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Heya folks,
I am up late at night again, reading food blogs. And I just found this essay... This is an undiscovered til now essay by the late great Edna Lewis...sent to Gourmet Magazine and just published. This really resonates with me, and I post the link here for all you other southerners and would-be southerners... http://www.gourmet.com/magazine/2000...southern_lewis Christine |
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On Mon 21 Jan 2008 02:33:57a, Christine Dabney told us...
> Heya folks, > > I am up late at night again, reading food blogs. And I just found > this essay... > > This is an undiscovered til now essay by the late great Edna > Lewis...sent to Gourmet Magazine and just published. This really > resonates with me, and I post the link here for all you other > southerners and would-be southerners... > > http://www.gourmet.com/magazine/2000...southern_lewis > > Christine > That's wonderful, Christine! -- Wayne Boatwright ******************************************* Date: Monday, 01(I)/21(XXI)/08(MMVIII) Today is: Martin Luther King's Birthday ******************************************* Go not to Usenet for counsel, for it will say both no, and yes, and no, and yes. ******************************************* |
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Wayne Boatwright > wrote: > On Mon 21 Jan 2008 02:33:57a, Christine Dabney told us... > > > Heya folks, > > > > I am up late at night again, reading food blogs. And I just found > > this essay... > > > > This is an undiscovered til now essay by the late great Edna > > Lewis...sent to Gourmet Magazine and just published. This really > > resonates with me, and I post the link here for all you other > > southerners and would-be southerners... > > > > http://www.gourmet.com/magazine/2000...southern_lewis > > > > Christine > > > > That's wonderful, Christine! I read the article. I agree with Wayne. Tomorrow night's dinner is going to be a Southern extravaganza: smoked pork chops with yams and collard greens. It won't quite be the equivalent of Poor Melvin's ham and yams, but as close as this Yankee girl can come. (Poor Melvin's was a Southern/Cajun joint in Irving, TX. It had a wonderful jukebox full of Louis Prima tunes.) Cindy -- C.J. Fuller Delete the obvious to email me |
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>> On Mon 21 Jan 2008 02:33:57a, Christine Dabney told us...
>> >> > Heya folks, >> > >> > I am up late at night again, reading food blogs. And I just found >> > this essay... >> > >> > This is an undiscovered til now essay by the late great Edna >> > Lewis...sent to Gourmet Magazine and just published. This really >> > resonates with me, and I post the link here for all you other >> > southerners and would-be southerners... >> > >> > http://www.gourmet.com/magazine/2000...southern_lewis >> > >> > Christine >> > not exactly on topic, but i would enthusiastically recommend to any student of the south the writings of florence king: <http://www.amazon.com/Confessions-Failed-Southern-Lady-Florence/dp/0312050631/ref=pd_bbs_sr_4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1201120640&sr= 8-4> or for an omnibus, 'the florence king reader': <http://www.amazon.com/Florence-King-Reader/dp/0312143370/ref=pd_bbs_7?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1201120640&sr=8-7> very, very funny lady, though she qualifies as a right-winger. an excellent prose stylist as well. a quote: 'no matter which sex i slept with, i never smoked in the street.' your pal, blake |
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"blake murphy" > wrote in message ... >>> On Mon 21 Jan 2008 02:33:57a, Christine Dabney told us... >>> >>> > Heya folks, >>> > >>> > I am up late at night again, reading food blogs. And I just found >>> > this essay... >>> > >>> > This is an undiscovered til now essay by the late great Edna >>> > Lewis...sent to Gourmet Magazine and just published. This really >>> > resonates with me, and I post the link here for all you other >>> > southerners and would-be southerners... >>> > >>> > http://www.gourmet.com/magazine/2000...southern_lewis >>> > >>> > Christine >>> > > > not exactly on topic, but i would enthusiastically recommend to any > student of the south the writings of florence king: > > <http://www.amazon.com/Confessions-Failed-Southern-Lady-Florence/dp/0312050631/ref=pd_bbs_sr_4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1201120640&sr= 8-4> > > or for an omnibus, 'the florence king reader': > > <http://www.amazon.com/Florence-King-Reader/dp/0312143370/ref=pd_bbs_7?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1201120640&sr=8-7> > > very, very funny lady, though she qualifies as a right-winger. an > excellent prose stylist as well. a quote: 'no matter which sex i > slept with, i never smoked in the street.' > > your pal, > blake I haven't heard anyone mention her name in years. I read her first few books, and I believe she used to have an article at the end of a magazine. I know that I did like her years ago and DH and I had some good laughs out of her writings. I can't remember much about her politics; just mores. Dee Dee |
