Nathalie Chiva wrote:

> And rightly so too - hands are essential in cooking, and I certainly
> use my bare hands quite often while cooking.
> Funny what shocks one. I wouldn't have even noticed the use of bare
> hands in this case - seems so normal to me!
>
> Nathalie in Switzerland
>
I have no problem with hands either, although it is usually my own or
families hands and food. Strangers hands are always a bit more
suspicious. These folks were not professionals or probably trained in
handling food for the public. At a wedding, where they're trying to look
elegant and tasteful, I don't want to see her at the public table (not
behind the scenes) grabbing big handfuls of the cut up bread, squeezing
it to hold so much, then smooshing it down onto th pile.

Goomba38 wrote:

>>
> I have no problem with hands either, although it is usually my own or
> families hands and food. Strangers hands are always a bit more
> suspicious. These folks were not professionals or probably trained in
> handling food for the public. At a wedding, where they're trying to look
> elegant and tasteful, I don't want to see her at the public table (not
> behind the scenes) grabbing big handfuls of the cut up bread, squeezing
> it to hold so much, then smooshing it down onto th pile.

Heh. If she'd "smooshed it down" with her bare hands *behind the scenes*
you'd have been none the wiser... Would that have been OK? I thought
the fact that she was using her (presumably) unclean hands was what made
you gag, not just the fact that she did it in public. Like I said in
another post, one never knows what's going on in the kitchen at these
functions...
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Nathalie Chiva wrote:
>
>
>
> And rightly so too - hands are essential in cooking, and I certainly
> use my bare hands quite often while cooking.
> Funny what shocks one. I wouldn't have even noticed the use of bare
> hands in this case - seems so normal to me!

I almost always use my hands. Some people get grossed out. My brother got
squeamish when he saw her separating eggs by straining them through her
fingers. It was not fear of her hands being dirty but the thought of
touching raw eggs. I guess some would not appreciate my mixing ground meat
by hand and making patties and meatballs by hand.
I do wash my hands before and after.

Dave Smith wrote:
> Nathalie Chiva wrote:
>>
>>
>> And rightly so too - hands are essential in cooking, and I certainly
>> use my bare hands quite often while cooking.
>> Funny what shocks one. I wouldn't have even noticed the use of bare
>> hands in this case - seems so normal to me!
>
> I almost always use my hands. Some people get grossed out. My brother got
> squeamish when he saw her separating eggs by straining them through her
> fingers. It was not fear of her hands being dirty but the thought of
> touching raw eggs. I guess some would not appreciate my mixing ground meat
> by hand and making patties and meatballs by hand.
> I do wash my hands before and after.

Jeesuz.. everyone does in their own kitchen. This was NOT in the home
kitchen nor done discretely. It was unpleasant looking, grabbing
multiple handfuls of these large cubes and smashing them together so as
to be able to move them from storage dish to serving platter.
I'm hardly overly squeamish about food prep when it makes sense (such as
rolling those meatballs by hand, and whomever you're talking about with
the eggs washed her hands first, right??) but I don't assume that about
strangers in public. I see patients scratch their incontinent asses then
grab food for their mouth in the next instant... I assume NOTHING about
peoples hygiene these days.
This was more a presentation issue since it was being done at the
serving table itself and not behind the scenes. The image is a little
more important there I believe.

"Goomba38" > wrote in message
. ..
I see patients scratch their incontinent asses then
> grab food for their mouth in the next instant... I assume NOTHING about
> peoples hygiene these days.


There are some things that just remain in the memory. Years ago at a co-op,
I saw the manager, reach into his butt (covered by thin pants, of course)
and scratch the hell out of an itch which I can only assume by the location
was his .....hole. The other hand was reaching into the milk cooler -- I'm
almost wretching thinking about it. It's one of those things that talking
about it, it doesn't get any better. :-))

Dee Dee

"Dee.Dee" wrote:
>
> "Goomba38" > wrote in message
> . ..
> I see patients scratch their incontinent asses then
> > grab food for their mouth in the next instant... I assume NOTHING about
> > peoples hygiene these days.
>
> There are some things that just remain in the memory. Years ago at a co-op,
> I saw the manager, reach into his butt (covered by thin pants, of course)
> and scratch the hell out of an itch which I can only assume by the location
> was his .....hole. The other hand was reaching into the milk cooler -- I'm
> almost wretching thinking about it. It's one of those things that talking
> about it, it doesn't get any better. :-))


