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![]() Several days ago, I came into possession of a large, red snapper head. I purchased a whole red snapper at a local Asian market (Hong Kong Supermarket at Bellaire and Boone in Houston). They cleaned and scaled it, but the head was left on. I have seen customers at the fish counter of this market purchasing ONLY the head. These people are clearly affluent and are not looking for cheap eats. I watched the price on the scales and noticed that they are paying as much for the head as they would for the body. I know they have something in mind . . . and . . . having been exposed to some of the stuff they prepare and eat . . . am inclined to think that whatever they are doing with the head must result in something pretty damned good. I would like to get past my own personal cultural hangup and see what I can do with this thing. Anyone on this NG have any personal experience with the extreme front end of a fish? |
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Bubba wrote:
> > Several days ago, I came into possession of a large, red snapper head. I > purchased a whole red snapper at a local Asian market (Hong Kong Supermarket > at Bellaire and Boone in Houston). They cleaned and scaled it, but the head > was left on. I have seen customers at the fish counter of this market > purchasing ONLY the head. These people are clearly affluent and are not > looking for cheap eats. I watched the price on the scales and noticed that > they are paying as much for the head as they would for the body. I know > they have something in mind . . . and . . . having been exposed to some of > the stuff they prepare and eat . . . am inclined to think that whatever they > are doing with the head must result in something pretty damned good. I > would like to get past my own personal cultural hangup and see what I can do > with this thing. Anyone on this NG have any personal experience with the > extreme front end of a fish? Sorry I can't help, but did you ask the folks at the fish counter? Perhaps they have some suggestions that would work? Or maybe ask the customer(s) who bought only the fish-heads and they might share with you what they do? When all else fails, ask here <G>. Sky, who's ducking ![]() P.S. Years ago, I lived close to Bellaire & Hwy 6 (and Fondren too) -- Ultra Ultimate Kitchen Rule - Use the Timer! Ultimate Kitchen Rule -- Cook's Choice |
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"Bubba" > wrote in message
. .. > > > Several days ago, I came into possession of a large, red snapper head. I > purchased a whole red snapper at a local Asian market (Hong Kong > Supermarket at Bellaire and Boone in Houston). They cleaned and scaled > it, but the head was left on. I have seen customers at the fish counter > of this market purchasing ONLY the head. These people are clearly > affluent and are not looking for cheap eats. I watched the price on the > scales and noticed that they are paying as much for the head as they would > for the body. I know they have something in mind . . . and . . . having > been exposed to some of the stuff they prepare and eat . . . am inclined > to think that whatever they are doing with the head must result in > something pretty damned good. I would like to get past my own personal > cultural hangup and see what I can do with this thing. Anyone on this NG > have any personal experience with the extreme front end of a fish? > > Make fish stock, and use it for seafood chowder. Google for methods. |
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On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 16:26:04 -0600, "Bubba" >
wrote: Anyone on this NG have any personal experience with the >extreme front end of a fish? > I know that these are often used to make a fish fumet/stock. And I just read on one of the eGullet food blogs of someone who make a fish soup out of them. I haven't done this myself..but I also know that if I wanted to make a fish stock, I probably would get the fish heads/ends for it. Christine |
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On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 16:26:04 -0600, "Bubba" >
> Anyone on this NG have any personal experience with the > extreme front end of a fish? "It's a-Moray...." S. |
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Bubba > wrote:
> Anyone on this NG have any personal experience with the > extreme front end of a fish? The Vietnamese canh chua dau cá (sour and spicy fish head soup) can be very good. The recipe at <http://www.fodgycakes.com/ilikepie/2006/03/seafood-seven-ways.html> is nice. Victor |
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Bubba wrote:
> Several days ago, I came into possession of a large, red snapper head. I > purchased a whole red snapper at a local Asian market (Hong Kong Supermarket > at Bellaire and Boone in Houston). They cleaned and scaled it, but the head > was left on. I have seen customers at the fish counter of this market > purchasing ONLY the head. These people are clearly affluent and are not > looking for cheap eats. I watched the price on the scales and noticed that > they are paying as much for the head as they would for the body. I know > they have something in mind . . . and . . . having been exposed to some of > the stuff they prepare and eat . . . am inclined to think that whatever they > are doing with the head must result in something pretty damned good. I > would like to get past my own personal cultural hangup and see what I can do > with this thing. Anyone on this NG have any personal experience with the > extreme front end of a fish? > > Seafood stock? gloria p Fish heads, fish heads, rolypoly fish heads. Fish heads, fish heads, eat 'em up, yum! |