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On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 17:10:44 -0500, "Dee.Dee" >
wrote: > >"blake murphy" > wrote in message .. . >>>> On Mon 21 Jan 2008 02:33:57a, Christine Dabney told us... >>>> >>>> > Heya folks, >>>> > >>>> > I am up late at night again, reading food blogs. And I just found >>>> > this essay... >>>> > >>>> > This is an undiscovered til now essay by the late great Edna >>>> > Lewis...sent to Gourmet Magazine and just published. This really >>>> > resonates with me, and I post the link here for all you other >>>> > southerners and would-be southerners... >>>> > >>>> > http://www.gourmet.com/magazine/2000...southern_lewis >>>> > >>>> > Christine >>>> > >> >> not exactly on topic, but i would enthusiastically recommend to any >> student of the south the writings of florence king: >> >> <http://www.amazon.com/Confessions-Failed-Southern-Lady-Florence/dp/0312050631/ref=pd_bbs_sr_4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1201120640&sr= 8-4> >> >> or for an omnibus, 'the florence king reader': >> >> <http://www.amazon.com/Florence-King-Reader/dp/0312143370/ref=pd_bbs_7?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1201120640&sr=8-7> >> >> very, very funny lady, though she qualifies as a right-winger. an >> excellent prose stylist as well. a quote: 'no matter which sex i >> slept with, i never smoked in the street.' >> >> your pal, >> blake > > >I haven't heard anyone mention her name in years. I read her first few >books, and I believe she used to have an article at the end of a magazine. >I know that I did like her years ago and DH and I had some good laughs out >of her writings. I can't remember much about her politics; just mores. > >Dee Dee > she wrote the 'misanthrope's corner' column for many years in the *national review*, william f. buckley's magazine. unlike most political polemicists of any stripe, she was pretty funny. your pal, blake |
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On Wed 23 Jan 2008 01:48:19p, blake murphy told us...
>>> On Mon 21 Jan 2008 02:33:57a, Christine Dabney told us... >>> >>> > Heya folks, >>> > >>> > I am up late at night again, reading food blogs. And I just found >>> > this essay... >>> > >>> > This is an undiscovered til now essay by the late great Edna >>> > Lewis...sent to Gourmet Magazine and just published. This really >>> > resonates with me, and I post the link here for all you other >>> > southerners and would-be southerners... >>> > >>> > http://www.gourmet.com/magazine/2000...southern_lewis >>> > >>> > Christine >>> > > > not exactly on topic, but i would enthusiastically recommend to any > student of the south the writings of florence king: > > <http://www.amazon.com/Confessions-Fa...rence/dp/03120 > 50631/ref=pd_bbs_sr_4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1201120640&sr= 8-4> > > or for an omnibus, 'the florence king reader': > > <http://www.amazon.com/Florence-King-...ef=pd_bbs_7?ie > =UTF8&s=books&qid=1201120640&sr=8-7> > > very, very funny lady, though she qualifies as a right-winger. an > excellent prose stylist as well. a quote: 'no matter which sex i > slept with, i never smoked in the street.' > > Thanks, Blake. -- Wayne Boatwright ******************************************* Date: Wednesday, 01(I)/23(XXIII)/08(MMVIII) ******************************************* Oxymoron: Small Crowd. ******************************************* |
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On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 02:33:57 -0700, Christine Dabney
> wrote: >Heya folks, > >I am up late at night again, reading food blogs. And I just found >this essay... > >This is an undiscovered til now essay by the late great Edna >Lewis...sent to Gourmet Magazine and just published. This really >resonates with me, and I post the link here for all you other >southerners and would-be southerners... > >http://www.gourmet.com/magazine/2000...southern_lewis > >Christine I was up late last night blog hopping also. Before I knew it, it was 1:00 a.m. I had to make myself go to bed. koko --- http://www.kokoscorner.typepad.com updated 1/19 "There is no love more sincere than the love of food" George Bernard Shaw |
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"Christine Dabney" > wrote in message ... > Heya folks, > > I am up late at night again, reading food blogs. And I just found > this essay... > > This is an undiscovered til now essay by the late great Edna > Lewis...sent to Gourmet Magazine and just published. This really > resonates with me, and I post the link here for all you other > southerners and would-be southerners... > > http://www.gourmet.com/magazine/2000...southern_lewis > > I enjoyed that. It occurs to me that a lot of what she points out as southern is just like what is northern in the summertime up there, in rural areas. People who live in the really urban northern areas can forget that there are still vast rural areas everywhere. |
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On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 02:33:57 -0700, Christine Dabney
