, drained
> sprinkle with salt !
>
> Spoon 1/3 c pineapple jam over meat & yams
>
> Heat uncovered, basting often.


That might not be to bad if it were "real" ham instead of SPAM, "real" sweet
potatoes (steamed, roasted, whatever) instead of canned. Perhaps you could
heat them that way, but only if you like them on the "extremely crunchy"
side. But then again, it would not be as quick either. Sweet potatoes and
ham are one of my favorite combinations. I have never seen pineapple jam,
but I have never looked for it either.

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<RJ> wrote:
> I was skimming a Better Homes & Gardens Cookbook ca 1962
> when I found a recipe suitable for "Mockery & Derision"
>
> "15 Minute Banquet"
>
> Cut Can of SPAM into 12 slices
> stud with cloves, brown in fry pan.
>
> Add 1 X 11oz can of yams, drained
> sprinkle with salt !
>
> Spoon 1/3 c pineapple jam over meat & yams
>
> Heat uncovered, basting often.
>
> Serves 4
>
> People really ate like that 40 years ago ?
> SPAM and a small can of yams to feed four ?
>
> Amazing !


Remember that it was the era of the I Hate to Cook Book. Although it may
seem odd to find such an abomination under the Better Homes and Gardens
banner, these things were typical examples of convenience cooking aimed
at the target demographic. Anyone could get the ingredients, anyone
could prepare it as described, and it was ready minutes. It was easy,
nonfussy and edible.
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> I was skimming a Better Homes & Gardens Cookbook �ca 1962
> when I found a recipe suitable for "Mockery & Derision"
>
> � � � � � � � � "15 Minute Banquet"
>
> Cut � � � Can of SPAM into 12 slices
> � � � � � � stud with cloves, brown in fry pan.
>
> Add � � � 1 X �11oz can of yams, drained
> � � � � � � � sprinkle with salt !
>
> Spoon � �1/3 c �pineapple jam over meat & yams
>
> Heat � � � �uncovered, basting often.
>
> Serves � � 4
>
> People really ate like that 40 years ago ?
> SPAM and a small can of yams to feed four ?
>
> Amazing !


I still eat like that... I'm amazing!
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On Dec 31, 6:14*pm, Pennyaline > wrote:
> <RJ> wrote:
> > I was skimming a Better Homes & Gardens Cookbook *ca 1962
> > when I found a recipe suitable for "Mockery & Derision"

>
> > * * * * * * * * "15 Minute Banquet"

>
> > Cut * * * Can of SPAM into 12 slices
> > * * * * * * stud with cloves, brown in fry pan.

>
> > Add * * * 1 X *11oz can of yams, drained
> > * * * * * * * sprinkle with salt !

>
> > Spoon * *1/3 c *pineapple jam over meat & yams

>
> > Heat * * * *uncovered, basting often.

>
> > Serves * * 4

>
> > People really ate like that 40 years ago ?
> > SPAM and a small can of yams to feed four ?

>
> > Amazing !

>
> Remember that it was the era of the I Hate to Cook Book. Although it may
> seem odd to find such an abomination under the Better Homes and Gardens
> banner, these things were typical examples of convenience cooking aimed
> at the target demographic. Anyone could get the ingredients, anyone
> could prepare it as described, and it was ready minutes. It was easy,
> nonfussy and edible.



When my parents were first married, my mom had to rely on that sort of
thing because they both worked and she just didn't have the time.


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"<RJ>" > wrote in message
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>
> I was skimming a Better Homes & Gardens Cookbook ca 1962
> when I found a recipe suitable for "Mockery & Derision"
>
> "15 Minute Banquet"
>
> Cut Can of SPAM into 12 slices
> stud with cloves, brown in fry pan.
>
> Add 1 X 11oz can of yams, drained
> sprinkle with salt !
>
> Spoon 1/3 c pineapple jam over meat & yams
>
> Heat uncovered, basting often.
>
> Serves 4
>
> People really ate like that 40 years ago ?
> SPAM and a small can of yams to feed four ?
>
> Amazing !
>
> <rj>


Yes, people ate much smaller portions then. . . and you only ate three times
a day.
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"<RJ>" > wrote:

> I was skimming a Better Homes & Gardens Cookbook ca 1962
> when I found a recipe suitable for "Mockery & Derision"
>
> "15 Minute Banquet"
>
> Cut Can of SPAM into 12 slices
> stud with cloves, brown in fry pan.
>
> Add 1 X 11oz can of yams, drained
> sprinkle with salt !
>
> Spoon 1/3 c pineapple jam over meat & yams
>
> Heat uncovered, basting often.
>
> Serves 4
>
> People really ate like that 40 years ago ?
> SPAM and a small can of yams to feed four ?
>
> Amazing !
>
> <rj>


I think they were thinner than folks are today, too. Amazing!
Forty-five years ago, the "regular" order at McDonald's was a hamburger,
small fries, and a Coke. Today, that's the kids' meal portion.
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On Dec 31, 3:13�pm, RJ wrote:

> I was skimming a Better Homes & Gardens Cookbook �
> ca 1962 when I found a recipe suitable for "Mockery &
> Derision"


> � � � � � � � � "15 Minute Banquet"


> � � � Can of SPAM into 12 slices
> � � � � � � stud with cloves, brown in fry pan.


> People really ate like that 40 years ago ?


Shades of Jimmy Tango!

Some people still eat like that today.

Happy New Year!
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On Dec 31, 7:50 pm, Melba's Jammin' >
wrote:
> In article >,
>
>
>
> "<RJ>" > wrote:
> > I was skimming a Better Homes & Gardens Cookbook ca 1962
> > when I found a recipe suitable for "Mockery & Derision"

>
> > "15 Minute Banquet"

>
> > Cut Can of SPAM into 12 slices
> > stud with cloves, brown in fry pan.