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On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 16:26:04 -0600, "Bubba" >
wrote: > > >Several days ago, I came into possession of a large, red snapper head. I >purchased a whole red snapper at a local Asian market (Hong Kong Supermarket >at Bellaire and Boone in Houston). They cleaned and scaled it, but the head >was left on. I have seen customers at the fish counter of this market >purchasing ONLY the head. These people are clearly affluent and are not >looking for cheap eats. I watched the price on the scales and noticed that >they are paying as much for the head as they would for the body. I know >they have something in mind . . . and . . . having been exposed to some of >the stuff they prepare and eat . . . am inclined to think that whatever they >are doing with the head must result in something pretty damned good. I >would like to get past my own personal cultural hangup and see what I can do >with this thing. Anyone on this NG have any personal experience with the >extreme front end of a fish? > Me..Me... I've cooked fish heads. Treat them like you would the rest of the fish. I marinate them (I usually use salmon) in soy sauce with some garlic and ginger and a little olive oil. Any spice you would usually use on the rest of the fish use on the fish head then bake as you would the body. The collar and cheek meat is especially delicious. koko --- http://www.kokoscorner.typepad.com updated 1/13 "There is no love more sincere than the love of food" George Bernard Shaw |
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On Sun 13 Jan 2008 03:26:04p, Bubba told us...
> > > Several days ago, I came into possession of a large, red snapper head. > I purchased a whole red snapper at a local Asian market (Hong Kong > Supermarket at Bellaire and Boone in Houston). They cleaned and scaled > it, but the head was left on. I have seen customers at the fish counter > of this market purchasing ONLY the head. These people are clearly > affluent and are not looking for cheap eats. I watched the price on the > scales and noticed that they are paying as much for the head as they > would for the body. I know they have something in mind . . . and . . . > having been exposed to some of the stuff they prepare and eat . . . am > inclined to think that whatever they are doing with the head must result > in something pretty damned good. I would like to get past my own > personal cultural hangup and see what I can do with this thing. Anyone > on this NG have any personal experience with the extreme front end of a > fish? > > > I've not tried this recipe, but it is an authentic Chinese recipe from a Chinese cookbook written in China and translated... Chinese Recipe : Fish Head, Tofu and Mushrooms 1 big fish head 2 slabs tofu 151g mushrooms 19g vermicelli 151g lean pork Napa cabbage (as desired; approximately 2 cups). Chop big fish head (salmon, tuna, or carp preferred) into 4 to 6 chunks, remove gills. Wash and set aside. Wash lean pork and tofu. Dice or cut into slices. Cut Napa cabbage into shreds. Soak vermicelli till soft. Slit open the sides of mushrooms. Sauté 2 slices of ginger with oil on wok. Put in fish head to fry until slightly browned. Add in appropriate amount of water right away. Boil at high heat for 10 minutes. Add in tofu, mushrooms, vermicelli, lean pork, and Napa cabbage and boil for 10 minutes. Add salt to taste. -- Wayne Boatwright ******************************************* Date: Sunday, 01(I)/13(XIII)/08(MMVIII) ******************************************* Where there's a will, there's an inheritance tax. ******************************************* |
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Bubba wrote:
> Several days ago, I came into possession of a large, red snapper head. I > purchased a whole red snapper at a local Asian market (Hong Kong Supermarket > at Bellaire and Boone in Houston). They cleaned and scaled it, but the head > was left on. I have seen customers at the fish counter of this market > purchasing ONLY the head. These people are clearly affluent and are not > looking for cheap eats. I watched the price on the scales and noticed that > they are paying as much for the head as they would for the body. I know > they have something in mind . . . and . . . having been exposed to some of > the stuff they prepare and eat . . . am inclined to think that whatever they > are doing with the head must result in something pretty damned good. I > would like to get past my own personal cultural hangup and see what I can do > with this thing. Anyone on this NG have any personal experience with the > extreme front end of a fish? Fish heads, fish heads, Roley poley fish heads! Fish heads, fish heads, Eat em' up, Yum! <Sorry, couldn't help myself> The meat from the cheeks is supposed to be really good. |
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On Sun 13 Jan 2008 09:45:38p, Kathleen told us...