> wrote: >Heya folks, > >I am up late at night again, reading food blogs. And I just found >this essay... > >This is an undiscovered til now essay by the late great Edna >Lewis...sent to Gourmet Magazine and just published. This really >resonates with me, and I post the link here for all you other >southerners and would-be southerners... > >http://www.gourmet.com/magazine/2000...southern_lewis > Oooo! I found a way to use an herb I love, but only knew one way to use. Chervil! Green Peas in Cream Serves 4 to 6 o Active Time: 35 min o Start to Finish: 45 min "Green peas were considered a great delicacy," says Edna Lewis in The Taste of Country Cooking. "If our peas ripened first, they were shared with the neighbors and vice versa." Since garden-fresh peas have become practically impossible to find, we rely on frozen peas for this classic combination. Serve it, as Miss Lewis would, with skillet-cooked chicken and biscuits on an evening in late spring. January 2008 3 cups fresh peas, (shelled from 3 to 6 pounds peas in pods) or thawed frozen peas (1 pound) 2 tablespoons sugar 1/2 cup heavy cream 2 tablespoons unsalted butter 1 tablespoon finely chopped chervil, chives, or mint Bring a large heavy saucepan of salted water (4 teaspoons salt for 2 quarts water) to a rolling boil, and then slowly add peas so water maintains a boil. Stir in sugar and cook peas, uncovered, until tender, 5 to 12 minutes, depending on size of peas. Drain peas in a colander. Boil cream in saucepan until reduced by half, 2 to 3 minutes. Add butter, peas, 1/4 teaspoon pepper, and salt to taste and cook over medium heat, stirring, until butter is melted and peas are warmed through. Stir in chervil. -- See return address to reply by email remove the smiley face first |
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On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 10:28:54 -0800, sf wrote:
>On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 02:33:57 -0700, Christine Dabney > wrote: > >>Heya folks, >> >>I am up late at night again, reading food blogs. And I just found >>this essay... >> >>This is an undiscovered til now essay by the late great Edna >>Lewis...sent to Gourmet Magazine and just published. This really >>resonates with me, and I post the link here for all you other >>southerners and would-be southerners... >> >>http://www.gourmet.com/magazine/2000...southern_lewis >> >Oooo! I found a way to use an herb I love, but only knew one way to >use. Chervil! > >Green Peas in Cream See!!!!!!!!!!! We will get you cooking southern before you know it!!!! Christine, who was just interested in posting this essay about the glory of southern food and hoping that folks would focus on that. |
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On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 11:31:42 -0700, Christine Dabney
> wrote: >Christine, who was just interested in posting this essay about the >glory of southern food and hoping that folks would focus on that. Focus? Whazzat? You should know me better than that by this time. Give me something with lots of interesting (to me) links and I'm off!  -- See return address to reply by email remove the smiley face first |
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On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 11:38:19 -0800, sf wrote:
>On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 11:31:42 -0700, Christine Dabney > wrote: > >>Christine, who was just interested in posting this essay about the >>glory of southern food and hoping that folks would focus on that. > >Focus? Whazzat? You should know me better than that by this time. >Give me something with lots of interesting (to me) links and I'm off! > > Well, at least your's was food related!! You gonna try some southern food now? I will bring my southern cookbooks with me, and indoctrinate you into Southern cuisine, if I get there. Alta Bates is out, but I have just been submitted to O'Connor hospital in San Jose. Ranger says that is close to where he lives..and I have promised to bring him NM green chiles if I get there. Christine |
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On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 12:43:00 -0700, Christine Dabney
> wrote: >You gonna try some southern food now? I will bring my southern >cookbooks with me, and indoctrinate you into Southern cuisine, if I >get there. Have you read any of Ronni Lundy's Southern cookbooks? I think you would enjoy them. Tara |
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On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 12:43:00 -0700, Christine Dabney
> wrote: >You gonna try some southern food now? I don't recall saying I wouldn't. I think all of rfc knows I have tried and loved fried okra (cornmeal coating). -- See return address to reply by email remove the smiley face first |
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On Jan 21, 4:33 am, Christine Dabney > wrote:
> Heya folks, > > I am up late at night again, reading food blogs. And I just found > this essay... > > This is an undiscovered til now essay by the late great Edna > Lewis...sent to Gourmet Magazine and just published. This really > resonates with me, and I post the link here for all you other > southerners and would-be southerners... > > http://www.gourmet.com/magazine/2000...southern_lewis > > Christine Hello - I am a filmmaker in Atlanta. I read your latest blog with the mention of Edna Lewis and her essay in Gourmet Magazine on 'What Is Southern.'. I just wanted to let you know I produced a 21 minute documentary about Miss Edna Lewis and its viewable in its entirety on Internet at a Gourmet Magazine website: http://www.gourmet.com/magazine/video/2008/01/Edna and at a Georgia Public Broadcasting website: http://www.cforty7.com/film/theater?film_test=16 My documentary is called Fried Chicken and Sweet Potato Pie. My website, http://bbarash.com/index.htm has more information about the film and the story of Miss Lewis. Sincerely, Bailey Barash |
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On Jan 22, 2:44 am, Christine Dabney > wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 23:20:29 -0800 (PST), > wrote: > > >Hello - > >I am a filmmaker in Atlanta. I read your latest blog with the mention > >of Edna Lewis and her essay in Gourmet Magazine on 'What Is > >Southern.'. > > I wish I could say it is my blog, but it isn;t. Not by a long shot... > > >I just wanted to let you know I produced a 21 minute documentary about > >Miss Edna Lewis and its viewable in its entirety on Internet at a > >Gourmet Magazine website: > > >http://www.gourmet.com/magazine/video/2008/01/Edna > > Ohmygosh..this is wonderful.. I hope more folks can see this. I just > looked at this..and it is great. It just enraptured me.... > > >My website,http://bbarash.com/index.htm has more information about > >the film and the story of Miss Lewis. > > >Sincerely, > >Bailey Barash > > Blessings on you.. I am so totally in awe at what you have > done....Edna Lewis was a great southern gentlewoman..in every respect. > > Christine Thanks, Christine - I'm just glad it's available where anyone can watch it, and I'm glad you enjoyed it. Bailey |
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Christine Dabney > wrote: >Heya folks, > >I am up late at night again, reading food blogs. And I just found >this essay... > >This is an undiscovered til now essay by the late great Edna >Lewis...sent to Gourmet Magazine and just published. This really >resonates with me, and I post the link here for all you other >southerners and would-be southerners... > >http://www.gourmet.com/magazine/2000...southern_lewis > Miss Christine - Speaking of cooking southern and Miss Edna of blessed memory, have you ever posted that recipe for pimento cheese that you wowed me with at a cook-in at Tammy's? If not, will you post it? I improvised once for a Dead Spread, but it wasn't as good as Miss Edna's as made by you. I figure (based on "Being Dead is No Excuse") that I am in the Savory PC camp. Thanks for the food for thought, Charlotte -- |
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"Christine Dabney" > wrote in message ... > On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 01:46:03 +0000 (UTC), > (Charlotte L. Blackmer) wrote: > > >>Miss Christine - >> >>Speaking of cooking southern and Miss Edna of blessed memory, have you >>ever posted that recipe for pimento cheese that you wowed me with >>at a cook-in at Tammy's? If not, will you post it? I improvised once for >>a Dead Spread, but it wasn't as good as Miss Edna's as made by you. >> >>I figure (based on "Being Dead is No Excuse") that I am in the Savory PC >>camp. >> >>Thanks for the food for thought, >> >>Charlotte > > Okay Miss Charlotte.. > > The recipe I used wasn't Edna Lewis'...but that of James Villas, who > has also authored quite a few good southern cookbooks. It is from the > first volume he did with his momma, My Mother's Southern Kitchen. > > Christine > > * Exported from MasterCook * > > Pimiento Cheese > > Recipe By :James Villas > Serving Size : 10 Preparation Time :0:00 > Categories : > > Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method > -------- ------------ -------------------------------- > 1/2 pound extra sharp cheddar cheese -- grated > 1 4 ounce jar pimientos -- drained and finely chopped > 1/2 cup green olives (optional) -- finely chopped > 1/2 cup mayonnaise -- homemade or Hellmans > 1 tablespoon fresh lemon juice > 1 teaspoon Worcestershire sauce > black pepper to taste > Tabasco sauce to taste > > Add pimentos to grated cheese in mixing bowl, and optional olives. Mix > well. Add the mayonnaise, lemon juice,Worcestershire sauce, pepper > and Tabasco Sauce. Using a fork, stir and mash the mixture til blended > and almost a chunky paste. Scrape the mixture into a crock and serve > with crackers as a canape. Keeps up to a week in the fridge. > > Source: > "My Mother's Southern Kitchen" > A Kansas woman I knew was very secretive with a similar recipe for years. She used this recipe as a welcoming treat, and if you were lucky, she tucked a little in a small bowl for you to take with you. One day I went to the basement as she had been gone for a long time and I was getting ready to go. When she saw me, she jumped sky high. There she was using one of those sausage-type grinders grinding away on the cheddar. Caught in action. I laugh now, but I was embarrassed then, I was so young. Dee Dee |
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On Mon 21 Jan 2008 06:02:27a, Michael "Dog3" told us...