Watch the movie "Mall Rats" and you will appreciate the plot to sicken
people by shaking hands to spread ass smear :-)

"Goomba38" > wrote in message
> Jeesuz.. everyone does in their own kitchen. This was NOT in the home
> kitchen nor done discretely. It was unpleasant looking, grabbing multiple
> handfuls of these large cubes and smashing them together so as to be able
> to move them from storage dish to serving platter.


Yes, I think most of us apply a higher standard for a commercial kitchen, or
at least when we can actually see what is going on. Centuries ago when I was
in school I worked in a grocery store and often sliced luncheon meats. It
was standard practice to just take the slices in our left hand and then
place them on the scale. Not so today.

On Jan 13, 2:31 pm, Nathalie Chiva
> wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 19:22:59 GMT, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 14:09:31 -0500, Goomba38 wrote:
>
> >> With her bare
> >> hands she grabbed huge handfuls of the bread cubes from the replacement
> >> platter and squeezed them into place on the serving platter, smashing as
> >> needed to get them to mound and stay in place. In some cases ignorance
> >> is bliss and even if she had to use her bare hands to maul the large
> >> cubes, I would have preferred it to be out of my sight.
>
> >You'd be luck to never see the inside of a restaurant kitchen, or
> >even watch them assemble your fast food burger - most assebly and
> >much of the cooking is done with bare hands.
>
> And rightly so too - hands are essential in cooking, and I certainly
> use my bare hands quite often while cooking.

Me too. I wash them well beforehand. Sometimes I wash my hands many
times during meal preparation.

> Funny what shocks one. I wouldn't have even noticed the use of bare
> hands in this case - seems so normal to me!

I guess some folks are made uneasy by not really knowing if the person
touching the food is practicing good hand washing or not.
>
> Nathalie in Switzerland

--Bryan

On Jan 13, 2:22*pm, Sqwertz > wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 14:09:31 -0500, Goomba38 wrote:
> > With her bare
> > hands she grabbed huge handfuls of the bread cubes from the replacement
> > platter and squeezed them into place on the serving platter, smashing as
> > needed to get them to mound and stay in place. In some cases ignorance
> > is bliss and even if she had to use her bare hands to maul the large
> > cubes, I would have preferred it to be out of my sight.
>
> You'd be luck to never see the inside of a restaurant kitchen, or
> even watch them assemble your fast food burger - most assebly and
> much of the cooking is done with bare hands.

In the newspaper summary of health department inspections of local
restaurants, I frequently (but perhaps not as frequently as one would
expect) see them get dinged for touching ready-to-eat food with
bare hands. Sushi bars are probably the most frequent offenders.

Cindy Hamilton

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 05:59:39 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Jan 13, 2:22*pm, Sqwertz > wrote:
>> On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 14:09:31 -0500, Goomba38 wrote:
>> > With her bare
>> > hands she grabbed huge handfuls of the bread cubes from the replacement
>> > platter and squeezed them into place on the serving platter, smashing as
>> > needed to get them to mound and stay in place. In some cases ignorance
>> > is bliss and even if she had to use her bare hands to maul the large
>> > cubes, I would have preferred it to be out of my sight.
>>
>> You'd be luck to never see the inside of a restaurant kitchen, or
>> even watch them assemble your fast food burger - most assebly and
>> much of the cooking is done with bare hands.
>
>In the newspaper summary of health department inspections of local
>restaurants, I frequently (but perhaps not as frequently as one would
>expect) see them get dinged for touching ready-to-eat food with
>bare hands. Sushi bars are probably the most frequent offenders.
>
You know how some people are grossed out by seeing naked hands touch
their food? Well, it would gross me out to see a sushi chef use
gloves. That's way too cafeteria style for me.