>
> > Add 1 X 11oz can of yams, drained
> > sprinkle with salt !

>
> > Spoon 1/3 c pineapple jam over meat & yams

>
> > Heat uncovered, basting often.

>
> > Serves 4

>
> > People really ate like that 40 years ago ?
> > SPAM and a small can of yams to feed four ?

>
> > Amazing !

>
> > <rj>

>
> I think they were thinner than folks are today, too. Amazing!
> Forty-five years ago, the "regular" order at McDonald's was a hamburger,
> small fries, and a Coke. Today, that's the kids' meal portion.


The little kids' portion, but it comes with a dessert too, right? The
"big kids'" meals are larger than that.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...33/ai_55221602

> --
> -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ


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> In article >,
> "<RJ>" > wrote:
>
>> I was skimming a Better Homes & Gardens Cookbook ca 1962
>> when I found a recipe suitable for "Mockery & Derision"
>>
>> "15 Minute Banquet"
>>
>> Cut Can of SPAM into 12 slices
>> stud with cloves, brown in fry pan.
>>
>> Add 1 X 11oz can of yams, drained
>> sprinkle with salt !
>>
>> Spoon 1/3 c pineapple jam over meat & yams
>>
>> Heat uncovered, basting often.
>>
>> Serves 4
>>
>> People really ate like that 40 years ago ?
>> SPAM and a small can of yams to feed four ?
>>
>> Amazing !
>>
>> <rj>

>
> I think they were thinner than folks are today, too. Amazing!
> Forty-five years ago, the "regular" order at McDonald's was a hamburger,
> small fries, and a Coke. Today, that's the kids' meal portion.


And that came to about a dollar back then, in the days of their 15-cent
burgers. At least that's what they cost when the first one opened in my
home town.


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<snip spam, pineapple and yams>

> People really ate like that 40 years ago ?
> SPAM and a small can of yams to feed four ?
>
> Amazing !


Don't give out your street address or a Hawaiian lynch mob will be
showing up to see you real soon.

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On Dec 31, 8:50�pm, Melba's Jammin' >
wrote:
> In article >,
>
>
>
>
>
> �"<RJ>" > wrote:
> > I was skimming a Better Homes & Gardens Cookbook �ca 1962
> > when I found a recipe suitable for "Mockery & Derision"

>
> > � � � � � � � � "15 Minute Banquet"

>
> > Cut � � � Can of SPAM into 12 slices
> > � � � � � � stud with cloves, brown in fry pan.

>
> > Add � � � 1 X �11oz can of yams, drained
> > � � � � � � � sprinkle with salt !

>
> > Spoon � �1/3 c �pineapple jam over meat & yams

>
> > Heat � � � �uncovered, basting often.

>
> > Serves � � 4

>
> > People really ate like that 40 years ago ?
> > SPAM and a small can of yams to feed four ?

>
> > Amazing !

>
> > <rj>

>
> I think they were thinner than folks are today, too. �Amazing!
> Forty-five years ago, the "regular" order at McDonald's was a hamburger,
> small fries, and a Coke. �Today, that's the kids' meal portion.


Yeah, kids under five... today ten yer olds order the double cheese
burger, supersize fries, and a large shake... and that's just a snack
between breakfast and lunch.
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"<RJ>" > wrote in message
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>
> I was skimming a Better Homes & Gardens Cookbook ca 1962
> when I found a recipe suitable for "Mockery & Derision"
>
> "15 Minute Banquet"
>
> Cut Can of SPAM into 12 slices
> stud with cloves, brown in fry pan.
>
> Add 1 X 11oz can of yams, drained
> sprinkle with salt !
>
> Spoon 1/3 c pineapple jam over meat & yams
>
> Heat uncovered, basting often.
>
> Serves 4
>
> People really ate like that 40 years ago ?
> SPAM and a small can of yams to feed four ?
>
> Amazing !


Reminds me of a recipe I got from my Betty Crocker cookbook for kids. Spam
Loaf Hawaiian. It was supposed to make dad's day. It was suggested as a
Father's Day meal. You took a can of Spam and another can of Pineapple
rings. You put the Spam in a baking dish, cut as many slits in it as there
were rings of pineapple, inserted the pineapple and baked it. I believe it
was to be accompanied with canned green beans and some white rice.

I can still picture the look on his face as I proudly served that up!
Hehehe.


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On Mon 31 Dec 2007 08:54:47p, Julie Bove told us...

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> "<RJ>" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> I was skimming a Better Homes & Gardens Cookbook ca 1962
>> when I found a recipe suitable for "Mockery & Derision"
>>
>> "15 Minute Banquet"
>>
>> Cut Can of SPAM into 12 slices
>> stud with cloves, brown in fry pan.
>>
>> Add 1 X 11oz can of yams, drained
>> sprinkle with salt !
>>
>> Spoon 1/3 c pineapple jam over meat & yams
>>
>> Heat uncovered, basting often.
>>
>> Serves 4
>>
>> People really ate like that 40 years ago ?
>> SPAM and a small can of yams to feed four ?
>>
>> Amazing !

>
> Reminds me of a recipe I got from my Betty Crocker cookbook for kids.
> Spam Loaf Hawaiian. It was supposed to make dad's day. It was
> suggested as a Father's Day meal. You took a can of Spam and another
> can of Pineapple rings. You put the Spam in a baking dish, cut as many
> slits in it as there were rings of pineapple, inserted the pineapple and
> baked it. I believe it was to be accompanied with canned green beans
> and some white rice.
>
> I can still picture the look on his face as I proudly served that up!
> Hehehe.
>
>
>


Utter shock and horror?