> Christine Dabney > dropped this > : in rec.food.cooking > >> Heya folks, >> >> I am up late at night again, reading food blogs. And I just found >> this essay... >> >> This is an undiscovered til now essay by the late great Edna >> Lewis...sent to Gourmet Magazine and just published. This really >> resonates with me, and I post the link here for all you other >> southerners and would-be southerners... >> >> http://www.gourmet.com/magazine/2000...southern_lewis >> >> Christine > > What a charming essay. I very much enjoyed and thank you for sharing. > It comes at a good time for me, having spent the past week dealing with > "Southerners" from Alabama. I won't go into detail but the 5 or so people > I've had to deal with have left a... hmmm... very sour taste in my mouth > in regards to 'Bammers as being part of the human race. > > My aunt an uncle live in Baton Rouge. Louisiana folks are a whole > different breed than the 'Bammers. I love my stays in Louisiana. > > Michael > > > There are a lot of charming folk in Alabama, Michael. You were just very unlucky to have 5 that weren't! -- Wayne Boatwright ******************************************* Date: Monday, 01(I)/21(XXI)/08(MMVIII) Today is: Martin Luther King's Birthday ******************************************* May the Farce be with you! ******************************************* |
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On Mon 21 Jan 2008 03:24:38p, Michael "Dog3" told us...
> Wayne Boatwright > dropped this > 3.184: in > rec.food.cooking > >> There are a lot of charming folk in Alabama, Michael. You were just >> very unlucky to have 5 that weren't! > > At this point it would take a great deal of convincing me that all > 'Bammers are not inbred illiterates. I'm usually not this judgemental > about anyone but my experience last week nearly did me in. I want > nothing to do with the entire state. > > Michael > > > Your loss, Michael. You're being extreme again. ;-) -- Wayne Boatwright ******************************************* Date: Monday, 01(I)/21(XXI)/08(MMVIII) Today is: Martin Luther King's Birthday ******************************************* All you can eat, shrimp ******************************************* |
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On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 13:02:27 GMT, "Michael \"Dog3\""
> wrote: >What a charming essay. I very much enjoyed and thank you for sharing. >It comes at a good time for me, having spent the past week dealing with >"Southerners" from Alabama. I won't go into detail but the 5 or so people >I've had to deal with have left a... hmmm... very sour taste in my mouth >in regards to 'Bammers as being part of the human race. I have spent just about my whole life in South Carolina(US), and I have finally come to realize it's not where you live that makes you great/ignorant/intelligent/worthless, it's what you make of yourself. I spent a good ten years changing my accent and my ways so people wouldn't automatically assume I was stupid just becuase I live here. It doesn't matter to me anymore, I am great (most of the time) and my friends(northern and not) love me. Don't paint all "'Bammers" with the same stroke. Marie |
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"Marie" > wrote in message ... > On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 13:02:27 GMT, "Michael \"Dog3\"" > > wrote: >>What a charming essay. I very much enjoyed and thank you for sharing. >>It comes at a good time for me, having spent the past week dealing with >>"Southerners" from Alabama. I won't go into detail but the 5 or so people >>I've had to deal with have left a... hmmm... very sour taste in my mouth >>in regards to 'Bammers as being part of the human race. > > I have spent just about my whole life in South Carolina(US), and I > have finally come to realize it's not where you live that makes you > great/ignorant/intelligent/worthless, it's what you make of yourself. > I spent a good ten years changing my accent and my ways so people > wouldn't automatically assume I was stupid just becuase I live here. > It doesn't matter to me anymore, I am great (most of the time) and my > friends(northern and not) love me. Don't paint all "'Bammers" with the > same stroke. > Marie That was well said. I have found southerners to be among the most gracious, entertaining, heartwarming people I have ever known. As with every area, education level and economic status has a lot to do with behavior and attitudes. In any case, there is such a thing as regional manner, and it is the northeastern regional manner that I find repugnant on a regular basis. I grew up in the northeast. |
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cybercat wrote: > In any case, there is such a thing as regional manner, and it is the > northeastern regional manner that I find repugnant on a regular basis. I > grew up in the northeast. Which explains why you generally comport yourself here like a pig's anus. |