> Bubba wrote: > >> Several days ago, I came into possession of a large, red snapper head. >> I purchased a whole red snapper at a local Asian market (Hong Kong >> Supermarket at Bellaire and Boone in Houston). They cleaned and scaled >> it, but the head was left on. I have seen customers at the fish >> counter of this market purchasing ONLY the head. These people are >> clearly affluent and are not looking for cheap eats. I watched the >> price on the scales and noticed that they are paying as much for the >> head as they would for the body. I know they have something in mind . >> . . and . . . having been exposed to some of the stuff they prepare and >> eat . . . am inclined to think that whatever they are doing with the >> head must result in something pretty damned good. I would like to get >> past my own personal cultural hangup and see what I can do with this >> thing. Anyone on this NG have any personal experience with the >> extreme front end of a fish? > > Fish heads, fish heads, > Roley poley fish heads! > Fish heads, fish heads, > Eat em' up, Yum! > > <Sorry, couldn't help myself> > > The meat from the cheeks is supposed to be really good. > > Funny, I nevert thought of fish as having cheeks. :-) -- Wayne Boatwright ******************************************* Date: Sunday, 01(I)/13(XIII)/08(MMVIII) ******************************************* Shell to DOS...come in, DOS...do you read...over? ******************************************* |
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In article > , Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
>On Sun 13 Jan 2008 09:45:38p, Kathleen told us... [snip] >> >> The meat from the cheeks is supposed to be really good. > >Funny, I nevert thought of fish as having cheeks. :-) There was a bloke here in Oz running a fishing show on TV some years ago. I gather his main claim to fame was that he would kiss the bloody fish he caught before letting them go again. But I don't think he just kissed them on the cheek! Cheers, Phred. -- LID |
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![]() Bubba wrote: > > Several days ago, I came into possession of a large, red snapper head. I > purchased a whole red snapper at a local Asian market (Hong Kong Supermarket > at Bellaire and Boone in Houston). They cleaned and scaled it, but the head > was left on. I have seen customers at the fish counter of this market > purchasing ONLY the head. These people are clearly affluent and are not > looking for cheap eats. I watched the price on the scales and noticed that > they are paying as much for the head as they would for the body. I know > they have something in mind . . . and . . . having been exposed to some of > the stuff they prepare and eat . . . am inclined to think that whatever they > are doing with the head must result in something pretty damned good. I > would like to get past my own personal cultural hangup and see what I can do > with this thing. Anyone on this NG have any personal experience with the > extreme front end of a fish? Have bought fish heads before at my local market in London. There are Asian soups to be made from them and Bengali curries. Fish cheeks are often considered the best part of a steamed fish. Of course used to make stocks etc in most cuisines. Plenty of recipes on the Net. Just remember to remove the fish eyes before cooking... |
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Sqwertz > wrote:
>On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 22:18:52 -0700, Arri London wrote: >> Just remember to remove the fish eyes before cooking... >I've never heard this before. Why remove them before cooking? >So you can eat them raw? ;-) I used to use trout heads for hot-and-sour soup stock. Never removed the eyes, just boiled the whole thing. I suppose it even had salivary glands and lymph nodes in it. Steve |
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![]() Sqwertz wrote: > > On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 22:18:52 -0700, Arri London wrote: > > > Just remember to remove the fish eyes before cooking... > > I've never heard this before. Why remove them before cooking? > So you can eat them raw? ;-) > > -sw LOL do you really want your soup/stew/curry looking at you reproachfully as you eat? Once was enough for me :P |
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On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 00:20:40 -0600, Sqwertz >