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> "<RJ>" > wrote:
>> People really ate like that 40 years ago ?
>> SPAM and a small can of yams to feed four ?
>>
>> Amazing !
>>
>> <rj>

>
> I think they were thinner than folks are today, too. Amazing!
> Forty-five years ago, the "regular" order at McDonald's was a hamburger,
> small fries, and a Coke. Today, that's the kids' meal portion.
> --
> -Barb, Mother Superior,


I'm convinced it's partly because such food is already chewed up and dumbed
down, leaving eaters less satisfied. The other factor, IMO, is people got
richer and could afford to eat what was portioned out carefully at one time.
I see the same effects to a lesser degree here in Italy.

I'd really like to see more parents spend less time carting kids to
afterschool dates and more starting a braise of cheap meat with a bunch of
veg, spending less on hunks of tender meat and more on varied base
ingredients. We need a generation reared to know and care about what they
consume. We have all these 21st century appliances for making predigested
crap with bottled sauces to make them taste like something. I am definitely
getting old.

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> I'd really like to see more parents spend less time carting kids to
> afterschool dates and more starting a braise of cheap meat with a
> bunch of veg, spending less on hunks of tender meat and more on
> varied base ingredients. We need a generation reared to know and
> care about what they consume. We have all these 21st century
> appliances for making predigested crap with bottled sauces to make
> them taste like something. I am definitely getting old.


I must be too because I agree with every word!


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> On Mon 31 Dec 2007 08:54:47p, Julie Bove told us...
>
>>
>> "<RJ>" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> I was skimming a Better Homes & Gardens Cookbook ca 1962
>>> when I found a recipe suitable for "Mockery & Derision"
>>>
>>> "15 Minute Banquet"
>>>
>>> Cut Can of SPAM into 12 slices
>>> stud with cloves, brown in fry pan.
>>>
>>> Add 1 X 11oz can of yams, drained
>>> sprinkle with salt !
>>>
>>> Spoon 1/3 c pineapple jam over meat & yams
>>>
>>> Heat uncovered, basting often.
>>>
>>> Serves 4
>>>
>>> People really ate like that 40 years ago ?
>>> SPAM and a small can of yams to feed four ?
>>>
>>> Amazing !

>>
>> Reminds me of a recipe I got from my Betty Crocker cookbook for kids.
>> Spam Loaf Hawaiian. It was supposed to make dad's day. It was
>> suggested as a Father's Day meal. You took a can of Spam and another
>> can of Pineapple rings. You put the Spam in a baking dish, cut as
>> many slits in it as there were rings of pineapple, inserted the
>> pineapple and baked it. I believe it was to be accompanied with
>> canned green beans and some white rice.
>>
>> I can still picture the look on his face as I proudly served that up!
>> Hehehe.
>>
>>
>>

>
> Utter shock and horror?


Utter pride that his wee girl had made something all by herself just for
him


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"<RJ>" > wrote in message
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>
> I was skimming a Better Homes & Gardens Cookbook ca 1962
> when I found a recipe suitable for "Mockery & Derision"
>
> "15 Minute Banquet"
>
> Cut Can of SPAM into 12 slices
> stud with cloves, brown in fry pan.
>
> Add 1 X 11oz can of yams, drained
> sprinkle with salt !
>
> Spoon 1/3 c pineapple jam over meat & yams
>
> Heat uncovered, basting often.
>
> Serves 4
>
> People really ate like that 40 years ago ?
> SPAM and a small can of yams to feed four ?
>
> Amazing !


We ate that way all the time in the 60s. When I was in first grade, our
cafeteria served all kinds of quickie dishes that were tossed together and
baked. Spam was on the menu often and we loved it. We'd get a slice of
browned Spam, a piece of bread, a pat of butter, a half-pint of milk and
half an apple. I never recall ever going hungry. As I recall breakfast was
equally quick and light. We only had things like pancakes on weekends.
Weekdays we just had a small bowl of corn flakes with no sugar.

I have an old BC cookbook from he early 60s called
"Cooking for Two" and it is full of recipes that would turn the nose of
pretty much anyone today. Two pork chops (not each, two - one for each),
some applesauce and boiled broccoli is one dinner for two I remember from
that book. Small portions, simple food, good and fresh ingredients.
Nothing much pre-processed at all.
And the portions were quite small compared to today. Now we have fast food
corporations setting up shop in school cafeterias serving double bacon
cheese burgers with supersized fries and a 64 ounce Coke and obesity and
diabetes is an epidemic they just can't explain.

People eat a lot more food than they used to and they eat a lot more
pre-processed foods than ever before.

Paul


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"Giusi" > wrote in message
> I'm convinced it's partly because such food is already chewed up and
> dumbed down, leaving eaters less satisfied. The other factor, IMO, is
> people got richer and could afford to eat what was portioned out carefully
> at one time. I see the same effects to a lesser degree here in Italy.


Meat used to be an extravagance, veggies were cheap as they were home grown.
Prepared foods were almost non-existant but mom stayed home and did the
work.


>
> I'd really like to see more parents spend less time carting kids to
> afterschool dates and more starting a braise of cheap meat with a bunch of
> veg, spending less on hunks of tender meat and more on varied base
> ingredients. We need a generation reared to know and care about what they
> consume. We have all these 21st century appliances for making predigested
> crap with bottled sauces to make them taste like something. I am
> definitely getting old.


I could go on for a long time about this. Between working mothers and
children's activities, food is just something crammed in between with little
regard to dietary needs. Many people won't even make a cup of coffee in the
morning and opt to spend $2 at a drive up window and complain they are broke
all the time.
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On Tue 01 Jan 2008 04:24:33a, Ophelia told us...