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"Sarah Marshall" > wrote in message ... > > cybercat wrote: > >> In any case, there is such a thing as regional manner, and it is the >> northeastern regional manner that I find repugnant on a regular basis. I >> grew up in the northeast. > > > Which explains why you generally comport yourself here like a pig's anus. > Wow. You must have intimate knowledge of some very talented pig assholes. Good for you! |
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> > As with every area, > education level and economic status has a lot to do with behavior and > attitudes. Absolutely, but PC or not, there are areas that are predominantly in the south, but not exclusively, where there is effectively a regressive sub species of human developing due to the lack of branches in the family trees. This is biological fact, not any sort of prejudice. |
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"Pete C." > wrote in message ... > cybercat wrote: >> >> As with every area, >> education level and economic status has a lot to do with behavior and >> attitudes. > > Absolutely, but PC or not, there are areas that are predominantly in the > south, but not exclusively, where there is effectively a regressive sub > species of human developing due to the lack of branches in the family > trees. This is biological fact, not any sort of prejudice. Pete, there are royal families like that. Inbreeding is not so much a product of ignorance or immorality as a product of geography and economics. It has been found among the very rich and the very poor, throughout history. Anyone with knowledge of mountain communities, south and north, understands the geographical element. |
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cybercat wrote:
> > "Pete C." > wrote in message > ... > > cybercat wrote: > >> > >> As with every area, > >> education level and economic status has a lot to do with behavior and > >> attitudes. > > > > Absolutely, but PC or not, there are areas that are predominantly in the > > south, but not exclusively, where there is effectively a regressive sub > > species of human developing due to the lack of branches in the family > > trees. This is biological fact, not any sort of prejudice. > > Pete, there are royal families like that. I didn't say it was exclusive to the US, just that it does indeed exist in the US. > Inbreeding is not so much a > product of ignorance or immorality as a product of geography and > economics. I didn't claim that either, I only pointed out the results, regardless of the initiator. Once initiated for a generation or two, it's also self sustaining due to it's effects. > It has been found among the very rich and the very poor, > throughout history. I didn't claim otherwise, I only pointed out it's existence in the US. > > Anyone with knowledge of mountain communities, south and north, > understands the geographical element. The geographical element is really a myth since even small communities are quite capable of having branching family trees. |
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Pete C. wrote:
> cybercat wrote: > > > As with every area, > > education level and economic status has a lot to do with behavior and > > attitudes. > > Absolutely, but PC or not, there are areas that are predominantly in the > south, but not exclusively, where there is effectively a regressive sub > species of human developing due to the lack of branches in the family > trees. This is biological fact, not any sort of prejudice. It's not the South, it's poorer US rural areas in general, from Maine to California, from Washington state to Florida. I grew up in west central Illannoy, when I read the area noozepapers online I see the very same family names committing the same trashy stuff they were doing 40 years ago. LOTS of meth busts, whole extended families making meth in fact. On the state sex offender registry site I see their mugs and go, "Ah, I went to school with that guy's parents, they were pervs too...". Loads of DUI's, domestic abuse, etc... But socio - politically speaking, there do seem to be some "backwaters", e.g. parts of Kansas, Missouri, etc. At least Illannoy is a blue state (Chicago helps), we've got stuff like protection for gays, etc. An anecdote: A good friend recently moved from DC to Denver, he drove through Kansas and had to call me several times as he traversed the state, excitedly telling me about all the stuff that was "Christian - themed" and redneck - ish. He'd say, "God, there are even Christian - themed MOTELS in this place...!!! There are bible verses on the truck stop menus...!!! A waitress asked me what CHURCH I went to...!!! There are anti - abortion messages on the SUGAR PACKETS...!!!". I said, "Hey, settle down, you're just passing through, lol...". He is an East Coast urban guy, *** and Jewish and very well - travelled/ educated. But he'd never seen anything like Kansas - and he'd lived in both St. Louis and Virginia (Alexandria, suburban DC) for periods of years. Maybe what got him was that the conservative fundamentalist culture that he encountered was *all* that was there in Kansas... As for myself, the only time I really felt scared in my life was off the interstate in rural Georgia to fill up my car whilst passing through. They did NOT like Yankee hippies (I had long hair) in 1974... "YMMV", as the auld saying goes... -- Best Greg |