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<sf> wrote in message ...
> On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 05:59:39 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
>>On Jan 13, 2:22 pm, Sqwertz > wrote:
>>> On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 14:09:31 -0500, Goomba38 wrote:
>>> > With her bare
>>> > hands she grabbed huge handfuls of the bread cubes from the
>>> > replacement
>>> > platter and squeezed them into place on the serving platter, smashing
>>> > as
>>> > needed to get them to mound and stay in place. In some cases ignorance
>>> > is bliss and even if she had to use her bare hands to maul the large
>>> > cubes, I would have preferred it to be out of my sight.
>>>
>>> You'd be luck to never see the inside of a restaurant kitchen, or
>>> even watch them assemble your fast food burger - most assebly and
>>> much of the cooking is done with bare hands.
>>
>>In the newspaper summary of health department inspections of local
>>restaurants, I frequently (but perhaps not as frequently as one would
>>expect) see them get dinged for touching ready-to-eat food with
>>bare hands. Sushi bars are probably the most frequent offenders.
>>
> You know how some people are grossed out by seeing naked hands touch
> their food? Well, it would gross me out to see a sushi chef use
> gloves. That's way too cafeteria style for me.
>

I agree. Clean hands are possible. I mean, look at how many times a day we
trust people to handle our food with clean hands. Every clerk zand butcher
handles our fresh meat, vegetables, beverages, ice, cooks in restaurants,
and then there are healthcare workers themselves, often caught not washing
THEIR hands and spreading disease. (There are many reasons why people die in
the hospital, and not all go back to what they went in for.)

Goomba sounds like the type who should not work in health care.

<sf> wrote in message ...
> On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 05:59:39 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
>>On Jan 13, 2:22 pm, Sqwertz > wrote:
>>> On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 14:09:31 -0500, Goomba38 wrote:
>>> > With her bare
>>> > hands she grabbed huge handfuls of the bread cubes from the
>>> > replacement
>>> > platter and squeezed them into place on the serving platter, smashing
>>> > as
>>> > needed to get them to mound and stay in place. In some cases ignorance
>>> > is bliss and even if she had to use her bare hands to maul the large
>>> > cubes, I would have preferred it to be out of my sight.
>>>
>>> You'd be luck to never see the inside of a restaurant kitchen, or
>>> even watch them assemble your fast food burger - most assebly and
>>> much of the cooking is done with bare hands.
>>
>>In the newspaper summary of health department inspections of local
>>restaurants, I frequently (but perhaps not as frequently as one would
>>expect) see them get dinged for touching ready-to-eat food with
>>bare hands. Sushi bars are probably the most frequent offenders.
>>
> You know how some people are grossed out by seeing naked hands touch
> their food? Well, it would gross me out to see a sushi chef use
> gloves. That's way too cafeteria style for me.
>
> --

I've heard that that is the way the sushi chefs keep their fingernails so
clean - by constantly working the sushi :-))
Dee Dee

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:34:34 -0500, "Dee.Dee" >
wrote:

>
>I've heard that that is the way the sushi chefs keep their fingernails so
>clean - by constantly working the sushi :-))

AFAIC it is cross sushi contamination. Nothing wrong with that.

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"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
...
On Jan 13, 2:22 pm, Sqwertz > wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 14:09:31 -0500, Goomba38 wrote:
> > With her bare
> > hands she grabbed huge handfuls of the bread cubes from the replacement
> > platter and squeezed them into place on the serving platter, smashing as
> > needed to get them to mound and stay in place. In some cases ignorance
> > is bliss and even if she had to use her bare hands to maul the large
> > cubes, I would have preferred it to be out of my sight.
>
> You'd be luck to never see the inside of a restaurant kitchen, or
> even watch them assemble your fast food burger - most assebly and
> much of the cooking is done with bare hands.

In the newspaper summary of health department inspections of local
restaurants, I frequently (but perhaps not as frequently as one would
expect) see them get dinged for touching ready-to-eat food with
bare hands. Sushi bars are probably the most frequent offenders.

Cindy Hamilton


I saw a gal who was at the cash register taking incoming orders and money,
when there were no customers go straight from the register to an unopened
bag of greens, open them, take them out with her hands and put them in the
buffet container.

Things like this just make me wonder about the management.
Dee Dee