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> On Mon 31 Dec 2007 08:54:47p, Julie Bove told us...
>>
>>>
>>> "<RJ>" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> I was skimming a Better Homes & Gardens Cookbook ca 1962
>>>> when I found a recipe suitable for "Mockery & Derision"
>>>>
>>>> "15 Minute Banquet"
>>>>
>>>> Cut Can of SPAM into 12 slices
>>>> stud with cloves, brown in fry pan.
>>>>
>>>> Add 1 X 11oz can of yams, drained
>>>> sprinkle with salt !
>>>>
>>>> Spoon 1/3 c pineapple jam over meat & yams
>>>>
>>>> Heat uncovered, basting often.
>>>>
>>>> Serves 4
>>>>
>>>> People really ate like that 40 years ago ?
>>>> SPAM and a small can of yams to feed four ?
>>>>
>>>> Amazing !
>>>
>>> Reminds me of a recipe I got from my Betty Crocker cookbook for kids.
>>> Spam Loaf Hawaiian. It was supposed to make dad's day. It was
>>> suggested as a Father's Day meal. You took a can of Spam and another
>>> can of Pineapple rings. You put the Spam in a baking dish, cut as
>>> many slits in it as there were rings of pineapple, inserted the
>>> pineapple and baked it. I believe it was to be accompanied with
>>> canned green beans and some white rice.
>>>
>>> I can still picture the look on his face as I proudly served that up!
>>> Hehehe.
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>> Utter shock and horror?

>
> Utter pride that his wee girl had made something all by herself just for
> him
>
>


Oh, I suppose you're right. But shock and horror would have been my
reaction. You can tell I've never had children. :-)

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> > wrote:
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>>
>>
>>
>> "<RJ>" > wrote:
>> > I was skimming a Better Homes & Gardens Cookbook ca
>> > 1962 when I found a recipe suitable for "Mockery &
>> > Derision"

>>
>> > "15 Minute Banquet"

>>
>> > Cut Can of SPAM into 12 slices
>> > stud with cloves, brown in fry pan.

>>
>> > Add 1 X 11oz can of yams, drained
>> > sprinkle with salt !

>>
>> > Spoon 1/3 c pineapple jam over meat & yams

>>
>> > Heat uncovered, basting often.

>>
>> > Serves 4

>>
>> > People really ate like that 40 years ago ?
>> > SPAM and a small can of yams to feed four ?

>>
>> > Amazing !

>>
>> > <rj>

>>
>> I think they were thinner than folks are today, too.
>> Amazing! Forty-five years ago, the "regular" order at
>> McDonald's was a hamburger, small fries, and a Coke.
>> Today, that's the kids' meal portion.

>
> The little kids' portion, but it comes with a dessert too,
> right?


no, it doesn't come with a dessert. i think they came with
some abominable cookies for a couple years, but they currently
come with a burger, small fries or apple dippers, a drink
(water, milk or pop) & a cheap toy.
i forget what is in the Big Kids Meal (i avoid McD's if at
all possible), but i was really disgusted by a mother of
preschool friend of Boo's who insisted a regular kid meal was
too little food for her 3 year old & he *had* to get a big kid
meal (this at a birthday party, so the birthday boy's parents
had to pay extra for the brat). he was/is overweight, along
with the rest of the family.
my 7.5 year old weighs less than 50 pounds. that now 4 year
old weighs at least 70.
lee
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> Reminds me of a recipe I got from my Betty Crocker cookbook
> for kids. Spam Loaf Hawaiian. It was supposed to make
> dad's day. It was suggested as a Father's Day meal. You
> took a can of Spam and another can of Pineapple rings. You
> put the Spam in a baking dish, cut as many slits in it as
> there were rings of pineapple, inserted the pineapple and
> baked it. I believe it was to be accompanied with canned
> green beans and some white rice.


i have the 1957 Betty Crocker's Cookbook for Boys & Girls, and
there are no recipes with Spam in it at all, nor in my 1955
BH&G Junior cookbook.
what year was your cookbook?

> I can still picture the look on his face as I proudly
> served that up! Hehehe.


horror?
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<RJ> wrote:
> I was skimming a Better Homes & Gardens Cookbook ca 1962
> when I found a recipe suitable for "Mockery & Derision"
>
> "15 Minute Banquet"
>
> Cut Can of SPAM into 12 slices
> stud with cloves, brown in fry pan.
>
> Add 1 X 11oz can of yams, drained
> sprinkle with salt !
>
> Spoon 1/3 c pineapple jam over meat & yams
>
> Heat uncovered, basting often.
>
> Serves 4
>
> People really ate like that 40 years ago ?
> SPAM and a small can of yams to feed four ?
>
> Amazing !
>
> <rj>


In the small town where I lived (5,000 people), there was no McDonald's.
People cooked, they did not go out to eat. Maybe this was their "fast
food" option.

BTW, if you cooked this, I would try it.

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On Jan 1, 11:39 am, "l, not -l" > wrote:
> On 31-Dec-2007, Sheldon > wrote:
>
> > > I think they were thinner than folks are today, too. �Amazing!
> > > Forty-five years ago, the "regular" order at McDonald's was a hamburger,
> > > small fries, and a Coke. �Today, that's the kids' meal portion..

>
> > Yeah, kids under five... today ten yer olds order the double cheese
> > burger, supersize fries, and a large shake... and that's just a snack
> > between breakfast and lunch.