wrote: >On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:44:47 -0700, Arri London wrote: > >> Sqwertz wrote: >>> >>> On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 22:18:52 -0700, Arri London wrote: >>> >>>> Just remember to remove the fish eyes before cooking... >>> >>> I've never heard this before. Why remove them before cooking? >>> So you can eat them raw? ;-) >> >> LOL do you really want your soup/stew/curry looking at you reproachfully >> as you eat? Once was enough for me :P > >It's kinda a tossup for me: Empty skeletal eye sockets or >cloudy, shriveled eyes. Chinese keep them in there. They're >easier to remove once cooked, anyway ;-) > >-sw i thought the eyes were a delicacy? a morsel saved for the honored guest. maybe not for soup, but a whole, deep-fried (etc.) fish. not to mention a test of your chopsticking skills. your pal, blake |
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![]() blake murphy wrote: > > On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 00:20:40 -0600, Sqwertz > > wrote: > > >On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:44:47 -0700, Arri London wrote: > > > >> Sqwertz wrote: > >>> > >>> On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 22:18:52 -0700, Arri London wrote: > >>> > >>>> Just remember to remove the fish eyes before cooking... > >>> > >>> I've never heard this before. Why remove them before cooking? > >>> So you can eat them raw? ;-) > >> > >> LOL do you really want your soup/stew/curry looking at you reproachfully > >> as you eat? Once was enough for me :P > > > >It's kinda a tossup for me: Empty skeletal eye sockets or > >cloudy, shriveled eyes. Chinese keep them in there. They're > >easier to remove once cooked, anyway ;-) > > > >-sw > > i thought the eyes were a delicacy? a morsel saved for the honored > guest. maybe not for soup, but a whole, deep-fried (etc.) fish. > > not to mention a test of your chopsticking skills. > > your pal, > blake If that's true, then I wasn't an honoured enough guest LOL. Was offered the fish cheeks more than once, but never the eyes. The people I ate with on those occasions knew I would have eaten them if presented with them. Hey I can pick up one grain of rice with chopsticks; fish eyes (piscine or tapiocoid) aren't a problem. |
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![]() Sqwertz wrote: > > On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:44:47 -0700, Arri London wrote: > > > Sqwertz wrote: > >> > >> On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 22:18:52 -0700, Arri London wrote: > >> > >>> Just remember to remove the fish eyes before cooking... > >> > >> I've never heard this before. Why remove them before cooking? > >> So you can eat them raw? ;-) > > > > LOL do you really want your soup/stew/curry looking at you reproachfully > > as you eat? Once was enough for me :P > > It's kinda a tossup for me: Empty skeletal eye sockets or > cloudy, shriveled eyes. Chinese keep them in there. They're > easier to remove once cooked, anyway ;-) > > -sw LOL that's true of course, but they can fall out which is what happened to me. Spooned up some soup and there was an eye in it! Have eaten many a steamed fish in Chinese restaurants that was staring at me. Tasted good anyway. |
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"Bubba" > wrote in message
Anyone on this NG have any personal experience with the > extreme front end of a fish? Yes, they make superb fish soup. |
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On Jan 13, 4:26�pm, "Bubba" > wrote:
> Several days ago, I came into possession of a large, red snapper head. �I > purchased a whole red snapper at a local Asian market (Hong Kong Supermarket > at Bellaire and Boone in Houston). �They cleaned and scaled it, but the head > was left on. �I have seen customers at the fish counter of this market > purchasing ONLY the head. �These people are clearly affluent and are not > looking for cheap eats. �I watched the price on the scales and noticed that > they are paying as much for the head as they would for the body. � I know > they have something in mind . . . and . . . having been exposed to some of > the stuff they prepare and eat . . . am inclined to think that whatever they > are doing with the head must result in something pretty damned good. � I > would like to get past my own personal cultural hangup and see what I can do > with this thing. � Anyone on this NG have any personal experience with the > extreme front end of a fish? This brings back an unpleasant memory. I was taking a class in French Cooking.One of the dishes was a soup... the whole fish heads were put into a food mill, and ground up, eyes etc included. I do not remember the recipe for the soup and truthfully I don't think I even tried it. I can eat almost anything, but the thought of what all was in that soup ruined my appetite. Rosie |
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