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Gregory Morrow wrote:
> > Pete C. wrote: > > > cybercat wrote: > > > > > As with every area, > > > education level and economic status has a lot to do with behavior and > > > attitudes. > > > > Absolutely, but PC or not, there are areas that are predominantly in the > > south, but not exclusively, where there is effectively a regressive sub > > species of human developing due to the lack of branches in the family > > trees. This is biological fact, not any sort of prejudice. > > It's not the South, it's poorer US rural areas in general, from Maine > to California, from Washington state to Florida. > > I grew up in west central Illannoy, when I read the area noozepapers > online I see the very same family names committing the same trashy > stuff they were doing 40 years ago. LOTS of meth busts, whole > extended families making meth in fact. On the state sex offender > registry site I see their mugs and go, "Ah, I went to school with that > guy's parents, they were pervs too...". Loads of DUI's, domestic > abuse, etc... That is a function of the education and economic status for the most part. Bad behaving parents produce bad behaving children who produce more bad behaving children. I was addressing the human sub species issue, not all bad behavior and ignorance. > > But socio - politically speaking, there do seem to be some > "backwaters", e.g. parts of Kansas, Missouri, etc. At least Illannoy > is a blue state (Chicago helps), we've got stuff like protection for > gays, etc. > > An anecdote: A good friend recently moved from DC to Denver, he drove > through Kansas and had to call me several times as he traversed the > state, excitedly telling me about all the stuff that was "Christian - > themed" and redneck - ish. He'd say, "God, there are even Christian - > themed MOTELS in this place...!!! There are bible verses on the truck > stop menus...!!! A waitress asked me what CHURCH I went to...!!! > There are anti - abortion messages on the SUGAR PACKETS...!!!". I > said, "Hey, settle down, you're just passing through, lol...". He is > an East Coast urban guy, *** and Jewish and very well - travelled/ > educated. But he'd never seen anything like Kansas - and he'd lived > in both St. Louis and Virginia (Alexandria, suburban DC) for periods > of years. Maybe what got him was that the conservative fundamentalist > culture that he encountered was *all* that was there in Kansas... Well, when the tornados and dustbowl wipe everything out, it naturally drives the intelligent, educated population to relocate to better areas, leaving a concentration of the ignorant and superstitious. > > As for myself, the only time I really felt scared in my life was off > the interstate in rural Georgia to fill up my car whilst passing > through. They did NOT like Yankee hippies (I had long hair) in > 1974... On one cross country trip, I specifically planed my fuel fill ups and routes to eliminate any stops on my way through Alabama. I went through at 4am, never leaving the major highways, and this was in 2004, I don't have long hair and I drive a crew cab dually pickup too. |
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"Pete C." > wrote in message ... > cybercat wrote: >> >> As with every area, >> education level and economic status has a lot to do with behavior and >> attitudes. > > Absolutely, but PC or not, there are areas that are predominantly in the > south, but not exclusively, where there is effectively a regressive sub > species of human developing due to the lack of branches in the family > trees. This is biological fact, not any sort of prejudice. |
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"Dee.Dee" wrote:
> > "Pete C." > wrote in message > ... > > cybercat wrote: > >> > >> As with every area, > >> education level and economic status has a lot to do with behavior and > >> attitudes. > > > > Absolutely, but PC or not, there are areas that are predominantly in the > > south, but not exclusively, where there is effectively a regressive sub > > species of human developing due to the lack of branches in the family > > trees. This is biological fact, not any sort of prejudice. Um, did you have a comment? |