>
> I was thinking about this a day or so ago, prompted by a Hardee's commercial
> for their new Philly CheeseSteak Thickburger. When Hardee's (then known as
> Burger Chef) first opened in our community (St. Louis suburb), around 1963,
> a typical meal was a 1/6th lb. burger, cheese optional, what we now know as
> a kids-sized order of fries and a drink, again what we now think of as the
> small size.
>
> Today, Hardees is pushing the Philly or 1/2 lb. Thickburger, medium to large
> fries and large drink as the meal to order - at a minimum three times the
> calories of the 1960's order. Even if very hungry and ordered an extra
> burger in the '60s, you are still talking less than half the calories of
> today's typical Hardee's order. To Hardee's credit, I will say, on the rare
> occasion I order a meal there, the staff never asks if I want to up-size it;
> they, ring up and deliver what I ask for without sales pitch.


Their burgers are pretty lean as they cook them to death, and two
Thickburgers, made low carb, with water to drink is almost all
protein.
>
> Similar story with Steak 'n Shake; as a teen, a typical order was a
> Steakburger, fries and drink (both the equivalent of today's small and
> medium respectively). Today, you have to look hard at the menu to find the
> single-Steakburger - the Double Steakburger is the norm.


The singles are just not enough meat. With a coupon, you can get a
double, a small chili and a side salad (water to drink) for
$4.19+tax. If you tell them to keep their shitty saltines, and
especially if you also don't eat some/all of the bun, not too bad
price wise, or nutrition wise.
>

Those are both pretty decent places for fast food. Another good one
is Lion's Choice, which is a bit pricey, and they don't send out the
cool coupons, but a sandwich with double extra beef is nice, and the
au jus is pretty decent for fast food.

Back to the Mizzou game.

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Brian Christiansen wrote:
> "<RJ>" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I was skimming a Better Homes & Gardens Cookbook ca 1962
>> when I found a recipe suitable for "Mockery & Derision"
>>
>> "15 Minute Banquet"
>>
>> Cut Can of SPAM into 12 slices
>> stud with cloves, brown in fry pan.
>>
>> Add 1 X 11oz can of yams, drained
>> sprinkle with salt !
>>
>> Spoon 1/3 c pineapple jam over meat & yams
>>
>> Heat uncovered, basting often.

>
> That might not be to bad if it were "real" ham instead of SPAM, "real" sweet
> potatoes (steamed, roasted, whatever) instead of canned. Perhaps you could
> heat them that way, but only if you like them on the "extremely crunchy"
> side. But then again, it would not be as quick either. Sweet potatoes and
> ham are one of my favorite combinations. I have never seen pineapple jam,
> but I have never looked for it either.
>
> Brian Christiansen
>


There is a regional canner here known for good pickles and they recently
started making jam. They only make a few versions with one being
pineapple and they taste great because the first ingredient isn't HFCS.

It is the first time I had pineapple jam and it is a nice change from
other fruit flavors.


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Sheldon wrote:
> "<RJ>" wrote:
>> I was skimming a Better Homes & Gardens Cookbook �ca 1962
>> when I found a recipe suitable for "Mockery & Derision"
>>
>> � � � � � � � � "15 Minute Banquet"
>>
>> Cut � � � Can of SPAM into 12 slices
>> � � � � � � stud with cloves, brown in fry pan.
>>
>> Add � � � 1 X �11oz can of yams, drained
>> � � � � � � � sprinkle with salt !
>>
>> Spoon � �1/3 c �pineapple jam over meat & yams
>>
>> Heat � � � �uncovered, basting often.
>>
>> Serves � � 4
>>
>> People really ate like that 40 years ago ?
>> SPAM and a small can of yams to feed four ?
>>
>> Amazing !

>
> I still eat like that... I'm amazing!


An amazing loser asshole perhaps.
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On Jan 1, 6:30 pm, Dan > wrote:
> Sheldon wrote:
> > "<RJ>" wrote:
> >> I was skimming a Better Homes & Gardens Cookbook �ca 1962
> >> when I found a recipe suitable for "Mockery & Derision"

>
> >> � � � � � � � � "15 Minute Banquet"

>
> >> Cut � � � Can of SPAM into 12 slices
> >> � � � � � � stud with cloves, brown in fry pan.

>
> >> Add � � � 1 X �11oz can of yams, drained
> >> � � � � � � � sprinkle with salt !

>
> >> Spoon � �1/3 c �pineapple jam over meat & yams

>
> >> Heat � � � �uncovered, basting often.

>
> >> Serves � � 4

>
> >> People really ate like that 40 years ago ?
> >> SPAM and a small can of yams to feed four ?

>
> >> Amazing !

>
> > I still eat like that... I'm amazing!

>
> An amazing loser asshole perhaps.


He also drinks filthy cheap vodka, and insists that decent vodka is a
waste of money if you're going to use it in mixed drinks.

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> On Tue 01 Jan 2008 04:24:33a, Ophelia told us...
>
>> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>> On Mon 31 Dec 2007 08:54:47p, Julie Bove told us...
>>>
>>>> "<RJ>" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> I was skimming a Better Homes & Gardens Cookbook ca 1962
>>>>> when I found a recipe suitable for "Mockery & Derision"
>>>>>
>>>>> "15 Minute Banquet"
>>>>>
>>>>> Cut Can of SPAM into 12 slices
>>>>> stud with cloves, brown in fry pan.
>>>>>
>>>>> Add 1 X 11oz can of yams, drained
>>>>> sprinkle with salt !
>>>>>
>>>>> Spoon 1/3 c pineapple jam over meat & yams
>>>>>
>>>>> Heat uncovered, basting often.
>>>>>
>>>>> Serves 4
>>>>>
>>>>> People really ate like that 40 years ago ?
>>>>> SPAM and a small can of yams to feed four ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Amazing !
>>>> Reminds me of a recipe I got from my Betty Crocker cookbook for kids.
>>>> Spam Loaf Hawaiian. It was supposed to make dad's day. It was
>>>> suggested as a Father's Day meal. You took a can of Spam and another
>>>> can of Pineapple rings. You put the Spam in a baking dish, cut as
>>>> many slits in it as there were rings of pineapple, inserted the
>>>> pineapple and baked it. I believe it was to be accompanied with
>>>> canned green beans and some white rice.
>>>>
>>>> I can still picture the look on his face as I proudly served that up!
>>>> Hehehe.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Utter shock and horror?