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On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:22:48 GMT, "Pete C." >
wrote: >cybercat wrote: >> >> As with every area, >> education level and economic status has a lot to do with behavior and >> attitudes. > >Absolutely, but PC or not, there are areas that are predominantly in the >south, but not exclusively, where there is effectively a regressive sub >species of human developing due to the lack of branches in the family >trees. This is biological fact, not any sort of prejudice. i'm sure your father ranged pretty far in his search for your mother. i'm thinking mail order. your pal, blake |
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blake murphy wrote:
> > On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:22:48 GMT, "Pete C." > > wrote: > > >cybercat wrote: > >> > >> As with every area, > >> education level and economic status has a lot to do with behavior and > >> attitudes. > > > >Absolutely, but PC or not, there are areas that are predominantly in the > >south, but not exclusively, where there is effectively a regressive sub > >species of human developing due to the lack of branches in the family > >trees. This is biological fact, not any sort of prejudice. > > i'm sure your father ranged pretty far in his search for your mother. > i'm thinking mail order. I see you can't handle non PC facts. Rather typical head in sand lefty reaction. |
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On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 13:02:27 GMT, "Michael \"Dog3\""
> wrote: >What a charming essay. I very much enjoyed and thank you for sharing. >It comes at a good time for me, having spent the past week dealing with >"Southerners" from Alabama. Michael, I'm from Alabama and I'm sad that you met with some unpleasant people. I'm so proud of my home state and I want everyone to feel welcomed by Alabama and her people. Edna Lewis' essay was very moving. I grew up in a very rural environment in Appalachian Alabama. This part of the essay was lovely: "Living in a rural setting is inspiring: Birds, the quiet, flowers, trees, gardens, fields, music, love, sunshine, rain, and the smells of the earth all play a part in the world of creativity." Southern food and cooking has so much to do with family, history, sharing, and connections to the land. Tara |
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"Michael "Dog3"" > wrote in message 6.121... > Tara > dropped this > : in rec.food.cooking > >> >> Michael, I'm from Alabama and I'm sad that you met with some >> unpleasant people. I'm so proud of my home state and I want everyone >> to feel welcomed by Alabama and her people. >> >> Edna Lewis' essay was very moving. I grew up in a very rural >> environment in Appalachian Alabama. This part of the essay was >> lovely: >> >> "Living in a rural setting is inspiring: Birds, the quiet, flowers, >> trees, gardens, fields, music, love, sunshine, rain, and the smells of >> the earth all play a part in the world of creativity." >> >> Southern food and cooking has so much to do with family, history, >> sharing, and connections to the land. >> >> Tara > > Tara, I do not mean to offend anyone. It just takes me awhile to get > over something like I just dealt with. I'll calm down but will forever > be suspicious of people from Alabama, although not as judgemental ;( > > Michael > > > > -- > "You are not drunk if you can lie on the floor without holding on." > > ~unknown author > > To email - michael at lonergan dot us dot com May I ask what happened Michael? If you don't want to discuss it or if I've missed it, I'm sorry. helen |
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Michael \"Dog3\" wrote:
> > "chefhelen" > dropped this > : in rec.food.cooking > > > > > May I ask what happened Michael? If you don't want to discuss it or > > if I've missed it, I'm sorry. > > > > helen > > Feel free to email me (see sig) and I'll tell you what happened. It's too > long a story and waaaayyyy off topic for this forum. Is it possible for anything to be too off topic for a news group? |
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Pete C. wrote:
> Michael \"Dog3\" wrote: >> "chefhelen" > dropped this >> : in rec.food.cooking >> >>> May I ask what happened Michael? If you don't want to discuss it or >>> if I've missed it, I'm sorry. >>> >>> helen >> Feel free to email me (see sig) and I'll tell you what happened. It's too >> long a story and waaaayyyy off topic for this forum. > > Is it possible for anything to be too off topic for a news group? YES! In fact, most of the OT crap posted here would be better served just emailed to the interested parties or not posted at all. But the posters all imagine what they're sharing is particularly valuable, novel, more humorous and hasn't already been seen 203 times via other friends who did think to email it. |
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