>> Utter pride that his wee girl had made something all by herself just for
>> him
>>
>>

>
> Oh, I suppose you're right. But shock and horror would have been my
> reaction. You can tell I've never had children. :-)
>

I can also tell that many of you aren't very old. If it hadn't been for
SPAM, a non-rationed meat, lots of folks would have been vegetarians
during WWII. Where do you think the Monty Python skit about "SPAM" came
from. The Brits ate so much of it they went a little wacky, so did a lot
of Americans in cities who couldn't get out to the country and scrounge
some decent meat. Hell, I still like SPAM on occasion.

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"Dan" > wrote in message
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> Sheldon wrote:
>> "<RJ>" wrote:
>>> I was skimming a Better Homes & Gardens Cookbook ?ca 1962
>>> when I found a recipe suitable for "Mockery & Derision"
>>>
>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? "15 Minute Banquet"
>>>
>>> Cut ? ? ? Can of SPAM into 12 slices
>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? stud with cloves, brown in fry pan.
>>>
>>> Add ? ? ? 1 X ?11oz can of yams, drained
>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? sprinkle with salt !
>>>
>>> Spoon ? ?1/3 c ?pineapple jam over meat & yams
>>>
>>> Heat ? ? ? ?uncovered, basting often.
>>>
>>> Serves ? ? 4
>>>
>>> People really ate like that 40 years ago ?
>>> SPAM and a small can of yams to feed four ?
>>>
>>> Amazing !

>>
>> I still eat like that... I'm amazing!

>
> An amazing loser asshole perhaps.


Shouldn't that be looser?


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On Tue 01 Jan 2008 05:58:49p, George Shirley told us...

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> On Tue 01 Jan 2008 04:24:33a, Ophelia told us...
>>
>>> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>>> On Mon 31 Dec 2007 08:54:47p, Julie Bove told us...
>>>>
>>>>> "<RJ>" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> I was skimming a Better Homes & Gardens Cookbook ca 1962
>>>>>> when I found a recipe suitable for "Mockery & Derision"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "15 Minute Banquet"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cut Can of SPAM into 12 slices
>>>>>> stud with cloves, brown in fry pan.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Add 1 X 11oz can of yams, drained
>>>>>> sprinkle with salt !
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Spoon 1/3 c pineapple jam over meat & yams
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Heat uncovered, basting often.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Serves 4
>>>>>>
>>>>>> People really ate like that 40 years ago ?
>>>>>> SPAM and a small can of yams to feed four ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Amazing !
>>>>> Reminds me of a recipe I got from my Betty Crocker cookbook for kids.
>>>>> Spam Loaf Hawaiian. It was supposed to make dad's day. It was
>>>>> suggested as a Father's Day meal. You took a can of Spam and another
>>>>> can of Pineapple rings. You put the Spam in a baking dish, cut as
>>>>> many slits in it as there were rings of pineapple, inserted the
>>>>> pineapple and baked it. I believe it was to be accompanied with
>>>>> canned green beans and some white rice.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can still picture the look on his face as I proudly served that up!
>>>>> Hehehe.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Utter shock and horror?
>>> Utter pride that his wee girl had made something all by herself just

for
>>> him
>>>
>>>

>>
>> Oh, I suppose you're right. But shock and horror would have been my
>> reaction. You can tell I've never had children. :-)
>>

> I can also tell that many of you aren't very old. If it hadn't been for
> SPAM, a non-rationed meat, lots of folks would have been vegetarians
> during WWII. Where do you think the Monty Python skit about "SPAM" came
> from. The Brits ate so much of it they went a little wacky, so did a lot
> of Americans in cities who couldn't get out to the country and scrounge
> some decent meat. Hell, I still like SPAM on occasion.
>
> George
>


I was born in January, 1945, so was not really negatively affected by WWII.
Both my parents' families at that time were farming people, so food wasn't
really an issue for them.

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> On Tue 01 Jan 2008 05:58:49p, George Shirley told us...


>> I can also tell that many of you aren't very old. If it hadn't been for
>> SPAM, a non-rationed meat, lots of folks would have been vegetarians
>> during WWII. Where do you think the Monty Python skit about "SPAM" came
>> from. The Brits ate so much of it they went a little wacky, so did a lot
>> of Americans in cities who couldn't get out to the country and scrounge
>> some decent meat. Hell, I still like SPAM on occasion.
>>
>> George
>>

>
> I was born in January, 1945, so was not really negatively affected by WWII.


I was born in 1947, but the memories, habits and effects of WWII didn't
just disappear in the summer of 1945. I'm sure at least part of the
reason we ate SPAM when I was a boy was the influence of WWII (and perhaps
also the Depression)...

> Both my parents' families at that time were farming people, so food
> wasn't really an issue for them.


....so I'd guess that *this* - your farmer lineage - was a bigger factor in
your nonSPAMminess back then in the immediate shadow of WWII.


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>I was born in 1947, but the memories, habits and effects of WWII didn't
>just disappear in the summer of 1945. I'm sure at least part of the
>reason we ate SPAM when I was a boy was the influence of WWII (and perhaps
>also the Depression)...


I was born in 1955, but being a military brat and having lived
in Hawaii even, Spam was very familiar to me as a child. It still
tastes satisfying to me, which I'm sure is simply because of my
childhood association of Spam with protein and calories.

Off topic, I made gnocchi gorgonzola for my dinner guests the
other night. I used a real, aged, mountain cow's-milk gorgonzola
I picked up at the Cheese Board. It was excellent, I thought, but
a couple of guests found it just too damn strong, I think.

At other times, I've made gnocchi gorgonzola with Stilton.
I think I'll stick with that next time -- plenty of flavor
but less over-the-top.

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On Tue 01 Jan 2008 10:37:21p, Blinky the Shark told us...

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>> On Tue 01 Jan 2008 05:58:49p, George Shirley told us...

>
>>> I can also tell that many of you aren't very old. If it hadn't been
>>> for SPAM, a non-rationed meat, lots of folks would have been
>>> vegetarians during WWII. Where do you think the Monty Python skit
>>> about "SPAM" came from. The Brits ate so much of it they went a little
>>> wacky, so did a lot of Americans in cities who couldn't get out to the
>>> country and scrounge some decent meat. Hell, I still like SPAM on
>>> occasion.
>>>
>>> George
>>>

>>
>> I was born in January, 1945, so was not really negatively affected by
>> WWII.

>
> I was born in 1947, but the memories, habits and effects of WWII didn't
> just disappear in the summer of 1945. I'm sure at least part of the
> reason we ate SPAM when I was a boy was the influence of WWII (and
> perhaps also the Depression)...


I'm sure you're right about that. I know from family stories that they
were also relatively unaffected by the Depression. I know that my mother's
family lost a few thousand in one of the banks, but most of both families'
money was tied up in property that was paid for and wasn't lost.

>> Both my parents' families at that time were farming people, so food
>> wasn't really an issue for them.

>
> ...so I'd guess that *this* - your farmer lineage - was a bigger factor
> in your nonSPAMminess back then in the immediate shadow of WWII.


I'm sure that's also true. I don't remember seeing "cans" of anything in
ours or any relative's house except for that which was home canned. Meats
were fresh from the farm.

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George Shirley wrote:
> I can also tell that many of you aren't very old. If it hadn't been
> for SPAM, a non-rationed meat, lots of folks would have been
> vegetarians during WWII. Where do you think the Monty Python skit
> about "SPAM" came from. The Brits ate so much of it they went a
> little wacky, so did a lot of Americans in cities who couldn't get
> out to the country and scrounge some decent meat.


Quite right!


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> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>> On Tue 01 Jan 2008 05:58:49p, George Shirley told us...

>
>>> I can also tell that many of you aren't very old. If it hadn't been for
>>> SPAM, a non-rationed meat, lots of folks would have been vegetarians
>>> during WWII. Where do you think the Monty Python skit about "SPAM" came
>>> from. The Brits ate so much of it they went a little wacky, so did a lot
>>> of Americans in cities who couldn't get out to the country and scrounge
>>> some decent meat. Hell, I still like SPAM on occasion.


>> I was born in January, 1945, so was not really negatively affected by
>> WWII.

>
> I was born in 1947, but the memories, habits and effects of WWII didn't
> just disappear in the summer of 1945. I'm sure at least part of the
> reason we ate SPAM when I was a boy was the influence of WWII (and perhaps
> also the Depression)...


And I think the influence of WWII was why there was no SPAM
in my house, my father had enough of that!

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> from Blinky the Shark > contains these words:
>
>> Wayne Boatwright wrote:

>
>> > On Tue 01 Jan 2008 05:58:49p, George Shirley told us...

>
>> >> I can also tell that many of you aren't very old. If it hadn't been
>> >> for SPAM, a non-rationed meat, lots of folks would have been
>> >> vegetarians during WWII. Where do you think the Monty Python skit
>> >> about "SPAM" came from. The Brits ate so much of it they went a
>> >> little wacky, so did a lot of Americans in cities who couldn't get
>> >> out to the country and scrounge some decent meat. Hell, I still like
>> >> SPAM on occasion.
>> >>
>> >> George
>> >>
>> >
>> > I was born in January, 1945, so was not really negatively affected by
>> > WWII.

>
>> I was born in 1947, but the memories, habits and effects of WWII didn't
>> just disappear in the summer of 1945. I'm sure at least part of the
>> reason we ate SPAM when I was a boy was the influence of WWII (and
>> perhaps also the Depression)...

>
> I was born in 46 . In Britain, wartime food rationing and shortages
> lasted for years after the war. Meat was the last food to be
> de-rationed, in 1954.
>
> Janet.
>


Yes, I know the situation was *very* different in Britain. I have friends
and distant family there, and have heard many stories about the lengthy
period of rationing after the war.

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> I was skimming a Better Homes & Gardens Cookbook *ca 1962
> when I found a recipe suitable for "Mockery & Derision"
>
> * * * * * * * * "15 Minute Banquet"
>
> Cut * * * Can of SPAM into 12 slices
> * * * * * * stud with cloves, brown in fry pan.
>
> Add * * * 1 X *11oz can of yams, drained
> * * * * * * * sprinkle with salt !
>
> Spoon * *1/3 c *pineapple jam over meat & yams
>
> Heat * * * *uncovered, basting often.
>
> Serves * * 4
>
> People really ate like that 40 years ago ?
> SPAM and a small can of yams to feed four ?
>
> Amazing !
>
> <rj>


Everyone in the US would be better off if portions were this size
instead of gigantic, as seems to be the current fashion (unless you're
talkin' upscale restaurant).

In our family, there were two parents and 4 kids. My mom would fix a
total of 6 pork chops for a dinner, along with a starch, a vegetable,
and a salad, all of which were equally a serving for one person (a
pear half; 4 oz. of vegetables, etc.). Once or twice a week, we'd
have dessert - pie, cookies, or whatever. We certainly were far from
hungry.

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> On Tue 01 Jan 2008 10:37:21p, Blinky the Shark told us...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Wayne Boatwright wrote:

>
> >> On Tue 01 Jan 2008 05:58:49p, George Shirley told us...

>
> >>> I can also tell that many of you aren't very old. If it hadn't been
> >>> for SPAM, a non-rationed meat, lots of folks would have been
> >>> vegetarians during WWII. Where do you think the Monty Python skit
> >>> about "SPAM" came from. The Brits ate so much of it they went a little
> >>> wacky, so did a lot of Americans in cities who couldn't get out to the
> >>> country and scrounge some decent meat. Hell, I still like SPAM on
> >>> occasion.

>
> >>> George

>
> >> I was born in January, 1945, so was not really negatively affected by
> >> WWII. *

>
> > I was born in 1947, but the memories, habits and effects of WWII didn't
> > just disappear in the summer of 1945. *I'm sure at least part of the
> > reason we ate SPAM when I was a boy was the influence of WWII (and
> > perhaps also the Depression)...

>
> I'm sure you're right about that. *I know from family stories that they
> were also relatively unaffected by the Depression. *I know that my mother's
> family lost a few thousand in one of the banks, but most of both families'
> money was tied up in property that was paid for and wasn't lost.
>
> >> Both my parents' families at that time were farming people, so food
> >> wasn't really an issue for them.

>
> > ...so I'd guess that *this* - your farmer lineage - was a bigger factor
> > in your nonSPAMminess back then in the immediate shadow of WWII.

>
> I'm sure that's also true. *I don't remember seeing "cans" of anything in
> ours or any relative's house except for that which was home canned. *Meats
> were fresh from the farm.
>
> --
> * * * * * * * Wayne Boatwright
>


Me, too, Wayne. She only bought at the store, what we couldn't grow,
like oranges. (This was in the 40s.) My mom wouldn't ever buy
commercial lunch meat because it was - to her - "junk."

To this day, sometimes I just crave an Oscar Mayer baloney sandwich on
white bread. LOL.

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> Everyone in the US would be better off if portions were this size
> instead of gigantic, as seems to be the current fashion (unless you're
> talkin' upscale restaurant).


I was thinking about this over the weekend, and came to the
conclusion that the reason is cheap food. For the McDonalds,
Burger Kings, and Hardees of the world the cost of people,
equipment, leasing space, energy, shipping and packaging probably
far outweighs the cost of the actual food. So, to make their
stuff look like a bargain they increase the portion sizes.
Doubling the size of the burger is probably adding 10% to
the cost. To put it another way, they could reduce the size
to reasonable portions, but their prices would have to
remain pretty much the same and people would be feel "cheated."

Bill Ranck
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On Wed 02 Jan 2008 11:53:53a, Nancy2 told us...

> On Jan 2, 2:22*am, Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
>> On Tue 01 Jan 2008 10:37:21p, Blinky the Shark told us...
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> > Wayne Boatwright wrote:

>>
>> >> On Tue 01 Jan 2008 05:58:49p, George Shirley told us...

>>
>> >>> I can also tell that many of you aren't very old. If it hadn't been
>> >>> for SPAM, a non-rationed meat, lots of folks would have been
>> >>> vegetarians during WWII. Where do you think the Monty Python skit
>> >>> about "SPAM" came from. The Brits ate so much of it they went a
>> >>> little

>
>> >>> wacky, so did a lot of Americans in cities who couldn't get out to
>> >>> the

>
>> >>> country and scrounge some decent meat. Hell, I still like SPAM on
>> >>> occasion.

>>
>> >>> George

>>
>> >> I was born in January, 1945, so was not really negatively affected
>> >> by WWII. *

>>
>> > I was born in 1947, but the memories, habits and effects of WWII
>> > didn't just disappear in the summer of 1945. *I'm sure at least part
>> > of the reason we ate SPAM when I was a boy was the influence of WWII
>> > (and perhaps also the Depression)...

>>
>> I'm sure you're right about that. *I know from family stories that they
>> were also relatively unaffected by the Depression. *I know that my
>> mothe r's family lost a few thousand in one of the banks, but most of
>> both families'

>
>> money was tied up in property that was paid for and wasn't lost.
>>
>> >> Both my parents' families at that time were farming people, so food
>> >> wasn't really an issue for them.

>>
>> > ...so I'd guess that *this* - your farmer lineage - was a bigger
>> > factor in your nonSPAMminess back then in the immediate shadow of
>> > WWII.

>>
>> I'm sure that's also true. *I don't remember seeing "cans" of anything
>> i n ours or any relative's house except for that which was home canned.
>> *Mea ts were fresh from the farm.
>>
>> --
>> * * * * * * * Wayne Boatwright
>>

>
> Me, too, Wayne. She only bought at the store, what we couldn't grow,
> like oranges. (This was in the 40s.) My mom wouldn't ever buy
> commercial lunch meat because it was - to her - "junk."
>
> To this day, sometimes I just crave an Oscar Mayer baloney sandwich on
> white bread. LOL.
>
> N.
>


For some reason my mom would by liverwurst or pickle loaf or olive loaf,
but never bologney, and I never acquired a taste for it. I liked the
pickle and olive loaf as a kid. Once om a while I get a craving for that
on white bread with Miracle Whip. Liverwurst I have always loved.

--
Wayne Boatwright

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